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Lorenzo Petrucci - Performance trainer of WTA top 20 Liudmila Samsonova
Episode 2532nd April 2025 • The Functional Tennis Podcast • Fabio Molle
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In this episode, Lorenzo Petrucci, performance coach to WTA top-20 player Liudmila Samsonova, shares his journey from a tennis-playing student in Milan to working alongside some of the sport’s top talent. He reveals how success on tour is about far more than hitting balls, it’s about managing pressure, building smart routines, and knowing when (and how) to push. From insights learned under Ricardo Piatti to the importance of on-court collaboration with tennis coaches, Lorenzo gives an entire look into elite tennis's mental and physical demands.

🗣️ 3 Key Quotes:

1. “It’s not about how good you are—it’s about understanding who you have in front of you.”

2. “The best fitness coaches are the ones who understand tennis.”

3. “You must be clear. The player doesn’t allow you to be in doubt.”

5 Takeaway Points:

1. Success in tennis depends heavily on mental resilience and communication.

2. Strength and conditioning must align with on-court movements, not just gym work.

3. Understanding each player’s physical and emotional needs is key to long-term progress.

4. Female and male players require different training and recovery strategies.

5. A cohesive and collaborative support team makes all the difference.

Hope you enjoy it

Fabio


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Fabio Molle:

Welcome to the Functional Tennis Podcast.

I'm your host, Fabio Molle and I bring you insights and lessons from players, coaches, parents and experts who are ingrained in the world of high level tennis. Today's expert is Lorenzo Petrucci, the performance Coach to top 20 WTA ranked Luda Samsonova.

I met Lorenzo at the Essex Tennis Summit down in Melbourne in January, as well as his teammate, Ludus coach Danilo Pizzerno. We said let's have a small chat in the podcast later this year, so here we are.

He discussed his journey to become the performance coach, working with Luda and her team. Valuable lessons learned from renowned coach Ricardo Piatti, as well as managing pressure and workload.

Shout out to Asics for flying me down to Melbourne earlier this year where I met Lorenzo. I'm also looking forward to their collab which recently launched with lifestyle brand APC for their upcoming clay court season collection.

Okay, here's Lorenzo. Hi, Lorenzo. Welcome to the Functional Tennis Podcast. How are you?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Good, very good. Thank you, Fabio, for having me with you and your podcast and it's a pleasure to be here with you.

Fabio Molle:

It was great to only match for the first time down in Australia at the Asics event, yourself and Danilo, which were super nice. So it was great, really good to meet you. And I did talk about trying to get you on here, so I'm glad I've got you on. You're in Italy this week.

Why are you not in Miami?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

I was in Indian Wells before and we did all the preparation for Indian Wells and I stayed in the Indian Wells as well in the tournament then at the end. So Luda went very good in the tournament.

So I stayed with the team until Indian west and then they moved to Miami and then I go back to Milan because I have other work that I'm working on. I see them now for the clay preparation and then it will continue for Stuttgart and all tournament ahead.

Fabio Molle:

Nice.

So I skipped by it here, but you are the performance coach, the strength and conditioning coach for Luda Samsonova, who is currently ranked as of today 19 in the world. She's been highest 12. And you work alongside Danilo Pizzerno, who we post a lot of his videos.

He always has great videos and from speaking to him, he's about 50,000 videos. He's the original, the original video guy. And yeah, he was telling me goes down all through Italy filming players. Crazy.

But tell me, so where does your tennis journey start?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

So it's a very good question. So tennis journey start when I was young because at the young age I started to play tennis and I had the national ranking, Italy national ranking.

So I was not professional, but I was very good in. And after I started to study in university in Milan in sports, science.

And then everything start with the tennis about my internship and everything start from there. So it's a long trip, but I'm so honored to be what I'm doing right now with Danilo and the Liuda team because it's an amazing experience them.

And yeah, Danilo is an amazing person that work with. I'm growing a lot with him. And yeah, he is an amazing person to work with.

Fabio Molle:

Where in Italy are you from? Are you from beside Milan?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, I'm in Milan right now. Yeah, of course.

