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Abolition and Immigration with Sophia Gurulé
Episode 53rd August 2021 • Folk Phenomenology • Sam Rocha
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FOLK PHENOMENOLOGY is a podcast by Sam Rocha. This episode features an interview with Sophia Elena Gurulé, an immigration attorney and abolitionist, on abolition and immigration. The interview begins in medias res, in the middle of things, in a personal discussion about Mexican-American heritage and Chicanidad. This episode includes strong language and deep friendship and even kinship.

FOLK PHENOMENOLOGY: SEASON ONE will air every Tuesday from July 6 to November 16, 2021. Please follow the show on your favorite app or platform and share it on social media; here is the universal link.

The Juan Diego Network is this episode's featured sponsor. Be sure to check out their podcast South to North for a powerful portrait of immigration from the viewpoint of immigrants.


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June 1 | TRAILER

June 29 | Episode 0 | Folk Phenomenology with guest host Sofia Rocha

July 6 | Episode 1 | The Interview 

July 13 | Episode 2 | The Tragicomic with Jeannie Gaffigan

July 20 | Episode 3 | Writing and Composition with Kaya Oakes 

July 27 | Episode 4 | Philosophy and Math with Sarah Hogarth Rossiter 

August 3 | Episode 5 | Abolition and Immigration with Sophia Gurule 

August 10 | Episode 6 | Liberation Theology with Vanesa Zuleta Goldman 

August 17 | Episode 7 | Translation with Catherine Addington 

August 24 | Episode 8 | El Ser y la Persona con Rodrigo Guerra

August 31 | Episode 9 | Powerlifting with Ogechi Akalegebere 

September 7 | Episode 10 | Black Lives with Rebecca Christian 

September 14 | Episode 11 | The Evil of Racism and Black Joy with Gloria Purvis

September 21 | Episode 12 | Debate 

September 28 | Episode 13 | Debating Critical Race Theory with David Gray 

October 5 | Episode 14 | Critical Race Theory and Catholic Social Teaching

October 12 | Episode 15 | Augustine and Historical Fiction with Suzanne Wolfe 

October 19 | Episode 16 | Black Catholics and Story with Alessandra Harris

October 26 | Episode 17 | Debating Communism with Dean Dettloff

November 2 | Episode 18 | Debating Capitalism with Trent Horn 

November 9 | Episode 19 | Music with Jaya Lakshminarayanan

November 16 | Episode 20 | Miles and Trane


Musical intro and outro tracks are "Gabe's Up Late (Intro)" and "Sleeping Tomas" from the abandoned draft Upi Dupi La La project by Sam Rocha. Voiceovers feature Angela Davis, James Balwin, Paulo Freire, Toni Morrison, Nina Simone, and Stevie Wonder. Mastered with LANDR using Kamasi Washington's "Clair de Lune" from The Epic as a reference track.

All audio and visual content for FOLK PHENOMENOLOGY is created by Sam Rocha.

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