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S4E08 - "Juliet Doesn't Live Here Anymore"
Episode 8 • 27th October 2025 • Non Judging Breakfast Pod • Mithril Chain Network
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In this episode of The Non-Judging Breakfast Pod, hosts Leif and Steve dive into Gossip Girl, Season 4, Episode 8, 'Juliet Doesn't Live Here Anymore.' Leif, a Gossip Girl veteran, and Steve, a rookie, discuss the drama, relationships, and fashion of the episode, including the fallout from the Norman Buckley interview. They address the episode's storyline, where the Non-Judging Breakfast Club (NJBC) teams up to take down Juliet, discuss Serena's relationship dilemmas, and explore Blair and Chuck's ongoing dynamic. The episode ends with speculations for the next episode, featuring teasers about future episodes, fan reactions, and character analyses.

00:00 Welcome to the Non-Judging Breakfast Pod

02:13 Season 4 Episode 8: Juliet Doesn't Live Here Anymore

02:55 Recap and Analysis of Past Episodes

06:17 Act One: Morning Upper Eastsiders

15:23 Act Two: Serena's Relationship Dilemma

23:37 Act Three: Blair and Chuck's Struggle

31:01 Act Four: The Ballet and Confrontations

33:02 Juliet's Secret Revealed

33:19 Serena's Love Triangle

33:44 Vanessa's Jealousy Unveiled

34:15 The Non-Judging Breakfast Club's Loyalty

34:39 Vanessa's Misguided Vendetta

37:14 Juliet's Downfall

40:13 Serena's Breakup and New Pursuit

42:11 Dan, Nate, and Serena's Complicated Triangle

43:28 Blair and Chuck's Complicated Relationship

44:38 Juliet's New Alliance

45:46 Gossip Girl's Final Monologue

46:22 Upcoming Drama and Predictions

51:04 Fan Reactions and Episode Grades

55:26 Stockwatch and Best Outfits

59:37 Closing Remarks and Plugs

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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

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Leif:

Vanessa Juliet and Jenny's ship name should be vi jj.

Steve:

That's good.

Steve:

That is actually really, really clever.

Leif:

Hey, Upper Eastsiders and all.

Leif:

You skin A loving listeners out there.

Leif:

You just tuned into the Non-Judging Breakfast pod where the coffee is

Leif:

strong, the waffles are fresh and the gossip is hotter than ever.

Leif:

My name is Leif and I'm your seasoned gossip girl veteran.

Steve:

And I'm Steve, the newbie, the rookie, the greenhorn,

Steve:

the, I don't know, Leif.

Steve:

What am I now that we're in season four?

Leif:

KGUB.

Leif:

Can't get me to talk, Steve.

Leif:

You have no chance,

Steve:

man.

Steve:

Well, I guess my hopes for sexual uh, exposure therapy is going

Steve:

to just be out the window then.

Steve:

So here's the deal folks.

Steve:

Leif has been watching Gossip Girl since it first aired, and

Steve:

I'm diving in for the first time.

Steve:

And together we're your dynamic duo, bringing you all the drama, romance,

Steve:

and sometimes questionable fashion choices of this iconic 2007 series.

Leif:

Bring your magnifying glasses because each week we're dissecting

Leif:

every juicy detail of the show.

Leif:

One episode at a time.

Leif:

We'll connect the dots, uncover those sneaky little Easter eggs,

Leif:

and of course, serve up some piping hot behind the scenes tee.

Leif:

And expect some iconic moments from Phantom too, because what's a

Leif:

deep dive without a little drama?

Steve:

And since we are all about inclusivity here at the Non-Judging

Steve:

Breakfast Pod, there is always a seat for you at the non-judging breakfast table.

Steve:

So go ahead and grab your mimosa, a cup of coffee or spark up some of Chuck's

Steve:

medicine and let's get into this.

Leif:

Yes.

Leif:

Let's get into, it.

Leif:

Seems like we have been getting a pickup and, uh, new listeners, I assume that's

Leif:

from the Norman Buckley interview.

Steve:

Welcome.

Steve:

We are, yes.

Leif:

And, and I also shout out to Mal looking back and commenting

Leif:

on a bunch of old episodes.

Steve:

Fantastic.

Steve:

We really appreciate the engagement and thank you for, uh, for

Steve:

getting into the show with us.

Steve:

We really love it.

Steve:

Thank you very much.

Leif:

And we are here to talk about season four, episode eight.

