{Guest} Understanding Burnout: Causes, Symptoms, and Prevention with Sally Clarke

Episode 124 • 8th July 2025 • Made For More • Ally Nitschke

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In this episode of the Made For More podcast, host Ally Nitschke, is joined by burnout expert and author Sally Clarke. Sally shares her remarkable journey, from her upbringing in South Australia to working as a corporate finance lawyer in Europe, and ultimately transitioning to a more meaningful life in Morocco.

The conversation dives deep into the topic of burnout, which Sally experienced firsthand during her time in a high-pressure law firm. She reflects on the pivotal moment she recognised the signs of burnout and the transformative steps she took to recover, including a life-changing move to Morocco and a reconnection with nature.

Sally offers a powerful reframe of burnout, describing it not as a personal weakness but as a natural response to chronic stress influenced by societal, organisational, and internalised cultural pressures. She highlights the importance of self-knowledge, self-awareness, and self-compassion in both preventing and recovering from burnout.

Throughout the episode, Sally and Ally explore generational shifts in attitudes towards work and wellbeing. Sally provides valuable insights for leaders seeking to build supportive and engaging workplace cultures, along with practical strategies to recognise and address burnout, both personally and within teams.

Listeners can connect with Sally via LinkedIn or through her website at www.salcla.com. For those who may be experiencing burnout, she encourages reaching out for support and taking proactive steps towards healing and balance.

This episode offers an inspiring and thought-provoking look at how individuals and organisations can better understand, prevent, and respond to burnout in today’s world of work.

00:03:26 - Corporate law career shift.

00:05:36 - Workplace burnout awareness and stigma.

00:09:21 - Burnout causes and prevention.

00:10:23 - Organizational culture and burnout.

00:14:01 - Work contributing to society.

00:19:09 - Burnout among high performers.

00:20:45 - The three selves framework.

00:25:06 - Symptoms of burnout.

00:28:00 - Burnout and self-awareness strategies.

00:30:56 - Leadership and wellbeing strategies.

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