Fabio Molle:

Okay. You grew up there?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Fabio Molle:

Do you remember any of the players from your age group? Did he still play now?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

When I was young, of course there's one people that I also training in my future, it's Filippo, because I know him when was very young and he was very, very good at it. And one funny, funny things that when I became after a strength and conditioning coach, I trained him when at the end of. I mean now his practice.

Fabio Molle:

And was there. Was there ever decision for you to go pro or was always like I'm.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Going to university, you know, I start university and then starting to like it very much. I mean study sports, I love it. And then was tough to do everything together. So. And then I decided to proceed to study and get focus on in.

And also because during my path during the bachelor's degree I did bachelor's and then master's as well.

And during the bachelor's I had the opportunity and lucky opportunity occasion to go to Inter Football Club to learn how the football player training. And I saw the strength and conditioning coach they work with them. I speak with the coach as well. At that time I was passionate a lot.

So I decided to continue to do my masters. And during my master's I was very, very lucky to do one internship to Piatti Tennis center. And there from there everything start and all my.

I mean careers starts because there I I knew a lot of professional worker there. I want to mention one of my mentor that is Dalibor Sirola. I think that he's one of the best in my field.

He was very, very important in my path and I learned a lot from him. And now I'm very, very, very lucky about it. So yeah, everything start from there. And also Riccardo Piatti.

So I was in that team at that Time I could see all the professional players that work with them. I mean, I see Yannick Sinner, Maria Sharapova, Borna Choric, everything.

So it was like a dream for me because from after my study I went there and then after my graduation I stayed there four years. So I moved to Bordighera, changed my life and I stayed there for four years and yeah, was amazing, really.

Fabio Molle:

We did have Dalabor on the podcast before. Super, super nice guy and knowledgeable. So knowledgeable. We actually. Who's it with? Lapo Beccarini on Hulgaroons. Fitness trainer.

He worked in a football club. I remember asking him. I think he work.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, maybe something.

Fabio Molle:

Yeah, yeah. I think he still works with some footballers now. I'm not sure exactly, but he was another great strength and conditioning coach.

We've had a good few strength and conditioning coaching on over, over the years. I actually just did a podcast interview earlier and we first interviewed the guy five years ago, so I can't remember everything, but.

So you, you were at Piatti? Sinner was there. Did you. How many years ago was this? Did you start at Piatti?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

2019.

Fabio Molle:

When did Sinner leave Piatti?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

that I was there. I think in:

Fabio Molle:

n that. Sinner left Piatti in:

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah.

Fabio Molle:

Okay, so:

Lorenzo Petrucci:

I. Okay, so he really. I know him very well, so I'm lucky about it. And he was very, very different from other people.

But the very best things about him, that he was very, very a nice guy, a normal guy. Nothing focus on determinate, on the work.

And the first that arrived in the gym, the late that left the gym and every time dedicated with Dalibor and Ricardo. Amazing. Amazing. Really? Really, really.

Fabio Molle:

He was a totally different person to the other players there.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah.

I mean at that period there were a lot of professional players, the young and they were also very lucky because they could see Yannick training and how his like behavior in the gym. So. But he was very.

I mean he could do everything easy and with no pressure and in the court was like amazing to see it, how he can hit the ball, how he can move on the court and yeah, it was very funny.

Fabio Molle:

I'm sure. It's tough for other players there.

When you see this younger guy can do everything better than you and you're like, how am I ever going to beat this guy? I'm older than him. I'm sure that must be really hard.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah. And also at that time we were very lucky because Ricardo Piatti also every day he spoke with the team and he spoke about Yanning.

So we know everything, the process and we saw the process to be and to became a professional tennis player. So it's. It's tough. It's very tough. But how they make that, it seems like easy, but it's not.

Fabio Molle:

Yeah, always looks easy on the outside. We don't see the hard work. You did four years at Piatti. What happened then? Did you get an opportunity or just wanted to change things up?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, after. After that I had a big chance. So I go back to Milan because I had a chance to became a head fitness coach and so a different role.

