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In this fun yet potent interview, Polarity and Craniosacral teacher Kim Pinckley shares some powerful medicine dreams and discusses:

• How she had two dream visitations in one day from deceased friends visiting her from the other side
• How Yoda and the Karate Kid inspired her to step on the healers' path which she has been on for over 25 years as a craniosacral and polarity practitioner, teacher and retreat leader
• How she frequently dreams of receiving guidance for her soul's mission from what she refers to as the Galactic Federation (which BTW Kim really would love to know if you have been there too!)

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About Kim Pinckley

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Kim Pinckley LMT, RPP, RPE, ICSU

Kim began her journey in the healing arts in St Petersburg, Florida where she attended The Humanities Center School of Massage Therapy in 1997. Two years after graduating with honors Kim found the modality that would not only change her life but add another dimension to her practice, Cranial Sacral Therapy. She has since studied this therapy with 3 different schools in 3 different states and has been practicing it for almost 20 years.

In 2010 Kim attended the Southwest Institute of Healing Arts where she met her passion, Polarity Therapy, which she terms, "the most comprehensive and effective modality available for healing, change and balance for your body and your life equally". While completing a 650 hour Mind Body Wellness program at SWIHA, she also studied Reiki, Nutrition and Hypnotherapy and eventually became certified to teach Polarity Therapy and Cranial Sacral Unwinding Therapies. It is also here in Phoenix where Kim was introduced to Native American Medicine Wheel Ceremony and other traditional Native teachings and healing practices which are integrated into her work, or as she calls it, "her medicine".

Kim enjoys any and every opportunity to share these teachings and modalities.  You can find her doing session work in her North Central Phoenix office, instructing in a classroom setting at the Southwest Institute of Healing Arts, and holding talking circles or retreats in any of her destination retreat locations around the world!

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So today's episode, I'm super excited to be talking to my

dear friend, Kim Pinckley.

She's a polarity teacher, colleague of mine from the Southwest

Institute of healing arts.

And she's

has training in traditional native American medicine ceremonies.

And she's also just a really incredible human being.

So.

I was excited when she told me that she had these dreams and was willing

to share them with the podcast.

So we spontaneously hopped on this interview, recorded this epic, , session.

And at the very end of it, I realized I had not hit record.

Which was really weird because I had hit record , but somehow it didn't record.

So whenever something like that happens, I always know that

there's some higher purpose to it.

There's some reason why we needed to do it twice.

I just feel like the kind of dreams, a quality to her dreams.

They were medicine dreams.

And I would define that as any kind of dream

where you're moving between realms, where you're connecting with higher

beings or beings who have passed or divine aspects of yourself.

This kind of dreams often come to bring us healing.

Clarity.

To help us know that we are on path.

They bring teachings that we couldn't otherwise receive.

And they usually have some kind of potency that other dreams don't have.

And so because of the quality of her dreams, being medicine dreams,

the fact that it didn't record the first time and that we had to reset.

And start over.

I thought that was really interesting.

So, , I kind of begin this interview with a little bit more of an

invocation to kind of honor the space.

Even though Kim and I are really good friends, we do

laugh a lot in this interview.

, the content is really quite special.

So I want to invite you as you listen, to keep in mind that your energy is

also in the space of this container.

And that has always any time we listened to someone else's

dream with consciousness.

We get to try that dream on as though it were our own.

I just invite you to tune into your body and your environment.

Noticing what comes up for you as you listen.

What resonates.

And what is the medicine from Kim's dreams?

That are really coming for you and the dream of your life as well.

Coming back into the session space with new, , intention,

, , to honor what was, and what is

and the consciousness of the space.

That we opened a doorway just by speaking to these dreams that were

about opening doorways between the worlds therefore this is sacred space.

, calling in our guides and allies to the container in a sacred way so that

it is safe and secure and in service of our highest good and the highest.

Good of all.

Hmm.

Yeah.

It feels really important actually.

Yeah.

So just to introduce you Kim, and give a little context for

the listeners around who you are and how bad-ass amazing you are.

I, , would love to invite you to just share a little tiny snippet

into your healer's journey and how you came to be this amazing polarity

teacher retreat leader book writer incredible human being that you are.

I love that question.

I get this question in the classes that I hold, like what brought you

to this work and this work being polarity and craniosacral work.