Leif:

Juliet doesn't live here anymore, and the original air date was November 8th, 2010.

Steve:

Now the title here, it doesn't sound, I, I'm not

Steve:

familiar with a movie of this ti

Leif:

Is it a mo is it a movie?

Leif:

Yes, it is the 1974 Martin Scorsese film.

Leif:

Alice doesn't live here anymore.

Leif:

Okay.

Steve:

Once you said it, I, I recognize the name.

Steve:

I was wondering if it was a play on The Shining at first.

Steve:

The Toby doesn't live here anymore, or Toby.

Steve:

Is Toby the little boy that lives in his mouth or is Toby the kid not here anymore?

Steve:

Mrs.

Leif:

Torrens, this episode was written by G Annenberg or Jean Lighten.

Leif:

Uh, she ly wrote three 18 of the Unplayable Lightness of Being and

Leif:

also the Chasing ROA web series.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

I don't feel like I loved Unplayable Lightness,

Steve:

but I'm trying to remember.

Steve:

That was uh, DER's wedding episode.

Steve:

Oh, oh yeah, we did like that.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Okay.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah, that was a good one.

Leif:

And this was directed by Patrick R.

Leif:

Norris?

Leif:

Um, yeah, he was the Norman Buckley before Norman Buckley.

Leif:

Oh, okay.

Leif:

So he's been doing this back for like Dawson Scre, my so-called Life years.

Leif:

Oh, wow.

Leif:

Okay.

Leif:

So far this show he has done 1 0 4, bad news, Blair one 10, high

Leif:

Society 2 0 5, the Serena also Rises.

Leif:

It's a wonderful lie.

Leif:

And then also 2 22 Southern gentlemen prefer blondes.

Leif:

And this is another guy like last week who didn't see anything in season three.

Steve:

Right.

Steve:

Well, we did have that sort of shakeup in, was it season three when

Steve:

they kind had a bit of a shakeup that it seemed in the writer's room.

Leif:

Well, there's a couple people at the end of season three

Leif:

that had their last episodes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

They didn't come back.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

I It looks like they went back to some earlier people.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And there, this is also one of those, some of these episodes are great.

Steve:

Some of them, it was High Society, the, the Debutante Ball.

Steve:

The first one.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

With Serena and the first CC episode.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

So like, good episode there.

Steve:

Bad News.

Steve:

Blair was a good episode.

Steve:

Bad News Blair was a good episode.

Steve:

But then you have Southern Gentlemen prefer blondes, which I was never,

Steve:

I was never a fan of the Gabriel.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Storyline.

Steve:

Why don't you read that Vulture

Leif:

Recap?

Steve:

Only once or twice a season do we get to see our team

Steve:

united in the face of an enemy.

Steve:

Usually the cornered foe is hardly a force to be reckoned with a slutty teacher,

Steve:

a skanky, duchess, or a closeted bully.

Steve:

But in the case of Juliet, our gang is dealing with someone

Steve:

they've never fought before.

Steve:

A character who has lasted more than four episodes.

Steve:

Even if her inept efforts to take down Serena have failed over and over.

Steve:

Her very staying power is remarkable.

Steve:

She just keeps showing up for class.

Steve:

In the end, we see her clattering away from Lincoln Center, banished from

Steve:

the site and exiled from Columbia.

Steve:

But will that be enough?

Steve:

Has the team finally encountered something?

Steve:

They truly don't know how to fight poverty?

Steve:

No.

Steve:

Chuck fights poverty.

Steve:

He gives away $5 million to be a good person.

Steve:

You think he still did that after Eva left?

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I was wondering that like he creates the whole foundation then it's like, oh, well

Leif:

eh, I'm just gonna be an asshole still.

Leif:

Yeah, I

Steve:

guess not.

Steve:

Or did, or did he like do that now?

Steve:

She's running a foundation that she wants no part of.

Steve:

She's stuck.

Steve:

Like with this $5 million charity,

Leif:

uh,

Leif:

we go into Act One

Leif:

Morning Upper Eastsiders.

Leif:

Hope you had a good night's sleep, or at least a good night's play.

Leif:

Blair is lying in bed letting out cues of pleasure when Serena barges into her room.

Leif:

Serena desperately needs her friend's advice, but Blair continues to refuse

Leif:

to talk about Serena's inappropriate student teacher relationship.

Leif:

When Serena leaves, it's revealed that Chuck was hiding under Blair's duvet.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

And you see her smack at him at one point too, so you, you kind of know he's there.