And so I decided to move to Milan again. So I went to Buena Costa Tennis Milano. Amazing place. Also there.

Also there I had a big, big, big opportunity because there were a lot of young players, young tennis player, woman and men especially I started to work with women. When I arrived there were Bandeki Susan that she were like 150 when arrived.

So she has a good ranking and everything, everything start from there as well. And in that occasion in Milan I had two occasion also to work two weeks with Radio Pelka and for me was an amazing experience.

Also there also it was really fast because he. He was moving from Milano to la and I worked with with him two weeks and was. Was very, very, very interested.

Fabio Molle:

Also what made working with Riley interesting.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

In that period he. He was backing back in after injured and so we did some prevention, rehab, rehab exercises and.

But after the first week we try also to move on into the court. So he surprised me really because he was very, very. You. You don't think. But it was with the feet, so. And he was moving great. Also.

If you think that maybe he's a player that it's not moving too much. But he was really, really, really impressed me. So was good.

And he also has a very, very nice person with a nice culture and yeah was very, very good for me.

Fabio Molle:

Okay, so you do a few weeks with Riley, you're in Milan, who comes knocking on your door?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Why? Because he knows someone into the club and he was searching someone that helped him with the program and prevention. And so there I was.

So I was lucky to be in the right place. In the right time, but I mean, after one or two training together, he won't continue. And we did all the period together and.

Yeah, so right now when I go around the world in the tournament, I'm seeing him every time. And we remember that time.

Fabio Molle:

Nice, nice. And when did you start working with Luda?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

So I started since in:

And between him I get in contact with Liuda and everything start from there, because with Danilo, the first year that I arrived in Milan, I worked with him because he worked also in Buonacosta sometimes. And we started to collaborate together to work with my part, the physical part, in collab, in the tennis court. So it's a part of my work that I love.

And we work very, very good together, because we are in connection from my part in physics, because I'm not working just in the gym, but I work a lot also, also into the court with exercise and how to feel the body when the tennis player has to hit and how to move different situation. So we have a good connection. So. And from there Danilo, after one year, asked me if I'm ready to start this journ, this adventure together.

And yeah, and now our.

Fabio Molle:

He was telling me he worked in.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Piatti also Danilo, yes. But unfortunately, when I arrived, he finished the collaboration. So with our first touch was in Milan. Buona cosa.

Fabio Molle:

Okay. A lot of coaches have come through, you know, they've passed through Piatti a.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Lot, A lot, everyone, really.

Fabio Molle:

Just while we mentioned Ricardo, what are one or two things you learned from working with him that make him such a great, respected coach?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, he is, he is.

So one thing that I will remember forever, he said to me, don't forget the your knowledge about the court, because when I start to work, I was tennis coach, okay? And after three years I changed. So I became a strength and conditioning coach.

And he said to me, the best fitness coach is one that know a lot about tennis court tennis. So the fitness coaches also has a tennis coach. So one is this, this is one of the things that I remember.

And the other one, he teach us a lot about technical part, a lot. The method was amazing. Learn the method from Ricardo, because also with easy, easy instruction, you can change everything in the player.

And another important part, he every time asked to us to watch a lot, a lot of matches and analyze that, analyze the situation, analyze the moments of the game, the moment of the match, because if you understand the moment of the Match you can recognize when the match has a moment that you can win or not the match or you can say the balance of the match. You can change in a few shots. And he every time ask us which is the moment of this match, which is the moment of the other match.

So he's very, very nice person and he's very clear and yeah, that's good.

Fabio Molle:

No, I've heard only good things about him. So thanks for that. So, yeah, so you start working with. When you start working with Luda, what was her ranking?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

She was 12.

Fabio Molle:

Oh, she was 12. Okay.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So top 20. And right now we are the same. Now is like 19, 18. Yeah, 19. So we are always top 20.

But you know, it's the best things and a good thing is remain in the year in that balance. So keep this top 20. Ranking is very important. But our goal is our goal. So his goal is going top 20, top 10. So we see this year started well.

