This episode marks a special reunion. Three years after her initial appearance on my podcast, Nj Shelsby returns to share her pivotal moments — from grappling with an autoimmune disease to redefining work-life balance. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise, NJ offers a blueprint for achieving success without falling into burnout.

In this episode, Nj highlights the struggles many solopreneurs deal with, from getting caught up in too many tasks to being sidetracked by modern distractions. Learn the actionable strategies to take back control of your time and focus on what truly matters. We also discuss the power of authentic relationships, emphasizing platforms like LinkedIn as goldmines for meaningful connections.

Whether you're navigating the complexities of entrepreneurship or simply looking to enhance your productivity, this episode promises to inspire and equip you with actionable strategies.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• How work-related stress can impact your health
• Managing time and attention in a world of distractions
• The challenges of delegating tasks while also acknowledging the need to train oneself to let go of emotions and trust others
• Managing email inbox: Unsubscribing from emails to free up decision bandwidth
• How social media gives us all these opportunities, but if not managed, can steal our time, and leave us disconnected
• How to prioritize tasks and manage time for increased productivity

You can reach NJ at: nj@njshelsby.com

Website: http://www.njshelsby.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/njshelsby/

Giveaway: Exercise they can use when their head is spinning because they have so much to do that they're just bouncing from one thing to the next but not completing anything. https://njshelsby.com/get-out-of-overwhelm/

A little about me: 

I began my career as a teacher, was a corporate trainer for many years, and then found my niche training & supporting business owners, entrepreneurs & sales professionals to network at a world-class level. My passion is working with motivated people, who are coachable and who want to build their businesses through relationship marketing and networking (online & offline). I help my clients create retention strategies, grow through referrals, and create loyal customers by staying connected. 

In appreciation for being here, I have a couple of items for you. 

A LinkedIn Checklist for setting up your fully optimized Profile:  

An opportunity to test drive the Follow Up system I recommend by taking the  

10 Card Challenge – you won’t regret it.   

Connect with me: 

http://JanicePorter.com 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiceporter/ 

https://www.facebook.com/janiceporter1 

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to this week's

episode of relationships rule. I am interviewing today a

wonderful woman that I actually interviewed in the first year of

my podcast, which seems like many, many moons ago, it because

it is now it's over three years, and I'm pretty excited about it.

And it's always good to revisit with people who have made

changes grown in their businesses as well as things

that have happened for me. So my guest today is MJ shells be

welcome to the show, first of all,

thank you. It's great to be here.

Thank you. And NJ is a productivity powerhouse. As

a wife and mother who once worked in an intense corporate

environment, and J experienced firsthand the damaging effects

of long hours and stress. She developed an autoimmune disease

and was forced to start working smarter, not harder. Now she

takes what she's learned and helps other helps business

owners and professionals gain control of their time, eliminate

distractions, and focus on what really matters. So they can

achieve a new level of success while working fewer hours. And

honestly, I need some of that, I'll tell you, because

sometimes, sometimes it's okay to just say, enough is enough

and walk away for the day. But sometimes, things hang over your

head, and it's like, Oh, my goodness, I didn't get it all

done today. And it's frustrating. And being a

solopreneur pretty much. That happens a lot. And I'm sure you

hear that kind of complaint often. So first of all, let's

back up and and come back to that. But I want to know what

happened to you. And how long ago was this? And and what did

that like? That changed a lot for you?

It did, because I was a workaholic. I mean that I

worked 24 hours straight, literally no exaggeration. I was

so caught up into you know, the BS story of this is important.

You know, I've got to do it. If I don't do it, it won't get

done. Right. You know, all that kind of thing.