And I've been a massage therapist for 25 years as well.

, I always go back to the fact that I was a child of the eighties and there

was a moment during my childhood where I was watching the empire

strikes back and I was completely.

Fascinated by Yoda.

And in one of the scenes, Yoda was lifting , Luke Skywalker spaceship

out of a swamp without like touching it, you know, doing it energetically.

And I thought to myself that moment, I want to be able to do that.

I mean, we're talking about like a six year old or seven year old.

There was this part of me that never looked back.

Like I always one hundred thousand times percent believed that I could do that.

fast forward to a few more years down the road and the karate kid came out and Mr.

Miyagi and Daniel son, and there was that clap that Mr.

Miyagi did with his hands before he would go touch Danielson to heal him.

I actually used to chase kids around the playground when I was a kid , slapping

my hands together and trying to heal them always trying to convince people,

we could move things with our mind

And not touching them.

You know, I found myself in this work, the work that I do being

totally based on energy quantum physics the mystery the unknown

and everything from different realms.

And I've constantly been seeking knowledge, seeking

wisdom, seeking anything I could find about universal truths.

And in that same journey, it was one of self-reflection and my own healing.

And it was the best way that I found to learn this work was to do it with myself.

And I love to share it in any way I can also.

And there's, this idea that it's not just.

What we can see here with these earthen eyes and what our limited human minds

can perceive or think, but there's a bigger picture with a lot more

potential available and possibilities that we could never really imagine.

And I just love being in that.

I love it.

Mystery being in the great mystery

Yeah.

and you are so Yoda.

I so see that.

And I so see the Mr.

Miyagi in print of your.

Relationship with mentorship and how you worked really closely

with Heather Principe in the New

York chapter of the polarity teacher training

yeah.

So

She has many different circles and gatherings and medicine,

wheel journeys and ceremony.

I have done vision quest and I also just, I try and spend any time I can with her.

And she is the teacher that's really , handed the teaching

of ceremony down to me.

I love holding circles and I love being in that space where

we all get to share our truth

you have such a, great integrity around how you hold and

pass on what you've been given.

I have seen and witnessed your medicine and your potency,

. And I love hearing this, Mr.

Miyagi, karate kid, Yoda correlation it's all coming together now.

That's my story.

That's how I got here.

And I never looked back, you know, I just never wanted to, for one

second doubt that any of that stuff, that Hollywood stuff was possible.

That is the adventure of being in energy medicine is that we're,

dancing between realms all the time.

Never a dull day at work, it's a beautiful exploration.

I love it.

Absolutely.

So I know that you, came to me for this specific conversation because you had

a series of four dreams that happened over the course of two days quite

recently, within the last week, right?

Yes.

Within the last three days.

so this is fresh right now.

, So yeah, I wanted to give you

of these dreams

They started in an afternoon nap and then over the

next two evenings or two nights,

I had never experienced the amount of intensity the conversations were.

Normal conversations.

, almost as if we're in day to day life on this earth plane kind of dreams

fascinating something I had never experienced in the few of them drawn

together all in the same couple of days.

Really.

I was like, I need to call Amanda what's going on here?

A little reflection.

So here we are,

want to speak at all to the context of the

dream, starting with the ether?

I would consider any kind of dream incubation to divine information from

my dreams or connect with my dream guides as an aspect of the ether.

But it could also be anything going on in the context of your

life, around the time of the dream or anything that seems related.

absolutely.

So as I was kind of speaking to before.

I love to be in ceremony.

And really what that means for me is this place where a group of us will come

together and it is extremely authentic.

It's raw.

It is also a place where we would do in vocation for a safe container

to allow our ancestors or our guides or spirits to come and journey with

us for whatever amount of time,

by opening ceremony, something usually shifts.

It always shifts.

You can expect the unexpected at times.

And whenever I go to ceremony, whenever I'm holding ceremony I'm

very aware that my dreams become really vivid, intense, interesting.

I feel like they're more dimensional.

, , maybe working things out on more than one plane we'll say.

And so just held a retreat before these dreams happened and which was very

ceremonial, including a labyrinth, which had an extreme, energetic component of

the labyrinth was something new and bigger than I probably had worked with before.

And I feel like these dreams started just as I was landing,

like really getting here.

back to my grounded

self but still had that magic, that portal, that opening

That's my thought around it.

