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99. How to Let Go of Control, Reclaim Your Creativity, and Trust the Process with Cameron Cohen
Episode 993rd July 2026 • Becoming Obsessed® | Personal Growth Podcast for Ambitious Women • Teresa Stastny
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In this episode: we’re getting into the very real experience of letting go of control. And even though it’s hard, what comes with letting go is actually the best thing we can do for ourselves; it leaves the door open for our creativity and gives the permission slip to go after the life we want to live.

Cameron Cohen is a Los Angeles-based artist who specializes in creating artwork that helps people manifest the life they want to live. Through a guided visualization process, (which you’ll get a sneak peek of in this episode) she maps out goals, intentions, and then translates it into a painting that is not just decorative, but holds the frequency of their intentions as a daily reminder of the life they are manifesting.

We cover the importance of allowing yourself to make mistakes in your creativity and in life, the science behind manifestation, and how taking the time to recognize your growth is the most important thing you can do on your journey to building a life you love.

If you’ve ever felt like you were cut off from your creativity or weren’t “good enough”, this episode is your reminder to trust the process, and that everything will work out.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • We're all born creators. Kids raise their hands when asked "who's an artist?" — but by adulthood, most people have talked themselves out of that identity. Reclaiming it starts with permission, not talent.
  • Confidence comes from repetition, not certainty. Cameron painted every day for five months during COVID and that consistency, not innate talent, is what built her voice and confidence as an artist.
  • Discomfort is a signal, not a stop sign. Whether starting a new painting or learning a new skill, the fear right before you begin usually means you're on the edge of growth.
  • Talent alone doesn't sustain a career — the "business of art" is a separate skill. Art school teaches technique, not how to sell. Cameron emphasizes finding a mentor or taking a course to learn the business side.
  • You can't manifest for someone else. Manifestation is a personal, active practice rooted in "knowing" rather than just "believing." Belief is external; knowing comes from within.
  • Letting go of control is part of the creative process. Cameron intentionally removes her own ego from her manifestation paintings, allowing the paint (and her clients' energy) to guide the outcome rather than forcing a result.
  • Bad art is part of making good art. Mistakes and "waste" in the creative process aren't failures, they're necessary steps toward growth and mastery.
  • Play and rest fuel creativity. Simple joys - bouncing on a rebounder, beach walks, time in nature act as state-changers that keep Cameron grounded and creatively open.
  • The stories we tell ourselves shape our reality. Cameron's lifelong belief that "everything works out for me" became a self-fulfilling narrative - a reminder that our internal dialogue has real power.
  • Love is foundational. Cameron's latest project, The Love Mural, reflects her belief that raising the "love frequency," for yourself and others, is the base layer everything else is built on.

We have to make bad art to make good art, and you have to not be afraid to make bad art 'cause you never know what's gonna happen. - Cameron Cohen

CONNECT WITH CAMERON:

Website: https://cameroncohenart.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncohenart

Free call: https://calendly.com/cameroncohenart/let-s-talk-art

Connect with Teresa

Topics: art career, creative mindset, manifesting art, confidence in creativity, overcoming fear as an artist, business of art, women's empowerment in art, reclaiming creativity, finding your artistic voice, building a creative business, emotional expression through art, art and self-discovery, challenges of being an artist, self-acceptance in creativity, personal growth through art, living a creative life, connecting with your inner artist, building a life you love

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Speaker A:

When I changed my major from a biology major to an art major, my father asked me, can you eat your art at 19?

Speaker A:

I didn't understand what he meant.

Speaker A:

And really what he got to was, how are you going to make a living?

Speaker A:

How are you going to support yourself?

Speaker A:

How are you not going to be on my payroll forever?

Speaker A:

And that's the mentality that squashes that creativity.

Speaker A:

We're the only ones that keep ourselves from not having what we want.

Speaker A:

The only thing keeping from it is us, because we can have it.

Speaker A:

You just have to not even believe it.

Speaker A:

Know it.

Speaker A:

Belief is putting something outside yourself.

Speaker A:

Knowing comes from within.

Speaker B:

Welcome to becoming obsessed.

Speaker B:

Where curiosity leads you to a life you love.

Speaker B:

I'm Teresa Stasny, and after over a decade of traveling the world, working with small business owners and creating a couple businesses of my own, I know a thing or two about playing by your own rules.

Speaker B:

It's not always easy and it's often messy.

Speaker B:

It can be hard, especially, especially if you're doing it alone.

Speaker B:

I've seen way too many incredible women shoot for the stars only to burn out along the way.

Speaker B:

Or worse, live on default and never chase their dreams.

Speaker B:

We're done with all of that.

Speaker B:

Together we're gonna challenge what keeps us stuck and figure out what it takes to live a life we truly love.

Speaker B:

When I was in college, I read a book that really opened my eyes.

Speaker B:

And no, it wasn't a textbook.

Speaker B:

It was probably about maybe a hundred pages long, not even a full size page.

Speaker B:

And it talked about how this artist would go into schools and when he was in the kindergarten classroom, he would say, who's an artist?

Speaker B:

Raise your hand and every kid in that room would shoot their hand up.

Speaker B:

And then first grade and second grade and third grade, you'd see a few less hands.

Speaker B:

And by the time you reached eighth grade, almost no one was raising their hand saying, I'm an artist.

Speaker B:

What happened?

Speaker B:

That is so sad to me.

Speaker B:

And so today we are going to talk about becoming obsessed with reclaiming that title of being an artist, being a creative, even if you don't think you are.

Speaker B:

And I have the perfect guest to help us get there.

Speaker B:

Let me introduce you to Cameron Cohen.

Speaker B:

She is a Los Angeles based artist who has created the concept that of manifestation paintings.

Speaker B:

She creates artwork that helps people manifest what they want in their life.

Speaker B:

She brings people through a guided visualization process that maps out their goals and intentions and then translates them into a painting that is not just decorative, not just beautiful, but also holds the frequency of their intentions.

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As a Daily reminder of the life that they are manifesting.