I hope that it's going to be there.

Fabio Molle:

She's playing well. Like she goes a bit, she goes under the radar really. Like she just wins matches, wins good. And she doesn't, you know, doesn't.

Not looking for any, you know, publicity or that. She seems to be very. Just get the job done. I'm here to a job and then she's gone. Then she's back in her job and very low key.

She seems to be from the outside, which is, which is good and probably bad for sponsorships and things like that. But in general she's there to a job. She's really good. Can she play for Italy or.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

She played for Italy until 18 years old or something like that. And then she, and then she, she, she, she played for Russia for Fed cup and yeah, we lost. She's very. Yeah, but she's very.

She's very nice, nice tennis player. She's very focused. She's determinated. She wants to work, work, work and work. No distraction.

So it's not easy because at that level you could be like many distraction around because you travel, because you're famous, because for all reason, but she's I think, very, very hard worker.

Fabio Molle:

You mentioned those qualities. What else have you learned from working with her the past couple of years?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

I learned, It's a good question. I learned how to manage, how to manage pressure.

I learned the moment that you have to speak with her because, you know, speak with the tennis player, it's tough.

I mean, you have to understand when you can say something, when you can say another things, when you have to be like determinating when you have to joke as well. So. But I understand sincerely the load of volume during the year because we have different period during the year.

So we have several preparation before the tournaments that we want to perform. So I learned how to manage the load for her. And it's not easy because when you start to work with new player that you don't know like how she works.

So you need time to understand how you can push the athlete when you have to, I mean unload and how many days you need for recovery and everything. So this is I think the hardest part when you start to work with tennis player. It's not how good you are. I mean, you can say a lot of things.

You can be the best, I mean technical and theoretic fitness coach. But the best things is understand what you have in front of you and what. And what he is. I mean what she is or he is.

Fabio Molle:

The last thing you want to do is work them hard the first week and they get injured then because you know, you know, they're not used to it or next year you're fired straight away.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, you have. You have to be. You have to put more attention. But that is because you have to be every time determinated.

The tennis player don't permit you to be like in dubs. So you have to be like clear to explain everything that we are doing in a right way.

Fabio Molle:

So they like to ask questions and you know, make. Make sure you. Why are they doing this? That's what I've noticed.

Speaking to a lot of people, the top players always like to ask why are they doing this? And once you have an answer, that's all they want.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah, you are right. You are right. Especially when the pressure income you have to be you. You have to handle. And so. And this is the important.

I think it's just important for the team. So the team has to be. We have to collaborate because everything has a part and when. Yeah, it's not easy.

But I think that one goal to succeed in this part is have a strong team around the player and to be clear with the player and handle everything and make easy what you can for the player and also travel together. It's important things.

Fabio Molle:

What is the travel team like? It's obviously yourself and Danilo. Is there anybody else on the team?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, Danilo. Then Mattia Prati is the physiotherapist with him. I really like to collaborate because my work I put focus on prevention, I put focus on the body.

I'M really, really accurate about it.

So we work together, we put some routine together, for example, so when she has the treatment, I went with them because we do some activation together, we do some tests together. So I am really fun about prevention and recovery.

Fabio Molle:

So it's yourself, Mattea and Danilo. That's the travel team. Really?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah. And also her boyfriend Alessandro, he also helps Danilo. When Danilo is not with us, he can help Liuda in Tennessee.

Fabio Molle:

That's good. It's good to have that.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah. We are a big team, but we are so cohesive. So we are good.

Fabio Molle:

And so For a top 20 player, what's the typical training day? When. How do you, how do you guys all work together?

Like, is it also pat first and a bit of work with you and then on court, let us know how a typical, you know, a heavy training day goes.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, I mean, we can, we can, we can establish two things. So before the, before the tournament is one thing. So maybe the tennis player work a bit, a lot. I mean, also in tennis court. So for example, we are.

We work a lot before the. The start of the tournament. So we do outside with me gym and outside and then in a tennis court. So morning and afternoon.

