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Conversation Skills Training: How to Connect with Anyone
15th November 2024 • Voice over Work - An Audiobook Sampler • Russell Newton
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Lecturer,

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consultant,

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author,

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and coach Dr. Karl Albrecht explained in Psychology Today that every

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conversation is made up of three key elements - .

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1. Declaratives.

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2. Questions .

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3. Qualifiers.

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Declaratives are simply statements of fact—for example,

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“The sky is light blue."

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12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:28,920 However,

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to make things more complicated,

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they aren’t always exactly facts,

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but opinions that are presented as though they are facts - “Light blue is too

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weak a color to wear to that job interview."

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Questions are self-explanatory (although this doesn’t include rhetorical

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questions that take the grammatical form of a question but are not literally

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asking the other person to respond—for example,

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“What is it with this weather today?”).

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What’s your favorite color?

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What should I wear to the interview?

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Finally,

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qualifiers are something we’ve encountered already and include any words or

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phrases intended to soften or moderate what is being said.

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For example - “In my opinion ...” “I’m wondering if ...” “I could

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be wrong,

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but as far as I know ...” “I’m not speaking for everyone here,

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but ...” Qualifiers are also great at helping you express uncertainty or make

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a claim—but not too strongly.

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So instead of saying that light blue is a weak color,

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you could say it might be a slightly weak color.

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Instead of saying,

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“Freud was a pervert,” you say,

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“In my opinion,

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it may be the case that Freud in fact had a distorted sexuality."

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38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Now,

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Albrecht suggested what he calls the “rule of three."

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Simply,

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in a conversation,

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make sure that you are never making three declarative statements in a row.

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Instead,

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include plenty of questions or qualifiers (i.e.,

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softer and more moderate declaratives)

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to give your speech a little more flexibility.

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Crucially,

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doing so will make sure that the conversation doesn’t become bogged down in

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ego and narcissism.

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51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,480 A question is a way to bat the conversational ball over the net and to the

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other person,

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who is then invited to say what they want to before batting the ball back again.

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A modifier is halfway between a question and a declarative statement—you say

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what you want to say,

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but you leave a little room in there for someone else to add what they want to.

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There is nothing wrong with a declarative per se—but it is the sort of thing

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that closes off any avenues for connection (beyond bland agreement or outright

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disagreement,

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that is—both of which do not actually further the conversation).

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62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,400 Try it,

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and you may be surprised at just how much more your conversations flow—and

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you’ll come across as more likeable,

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too.

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Understanding the rule of three means you won’t soon run out of things to say

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in any conversation.

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You can basically never go wrong if you a)

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ask a question or b)

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say whatever declarative statement you were just about to say but soften it a

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qualifier.

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73 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Consider the following conversation - Person A - I’ve got this really bad

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shoulder pain ...the physiotherapist says it’s bursitis!

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Person B - Wow,

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bursitis?

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My grandmother had that last year.

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It’s more common than you think,

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you know.

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81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Person A - Yeah,

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well,

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it’s the first I’ve heard of it.

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Apparently,

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it was most likely caused by the Covid vaccine.

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Person B - Well,

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you have to consider all the possible causes—there are lots of things that

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could be to blame.

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It’s actually repetitive strain that causes most cases of bursitis.

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Person A - Sure,

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yeah.

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Anyway,

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my physiotherapist said it’s an injury that can happen when the needle is

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placed just slightly in the wrong place ... Person B - A lot of those people

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giving vaccines didn’t get the right training.

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Person A - Well,

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let me tell you,

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it hurts like hell!

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Person B - I’m sure.

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The best thing would be to have plenty of rest,

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I guess.

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Now take a look at the above conversation and ask yourself how much you like

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Person B. They are not being a conversational narcissist in the sense that

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it’s all me,

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me,

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me ...but somehow,

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their ego seems to loom large in the above exchange.

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Why?

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You’ll notice that everything that Person B says is a declarative statement.

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It gives the conversation a flat,

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dead feeling.

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After a declarative,

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there’s not much to do except agree,

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disagree,

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or stop talking.

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In the extreme,

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too many declaratives like this can actually make the person seem as though

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they are lecturing,

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preaching,

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or explaining ...i.e.,

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it can feel very dull and even condescending!

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Let’s look at a different conversation - Person A - I’ve got this really

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bad shoulder pain ...the physiotherapist says it’s bursitis!

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Person C - Wow,

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bursitis?

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My grandmother had that last year.

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It’s more common than you think,

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you know.

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130 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,480 Person A - Yeah,

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well,

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it’s the first I’ve heard of it.

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Apparently,

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it was most likely caused by the Covid vaccine.

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Person C - Really?

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That’s interesting.

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Do you mean you had a bad reaction to something that was in the vaccine?

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Person A - Actually,

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no.

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My physiotherapist said it’s an injury that can happen when the needle is

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placed just slightly in the wrong place.

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Person C - Ouch!

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Well,

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I may be wrong about this,

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but I seem to remember reading an article last year about how many volunteers

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had emergency training to learn to give the vaccine.

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Maybe the person who jabbed you just wasn’t all that experienced?

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149 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Person A - Yeah,

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exactly,

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that’s what I think too.