Speaker B:

You can find [email protected].

Speaker B:

We will put that in the show notes.

Speaker B:

Cameron, welcome to Becoming Obsessed.

Speaker A:

Thank you for having me.

Speaker A:

I'm excited to be here.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And I have to say a quick thank you to Alessandra Polina from Quotable Media Co and the Quotable Podcast.

Speaker B:

She connected us and she has an incredible podcast for female entrepreneurs.

Speaker B:

So shout out.

Speaker B:

We love lifting up women's voices.

Speaker B:

But, Cameron, I want to start almost back a little bit and just take me through your journey of claiming the title of being an artist and now making your living having a full business that is all about being an artist.

Speaker B:

Because I know that identity feels so scary for a lot of us.

Speaker B:

And so I'd love to hear more about how you came into being a not a starting artist.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

That's a very old paradigm.

Speaker A:

Let's just start with that.

Speaker A:

And I think that's why a lot of people feel like they can't claim it, because they fear for that outcome.

Speaker A:

And that outcome, sure, it exists, but it doesn't have to.

Speaker A:

And I love the story that you started with because I believe we're all creators.

Speaker A:

We all create life.

Speaker A:

That's the first thing.

Speaker A:

If you can create life, you can create anything.

Speaker A:

It's just giving yourself permission and going with what you're obsessed with what you love.

Speaker A:

So I was always an artist from a baby.

Speaker A:

I have a mom who's an interior designer and an artist, so I was encouraged, which definitely helps.

Speaker A:

She gave me my box of crayons too early because I drew all over the walls.

Speaker A:

It was like anything I could use my hands to make or create.

Speaker A:

I was off in a very early start and I always took art classes.

Speaker A:

I even studied art in college.

Speaker A:

However, when I changed my major from a biology major to an art major, my father asked me, can you eat your art at 19?

Speaker A:

I didn't understand what he meant.

Speaker A:

I said, yeah, I mean, I guess if you make it out of something edible, sure you can eat it.

Speaker A:

And really what he got to was, how are you going to make a living?

Speaker A:

How are you going to support yourself?

Speaker A:

How are you not going to be on my payroll forever?

Speaker A:

That kind of thing.

Speaker A:

And that's the mentality that squashes that creativity.

Speaker A:

And luckily I said, well, I'm going to study art because what am I going to do with biology degree if I'm choosing now not to be a doctor?

Speaker A:

I thought I was going to go that route.

Speaker A:

And I realized I didn't want to Go to more school.

Speaker A:

So I thought, let's do art.

Speaker A:

I love art.

Speaker A:

It's great.

Speaker A:

I'll excel.

Speaker A:

And I'm glad I did that.

Speaker A:

However, after college, do you think I went to be an artist?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

I had to get a real job and I had to make a living.

Speaker A:

So basically, through life, I always did things that were creative.

Speaker A:

I was a jewelry designer.

Speaker A:

I'm also in the beauty business, so as a makeup artist and a lash extension artist.

Speaker A:

But I have to say, when Covid happened, which, it was hard on everyone and it was a difficult time.

Speaker A:

However, that is when I had the freedom to go back and paint because I couldn't work.

Speaker A:

I couldn't work on my clients.

Speaker A:

You know, we couldn't be face to face.

Speaker A:

So I had created a studio in my garage and I painted every single day for five months.

Speaker A:

That is a luxury.

Speaker A:

Five months, painting every single day.

Speaker A:

Cause I had nothing else to do.

Speaker A:

That's when I found my voice and that's when I found my confidence, I have to say, because then I had friends who were.

Speaker A:

At that time, a lot of people were home.

Speaker A:

So they started working on their homes and how their homes looked.

Speaker A:

So they were looking for art.

Speaker A:

And I was able to start selling my paintings.

Speaker A:

I actually took a course because when you learn art in college, they teach you how to be an artist and to paint or to sculpt or whatever your medium is, but they don't teach business of how to sell your art.

Speaker A:

So for anyone who's studying art in college, get a mentor or find an artist who's in the business of selling art, because that's a whole other side of it.

Speaker A:

And I think that's where people get stuck as artists, is.

Speaker A:

Well, I don't understand the business.

Speaker A:

So I took a class.

Speaker A:

I'm definitely, I would say, a student of life.

Speaker A:

I believe we all are.

Speaker A:

But I'm always in a course, in a class learning something.

Speaker A:

So right now I'm working on how to sell my art on Instagram.

Speaker A:

That's not a place that I feel most comfortable.

Speaker A:

So here I am going and doing something that's uncomfortable because I know that's where the growth is.

Speaker A:

And that's what being an artist is.

Speaker A:

It's is always pushing yourself to do something that doesn't feel so comfortable.

Speaker A:

And that is where the gold is.

Speaker A:

So I invite people to do that.

Speaker A:

And that's what happened was I took this course, and what I learned in this course was how do you separate yourself from everyone else who's doing maybe something that you're doing because I mean, especially in this time with AI and technology, anything could be copied, period.

Speaker A:

It's true.

Speaker A:

And it happens all the time.

Speaker A:

You know, when I did jewelry, my jewelry designs used to be copied.

Speaker A:

And it's a sign of you're doing something right.

Speaker A:

So take it as a compliment.

Speaker A:

But how are you going to be an artist?

Speaker A:

That separates yourself, the physical art, the beautiful part of it.

Speaker A:

And that's when I realized that I could combine my gifts.

Speaker A:

The word manifest, it feels so like, woo.

Speaker A:

It's magical.

Speaker A:

But I am magical.

Speaker A:

I have so much magic in me.

Speaker A:

I believe we all do.

Speaker A:

And I use that.

Speaker A:

I use my intuition and.

Speaker A:

And my Claire's, my ability to see and feel and know this knowing that I have.

Speaker A:

And I've always had people ask me, well, can you manifest this for me?

Speaker A:

And the truth is, I can't do it.

Speaker A:

You have your own free will.

Speaker A:

You have your perception that's gonna block whatever I'm doing.

Speaker A:

You have to do it for you.