Were you climbing the corporate ladder? Yes, I

was climbing the corporate ladder. And, you know,

a couple of things happened. My, my dad died, I got a note that

my son left on the table. You know, Mom, how come I barely

ever see you anymore, you know, and being and then being

diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, which when when I got

the diagnosis, they thought it was lung cancer. And through the

weekend, you know, that's what I was dealing with. And then I got

the biopsy on Monday. And it was like, the good news is you don't

have cancer. The bad news is you have an autoimmune disease. And

so it really kind of woke me up to what was really important in

life. And I can see now that I didn't have too much to do,

right, I could have gotten it all done in less hours, I had a

focus problem. I wasn't I wasn't honoring my biology, you know, I

wasn't sleeping wasn't eating right. Well, you know, wasn't

doing those things. I wasn't honoring the biology of how the

brain works, right? We are hardwired for distraction. If

you imagine 1000s of years ago, you're collecting berries to

feed the family and you hear a rustling off in the bushes,

right, your alert system is going to go on guard because

it's probably something that's going to eat you. And so you had

to just be distracted by things like that. And so we still have

the same hard wiring. And today, it's you know, some software

company trying to get you to look at their screen, so that

they can make more money. But our biological systems don't

know the difference. And so, you know, we have to put in place

those kinds of things. And I didn't realize that back at the

time, you know, back in the day. And so the result was I was

working way too many hours and just burnt myself out to the

point that I got the autoimmune disease,

and a son who was crying for help and needed

Exactly, yeah. And thanks for sharing that. I I think though,

that if that had happened today, do you think that you might have

had maybe more of a nervous breakdown around it too or

something because there's so much today so much information

overload that back then, you know, you I don't think it was

as I mean, it was definitely bad because it got you ill but you

know what I'm saying right there. Right.

Well Well, it's interesting you say that because

one of the things that I didn't mention that, you know, one of

the triggering points is, I was driving to my doctor's office

for some appointment. And I had been there, like six or seven

times, and I couldn't remember how to get there. Now, this

isn't like, Oh, give me like a minute to figure it out. This is

10 or 15 minutes later, I still couldn't remember I had to call

my coworker who I carpooled with some times, and ask him how to

get there. And my doctor was very alarmed when I told him

what happened. And just with this, you know, and he was like,

one of these jolly, you know, good, you know, doctors who were

always smiling and laughing, and he had this just look on his

face of just total seriousness, and he said, You have to

immediately decrease your stress level. And so I hate to think

what today that would be like, exactly,

yeah, oh, my goodness. Well, one of the

things that will so now go fast forwarding to today, and what I

just said about, you know, just feeling at the end of the day,

that it's never going to end, I just have always got more and

more things to do. What What's your comment to me around that?

Yeah. So see, a lot of that, though, is an illusion.

Yeah. And all these companies are, have gotten so good at

persuasive marketing, like, back in the day, you had a couple of

companies who were good at that, and you get these, you know,

letters in the mail, that you would open up and be like, Whoa,

and they'd suck you in? Yes, companies didn't know how to do

that kind of marketing today, you know, millions and millions

of companies do and they end up in your inbox. And so they're

convincing you that you have to do all of the things. And it's a

lie. Like, we were talking before you hit record, you know,

as solopreneurs, there's all of these things that you can do to

market your business. There's, you know, LinkedIn, and Facebook

and Instagram and YouTube and podcasts and, you know, right,

exactly. And every person who sells how to do that, they're

sending you emails, convincing you that business can't grow

without without that. And the reality is, you don't, you only

need to do one consistently. And then once you master that you

have the bandwidth, and it's all systematized, you can add

another one. But we get sucked into believing that we have to

do it all.

It's true. It's really true. And it's funny,

because when I'm training my clients around LinkedIn,

sometimes on a first conversation, I'll hear them

say, Well, I gotta get all my all my social media organized, I

got to do my LinkedIn, and my Facebook and my Instagram, like,

Wait, stop, I do. What do you do now? None of it will pick one.