Steve:

Uh, it it's cute though.

Steve:

Uh, you know, I was over the Serena thing last week with this professor and for

Steve:

her to still just be whining about this for, uh, I guess it's kind of that three

Steve:

episode arc that we always come back to, that we have to have three episodes of

Steve:

her not being able to be with this guy and man, oh my God, the end of this.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

God, I can't stand her.

Leif:

Vanessa and Dan are at the loft.

Leif:

Dan invites her to family brunch, but v is still avoiding Serena after the debacle

Leif:

at Hamilton House, Dan Bemoans that Nate still isn't talking to him either.

Steve:

You kinda screwed Nate over.

Steve:

I I, and I felt like Dan was sort of accepting of it too, that

Steve:

I feel like Dan sort of had an attitude of, yeah, I fucked up.

Steve:

Or at least like he has a reason to be.

Steve:

Vanessa is throughout this episode, hanging on this thing of, I did

Steve:

nothing wrong, but you stole the fucking phone in the first place,

Steve:

Vanessa, you did something wrong and you set all of this in motion.

Steve:

So,

Leif:

and even if you were wronged, it wasn't by Serena.

Leif:

Yeah, it was by Juliet.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Juliet is the one that screwed you over.

Steve:

And, and, and like, and, and after that, everything else in this

Steve:

episode, Vanessa, is jealousy.

Steve:

Yeah, it is jealousy of Serena and you are terrible.

Leif:

Juliet nearly gets busted by Colin extracting the SD card from

Leif:

the hitting camera in his apartment.

Leif:

She plays it off and they continue the conversation about Ben from last week.

Leif:

Colin reaffirms that if Julia doesn't stop seeing Ben, she

Leif:

will be completely cut off.

Steve:

It seems at this point, like Juliet might be listening to him.

:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

And it's funny because this is also another one of those guest stars.

Steve:

Colin reminds me of Ava in.

Steve:

I'm waiting for them to be super shitty and I'm waiting for them to be a part

Steve:

of this whole thing and I'm waiting for them to be part of taking down Serena.

Steve:

And more and more it's just not coincidence.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

At at the end of the day.

Leif:

I'm not really that mad at Colin.

Leif:

No, no.

Leif:

He's a little sleazy, but he's open about it.

Leif:

And Serena is an adult.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

It's not like they, he's not trying to marry her and control her.

Leif:

He just wants to be, just wants to bang.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And, and, and, and even beyond that, he wants a relationship with her.

Steve:

Like he wants to bang Yeah.

Leif:

He's

Steve:

willing

Leif:

to,

Steve:

you know, go against

Leif:

his normal, you know, to, to get there.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Like, he's like, okay, we put it on pause.

Steve:

Oh, you want to go away for the weekend?

Steve:

You don't want go away for the weekend.

Steve:

Cool.

Steve:

Whatever.

:

Yeah.

Steve:

Like, we'll, we'll take this at your pace, which I'm completely

Steve:

skived out by all of the flirting.

Steve:

I'm completely skived out by a professor.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Guest lecturer, but a professor, having that relationship with a student.

Steve:

I also, like you said, he's not hiding anything.

Leif:

And, and I, you really gotta take a look at Columbia for this whole thing.

Leif:

Why would you hire a guy?

Leif:

Who's being, you know, nominated for the Bachelor of the Year,

Leif:

known for dating young models.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Leif:

To come just teach a class.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

You're just asking for trouble.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

But he's so handsome.

Leif:

He is handsome.

Leif:

Dan and Rufuss are at the Vander Wi Penthouse, having a lonely family

Leif:

breakfast, just the two of them.

Leif:

Dan is fishing for info on Serena's new bow, but Rufuss as his tradition

Leif:

is totally clueless and so suggest Dan just asked her directly,

Steve:

I felt like Rufuss was so down in this scene.

Steve:

Like he just seemed so like, and, and you know, Dan being like,

Steve:

oh, I thought people, more people would be here for breakfast.

Steve:

He's like, well, Lily's at Wesleyan with Eric, and

Leif:

I wonder if Matt was depressed.

Leif:

The fact that he was the only person over 40 on set that week.

Steve:

Well, and, and here's another thing about Matt Settle that I

Steve:

discovered last week though during.

Steve:

Season two, he was expecting his first daughter or first child.

Steve:

I don't know if he knew if it was a daughter or not, but he

Steve:

was expecting his first child.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

During season three, he had a, an infant at home that he

Steve:

was going home to every night.