Speaker A:

But I learned that I can help you help yourself through my art as a tool.

Speaker A:

So that's really how I got there.

Speaker A:

It was a lot of twists and turns as a creative.

Speaker A:

I've always done creative things to make a living.

Speaker A:

And I truly believe that if you put your energy into what you love and what your gift is, people will want it and they will pay you for it.

Speaker A:

It's okay.

Speaker A:

We all came here with our own gift.

Speaker A:

Nobody's the same.

Speaker A:

We all have our own DNA, our own fingerprint that's unique to us.

Speaker A:

So we all have our own gift.

Speaker A:

It's just remembering what that is and having the confidence to say, I'm just gonna do that and see what comes.

Speaker A:

Instead of putting your energy into, I need to make money.

Speaker A:

No, I need to do this gift because I'm obsessed with it and I can't not do it.

Speaker A:

So thank you for paying me for it and enjoying it and co creating with me.

Speaker A:

That's a long roundabout, but I think we got there.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we totally got there.

Speaker B:

I always just love to hear the story because so often we get the highlight reel and we don't get here were the highs and here were the lows.

Speaker B:

And a couple things really stood out.

Speaker B:

One, it's so much the voices that speak to you in your life that kind of build those first stories that we tell ourselves.

Speaker B:

And so I love that.

Speaker B:

It's like your mom gave you crayons too early and encouraged that side.

Speaker B:

And yet still in college, your dad's like, wait a Minute you can't be an artist, like, how are you gonna pay the bills?

Speaker B:

And even the people who support you the most are still fighting their own bias and the stories that they're telling themselves.

Speaker B:

But what I really want to get into a little bit deeper as well is you mentioned a couple times throughout there how you built the confidence as you were doing it those days where you got to paint every single day in your garage.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

You said built the confidence.

Speaker B:

And then at the end there, you're saying that you're like, I have to do this.

Speaker B:

So we'll see what happens.

Speaker B:

We'll just start and then let it develop.

Speaker B:

We don't have to have all the answers.

Speaker B:

Like you said, you went and took a class.

Speaker B:

You don't have to know just to start.

Speaker B:

And I'm very curious of some of those first moments when you were starting, when you were like, okay, I'm gonna do this as a business.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna make this my livelihood.

Speaker B:

What was going through your head in those times?

Speaker A:

There are a lot of voices, let me tell you.

Speaker A:

I mean, I also got a business coach at the time that I decided I was gonna make this a business because I needed accountability, and I needed someone to remind me why I was doing this and keep me on track.

Speaker A:

Because, yes, those voices are very loud.

Speaker A:

And I have to say, you know, we demonize the ego, but the ego's great.

Speaker A:

I mean, we have the ego voice.

Speaker A:

It thinks it's helping us, it's keeping us safe, but it's also keeping us small.

Speaker A:

And that ego is there to check us so that we could say, thank you so much for that reminder.

Speaker A:

And I'm still gonna go ahead and do this.

Speaker A:

It's important to have that push and pull and those checks and balances.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So, like, when I was painting alone in my studio, there were paintings that were horrible that I didn't like, of course.

Speaker A:

And I do a poor painting technique, so I'd pour it, and I'd look at it, and it's like, yeah, I don't like this.

Speaker A:

And I'd scrape it.

Speaker A:

And now, mind you, I am also a person who is very aware of wastes and how much plastic we use.

Speaker A:

Being an artist is a big stretch for me because there is a lot of waste that happens.

Speaker A:

And I have to remind myself that that waste is part of the process, because if you don't mess up, you don't learn.

Speaker A:

So I have to make.

Speaker A:

Like we talked about.

Speaker A:

We have to make bad art to make good art.

Speaker A:

And you have to not be afraid to make bad art, because you never know what's going to happen.

Speaker A:

And a lot of my process was actually, for me, in my own therapy of art, I'm a person also that likes to be in control.

Speaker A:

I don't know if you can relate, but I was not so easygoing in my teen years.

Speaker A:

I had to have control.

Speaker A:

I had to know what was happening.

Speaker A:

And in my practice, I actually have to take myself out of the way and allow what to happen.

Speaker A:

I have control of the colors that I choose.

Speaker A:

I have control of the way that I stack the colors.

Speaker A:

But once the paint comes out on the canvas, I allow the paint to tell me what to do.

Speaker A:

And that was something that has helped me in everything in my life.

Speaker A:

I always relate painting to therapy because there's so many lessons in how artists paint or anybody creates.

Speaker A:

You notice things about yourself and your personality and where your strengths are and where your stretches are, and it's okay.

Speaker A:

I'm not so good at that.

Speaker A:

I need to take a look at that and work on that more.

Speaker A:

Like I said, I'm a student of life, and I'm always wanting to better myself, so I use my art that way.

Speaker A:

And when we talk about the confidence that comes with doing something over and over and over again till you're not even thinking about it anymore, you're just doing it.

Speaker A:

It's so natural.

Speaker A:

It's like when you're learning how to roller skate, how difficult that is.

Speaker A:

And once you know how, how do you teach someone who's never been on roller skates?

Speaker A:

Because your mentality is no longer back in that beginning stage.

Speaker A:

Cause you just know, oh, it's just like this.

Speaker A:

And they're like, well, what do you mean?

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know how it's so hard to go back to the beginning, because I have knowledge now.

Speaker A:

But I do remember it really is about as soon as you're uncomfortable, that's the sign to keep going.

Speaker A:

And if you can keep going in that uncomfortable place, then you will get to the comfortable.

Speaker A:

Oh, and I've got chills right now just thinking about it.

Speaker A:

And I have to say, as an artist, I'm always like that.

Speaker A:

Yes, I have confidence, and I always have the time where, oh, my gosh, who am I to think that I could do that?

Speaker A:

When I start a new project, every painting that I start, I'm always nervous in the beginning of the painting.

Speaker A:

And I've been painting my whole life, and seriously, painting for the last five years, it's always okay, Cameron.

Speaker A:

It's gonna be fine.