Then when we are near to the match, we do like less volume, but more quality intensity. And one thing that we like work with within the team that with Luda before the tournament, we also work inside in the tennis court.

So me and Danilo together to work on the steps, to work how to feel the load of the legs, to feel more. Feel more good. The strokes, forehand, backhand. So yeah, but each team work different. But is the best things.

Because if everyone are together, it's not funny. So. Because everyone. So for example, if I speak to. For myself when I go to the tournament, for me, it's every time an occasion to learn and to grow.

Because I can speak with the other coaches, other fitness coach, and I can see what they do. Maybe I learn some new exercise. Maybe I say I'm doing better. So we are better. Okay. Or no, I'm joking.

But it's every time a moment that you can, that you can improve. So that's. I like it very much. Travel and yeah, it's. I'm. I'm very lucky. I mean, yeah, it's, It's. It's good.

Fabio Molle:

Maybe you can tell our listeners the importance of like leg strength, having this athletic base recently on and off.

I've been doing a little bit of work with Matt Little, Andy Murray's former strength and condition Coach, he's given me a program and I'm in and out of injury so it's a bit hard for me to keep it going. But it's all like getting into this at low athletic position.

A lot of like obviously leg weights, getting the legs strong, being stable on one legs, a lot of one legged stuff where you're just like, it's balance but stability. Maybe you can elaborate and say like the importance for a junior listen today or junior's parents, the importance of having this like athletic base.

And I see Luna has a really good. She's always like has those soft knees but she's low in position and she makes it look effortly and that's her natural position.

How like how much work has to go in to get that position to be natural.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

I mean so it's an attitude. So you know tennis player every time the same stance. So it's important to understand what it comport.

I mean so you have to work very accurate on the leg. It's not just strength but it's also activate the right muscles and deactivates the muscle that bring you pain.

So it's a balance that you have to manage. But I think that right now tennis, if you work very good on the legs and on the movements is the key for the future of the sports.

Because the ball is coming fast, fast and fast every year and then maybe matches are a bit longer, the tournaments are longer because now a lot of Masters, Miller Masters, 'Thousand, sorry, became two weeks. So you have to be a physical shape and also into the core. When you play you must be economic so you don't have to put a lot of effort.

Otherwise there's no time because you just have a few seconds between one shot and another. So yeah, the legs movements and legs work is very important. But don't put all the effort in the strength, especially when you're young.

So the fitness coach has to know when it's important to put effort on the strength and how it's important to learn how the movement, base movement, the shot, shuffle and crossover technique is very important at the beginning.

And then everything that you do outside of the court and if you repeat in the time in a right sequence, automatically, automatically you put into the court. So I suggest to work outside like technique, then improve speed and improve intensity, volume and quality.

Then going to the court, work together strength and conditioning coach and tennis coach together in specific drills and then automatically without thinking, everything became clear and you see a lot of improvements. So I'm working like that with juniors when I Work, because right now I'm working also in juniors in Milan, in a lot of clubs.

When I have time, not traveling, I'm in Milan and I travel like that. And it's good.

Fabio Molle:

I've noticed that when you do look at a video of yourself, like, we're not talking about top players here, but I'm sure they can look at videos themselves.

But the average player and you look at your movement and then you get a performance coach like you to break it down, and you see all these inefficiencies because you don't know all the proper movements. So you spend a bit of time off the court working on the various different steps and movement patterns. And you're right.

That then slowly transitions to your court game.

And then you're covering balls with less steps, getting a position, recovering quickly, and you're like, it completely changes you as a player if you put in the work, like, and you haven't even looked at your strokes yet. You're just a quicker player without working on your speed. That's just one thing. That's what I'm learning. So, yeah, it's. It's definitely good.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Fabio Molle:

And tell me, Lorenzo, what's the difference between working with females and males from a coaching perspective?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Okay. You know, with a female, maybe you have to work more maybe to.

I mean, it's not psychological part, but the momentum of the momentum of the match and understand. Which is the key to understand before the player. Because I think that all the women play very good tennis.