Let's start there, right? Even if it's not LinkedIn, I don't

care you do, what feels right, and where your audience is,

right? Because we I know it, I'm good when I'm telling other

people, but I get caught in that trap, as well. And it's. So that

brings me to actually so slowing down in different ways and

accepting what maybe, I have decided is important for me.

It's, I don't feel it's about convincing other people. It's

about finding people who are like minded, and like that, that

platform or that's where their audience is, and so I can help

them. But one of the things that in my notes here from you,

actually, is a comment about talk, let's talk about how even

when, you know, it's essential to put in time to build

relationships. It's difficult to find that time. So one of my

things on LinkedIn is, I feel that that tool is underutilized

in terms of creating and building relationships, because

it's a goldmine. And I have said time and time again on my

podcast. Here's a guest, guess what? I met them on LinkedIn.

Here's another guest, guess what? I met them on LinkedIn.

And so for me, I'm doing what very few people are doing is

building those relationships. So that's what I like to do.

Therefore, I find time to do it. Yes,

yes, exactly. And I think that today, we have all of

these things, fracturing our attention and focus Right, yeah,

you know, there's so many things that you could be spending your

time and so many things that are distracting you. And so what

happens is, your brain starts spinning, right? And going from,

you know, you go to work on one thing and you're like, oh, you

know, I almost forgot I have to do this. And oh, I have to

remote reply to that email. I'm guilty of that, right. And when

you're in that state of mind, unless you are like you and an

expert at using it, your brain is going to shut down, your

brain can't like, oh, let's do something new that we don't know

what to do. It's just going to keep saying, Okay, we're going

to do that later. We're going to do that later. Because it's

looking for what is urgent, and you know, the crisis to solve,

but it's deluding you as to what is really urgent and important.

And so it'll be responding to a test a text message that you

don't need to respond to or something. And so really, the

first step is to get your mind to settle down and stop

spinning. And to do that, you have to get out of your head,

all of the things that you have to do. And a lot of the mistake,

the mistake that I see a lot of people make is they just make

one long list. And that's a great starting point. But that's

overwhelming, like, and you can start with a mind dump. But if

you leave it there, you're more overwhelmed, because you have

this long list. Okay, so, you know, then you have to go

through it. And you know, what can I what is really not

important that I can cross off, somebody tried to convince me,

here's what I need to do, you know, I have to work on

Instagram, no, no, I've committed, I'm only going to

work one one platform at a time LinkedIn it is so I can cross

off the Instagram for right now. And then look at you know, what

can wait until, you know, next month, what can wait till next

week, and then take those things off of that, you know, kind of

like I normally like indicate, like, you know, M for next

month, you know, W for next week, until you really get down

to this limited number that Oh, my God, these are urgent have to

be done today, take another sheet of paper, and then just

today and just write those things down. So they got those

other things out of mind. And when you do that, then your

brain can kind of settle down, and it's not spinning

constantly, because it doesn't know where to start what to work

on. Because your brain doesn't know timewise it can't tell the

difference between, you know, an urgent thing that needs to be

done today. And an important thing that needs to be done in a

week, and just smashes it all together and tries to do them

all now.

Yeah, I was having this conversation

yesterday with a friend of mine who does some tech back and

stuff for me. And I was saying that even with, you know, just

looking at the three parts of my business, when it comes to just

my podcast, I listed all these things that have to be done

every week. And I don't want to be doing them. But they're

taking up time that I am doing them. So, but But I I have this

push me pull you thing around. If I don't do them? I'm not.

Maybe it's not having not found the right person. I don't know.

But I don't feel the trust of having someone else do these

things. To my level of satisfaction. Right?

Right. And that's a common thing, I think that we go

through is that we, you know, we're afraid that people are

going to make us look bad. And I used to have that. Now, it's so

funny that, you know, I won't eat sometimes. You know, I've

had like my husband who is amazing with word sometimes he's

written emails for me, I don't even read them. I'm just like,

Okay, send it out. Like if I like, I just have to let it go.