Speaker A:

I have to talk to myself.

Speaker A:

You've done this before.

Speaker A:

You could do it again.

Speaker A:

And guess what?

Speaker A:

If you mess up, start over.

Speaker B:

I don't know if it really goes away.

Speaker A:

Cause I think we always up the ante as we get better, we do bigger, greater things.

Speaker A:

So then there's that fear and that voice again, telling us maybe you shouldn't do that or who's going to want to buy that or whatever we're telling ourselves to get us to not do it.

Speaker A:

It's like, thank you and I'm going to prove to you that I can do it well.

Speaker B:

And it's that control aspect coming up again.

Speaker B:

Because before you do that painting, that work of art, you don't know what it's going to turn into.

Speaker B:

You don't know what the final product is, and you don't know if it's going to be good.

Speaker B:

And that unknown, that uncertainty for so many of us is where it's the most uncomfortable.

Speaker B:

But like you said that uncomfortability is like the edge of like, okay, now we're getting better and now we're growing.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And for everyone listening, I really, Cameron, want you to, pun intended, paint the picture of what it's like to work with you when you are doing these manifestation paintings with your clients.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I love this.

Speaker A:

This is so fun.

Speaker A:

So you know what I'm going to tell you and why don't we just step through the process, Teresa, let's have some fun.

Speaker A:

So if you were to meet me or find me on Instagram or website or at an art show or wherever, and you decide, oh, interesting.

Speaker A:

I want to know more.

Speaker A:

We would have a let's talk art call so that I could get to know you and see what you're into.

Speaker A:

So for you, what's exciting you right now?

Speaker A:

Where do you see your life?

Speaker A:

What would you want to bring into your life right now?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

So I've got the answer for you a little bit, Cameron.

Speaker B:

Last week I turned 30.

Speaker B:

I've got my little 30s sash.

Speaker B:

I've got a tiara, I've got six things of flowers around me.

Speaker B:

Like we're still in this celebratory side of it.

Speaker B:

But something that I've realized is throughout my 20s, I held to the identity of being a business owner so strongly.

Speaker B:

And I love business.

Speaker B:

I could talk business all day long.

Speaker B:

I. I love it.

Speaker B:

I try not to have this be a business podcast, but it is anyway because I can't help myself.

Speaker B:

And that's who I love talking to.

Speaker B:

But within that I think that I have now realized, talk about living life by your own rules and finding your own way.

Speaker B:

And yet being like my identity as a business owner, I'm now just choosing whatever colors but coloring within the lines of that identity of I have to be good at strategy, we have to have better systems, we have to be better at hiring.

Speaker B:

And with this podcast, specifically with becoming obsessed with I don't really want to have the perfect strategy.

Speaker B:

I don't really want to have to figure out all the answers.

Speaker B:

To me, that's not what this is about.

Speaker B:

And so now in this season of life, I'm just leaning into that.

Speaker B:

And it's been an evolution of this podcast is three years old in April.

Speaker B:

And so I've kind of got there like a little bit and a little bit here and there.

Speaker B:

But lately I've just had this realization that like I'm not a business owner when it comes to the podcast.

Speaker B:

And even where I have a marketing agency and I'm the fractional CMO for clients, I don't want to just focus on the strategy.

Speaker B:

It's so tiring to me.

Speaker B:

And so I'm stepping more into how do I treat it like a playground, how do I treat work like play and bring more creativity than just strategy and doing it the right way, figuring out how to make it convert based on all these things and trying to just get outside the coloring book of like, here's what a business looks like and start with a blank page and say like, okay, if I didn't have to do that, what would we do?

Speaker B:

And what if I don't have the answer of what I want becoming obsessed to be?

Speaker B:

We just get to have it exist and walk through it every day and.

Speaker A:

Allow it to evolve.

Speaker A:

So then what I'm hearing is you're in celebration of who you are and who you're becoming.

Speaker A:

You're honoring that you've have 30 years of life and what you've created.

Speaker A:

Cuz that is incredible.

Speaker A:

So for you it'd be interesting because I don't know if you could look behind me.

Speaker A:

I'm in between two different paintings.

Speaker B:

Okay, I didn't know it was two different ones.

Speaker B:

I love that it's like Bing.

Speaker A:

One is like black, white and grays and the other one is bright in color.

Speaker A:

And I'm just in between because you can't fit a whole one in the screen.

Speaker A:

But what these are, these are paintings of their biographies.

Speaker A:

So this is a person like the one in color because this is a different personality.

Speaker A:

This is someone who's like, literally black and white.

Speaker A:

And what I do is, in this painting, each color represents a different aspect of who you are.

Speaker A:

Positive and not so positive.

Speaker A:

I don't like to really say negative, but the things that we want to improve on and the things that we love about ourselves, and then it's a celebration of who you are, because all of those things together make you whole.

Speaker A:

And we can't discount the things, you know, like our procrastination or our need to structure things.

Speaker A:

Your need to be structured as well as you wanting to let loose and have free freedom and play.

Speaker A:

So we could do something like this painting where then what I do is we talk about, what are your gifts?

Speaker A:

What are the three things that you know you're good at, not necessarily the things that people tell you you're good at, which those are great, too.

Speaker A:

But what do you really connect to in yourself that you love about yourself that you're great at, that you're like, this is my area of genius.

Speaker A:

And then what are the things that you're working on or the things that you do?

Speaker A:

And you're like, I procrastinate.

Speaker A:

And that's something that's so tough, but it's really what makes me me.

Speaker A:

So I'm going to accept that part of myself, even though I don't like it at times.

Speaker A:

And those are the ones that I put in glitter.

Speaker A:

So I don't know if you can tell some of these are in glitter.

Speaker A:

And then I shine light on that because, like, let's celebrate our stretches.

Speaker A:

It's part of who we are.

Speaker A:

And then the sooner that we can accept them and work with them, we transform them.

Speaker A:

So for you, this would be a really great piece as a reminder to you of who you are and to celebrate who you are at 30.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And so what I would do is we would have that talk about, what are the things you love, what are the things you don't so much.