Steve:

So I can now imagine how hard it is to be mad at this teenage girl and

Steve:

being like, is this what parenthood is like, is this how I'm gonna have to be?

Steve:

Like, this isn't what I wanna do as a parent.

Steve:

I'm not calling the cops on my kid.

Steve:

Now here's the other thing.

Steve:

By the end of this season, he's divorced.

Steve:

So throughout season four, I'm wondering if he is just miserable because you

Steve:

actually, you had those like really good moments of anger from Rufuss this

Steve:

season, which is usually what he can't do.

Steve:

He usually struggles, and now I just wonder if his home life is so fucking

Steve:

miserable that he's just become a better actor for what he needs to be.

Leif:

Nate and Chuck pass each other outside the empire.

Leif:

Nate is going to return Juliet's stuff and Chuck is returning

Leif:

from his nightly activities.

Leif:

However, Chuck spots Blair down the street and goes to as Nate leaves.

Leif:

Blair initially tries to deny her natural urges, but Chuck's charm wins her over

Leif:

and let two rush off to a partially hidden seller door for a quickie.

Steve:

How do you just, oh, we're just gonna go down to that cellar, right?

Steve:

And he's just like, oh, I just point, like right over there, like, how do

Steve:

you know that Nothing is there, guys.

Steve:

Uh, but it is very, it is fun for if I have to put up with these two.

Steve:

That was funny.

Leif:

Colin and Serena are accidentally sharing a cab together.

Leif:

Serena wants Colin to be her date to the ball tonight, but Colin doesn't

Leif:

think that's a good idea because several Columbia faculty will be in attendance,

Leif:

however Colin thinks they should instead take a vacation together this weekend.

Leif:

Yeah,

Steve:

good way to stay away from each other is we'll just go on a vacation.

Steve:

Oh, they'll be in separate rooms though, but they'll be, yeah, in separate

Steve:

rooms and they're flying in separately.

Steve:

But even then, but like again, to our earlier point though, Colin

Steve:

is still being extraordinarily respectful of her boundaries.

Steve:

Colin doesn't have the same boundaries.

Steve:

Colin's like, we could bang right now if you want to.

Steve:

I don't care.

Steve:

This job doesn't mean shit to me, but it means something to you, so

Steve:

I will respect your boundaries.

Leif:

Serena thinks that she is super slick exiting the

Leif:

cab without anyone seeing her.

Leif:

However, Dan does see her exiting and also sees who is in the cab with her.

Leif:

Dan's face instantly goes judgmental.

Leif:

Serena isn't the only one caught as she actually catches Blair and Chuck

Leif:

exiting from their little rendezvous.

Leif:

At this point, gossip Girl begins narrating as we jump

Leif:

through a couple of short scenes.

Steve:

I love the judgment from Dan.

Steve:

Every now and then I

Leif:

guy checks the book

Steve:

to, yeah,

Leif:

like, wait a minute.

Steve:

God damnit.

Steve:

I don't blame Dan.

Steve:

Usually judgy Dan.

Steve:

It's like, come on, get off your shit.

Steve:

He's not wrong here.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Julia downloads the video of Colin and Serena Ming and then calls to

Leif:

make an appointment with the dean.

Steve:

We catch her once again and, and then I guess Nate.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Then Nate walks up to the building where he spent the night

Leif:

with Juliet, but the doorman tells him he has never heard of Juliet Sharp.

Steve:

I wanna say season four, episode eight.

Steve:

Doorman does his job.

Steve:

An assistant did their job.

Steve:

Good job guys.

Steve:

Good job.

Steve:

Well, he still went out Juliet's Secret.

Steve:

Well, he did, but, but he wasn't the one that was being paid to keep it.

Steve:

So

Leif:

over those previous three scenes where he added GOs,

Leif:

brawl, monologue, and it goes.

Leif:

In a city that never sleeps.

Leif:

It's important to always be alert because if you blink, you might miss

Leif:

something or someone, but be careful since the truth could be eye-opening.

Leif:

Good morning up, siders.

Leif:

This is your wake up call.

Leif:

Now we move into Act two.

Leif:

Serena confronts Blair and Chuck Blair admits that she has lost count

Leif:

of how many times they have banged.

Leif:

Serena criticizes Blair for falling off the wagon.

Leif:

Blair quickly deflects and once again attacks the Colin relationship.

Leif:

Serena doesn't let her off that easy though.