Like I just don't even worry about that stuff anymore.

But you have to train yourself to do that. I

did. I actually it's this kind of weird little thing

that we store emotions in our body. And that, you know, the

way that we're made is that you know the neurons fire they

release neuro peptides and were made to feel it and just feel it

fully and let it go right. When we're young things happen to us

that are very, you know, traumatic, you know, someone on

the playground bullying you or you know your sibling laughing

and you whatever it is right that but for us as kids, it's

traumatic and we don't feel the emotions fully. We are just kind

of push them down. And what it does is it kind of creates this

connection chip from the neuron firing to the neuro peptides

being released. And so unconsciously, we don't even

realize it, we have these feelings that kind of come up.

And then our unconscious mind is like, Oh, I don't want to feel

that. So therefore, I'm going to change behavior in order to

avoid that. So let's say something happened, when you

were in, you know, third grade, and you stood up to do a

presentation in class, and somebody made a joke, and

everybody laughed, right? You don't want to look stupid. So

therefore, when you think about outsourcing and having someone

else do something, unconsciously, you're not even

aware. It triggers, you know, the neurons fire these neuro

peptides are released. And there's a subtle feeling in the

body, that your unconscious mind is like, Yep, let's divert her

attention away from that. So basically, I, you know, had to

go through and release all of that, so that there wasn't that

connection. You know, it's kind of like Pavlov's dog. Right?

Yeah. Where, you know, by flooding the neurons so that it,

it breaks that connection, and then it's just gone. So did you

do that yourself?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, so that takes some

dedication and work to, to do that, for

sure. I love personal development work. I love to

grow. So it's kind of for me, that's my fun. My husband makes

fun of me. You know, to him. It's like pulling teeth. Yeah.

Like, yeah, we have the same the same issue

there. So I saw something that you had responded to, or someone

was talking about? What were they talking about? Just a

second. They were talking about? Oh, about unsubscribing to

different emails. And and you said it's easy to hit delete,

without realizing all those emails, eat away at your

decision bandwidth. This is me, okay. Like, if you knew how many

emails were in my inbox, he would die. By midday, many

people are in decision fatigue and end up putting off important

decisions. When we unsubscribe, we're blocking out future

decisions from eating away our focus and our ability to make

decisions. That was your comment, and I love that. But

excuse me, it takes time to go and do all that. unsubscribing

actually,

it doesn't. Okay, talk to me, there is a program

on Maelstrom m a i l s t r o m. And I can't. It's some nominal

fee. You know, it used to be, you know, like, 499, I think it

might be up to 899 a month, but you don't need more than one

month, right. And what it does is it loads your inbox, and you

can like bulk unsubscribe. And I've had clients who've had like

4000 emails in their inbox and clear them out, including

unsubscribing in and our

about 37,000. Okay,

so you know, but think about it, if you've got

1000 emails from a person, it doesn't take any longer to

unsubscribe and delete using Maelstrom benefits 100 from that

person. So, you know, so it's just a matter of how long

you've, you know, it's not like you've got 10 emails from, you

know, 3700 people, you got, you know, probably 50 Different

people who are sending you hundreds of emails.

I know. It's unbelievable. Anyway, so. So

more and more today, people aren't able to focus, right, we

say that we have to grab someone's attention in the first

few seconds, or it's never going to happen, right? It's even less

than seven seconds anymore. Right? So. So what's your advice

to people? Do we worry about that when we're marketing? Or do

we just do what makes us feel more Zim?