Speaker A:

And then I would create a personalized guided visualization for you, and then we would have another meeting, and I would take you on a journey.

Speaker A:

Either we would meet in person, depending on if you live in Los Angeles or nearby, or we could do it by zoom.

Speaker A:

Either way, it works.

Speaker A:

It's all energy.

Speaker A:

And then I take you through this guided visualization, which is so much fun.

Speaker A:

And it's funny how a lot of people, when they come out of it and they say, you know, you said this word that really connected to me.

Speaker A:

And I thought, well, you gave me that word because in our conversation, I Take feverish notes and record.

Speaker A:

So I use all your words because this is your journey and it has to come from you.

Speaker A:

These paintings are co creations.

Speaker A:

I am the conduit to express, express what you told me.

Speaker A:

So this is within you and the journey is what is going to emotionally set you in to all of this, to all of what we talked about.

Speaker A:

So that when I afterwards go create the painting, in order to create your painting, I have to take myself, like I said, out of the equation.

Speaker A:

A lot of artists put themselves in the paintings.

Speaker A:

Caso has a blue period.

Speaker A:

You see their emotion, their energy, like what's going on in their lives.

Speaker A:

I'm the total opposite.

Speaker A:

I take myself out of the way and I channel you and your energy.

Speaker A:

I listen to our talk.

Speaker A:

I really get in that space of what it is that you want to create and who you are.

Speaker A:

And then I paint and I allow that to come through.

Speaker A:

So it's a very different process than normal artists have.

Speaker A:

And then I create the painting and we get to present it.

Speaker A:

And then it's so much fun when you get to unbox it or however it works out and we get to talk about it and go over it.

Speaker A:

And then you have a piece in.

Speaker A:

In your home or in your space in your office that really celebrates who you are and is a reminder to you because how the art works, whether it's something like this, this seems like more of a celebration of self.

Speaker A:

I feel like you're in that space and place of celebrating who you are as well as wanting to transcend into a newness, but more biographical to you rather than like, I want my life to look like this.

Speaker A:

And that's a whole different kind of painting, same process.

Speaker A:

But the best part about it for me is you now have a tool.

Speaker A:

I also think that paintings are portals.

Speaker A:

So they put you in a new space and place and mindset to where you can look at this painting and be reminded of who you are and drop into that confidence of like, yeah, that's me, look at how beautiful I am, look at how shiny I am, whatever comes up for you.

Speaker A:

And it also allows you the ability to create connection with people who come into your space.

Speaker A:

Because they're not going to know anything about this painting.

Speaker A:

It's just going to look like a pretty painting.

Speaker A:

But you get to say, oh, so I worked with this artist and you get to explain what the painting means and have a moment of connection, deep connection, because you get to share about yourself to someone else.

Speaker A:

I don't know where you're sitting right now, but I bet not so many people get to see your inspiration board.

Speaker A:

I remember when I make those, they were, like, tucked away.

Speaker A:

I made it, and it was somewhere where I could see.

Speaker A:

But it's not like I put it in the living room for everyone to see.

Speaker B:

Oh, girl.

Speaker B:

This is in our living room.

Speaker B:

I'm sitting at our dining room table.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker B:

It's all the little journeys and moments from my partner and I through our, like, travels and just things we've collected.

Speaker A:

Oh, I love that.

Speaker A:

So I was single most of the time when I was doing these, so most of mine were about love and finding my man.

Speaker A:

And so I did not want to put that in the living room because if I had someone over, I'd be quite embarrassed.

Speaker A:

But I love that you have yours in your living room.

Speaker A:

More power to you.

Speaker A:

But this way, you can have something that you can explain or have the opportunity to express and be proud.

Speaker A:

So that's the process.

Speaker B:

I have to say that I'm pulling inspiration from two of my favorite people in the world.

Speaker B:

One is my best friend, Sydney, and another is my really good friend, Fia.

Speaker B:

Both of their homes feel like a museum.

Speaker B:

You could just be in there, walk around, and see something new every time.

Speaker B:

And so that's really where the inspiration for this came from, is when you have people in your space inviting them to see these little moments.

Speaker B:

And like you were saying with your paintings, these conversations.

Speaker B:

But, Cameron, something very interesting happened as you were talking for everyone listening on audio.

Speaker B:

You had the center of this piece.

Speaker B:

Your head was right in front of it.

Speaker B:

And we were talking about the piece.

Speaker B:

You were just talking about the process.

Speaker B:

And I did not see the orange color at all in that painting.

Speaker B:

And then you were talking, and all of a sudden, all I could see was the orange.

Speaker B:

I don't know if the lighting shifted or my perspective shifted, but could you share what the orange actually represents in that specific painting?

Speaker A:

Well, in this painting, it's their loudness.

Speaker A:

Like, their too muchness, especially.

Speaker A:

A lot of women, including myself, have always been told, like, oh, you're too much.

Speaker A:

And it's like, oh, if I'm too much, then go find less.

Speaker A:

But a lot of times I would dim my light because I felt like, oh, I'm too much for this space.

Speaker A:

I have to conform.

Speaker A:

I don't want to make people uncomfortable.

Speaker A:

But you learn to just find your people, and that's the reminder to be loud within reason.

Speaker A:

Like, when you're on a plane, please don't be loud.

Speaker A:

Be very quiet.

Speaker A:

But Let your personality be loud.

Speaker A:

Don't quiet yourself or others.

Speaker A:

If they're uncomfortable, that's okay.

Speaker A:

They can go somewhere else.

Speaker A:

That's fine.

Speaker A:

And I'm very sensitive to sound and people's energies.

Speaker A:

So, like, I wouldn't tell someone to change.

Speaker A:

I would just take care of myself and go somewhere else.

Speaker A:

That's okay.

Speaker A:

But that's what this orange is.

Speaker A:

And I love that you notice that, because that's one thing about this painting, is that I tell people, when you stand in front of it, focus on one color and that color will pop out and you won't notice the others.

Speaker A:

And then change your perspective.