Leif:

And eventually Blair yields and claims she'll call Chuck to end things

Steve:

besties, being besties, taking digs at each other, but

Steve:

looking out for each other.

Steve:

So cute.

Steve:

Nate

Leif:

goes to see Vanessa at the loft and apologizes for

Leif:

not believing her about Juliet.

Leif:

Nate then recruits her to help take Juliet down.

Steve:

I like that Nate kind of came to apologize to Vanessa and

Steve:

points out that he gets it now.

Steve:

I also think he's kind of using her.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

And knew that she would be easy to rope into this.

Steve:

And then he

Leif:

flipped on her pretty quick too.

Steve:

And, and he did.

Steve:

Uh, he's also not the four D chess player that he sometimes thinks he is too.

Leif:

And for those who are too lazy to look it up, Hannah Arnt,

Leif:

who Vanessa mentions mm-hmm.

Leif:

Is a German and American historian and philosopher, and a very influential

Leif:

20th century political theorist.

Leif:

She lived from 1906 to 1975.

Leif:

Cool.

Leif:

I

Steve:

did not look it up.

Leif:

The more you know,

Steve:

I was the lazy one that did not look that up.

Leif:

Dan finds Serena and confronts her about Colin.

Leif:

Dan also points out the obvious that if she really was that important to this

Leif:

billionaire, he would quit his silly guest lecturer job to be with her.

Leif:

And now Dan was the last

Steve:

person nice to me, so I love him.

Steve:

Dan said something nice to me.

Steve:

Aw,

Leif:

sploosh not only that, be being protective of her.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Oh, Dan's defending me and looking out for me and saying how, oh,

Steve:

he's my, he could be my daddy.

Steve:

It's just, it's so, just the, the golden retriever once again, just

Steve:

sees the new shiny and it, and I'm, again, I'm not mad at Dan in this.

Steve:

Usually when Dan is being a judgmental prick, I'm like, especially when

Steve:

he's a butt hurt, jealous, judgmental prick, which he does a lot.

Steve:

It's really annoying and it's really off putting.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And it's really like, you're a better person than that.

Steve:

I'm not mad at him here.

Steve:

I don't, he's not really, sometimes people need to be judged.

Steve:

Yeah, some, yeah, exactly.

Steve:

Sometimes people need to be judged and he is writing everything he says,

Steve:

like, it's already inappropriate.

Steve:

And if this guy really wanted to be with you, he'd quit.

Leif:

Blair and Chuck are once again post Quietal, and this time back where

Leif:

it all started, Chuck's limo, they both agree that they have to end this.

Leif:

However, they may have different ideas on how to accomplish that.

Leif:

After Blair exits the limo, Chuck lowers the privacy barrier and

Leif:

tells Arthur that they need to go pick up a bunch of condoms.

Leif:

Chuck's approach looks like it's going to be immersion

Steve:

therapy.

Steve:

Immersion therapy.

Steve:

That's the word.

Steve:

I, I, I had it before we started the thing.

Steve:

This, the, the intro and then it slipped my mind as we were there.

Steve:

Ah, I said exposure anyway.

Steve:

Why does your driver need to know

Leif:

and why does he have such a creepy swamp mile when you mention you're gonna

Leif:

have so much sex with your girlfriend?

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Like why he do you show him?

Steve:

We do know that Blair doesn't mind being watched.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

That might not have been the only time that privacy barrier was down.

Leif:

Oh, he was so creepy about it too.

Leif:

Blair is back at her apartment telling ROA to help distract her

Leif:

from Chuck Blair's method of choice seems to be aversion therapy.

Steve:

I thought this was hilarious.

Steve:

I thought it was great that the two of them, yep.

Steve:

I've gotta get over it.

Steve:

And Chuck's like, only way to get over it is to bang for the entire day.

Steve:

And she's like, I need to get a detox.

Steve:

Get this outta my system.

Steve:

It, it sets up really fun conflict.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

So I, I, I liked their storyline because of that.

Leif:

Colin and Serena meet in the halls and discuss their vacation plans.

Leif:

Dan clearly got in Serena's head because she is now doubting the relationship.

Steve:

It's so easy to do just that little, that little nugget that you throw.

Steve:

I don't know if Dan knows how easy it is.

Steve:

To throw Serena off.

Steve:

I don't know if he's picked up on it.

Steve:

'cause he is usually so irritated when he does it, but this isn't the first time

Steve:

he is gotten in her head about something like this and it's so easy to do.