I feel like it's a combination. I don't feel like

you need to use a marketing strategy that's in alignment

with you. If you like doing video, do video if you like

writing, do writing. You have to do what's in alignment. And I

think we have to not be boring. You know, like we have to be

kind of strategic about what we're saying and make sure that

we're taking our point of view so that it's about us that we're

not just, you know, putting out more and more content that's the

same as what everybody else also saying, but we need a unique

point of view that we're putting out there. You know, and we need

to be a little bit strategic about putting it out in a way

that might capture people's attention, but don't waste their

time saying stuff that they already know. Okay, so that's a

really interesting point. Because for me, and this is

where I'm trying to develop better right now is

it's about it's about telling stories, from your

perspective, so people get a glimpse of you, as well as it's

more interesting. You know, they say they want facts, tell

stories, sell facts, tell stories, sell,

or hard wired for stories, right? Yeah.

And and so in doing that in a better way, in

telling a story about an experience that you've had

around whatever it is that you're talking about, you're

building relationship with people without realizing it,

right? Yes,

yes. And people read those. It's funny. We're all so

busy, we don't have time to read things. But when someone is

telling a story, you slow down your scroll, and you actually

don't read it. So yeah,

I've noticed that in like my newsletter, when I do

my introduction, and, you know, I had, well, I was forced to

slow down because I sprained my ankle two weeks ago tomorrow.

And, and I said this in my newsletter, and it was amazing

how many people reached out and said, oh, sorry, speedy

recovery, do your exercises, all that stuff. So then your your,

and they were people I didn't expect. Right, right. So that's

when you think, Oh, I do have people out there that are

reading my newsletter. Thank you, you know, appreciate that.

And those are relationships that they're going on that are

building without you realizing it. Yes, yeah, I like that. I

like that a lot. You say that. It's so much easier now to reach

people and to start new connections and relationships,

but if not managed, it can steal our time. And leave us

disconnected. Tell me what you mean by that?

Well, I think that social media, it's so easy to

spend time during the scroll, you know, and not really

connecting, zoning out. And so it's easier to connect to people

like I have a friend in Florida, who I graduated high school

with. And the only way we connect is, you know, stay in

touch is through social media. But yet, when my husband and I

go to Florida to visit his parents, I drive an hour, and we

go spend a couple of hours and I visit with her. But if I didn't

have social media as a as a way to stay connected, I wouldn't. I

would never, you know, have that are awkward, right? It would be,

I just, I wouldn't reach out to her I wouldn't, you know, and so

I feel like it gives us an opportunity. And it gives us a

way in I mean, you hear all these stories of people who have

been able to connect with, you know, CEOs or you know, somebody

through responding to a post that they made on LinkedIn or

something I saw on LinkedIn that Richard Branson had posted

something about dyslexia, and somebody commented, and he

commented back, like, how many people could say that they had a

correspondence with Richard Branson. So social media gives

us all these opportunities, but you have to be on guard and put

it into you have to have rules. And you know, kind of like,

remember when you were learning to bowl as a kid and they put

the little gutters, things, the guards in the gutters to keep

you from the gutter balls, like, we need guardrails in place like

that. Otherwise, it can totally steal your attention. And have

you disconnected and you're just you're just in that zombie mode

where you're just scrolling and not really connecting.

Yeah, and and today, I suppose that's what

keeps people going 24/7 as well, you know? Yeah, it's, it can be

it can be educational, and it can be really interesting, but

it can also suck your time like you cannot yeah, there's it's

impossible

to keep up. I mean, you and I are about the same

age. You remember, you know back when you know when you and I or

joining the workforce, business owners executives. They had, you

know, a telephone, they had a day planner, and they had a

secretary who open their mail and then put stuff in their

inbox. Yeah, really the important stuff. And you

contrast that to today, where nobody's opening your mail. And

and you have these, this gateway of all of this stuff to come at

you. Yeah. And there's just absolutely no way to have enough

time to do it all. So we have to know like, what are our

priorities and say, okay, LinkedIn is the marketing, you

know, method that I'm going to use for the next year. And

that's it. And either unsubscribe or automatically

filter anything that is these other things away, so that

you're not even having it come into your awareness?