Speaker A:

Perspective and think of a different color.

Speaker A:

And then all of a sudden, that one will pop out.

Speaker A:

And, well, you can't see when I'm in front of it, but it goes to a point.

Speaker A:

So what happens is you see that color, and it just converges right there, and it takes you into the center point.

Speaker A:

So it's an optical illusion piece.

Speaker A:

It's really fun to stand in front of and to play with.

Speaker A:

So I love that you noticed the orange, because the orange is a lot of the painting, and you didn't see it in the beginning.

Speaker A:

It's really cool.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I literally, just before you even explained to do that exercise, had that experience with this painting.

Speaker B:

And I don't know what color I was focused on before I had seen the sparkles.

Speaker B:

And I think maybe I was seeing the, like, lavender color a bit, but I didn't feel like I was focused on it.

Speaker B:

But then all of a sudden, I was like, holy moly, that orange is so bright.

Speaker B:

How did I not see that?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And you think about it.

Speaker A:

It's like how you see people when you first meet them.

Speaker A:

You'll notice an aspect about them, about their personality.

Speaker A:

And as you get to know them and you peel the onion back, you get deeper and deeper into who they are, and you see more things about them.

Speaker A:

And this is a painting that's like, here I am, the good, the bad, the ugly.

Speaker A:

This is me, and I'm celebrating it.

Speaker A:

So this is.

Speaker A:

I call it a celebration of self painting.

Speaker A:

It's like pop art.

Speaker A:

So it's not a standard portrait, but it's a portrait.

Speaker B:

It's so beautiful.

Speaker B:

Like, that whole expression of bringing the totality of who somebody is.

Speaker B:

And we've talked a little bit about identity and, like, labels, but it is so often, I think we get stuck on.

Speaker B:

Well, I have this theory that as soon as I figured out who I am, and I'm like, this is who I am, and this is how I operate.

Speaker B:

Then, like, within a few days, I realized, no, that's who I was.

Speaker B:

Two years ago.

Speaker B:

I finally figured out who she was.

Speaker B:

That's actually not who I am anymore.

Speaker B:

And so celebrating the whole of these different aspects and how they come together.

Speaker B:

And I can just see somebody having an experience with this piece of themselves in their home and doing what I just did, where it's like all of a sudden they have this shift and they're like, you know, I really was never focused on that piece, that color, that part of the picture.

Speaker B:

But now that's really drawing me in and just symbolizing that kind of growth process journey that we all go on is really, really cool.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And it's important to have.

Speaker A:

I believe you're in the same understanding.

Speaker A:

That's like, what you focus on grows.

Speaker A:

So, like, as we have a piece of art that focuses on who we are, who we want to be, what we want to create in our life, that's how we bring it into our lives, is having that daily reminder of.

Speaker A:

That's why you have your board in your living room, so you can see all of those and be like, yes, I'm going there.

Speaker A:

It's already happened.

Speaker A:

I'm just now pulling it in.

Speaker A:

I believe as soon as you can think exists, it's just not in your physical awareness yet.

Speaker A:

And it will be.

Speaker A:

That's happening.

Speaker A:

It's as much as we call it manifestation and you think it's this magic, it's also science because we have the reticular activating system in the back of our head that when you focus on something, that network of neurons fires and says, okay, now we're going to look out in the world and filter everything to support that idea and bring it into your awareness.

Speaker A:

All the opportunities, the synchronicities, everything, it's all working for you.

Speaker A:

It's about being present and having an awareness about it.

Speaker B:

You mentioned in the beginning that people will be like, can you manifest it for me?

Speaker B:

And you're like, no, that's your job.

Speaker B:

And it makes so much sense now why people would ask you that.

Speaker B:

But I'm very curious what some of your first experiences with manifestation were or times that you look back and you're like, I didn't know that that's what I was doing, but I was.

Speaker B:

And how you really brought that into your life.

Speaker B:

I know on the quotable podcast, you said people call you magic something, right?

Speaker A:

Magic Maker.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

What were the seedlings?

Speaker B:

The very beginnings of miss Magic Maker.

Speaker A:

I'm Trying to think of how far back I can remember.

Speaker A:

I had this knowing, like, everything always works out for me.

Speaker A:

That was like my mantra at a young age.

Speaker A:

I just kn, like, it's always going to work out.

Speaker A:

And I was never a plan B girl.

Speaker A:

I always had a plan A.

Speaker A:

And if plan A didn't happen, I would just make a new plan A. I never gave the possibility that it wasn't going to happen.

Speaker A:

It was always going to happen, and that was it.

Speaker A:

You actually couldn't tell me.

Speaker A:

No, you tell me.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

I was like, oh, I'm going to figure it out.

Speaker A:

That's just who I always was.

Speaker A:

Until, like, I think when I would travel and the weather was always perfect.

Speaker A:

Literally, I travel, the weather's always perfect.

Speaker A:

If I could go somewhere in rainy season and it won't rain, oh, it's monsoon season.

Speaker A:

I'm about to have my wedding in October in Cancun, in between hurricane season and rainy season.

Speaker A:

And people are like, what?

Speaker A:

I'm like, it's gonna be fine.

Speaker B:

It's gonna be great.

Speaker B:

I'm good.

Speaker B:

Congratulations on that, by the way.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Amazing.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

But it's like, I always say, like, I'm good weather karma.

Speaker A:

When I travel, I always get the best parking.

Speaker A:

I get meters in front of where I'm going, and I get meters that have money in them.

Speaker A:

Especially in downtown LA, where it's like literally a dollar for 10 minutes.

Speaker A:

It's very expensive.

Speaker B:

I'm in Omaha, Nebraska, and I complain about our parking here.

Speaker B:

I won't get into it today, but we have.

Speaker B:

Basically all of our free lots just got turned into paid parking.

Speaker B:

And so I have a rant, a full soapbox rant that I won't do right now.

Speaker A:

Seriously.

Speaker A:

I still don't understand why we pay for parking.

Speaker A:

Believe me, I'm with you, girl.