But the difference is who is more smart in the right moment of the match. Because maybe they are more emotional, but it's normal, I think.

And that you can see also outside of the court, maybe the male into the court is like more instinct. And I think that the big difference for a strength and condition if coach about male and female, is the recovery. I think that is different.

And you have to know that there are different period that you can load and different period that you can unload. So is the manage about volume and intensity? And is the manage about the psychological part?

I mean, I'm not saying that the women are like less stronger, but. But you have to put more attention, I think.

Fabio Molle:

Yeah, there's more emotions going on.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that it's a good things, huh?

Fabio Molle:

Yeah, it's a challenge. I'm sure you're probably better at reading. You have to be read the females a bit better. You got to understand what's going on here.

You know, you might get away with It a little bit more with the males. With the women, you just got to be. Which makes you a better trainer then.

Because if you can bring that to the males, then you understand them a bit better.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, of course. And one things that I really, really love to. To. To work with female. It's not because all female. This is a strong things but can win all tournament.

I mean also if it's not top 10, top 20, they can reach the final and sometimes win maybe in the man in you cannot see this thing. So it's hard. I mean it's more hard. No, because a top 30, top 20, it's difficult that arrive in the semi final final and women could win.

Fabio Molle:

No, you always have a chance. What about Alex Ayle this week?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Wow. Wow. Amazing. Amazing.

Fabio Molle:

She beat three Grand Slam winners and. And she's a tough. She lost three sets to. Who did she lose to? She lost to Pegula in three sets.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah.

Fabio Molle:

Tight set. So how you know she was a top junior in the world. She won Junior Grand Slam and sort of, you know, it takes a few years to transition.

All of a sudden they appear like. It's pretty crazy.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, I think that. Okay, for sure. It's in a flow moment. I mean but I think that also sometimes it's amazing what she did. Amazing. Unbelievable.

But the young age helps a lot. Looks also Andreeva with. With Sabalenka in India. Well, so maybe the young age sometimes help.

Fabio Molle:

I think Andreeva was different. She's been around for like three or four years. You know, she's. She's been around on playing on the circuit.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah.

Fabio Molle:

And she's been learning and she's there. She's top 10. Like she's there, she's there. I think, I personally think the Alex one's totally different.

Like she's come from 200 in the world all of a sudden beaten these, you know, like. I don't know. Yeah, I think like to back it up normally.

Sometimes it can happen where a player beats a player in the males and females and they don't back it up, they just crumble. Next match they're just emotionally gone. But for her to back that up was really impressive. So very impressive.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah.

Fabio Molle:

I know when the players start reading them, then give them six months, then you know, the top players will know how to play them. But it's interesting.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, a lot. A lot. So. And now everyone start to watch her. Yeah. More. I mean more.

Fabio Molle:

Yeah, that's the. That's the way it goes. But just.

Just a couple more questions since you started since you switched from a coach to strengthen training conditioning coach in Piazzi, what's changed from then to now? It's not a long distance, not a long period of time. But has anything changed in your world from a strength and conditioning point of view?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

My base it's from the Dalibor method. So everything starts from there. Of course, in this year of my experience and everything I changed something. Yeah.

For example, in Piatti we didn't have the chance to work into the court with the coach. So one one one to one.

And is one thing that I add in my method and I see I'm seeing tennis and preparation a bit different like more specific because I understand that I have to put a lot of attention prevention for example in shoulder in the back. So maybe I change that things I put put very very all the day all the day training day attention of that.

What I change a big change is the interaction with the coach. So I also learned how to. How to speak with the coach, tennis coach.

Because everyone maybe thinks that speak with the tennis coach of the team is easy. But you know, sometimes like I'm young, I'm young into the team.

Maybe I'm the younger and it's not easy to change the mind or maybe propose something that the coach doesn't because maybe sometimes they are. They're older because the tennis player request experience, you know, in the most case. And so maybe is they interact that.

That they can learn a change. Yeah. Interact with the team and how to speak when speak with the player. Yeah. That.