Yeah, so that's hard to do for people who are

curious people like me, right? See,

that's just it. Yeah, you are curious. And because

you're curious, and the fact that these people are so good at

grabbing your attention, if it hits your inbox, you're gonna

want to read it. Yeah. And the reality is, you don't have the

time to read it all. So you will either let who's the best person

at making headlines or writing headlines for their email to get

your attention? Or you let it be what's important to you to get

your attention? You have to decide?

Yes. And then, as I also mentioned, before we went

on air, I had, between a two hours between my interview this

morning and this interview, oh, I had one more call before this

one that I was going to run out, actually, and get some Christmas

stuff I still had to get. But my daughter texted me and said,

What are you busy? Do you need help? Or, you know, whatever. I

said, I'm actually available between 11. And one, because I

gave up that time if she needed me. And sure enough, off, you

know, my granddaughter stayed with me for an hour and a half

while she went to do what she needed to do. And then they left

because she respected that my time was needed elsewhere. But I

did drop everything. Yeah, because that was

more important. Exactly. And see, here's the

thing. Not everybody can even do that. No, I was just gonna say

that. Yeah, but the more clarity we have, and the more order that

we have, that we can do that, you know, like, I had to do a

call this morning, with my husband's cardiologist a virtual

call that I mean, I didn't know until yesterday that it was

going to be and it was easy to just put that in there. You

know, because I have enough control and enough, you know,

knowledge of what's important and waiting out and, and knowing

like, I mean, my brain gets overwhelmed just like everybody

else is, but I know, it's not reality. It's not that I have

too much to do. It's that my brain is not was not built for

modern society. And so I just have to go through these steps

to calm it down and get things into perspective. Plug, my focus

leaks up. And then everything settles down, and I can focus.

Well, sometimes I feel that by doing what I did earlier today,

I'm going to suffer for it later. Because I have to get

that piece done that I didn't get done. Right. But yeah, it is

what it is. So how do you, you know?

So how do you manage it all? Just how to Yes.

And

here's the thing, it's not about managing it. All

right, you're never going to get it all done. But one of the

things, the secrets that I think is critical is knowing what is

most important as at the end of your day, you need to be very

clear on what is the most important things that you have

to do tomorrow, and then have focused time in the morning,

that that's what you get done. First thing in the morning

before you get on your computer before you look at your phone

before you do anything. You put time into that critical time.

And then no matter what happens in your day, you're golden,

because you got those critical things done.

And they and you're referring that they might

be work related or they might not be

right. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, that's great. It's

you know, and I generally have clients have buckets of time of,

you know, focus time in the morning. That's like your Deep

Work. And then in the afternoon, it's, you know, more one client

likes to call them quick tasks, right? That it's not things that

require, like that deep focus. And then you have those a bucket

of time in the afternoon, where your mind isn't as fresh and

they don't take as long don't require the same amount of

focus, so that when you get interrupted, it doesn't really

derail something. But if you're working on something that

requires deep focus, and you're interrupted, Oh, forget it kind

of wasted that time. Yes, I agree, pulls you out. And then

you know, it takes you 15 minutes to get back in it. You

were quoting earlier?

What I recall to be Stephen Covey's seven habits

that the grid that he uses about important and urgent and

important and all of that, do you do? Is that part of what you

do and how you teach?

Yeah, I, I mean, I followed Stephen Covey back in

the day, and it's also referred to as the Eisenhower matrix,

some people right, you're right. Yeah, that way. I've never heard

that. But until Yeah, I think he, I think he took took that

and then just, you know, for his business on it. But I, I don't

actually do it that way anymore. Because I find that it's about,

you know, understanding what is important to me, right? And, and

then from there, minimizing the number of active projects that

I'm working on. And, and so that means putting stuff on the

backburner and snowing like these are coming up, because

what we tend to do is spread ourselves really thin. And we do

a little bit of this, a little bit of this, a little bit of

this a little bit of but nothing can get done, because we're

spreading our time and focus out amongst so many different

projects. And then we're overwhelmed, because we've got

too many things that we're trying to juggle all at once.