Speaker A:

I will get on that soapbox with you.

Speaker A:

But it's like that, to me, was the start of it.

Speaker A:

It was the knowing that it always was gonna work out for me.

Speaker A:

And when it didn't, it actually didn't matter.

Speaker A:

Because then I would just change my perspective, my need, my desire to what I now know was possible with the new information.

Speaker A:

When you have the idea, you don't have all the information.

Speaker A:

Cause that's in the future.

Speaker A:

And then things come in because everyone else is having their own experience and other things are happening that you know nothing about.

Speaker A:

And then you're like, oh, okay, I could change my mind.

Speaker A:

So it's fine.

Speaker A:

But that was the beginning of manifestation.

Speaker A:

And I didn't know that it was an active thing.

Speaker A:

I just always believed that I can have whatever I.

Speaker A:

And you know what I have to say, my mom always told me, she's like, you can have whatever you want.

Speaker A:

She used to tell me that as.

Speaker B:

You're talking about this, I just have my mom's voice in my head.

Speaker B:

My whole life, she's been like, you just live a charmed life.

Speaker B:

She planted that seed at me that it's just like, you know what?

Speaker B:

Everything just works out for you.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, it does, doesn't it?

Speaker B:

And who knows, the chicken or the egg?

Speaker B:

But it is.

Speaker B:

It's like that story was planted in me.

Speaker B:

And I said, yes, it does, doesn't it?

Speaker B:

And it's really interesting because then in my mid-20s, really had a time of life where I started to be like, what if I change my story a little bit?

Speaker B:

And what if I was never afraid of anything?

Speaker B:

I was like, what if I allow myself to be afraid of things?

Speaker B:

And I started getting, like, very crazy anxiety.

Speaker B:

There's stuff going on around me.

Speaker B:

But it was.

Speaker B:

It was like I almost opened myself up a little bit more to not what if everything doesn't work out?

Speaker B:

But like, okay, what could go wrong?

Speaker B:

And I felt that shift in myself.

Speaker B:

And again, chicken or egg.

Speaker B:

But it is.

Speaker B:

The stories you tell yourself are so powerful.

Speaker B:

And I love that your mom, our moms.

Speaker B:

Yay.

Speaker B:

Moms planted that in you and really fostered that where it is.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Things are gonna work out for you.

Speaker B:

You're going to be amazing.

Speaker B:

And look at you now.

Speaker B:

You're amazing, Cameron.

Speaker B:

I'm like, oh, thank you.

Speaker A:

To the point of the manifestation.

Speaker A:

I also remember as a kid, one of my favorite books was the Little Engine that Could.

Speaker A:

And I don't know if you've read this book, but it's the engine you know, has to go up the hill and all these things are happen would make it not be able to go up the hill.

Speaker A:

But it's like, I think I can.

Speaker A:

I think I can.

Speaker A:

I think I can.

Speaker A:

And then it goes over the hill and it's.

Speaker A:

I thought I could.

Speaker A:

I thought I could.

Speaker A:

And that's really what it is.

Speaker A:

We're the only ones that keep ourselves from not having what we want.

Speaker A:

The only thing keeping us from it is us, because we can have it.

Speaker A:

You just have to not even believe it.

Speaker A:

Know it.

Speaker A:

You have to know it.

Speaker A:

Belief is putting something outside yourself.

Speaker A:

Knowing comes from within.

Speaker A:

So when you know, then nothing will stop you.

Speaker A:

That's the fun part.

Speaker A:

So yeah.

Speaker A:

Little engine that could.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

I have a few more questions for you today before we wrap up, because I love to know what people are obsessed with.

Speaker B:

And so one of the kind of pillars of becoming obsessed is play and creativity and rest.

Speaker B:

And as an artist, I'm like, okay, you're creating for work, but outside of the actual paintings and art that you're creating for your clients or that you're creating to sell, what other ways are you obsessed with in your life?

Speaker B:

Bringing that play, that kind of maybe slowing down rest or other ways of being creative in your life?

Speaker A:

It's funny, I just recently, over the holidays, got a rebounder.

Speaker A:

It's literally a mini trampoline, like a personal trampoline.

Speaker A:

And I love it.

Speaker A:

I jump every day.

Speaker A:

I bounce every day.

Speaker A:

And I tell people, when you're jumping, you can't be angry, you can't be anxious, you can't be annoyed.

Speaker A:

You can't have any negative feeling because also you're moving your body.

Speaker A:

And I don't know if you're aware, but when animals are in distress, they shake.

Speaker A:

Their bodies shake.

Speaker A:

They have to move the energy and move the energy out and change into a different state.

Speaker A:

State.

Speaker A:

So my new obsession is this rebounder.

Speaker A:

And I've just been bouncing.

Speaker A:

Sometimes I put on music, Sometimes I listen to an audible book.

Speaker A:

I, like, am working as I'm bouncing, but I'm bouncing because I know that it's a state changer right away.

Speaker A:

Even if I'm feeling happy, I'll bounce.

Speaker A:

That makes me happy.

Speaker A:

And I have it where I could, like, look outside.

Speaker A:

I don't have it outside.

Speaker A:

I don't have a backyard.

Speaker A:

But if I had a backyard, I'd put it out there and be in nature and bouncing, because to me, nature is the best thing ever.

Speaker A:

One other thing, I'm obsessed with beach walks.

Speaker A:

I live in Los Angeles, and I'm by the beach.

Speaker A:

So to go and walk on the beach, I know, is such a blessing because not everybody has the ability to do that.

Speaker A:

And I can do it every day if I choose.

Speaker A:

Having my feet in the ground and grounding, touching saltwater for cleansing, hoping that I see dolphins.

Speaker A:

And the days that I see dolphins, it's, oh, today's gonna be a good day if I do a beach walk in the morning.

Speaker A:

And even the other day, went swimming in the ocean with a friend, and we were going to come in, and I look and the dolphins are right there, 10ft from us in the ocean, swimming with dolphins.

Speaker A:

It was just like, I love my Life.

Speaker B:

I just love my life.