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It’s annoying because it really hurts!

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Person C - I can imagine.

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What do you think you’ll do now?

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Have you got something relaxing planned for the weekend?

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157 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,080 First,

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just ask yourself which person—Person B or Person C—you feel is more

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likable.

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The two conversations are very,

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very similar.

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Both are perfectly acceptable,

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and there is no offense caused or any major rupture in social etiquette in

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either one.

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And yet,

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even in this short interaction,

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you can probably see the big difference the rule of three makes and how a

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person using declaratives one hundred percent comes across so differently from

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someone using a mix of all three conversational types.

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Person B likely doesn’t believe themselves to be bad at conversation,

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but they nevertheless will be perceived as less friendly,

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less likeable,

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and somehow less enjoyable to speak to.

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The effect of such interactions gradually and imperceptibly adds up.

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Others may not be able to put their finger on why,

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but they may feel that Person B is a bit boring,

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stuck-up,

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rude,

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or a know-it-all.

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181 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,280 Crucially,

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it’s not about the content of what you say.

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It’s about the emotional implications and the energy in how you say it.

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185 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Questions convey a sense of openness,

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possibility,

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humility,

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and receptivity.

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They can be playful and respectful and can demonstrate empathy and compassion,

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as well as the covert message,

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“I like you.

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I’m interested.

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Tell me more."

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Qualified statements send a similar message.

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They say something,

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but it’s a soft something.

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They signal to the other person that you are amenable,

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flexible,

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and ready to discuss and move with the flow.

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Declaratives,

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however,

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are a little like dead-ends.

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They are pronouncements made that usually signal the end of conversation rather

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than its beginning.

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They position you as a speaker with authority,

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and the other person as someone who is there primarily to hear this authority.

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Though there is absolutely a time and place for this energy (giving speeches,

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setting boundaries,

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or literally teaching someone)

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too much of it means you are talking AT rather than talking WITH. In other

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words,

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questions and qualifiers open up a little room that invites the other person

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into the conversation.

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Declaratives tend to focus only on you and your message,

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while closing out the other person.

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217 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,640 “Light blue is such a weak color."

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Is it?

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Says who?

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Literally imagine someone said this to you—can you feel how difficult it is

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to say anything in response?

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223 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,760 “Maybe it’s an unpopular opinion,

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but I’ve never really liked light blue!"

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Can you see how it’s possible to have a strong opinion but nevertheless frame

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it as exactly that—an opinion—and leave plenty of space for someone to

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respond and keep the conversation going?

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“What’s your favorite color?"

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A question immediately opens up the conversation and signals that you are

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willing and able to share airtime,

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to listen,

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and to connect.

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It’s a signal that you are putting your ego aside and making space for

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connection,

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and even though it’s subtle,

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it conveys feelings of appreciation and generosity that are worth their weight

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in gold.

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239 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,360 By the way,

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it’s worth noting that you don’t have to become passive and unopinionated

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to be more likable.

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In fact,

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occasionally saying something obviously outrageous is a great way to inject a

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little playfulness into a conversation and get things flowing.

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But note that these declaratives are in a way acting like questions or

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qualifiers,

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since they can’t help but draw the other person in.

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“Oh,

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I simply cannot wear light blue.

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It makes my eyeballs itchy just looking at it."

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“Man,

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I hate light blue.

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They should make convicts wear it in prison as punishment."

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If the rule of three feels tricky to implement at first,

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don’t worry—it can take time to break bad habits!

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One easy trick is to literally say whatever you were going to,

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but add “don’t you think?” to the end of it.

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“Light blue is such a weak color,

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don’t you think?"

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It immediately changes the entire energy and flow of the conversation and takes

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little-to-no effort on your part.

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Another trick to try is to simply convert any statement into a slightly

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softened question.

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Instead of saying “The blue looks weird,” say “Do you think the blue

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looks a little off?"

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267 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,880 If you’re the kind of person who likes to get on a soapbox and bombard people

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with your strongly held opinions,

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try to ask yourself why.

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Being dogmatic and lecturing people and forcefully pushing your opinions on

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them is not communication,

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but a roadblock to communication.

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People can veer toward declarative statements that are opinions dressed up as

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facts for a few reasons -

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276 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,840 •We unconsciously think that the purpose of a conversation is to have our

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needs met and to be heard and seen by someone else .

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279 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:28,800

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•We may hold a core belief that we have to broadcast,

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defend,

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or force our perspectives and opinions,

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usually because they have not been appreciated or respected in the past.

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285 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:38,000

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•We are anxious and trying to win validation or appear smart and interesting .

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The irony is that using the rule of three is something you do for other

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people—but it’s ultimately something that benefits you.

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Conversations that are more balanced just flow better and lead to more comfort,

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trust,

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enjoyment,

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and attraction than ones where one or both parties are talking forcefully at

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the other,

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who is simply trying to endure it—or waiting for their own turn on the

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soapbox!

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297 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:58,600 You’ll notice as well that this trick works seamlessly with all the other

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advice we’ve covered so far.

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The rule of three helps you build rapport,

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removes barriers to connection,

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and helps you maintain a communication style that is relaxed and appealing.

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