Yeah, sure, I found that if instead, instead of doing

things, you know, all at the same time trying to get things

done, if instead, you limit it to like four to seven, depending

upon the complexity, and that includes work in personal Yeah,

right, all at one time, and then you wait until you get something

done. And then you can move something over, or maybe

something in your active project, it's in a waiting

period. So then you can move it off, like you submitted a

proposal for or for a job, and you're waiting to hear back. So

now that can go into the waiting bucket. But doing that it tends

to settle things down. So in the mornings, it's usually focused

on those projects, and then all the like, the little

administrative things and that kind of thing. That's more in

the afternoon.

So let's in wrapping up, let's talk about

just give me three top things, then that one should be aware of

to be able to focus more, and get rid of those focus leaks.

Doing the stop your head from spinning, I think that

is step one. Step two, doing your morning routine such that

you have focused time in the morning. And I think that having

routines, as opposed to just all of these tasks that you can, it

can be so overwhelming to think of, you know, a million tasks

when some of them can be kind of rolled up into a routine that's

scheduled for once a week. And I think another thing is we lose a

lot of time spinning because we're procrastinating because

we're not exactly sure what to do. Like we might have an item

on our list to you know, connect with Lisa, what what does that

mean? You know, that's not actionable, but instead

something like you know, send a LinkedIn message to Lisa or, you

know, send a card to Lisa or something. Yeah, but having it

be you know, a verb that is something that you're going to

do that's very clear.

And do you make lists?

I do. I do make lists. I have to I have an idea

generator. People who have worked closely with me, then

they laugh and make fun of me because I mean, it's an idea

minute, and so I have to get them out of my head. And so that

I'm not thinking about them, but the reality is there's not

enough time or people to get them all done. And so then I

have to really be ruthless and going through them. And okay,

this just isn't realistic. This isn't on brand this, you know,

and just get rid of them. So and then I do I, I have a pad that I

have that has a list down the right hand side, and then it's

like a grid paper for notes during the day. And so I'll take

from my lists, and then say, Okay, here's what I need to get

done today, um, handwrite it out. And then I've got a place

to write notes during the day. Awesome.

I'm at the point at the end of this year now

where I have to re organize my office again, because that will

make me feel like I can have a fresh start in the year. I know,

it's just one of those things. This is delightful. I could ask

you a million questions. How can people find you? And what are

you working on that? They might be that my audience might be

interested in people like me, right? So you do this? Is it a

morning webinar? What is it that I

saw? Yeah, so I've got a workshop coming up two

dates in in January, I'm not sure when this will air, but

there's one January 5, and one January 19, that are all about

getting your setting your morning up to be able to focus.

And so we'll be dealing with the being able to not look at your

phone first thing in the morning. So we'll do some of

that processing those stored emotions that we talked about,

to make it easy to ignore your phone in the morning. And so all

the things so it's, it's an all day workshop, but it's not. It's

like we'll take breaks for you to work and get done what's

critical, so that you feel like at the end of the day, you've

had your most productive day other ever. So my website is and

j shows b.com. And there's something on the homepage to

link to that. And also, when I was talking about the first step

of being able to focus is to get your head to stop spinning. If

you go to n j shells b.com/overwhelm There is a video

that will step you through a process to be able to get your

brain to

focus. Yes. Okay, so if this doesn't Aaron time,

remind me send me something and I'll post on LinkedIn about your

workshop because it sounds like something I should probably do.

And I love the idea. So thank you so much for being here

today. I think we overstayed our welcome. I seem to be doing that

a lot lately. fascinated with my guests, but it's my show. So

there you go. I just hope that I have people listened. So there

you go. Thank you again for being here and for your

brilliance because it does make people think like me think about

what's important and what isn't. Well, thank

you for having me. As always, it's a pleasure talking

with you. You're very welcome.

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