Speaker A:

This is my life right now.

Speaker A:

And it was probably like a Thursday afternoon because, you know, I have the best boss in town.

Speaker A:

I am my own boss.

Speaker A:

So I got to go at 11 o'.

Speaker A:

Clock.

Speaker A:

Swimming with dolphins in the ocean.

Speaker A:

I don't think anything beats being in nature.

Speaker A:

I think that's so my happy place.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I feel you on that one.

Speaker B:

I am like, get me in nature.

Speaker B:

And I mentioned I'm in Omaha, Nebraska.

Speaker B:

So we don't have mountains, we don't have oceans.

Speaker B:

We maybe have some weird beaches with some man made lakes.

Speaker B:

But we do have one really great forest hiking spot.

Speaker B:

And even in town we have beautiful parks with lots of trees.

Speaker B:

And that is like a daily reset.

Speaker B:

Just go on a little walk.

Speaker B:

I love watching just the little squirrels and the birds.

Speaker B:

It is.

Speaker B:

It's just such a mind changer.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Okay, one more question.

Speaker B:

You mentioned maybe listening to podcasts or audiobooks.

Speaker B:

This could go for things that are just purely entertainment or for educational.

Speaker B:

But what are you currently listening to, Watching, reading, Anything kind of in that realm?

Speaker A:

Yeah, a lot of things.

Speaker A:

Well, I just finished one of Joe Dispenza's book, New Life, New you.

Speaker A:

You know, it's all about neuroplasticity and how, like I said, I'm a student of life.

Speaker A:

I'm always working on making myself the best version of self.

Speaker A:

And so I just finished his book, which I'm like, okay, it's a reminder to get back into daily meditation.

Speaker A:

Meditation isn't always just sitting there cross legged.

Speaker A:

For me, a lot of my meditation is when I'm painting because I'm not thinking.

Speaker A:

I take myself out of the way.

Speaker A:

But also a book that I'm reading is called how to Feel Loved by.

Speaker A:

There's two authors, one of them Sonia Lubnierski.

Speaker A:

And that is a really important book because, well, she studied happiness for 30 years.

Speaker A:

Like the science of how do we create happiness?

Speaker A:

And underneath, happiness was love.

Speaker A:

And we really just need to feel loved.

Speaker A:

How to feel loved is really important.

Speaker A:

So I'm now reading her book because it relates to the latest project that I'm currently in called the Love Mural.

Speaker A:

And so with my Love Mural, it's this huge mural of 222 individual paintings.

Speaker A:

The idea is I'm selling them individually so people can become a part of something greater than themselves.

Speaker A:

And my mission is to raise the love frequency around the entire planet.

Speaker A:

This is one of those projects where when I first started, I was like, I didn't know the scale of what it Was.

Speaker A:

It was something small.

Speaker A:

And now it's grown and all these ideas are coming in and inspirations.

Speaker A:

Now I'm like, oh, I'm creating a community.

Speaker A:

And I want to really push this idea of, okay, how do I help people have more love, show more love, feel more love, everything surrounded by love.

Speaker A:

So that's why I'm now.

Speaker A:

This is my research in reading Sonia's book, who I met.

Speaker A:

And she's amazing.

Speaker A:

So a lot of it, of what I read and what I take in, is how to make my life better and how to serve others.

Speaker A:

So those are two things that I could think of right now.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh, Cameron, I'm so happy to be in your world now.

Speaker B:

Everything you're saying, I'm just like, oh, it's oozing.

Speaker B:

Like the life, the love, the joy is oozing out of you in a way that's so beautiful.

Speaker B:

How can somebody else get into your world, work with you, and just connect with you?

Speaker A:

Well, you mentioned earlier my website, Cameron Cohenart.com and on there there's a link that we can schedule.

Speaker A:

Let's chat art.

Speaker A:

Let's talk art.

Speaker A:

I love talking about art and I love getting people's stories.

Speaker A:

So if you want to chat with me, definitely you could go to my website or follow me on Instagram.

Speaker A:

Cameron Cohen, art.

Speaker A:

And so I would love to interact with people and see how they could become a part of the Love Mural and become an ambassador of art.

Speaker A:

That's my newest project is when you get a love painting, you become an ambassador of art.

Speaker A:

I really feel like love is the foundation for everything.

Speaker A:

You can't really go further until you have love.

Speaker A:

Love is first.

Speaker A:

So I know there's so much going on in the world right now, and the Beatles had it right.

Speaker A:

All we need is love.

Speaker A:

I'd love to stay connected to you, Teresa, as well, and see how we can have people be a part of this community that believes in love still and wants to push it forward.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

Amazing.

Speaker B:

1000%.

Speaker B:

This community of love as the foundation.

Speaker B:

And I'm here for that.

Speaker B:

So you're still listening.

Speaker B:

Go book a call to talk art with Cameron or buy one of these pieces so that you can be an art ambassador and have more love reflected in your home.

Speaker B:

And then head to Instagram, send us a dm.

Speaker B:

You can find me at Becoming Obsessed Podcast and tell me what you took away from this episode.

Speaker B:

Maybe you're an artist who wants to do art for a living, or maybe you don't think you're creative and now you're feeling inspired.

Speaker B:

Make something.

Speaker B:

Send it to us.

Speaker B:

Show it to us.

Speaker B:

We would love to see it.

Speaker B:

Then send this to a friend who could really use a boost in their life as well, because we're on a mission to help more people build a life they truly love.

Speaker B:

Okay, y', all, let's go get obsessed.

Speaker B:

You're still listening, which means this episode connected with you, and I want to know how.

Speaker B:

Send me a DM on Instagram at Becoming Obsessed pod.

Speaker B:

Then send this episode to a friend.

Speaker B:

If you know someone who is building a life that they love or they're feeling a little stuck and might just need a nudge, send this to them.

Speaker B:

Then rate and review because it also helps us get the word out.

Speaker B:

And as you know, we're on a mission for more people to live a life they truly love.

Speaker B:

All right, let's go get obsessed.

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