So the first dream was during a nap and I'm not a big napper and this day

I needed a nap was still coming out of ceremony and woke up from this nap.

And I can say that what I remember in those moments where , confusion of wait

a minute, I know that just happened and I'm not sure how it could have happened.

And it took me minutes to really convince myself that was a dream.

And so the dream was that I had a friend, very close friend of mine pass away over

20 years ago, . And after his passing, he would come to me in dream time.

Other places I would feel his presence in my life as well.

And then slowly but surely that kind of fell off and he hasn't

entered my dreams in many years.

The dream actually started with me on a phone call talking to a relative

who was trying to Tell me that she was disappointed with this energetic

work that I do, and that it was SAC religious and that I shouldn't

be playing with this energy stuff.

So that's how the dream actually started.

And as I'm on the phone with her, my friend who had passed away,

walked in through my house and I saw him, , I had a knowing, oh Yeah.

We were mistaken.

He hadn't actually passed away.

He's just been missing all this time.

And when I saw him, I was so excited that that was true, that

this misunderstanding was true.

And I went and they gave him this big hug and cried happy joyful and so excited.

I remember at some point while I was hugging him and crying I told myself,

feel his body make sure he's real.

, make sure you're not dreaming.

And I felt his body.

And I was like, wow, this is, this is real.

The next thing you know, I remembered, I had been on the phone call and

I decided to hang up with her and I was going to go and spend some

time with my friend who came back.

So I went and found the phone, hung up with her.

When I went to friend, it was like, I walked into a hotel room that had been

occupied, but the person had checked out.

You could tell somebody had been there, but now they're not there any longer.

They were gone.

The bed was used, but there was no toothbrush or no

suitcase, everything was gone.

And you could just feel that, oh, gone.

When I woke up.

It took me a few minutes to really convince myself that you felt him.

No, he's not here, but you felt him.

And you really convinced myself that it, you know, that was a dream.

So I'll just reflect what I heard here this friend of

yours they passed 20 years ago

Correct.

and you used to dream of them, but you haven't

in all this in a long time.

Initially in the dream, you're on the phone with a relative, who's kind

of shaming you for doing this work.

That's sort of sacreligious this energy

work that you do.

And in the midst of that, you said your friend walks in

Yeah.

Really interesting.

Part of the dream when I think about being on the phone in a dream, I think

like we're speaking to somebody who's not in this plane with us.

And so that's interesting communication across the phone line.

Hmm.

And then you just dropped the phone, you're like whatever with them

and that even getting to keep listening to this or having this conversation because,

oh my gosh, my friend is here and you're like overwhelmed with emotion and joy.

And they're , so real to you.

And you're even in the dream are going, this can't be a

dream because it's so real.

And then you remember this phone conversation and that's when you

leave your friend to go hang up the phone.

And then when you come back, your friend is no longer there.

They've checked out.

Yes.

And there was something about that word checked out.

That caught me a little bit.

Like when you check out of a hotel,

Yeah.

they had checked out.

I don't know.

There was something about that.

Yeah.

And of course, hotel is a temporary space, a space where you visit,

then you're passing through, like they had been coming to stay there for a

temporary amount of time and moved on.

So this is just kind of fascinating to well, let me just

say . The first job I ever had at like age 15, I was housekeeping at a hotel.

And in the hotel where I worked, I met another friend who was just like

a brother to me, and same kind of connection and I just want to say?

so fascinating to me that next week I will be going to New York to visit

this friend is terminal with cancer.

Just in like really it's fascinating to me the whole hotel piece, that

transition piece, the brother , the friendship . It's so, Wow.

Wow.

That is a whole other layer of the

Yeah.

I'm feeling full body goosebumps

and this, this evolution of the story, right?

So you're going to go to the hotel.

So yeah, that had been on my list of things.

I'm like, oh, let's go check out where he used to work, whatever.

So, yeah.

And then there's the metaphor of the hotel and you know, our life, like

we're only ever traveling through here

Yeah.

and staying temporarily, all of us are terminal, know?

Yes.

True,

But yet your friend who you're going to visit is more

imminently in touch with that,

correct.

Different.

Yeah.

A little different, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really powerful.

I went to sleep that evening.

and the next day woke up and remembered a dream where I was in the house of an

elder that I used to work with . Through the same time period 20 years ago as

my friend and they were family friends.