Fabio Molle:

That sounds like you've definitely matured as your as in your role. Like, you know, they're important because I'm sure a lot of younger people will not want to, you know, spe somebody of higher authority.

They're afraid to say things to sometimes.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah.

Fabio Molle:

Which. Which happened not only in tennis. It happens in it.

It happens in a lot of things even here that where it used to be a problem in hospitals that that where let's say somebody working underneath a main surgeon would see something that could be wrong and they'd be afraid to say it to the surgeon. And then that led to major complications because they were afraid because of this authority thing. It's kind of crazy.

I know your situation is not life and death, but little things can change the course of some of these game and result which everybody's happier then. So.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah. And one thing that you have to be cautioned to speak and because the player doesn't have to know this.

This part of maybe that you talk and you decide what to do what not to do. So in front of the player, you have to be perfect. So all the problem are in the, in the back, in the car before arriving.

Fabio Molle:

So you're saying you're giving Danilo all the ideas, but he gets all the credit. That's what you're saying?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

No, no, no, no, no, no. He is really.

I think that he is one of the best tennis coach in the circuit because his knowledge is amazing and he impressive how he can find a solution for everyone. Everyone. So. And a lot of coaches consider him and ask him everything and.

Fabio Molle:

Nice. He's too nice. He's too nice. And just final question. What would you be doing if you weren't working in tennis? What would you be doing today?

Lorenzo Petrucci:

That's a good question, but I can start from here. So for example, now when I'm not with Luda, I'm not in tennis, I'm working with Junior MotoGP motorbiker. So I really like that word.

I really like that word and how they practice because it's very, very tough sports. Maybe a lot of people think that it's easy just riding Formula one or Moto, but it's not.

They're amazing athlete and I'm lucky to work with them also. So we working in online mood and I see them when I'm in Milan and yeah, that word. I like it very much.

So if I'm not working in tennis for sure I can travel with that them.

Fabio Molle:

We did have Patrick Harden, I think his name was on the podcast. He's the strength and conditioning coach or performance coach as well for Alex Albon. I had him on the podcast before.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Really interesting. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

I had a meeting last week with Andrea Ferrari that it's a strength of conditioning coach of Charles Leclerc and we had a good talk because it's similar. So the driver and tennis player are similar. I mean not in the program what they do, but I mean in the period.

Because for example, they have the same winter preparation like us. So we do from November to before, before Australia and they have the same. So the Grand Prix Formula one finish around.

They have three or four months before. Yeah, before March. Because the first Grand Grand Prix in Melbourne is in March. So we have the same period. I mean three, three months, two months.

And then during the year they have like traveling. So jet lag is the same of us and they don't have a lot of time to work. So. And yeah, we.

I find that we were in the same situation to like manage time and manage training during tournament or During Grand Prix, I mean, it's the same and.

Fabio Molle:

I know it's slightly different, but it's the same. You're both trying to stay focused for three hours or two hours. You know, you're trying.

No, tennis players get breaks and that, and the racing is different, but it's all about trying to maintain focus for an extended period of time.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Yeah, it's very. They are very, very focused. And one things. They risk their life if they're not focused. Yeah. So I really, I'm really impressed about that athlete.

And also, for example, what I, What I'm seeing with my, with my athlete, it. The MotoGP Junior MotoGP driver that they reach during the, during the race, very high heart rate bpm. So they. They arrive in amazing fc.

So the FC max is very high. Also, if they are not moving, they're just moving the hands and body just to the, to the curve and.

But they are like a sprinter when, when, when they have the race. Maybe it's the motion, maybe it's the scare about something or maybe. I don't know. But, yeah, adrenally, of course, they're amazing athletes also.

Fabio Molle:

They're fit. Well, Lorenzo, thank you very much. It was great to learn about you and I hope to see you on the road somewhere this year.

Lorenzo Petrucci:

Thank you. Fabio was a pleasure, really. And you are. Are doing an amazing job and you are like an amazing channel. Yeah, thank you very much.

Fabio Molle:

Thank you very much. Ciao, ciao.

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