And so there's a connection there, but I was in his house when I

used to visit , he had shelves and shelves and shelves of books in his

office, especially, and we were in his office and I happened to notice that

there were no more books on a shelf

and we had this back and forth conversation that was, , kind of

superficial, but exactly how it would have like just a normal conversation.

Well, how's your wife and this and that.

And it was just like, as if we were visiting each other, like I was

visiting him and I haven't talked to him in probably 10 or 15 years.

When I woke up, it was another one of these spaces where I was like,

whoa, that was super interesting.

This conversation was normal.

He looked like his normal self.

I could smell, he smoked a pipe, I could smell the pipe.

And I immediately texted somebody from that family and asked if he was still

alive and it ends up, he had passed away a month ago it kind of just blew me

away again, being in contact with the other side in such a way that felt so.

This side.

I had kind of been sitting with that like, what is this for me?

what's going on?

You know, I even had thoughts of like, oh, the veils kind of thin right now.

Should I even leave the house?

Should I just stay home and stay safe?

You know?

Totally.

Wow.

Yeah.

So

about the books,

What does that mean to you?

What a, his books represent to you?

Immediately it's just wisdom.

And he was very, very well-read from so many genres and he

was extremely spiritual guy.

, . That's what I think about the books then being gone again, it kind

of feels the same as the hotel.

Like these books were his life, you know, and the hotel room or

whatever, it's empty, they're gone.

The books are gone.

Like, you know, he wouldn't be there.

There were no books,

Yeah, I did just get a whole wave of goosebumps there with that one.

I'm good for the goosebumps.

I guess you are.

That's not always how synchronicity speaks to me, but it's so physical,

my reaction to your stories, it feels really true in my body.

When you say that.

The temporariness of the physical inhabitation of time and place,

. And the books being representative of.

Your connection with him, how you see him, how you saw himself, how he

communicated gathered and shared wisdom.

Yeah,

being a big part of who he was in this physical world, the

books were gone and you didn't even know that he wasn't embodied anymore.

I didn't

Right.

fascinating when I found that I was like, oh

Yeah And just

a know, right.

the me, that month time is still a little bit liminal, being

in contact with him in that kind of way.

That would make more sense to me than my friend who passed 20 years ago.

You know, that he's a little closer to here, but anyway,

just saying it's interesting.

it's interesting that those two were, were related.

They were family, friends, and they were from an era of your life you were

close to both of them at the same time.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah,

And that sounds like it might've been a really formative time for you.

That would be true very much.

So.

Yeah.

I'm curious about that piece.

You know, sometimes when, , people share a dream or when I myself have dreams

that have a, time marker for a certain time in my life part of my history,

, what piece of my soul, perhaps even is communicating with me from that time.

What were you seeking then or what was happening for you then that to now.

So the third dream, the third dream I was standing outside.

And I remember looking up into the sky and seeing this flock of birds, and I

believe that there were four of them.

As I was watching, they started doing some type of dance of

transformation into an object that.

Is unidentifiable to me.

I have never seen this type of object.

It looked quite mechanical.

Like it looked like they went from birds to machinery almost.

It was quite fascinating, like this transformation into something

that I've never seen before.

And in that moment, there was definitely awe, wow, what is that?

What is going on?

And then it started moving at a very quick rate, very fast

towards earth, towards the ground.

And then it began to feel ominous And scary.

Like it was about to overtake wherever it landed, whatever it was in its path.

And I woke up before it hit.

And how did you feel when you first woke up?

It felt other worldly.

It felt like what I just saw exists somewhere else.

And it's just new to me in this moment.

Like I saw something I've never seen before, but it doesn't mean.

Doesn't exist.

Right.

when you say that, what I think of is like you are witnessing something

outside of your known reality, but that exists in some other reality

Absolutely.

And it started as something somewhat recognizable of this

reality in that it started with birds

yeah,

and then the birds melded into one.

And when they joined into one creature, they transformed into something that

seemed almost mechanical, but it was

completely unidentifiable

to you.

that's right.

I do think of UFO's.

I'll just say it.

I was definitely afraid as it started flying towards the earth.

And in my mind, , I was afraid that this was about to harm me.

You know, I woke up in that kind of fear, but I was also like, what, what,

like what, so I would say that would be my sense of that, of that, but again,

just what really speaks to me is the shape-shifting and , another reality.

The common thread there between the three dreams, it feels like there

is a sense of walking between realms, I'm visiting with people who have passed

And then being in this situation where you're viewing something that isn't

of this realm either.

Even when you were with the people who had passed, there was such a

physical realness to both of those dreams.

You could smell them, feel them had an awareness that you've thought you

weren't even dreaming in the dream.

Yes.

And even with the, the beginning of this whole sequence, starting with

the phone call, that's fascinating to me again, I just think something's

coming through being transmitted,

Yeah.

And there's some opening between the realms.

So that's just really interesting.

I know that the first time you told me this dream, I had a really strong

sense of when you were in ceremony that you had combined some different.

Non traditional elements with some traditional elements, correct.

Correct?

And there was some aspect of that ceremony you did with

flags and with the four directions.

Yes.

When you told the dream, I saw the four directions

has the birds and the melding of

different traditions into something

new non-traditional, non recognizable.

And the fear that you had, you went

into a very deep around

that, especially with your teacher, Heather, who,

who we were mentioning earlier,

Yeah.

You misinterpreted her text and thought, oh my gosh, what did I do?

Right.

Yeah.

Which was scary.

It was like that.

, like the world was about to end.

My world was about to end.

It felt that way for a very, you know, good moment.

Let me tell you.

That still feels relevant to me that you, brought together

some traditional with non-traditional things, created something new

that had great power to it.

that power was scary.

It was like, is it going in the direction that you want it to, or is it just

plummeting to earth in a destructive way?

And it's about to destroy you.

Yes, yes, That's I love the way you said that, I kind of

hung on every word of your sentence.

Cause you.

said that last intense and I'm like, oh my God.

Yeah.

When you say that back to me, what I for myself is, definitely the piece

about power I can't help it, but this was part of my process too, when I.

through that process.

You're speaking about like, oh my God, I did something wrong.

But part of my process was idea of how our world is changing right now and how in my

humble opinion, there probably needs to be a collective that comes together soon.

We need to find some ways to bridge some gaps.

How can we have more unity?

How can we have more compassion and respect for each other?

And when I think about what I did with my colleague on this retreat, by combining

these medicines for me, I think about how that could totally foster more unity,

foster, more community, you know, and.

The power that comes from that.

And, you know, who's to say that at some point a million years ago, these

two medicines not life together.

I think about it through all the different realms.

There are so many different possibilities and realities and parallel universes,

or however you want to look at it that I think that it might be the , perfect

medicine for the time to try and find a way to be with each other's ways in

a health building manner, you know?

So when you give that thing back to me about the power of that, I can

see the polarity of it, a lot of power or it could feel like a lot of

destruction depending on where you're looking at it on the continuum.

And I totally honored both sides, a hundred million percent.

But you really took me somewhere in that piece

Yeah.

just, you know, honoring the, is it going to

take for us to move through this, this space and time right now?

And nobody knows.

So don't tell the man who is doing it.

I can't be done, you know?

I love that.

Yes, totally.

And maybe what it looks like is something completely alien and

unidentifiable , like other worldly, even though it's made of things of here

Yeah.

and that there is nothing new, right?

All energy is

Moving through different forms.

Everything exists in some form or another in some way or another, in

some parallel reality or another.

yeah.

yeah.

How do we direct and harness that power in a good way is really the question.

And I like that you opened that up for the collective.

How do we, as a collective honor, the medicines of traditions and of past, and

be in integrity with the old ways that they have been passed down or passed down

to us through our teachers, but how do we meet the moment of the new and allow

things to become what they're becoming in this unidentifiable form without blowing

ourselves up?

Aho!

How do we

do that?

yes, please.

I think the question is more important to hold space for than anything.

So I'll just leave it at that,

Yeah.

I'm super grateful that you brought that in.

And I also, again, I want to honor that.

Because of the nature of our dreams being multi-dimensional and interdimensional,

these dreams that you're bringing today they could have multiple meanings.

much as that symbology relates and feels alive in the moment there's

other possibilities simultaneously for, for how that dream could be bringing

some more insight might come to you

Yeah.

around it.

I

I love the progression of these dreams too.

I remember now what the fourth one is, but I'll go ahead and invite you to share it.

This was just an interesting one that happened the

same night as the previous one.

I was attending a teaching that was being given by a guru and it.

was a female, this guru.

And before she really got into the teachings, she was on a stage

and she walked off the stage and like beelined right towards me

and said, Kim, and uh, Yeah,

Hi is what I said.

Hi.

And she said, how are your children?

And when she said it, it was this question to me, not like a nicety,

, there was an urgency for me to go find out, oh my God, how are my children?

And I have three children.

As I woke from that dream, right.

after that, , I was definitely, wow, okay.

I need to check in on the kids.

When I kind of heard from all of them, that everybody was okay, there

was a little bit of a, , okay, well, what the heck anyway, what was that?

Like?

It was so intense.

The energy of that for me was that Aries energy.

Like, like when she came to find me, it was like, boom.

And she found me in a crowd and she named me and she was very direct with me.

How are the children?

And so.

It reminded me after I knew my own children were okay.

That in dream time, occasionally attend the intergalactic Federation meetings.

And as I attend these meetings, typically speaking, I feel that , I

get my orders, if you will.

Like, I get my job description.

I get, okay, what's next?

For the collective, like for what is even more than just the earth

and collective, but for, you know, the spiritual collective,

the

evolution of consciousness.

I know , you had a little concern that that would come

across as sounding kind of Cray Cray, my inner galactic Federation

meetings in the dream realm.

And I wanted to reassure you that you're not the only one.

And now, , that we've recorded this on the podcast, I'm sure that

I'll get a flood of emails of other people saying, oh my God, me too.

Secretly Amanda, I was like, please, if you get

any kind of response around that,

Hmm.

you tell me that we both know we're not crazy.

Let's officially put out the invitation, feel free, reach out.

My, email

is in the shownotes.

So you can

just reach on out.

Let me know you've been at the meetings and , we, we

can all reassure one another.

that is in fact actually more than, than acceptable.

Yes,

And so, so when you bring up this dream about this female guru that comes

out of the crowd, beelines for you, names, you and asks you, how are the children

There is an element to this dream that reminds you of this sort of soul soul

level job description that you have.

Yes.

The last time I went to a meeting that happens in dream time.

I remember waking up and the last words I was hearing as I woke up

where pay attention to ushering in the new ones, the new children.

And , in that week I was introduced to four.

Women with children like pregnant through my work, one is a teacher and

the other as a practitioner, as well as a few, like two specific children

came into my field in a, if you say like a, a therapeutic or a grandmother

energy holding space for them,

Yeah,

it was fascinating.

To have such a marked experience after my galactic Federation meeting,

you know, and it was a validation in and of itself and it also kind of

blows me away, the bigness of it all.

And just honoring, as I've told you these dreams, I'm really

just hearing , the capacity

of being indifferent times, even, or defying that or the

portals or , the universal energy.

Like, there's a thing for me about how we think about miracles on our planet.

, like the miracles that we think about that happened here is a blink

of the eye to universal energy.

And just what it takes for like creation and for bodies to exist and to

function and everything of that nature to think that there isn't something.

, Many millions of things, bigger and more possible and available and so

these dreams really, I feel like they've busted open the door for me a little

bit, like having talked to you, now in this way and heard your reflection

and being able to speak these pieces.

I go full circle to, Yoda and to Daniel, you know?

yeah, . really beautiful holding the mystery again of

this, I love , that all of these dreams came, sort of on the wings

of this, retreat that you offered, where you, are that role of teacher

and of holding open the realms.

Right.

Yeah,

And that's a really big responsibility.

And then this more responsibility to.

The beings that are coming in and coming into your field and coming

into body and these beings that are going out of body and leaving, you

know, from this realm to the next and that, I just really feel you in all

of these different scenarios, meeting it with an openness and a willingness.

And that to me is really beautiful.

I just want to honor you for that.

I really love your reflection there, and I

appreciate your words for sure.

And it's, you know, for me personally, I just, I don't know what it would be

like to have to do it any other way.

, I'm actually super grateful for all of that, that you just

spoke to and for the mystery

Yeah.

I know it's not a coincidence that we got a chance to find

all this, to be able to be with it, to have a life full of it, to be engaged

with a defined community around it.

Like, I can't wait to meet all the other people that go to the galactic Federation.

I would really love that.

But now I like in all seriousness, . I have such reverence for these teachings

that we have been given throughout our journey in these healing arts.

I hold them so sacred , and I just have so much hope that the world

will open to these even more and more and more and more and more.

Well, and it's funny too, now I'm getting full body goosebumps again,

because I'm returning full circle again, to the very first thing that happened

in the first dream, which was you got that phone call from a relative saying

whole energy thing you're doing is

like, so sacreligious

and

it was.

It's a funny thing.

I remember in the dream, I'm going to let her just talk her peace

and then I'll speak my thing.

And I doubt I'll be heard, but you know, I'm going to speak science to

her and then boom, no need got to go.

, my deceased friend is arrived.

And I can smell them and feel them and knowing for sure

that it's not a dream that I'm

Yep.

with them.

I just wanted to bring it back to that because I feel like, that ties

it all up with a bow or something.

Like, maybe there is that message that tries to come through the phone lines.

You know, maybe there are those thoughts , that being, somebody who can open up

the realms and open these portals for yourself and others, whether you want

to, or not, you are doing that, you know?

Even when we don't want to, we still do.

And we can direct that energy intentionally and learn how to

wield that power and how to be in a good relationship with it.

Or we can let it destroy us right.

By ignoring it or not participating or not doing what we came here on mission

into these bodies to do, because clearly we have missions and we all do everybody,

but especially when you're conscious of it and you're doing the work that

you're doing, you know, like that's a really beautiful, powerful thing.

And there might always be those phone calls through the ethers.

Like, what are you doing?

What do you think you're doing there?

Are you sure?

You're okay.

I don't know.

There definitely will be those phone calls, but no, I love it.

I love what you're saying.

You're so right.

, It feels Right.

to me, everything you're saying, and it definitely, in some ways , , just going

back to opening up the portals and all of that and whether you want to or not.

I love the challenge that you kind of just opened this up as not a burden to me.

Not that I felt it that way, but the burden aspect would come when

I would feel not good enough.

You know what I get that sense of, like, I don't know what I'm doing.

Then it feels like a burden, but really for me, when you set all that, , I felt

it more as like, A very healthy challenge.

That there's something that you can meet and it's something you're being asked to

meet, and there's, no judgment around it and it would be boring if you didn't

have something to meet in your life.

And I'm

grateful that this is mine.

Absolutely.

Me too.

I'm so grateful.

So grateful for you meeting the challenges that come thank you so much, Kim, for

not only sharing your dreams in this way.

So profoundly and vulnerably and powerfully letting us in

to participate in the dream.

, But also for sharing them twice, once with the ethers and once with all of us.

It was an honor and I am so grateful for it as well.

This time has been special.

Thank you so much for holding it.

If there's anything that you want to speak to for completion, anything you

want to say for yourself or for the space?

So I'm trying to find my right words around it, I think

we just spoke about this whole big piece that could feel unattainable

or out of reach for people like, to some degree I'm talking about , the

galactic Federation or lifting a spaceship out of the swamp or whatever.

I just want to say that know, that you can defy the laws of physics if you want

to there's something about saying, you know, this is available to everybody

opening gates, opening portals, being with energy, harnessing it in the

way that serves the collective, all of that is available to everybody.

And , I just hope that anything I shared opens doors period

just opens doors for anyone.

Yeah, that's beautiful.

Thank you so much.

I had a real strong sense when you were speaking that, into words is

a part of that soul mission kind of I've come to earth to say you can

lift spaceships out of the mud and do impossible things with energy.

You can do it, feel the force.

The only reason why I have not done that yet lift that

spaceship out of a swamp is cause I have not found a spaceship in the swamp.

You're probably lifting so many spaceships out of swamps.

You didn't even realize you were doing it.

You're like, oh, that's just what I do everyday.

When I go to work.

Yeah.

This have to be defined it's frequency, right?

Um, Yeah.

Thank you for being with me this way.

I'm going to close the space, close the container.

Yeah.

the portal.

We closed the portal.

So thinking our guides and our allies and all of the collective energies

that have gathered around us from the ethers that are here to support us on our

journey and to take this work and these words out, let it ripple out benefit

all beings on all planes, everywhere for

the highest

good of all.

may it be.

So.

Thank

you.

I love you.

And thank

you.

I love you, Kim.

Thank you for being with me today for most of the day.

It's my honor.

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