Steve:

And now she's just like, well, we shouldn't go away at all.

Steve:

Like, well, why are you even still at, at this school?

Steve:

Like, where did this come from?

Steve:

Serena then starts

Leif:

dating younger.

Leif:

Yes.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Agreed.

Leif:

Any seniors in high school around?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Eric's got friends, right?

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

He,

Leif:

he can wingman for his buddies.

Leif:

Oh.

Leif:

Nate is having coffee with Juliet to distract her while Vanessa

Leif:

goes to find her real apartment.

Leif:

Juliet, however, regains Nate's sympathy by admitting that she had to, she

Leif:

lied to hide the fact that she's poor.

Leif:

Nate invites Juliette to the ballet tonight.

Steve:

Juliet lying about being poor.

Steve:

Nate's not the one you have to lie to.

Steve:

Nate da dated Vanessa.

Steve:

Well, she also

Leif:

mentions the Hamilton House people.

Steve:

Right.

Steve:

Which makes sense, right?

Steve:

But when she, she specifically says, NJA Archibald wouldn't be

Steve:

into me, and he's dated the pores.

Steve:

He had a whole relationship with Vanessa who is only worth probably a couple mil.

Steve:

There's also the question of, because it sounds like Juliet

Steve:

actually really has like nothing.

Steve:

You know, we, we learn, did we already learn that her brother was a teacher?

Steve:

That was the scene with Colin way earlier, right?

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Which.

Steve:

There is something scratching at the back of my fucking head and I can't get it.

Steve:

And I'm, I'm not going back to rewatch the scenes that I,

Steve:

but I know that I've heard it.

Steve:

Like the, when he, when they pointed out that he was a teacher, I was

Steve:

like, wait, that's something, I know that's something I told

Leif:

you.

Leif:

They mentioned it.

Steve:

Right.

Steve:

And I'm saying like, and I remember saying like, that will get a teacher fired.

Steve:

But I don't remember what it was.

Steve:

I remember them doing something and me being like, oh great, so

Steve:

you're just gonna get someone fired.

Steve:

So do you know want another character?

Steve:

Who said it?

Steve:

I think it was Nate who's, no, was it Serena?

Steve:

Who was it?

Steve:

Damien.

:

Uh,

Steve:

Jesus Christ.

Steve:

Yep.

Steve:

And where did Damian know Serena from?

Steve:

Yep.

Steve:

Yep, yep.

Steve:

At her old school all coming together.

Steve:

Oh fuck.

Steve:

Serena, you're such a asshole.

Steve:

She's got a

Leif:

pattern.

Leif:

Indeed, she does.

Leif:

Meanwhile, Vanessa is Snoopy around Juliet's actual apartment.

Leif:

She sees the clothes with tags still on him and other unusual items around

Leif:

the apartment, but gets a text from Nate to call off the investigation.

Leif:

But Vanessa sits down at Juliet's computer and finds pictures

Leif:

of Colin and Serena kissing.

Leif:

It's the naus thing to do.

Steve:

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

Steve:

She's just poor.

Steve:

Call everything off because now we're talking again and we might hook up again.

Leif:

I think I might like her again.

Leif:

And why does no one in this show protect their computer with a password?

Leif:

Anyone?

Leif:

Nobody has a password.

Leif:

Hey, do it's probably password and gossip Girl has this to say.

Leif:

They say a picture's worth a thousand words, but in this case, it seems

Leif:

like there's only three letters that adequately describe these pictures.

Leif:

OMG,

Leif:

we move into Act three.

Leif:

Blair is in the tub and has gone through an entire box of macarons.

Leif:

It seems that she has ignored around 30 calls from Chuck and is clearly a

Leif:

bit frustrated when she calls for roa.

Leif:

Serena enters the bathroom instead, Serena tries to let Blair her strength by letting

Leif:

Blair know that she broke up with Colin.

Leif:

Serena leaves to make a call while Blair ignores yet another call from Chuck.

Steve:

Are the macaroons supposed to be a euphemism for masturbation?

Leif:

Uh, I don't know, but this is a good a time.

Leif:

Is any to bring up a gaff in the show?

Leif:

Okay.

Leif:

They always refer to them as macaroons as you just did.

Leif:

Right.

Leif:

Right.

Leif:

But they are actually macarons.

Leif:

Macaron, which there are two, there are macaroons.

Leif:

Right.

Steve:

Okay.

Steve:

But as macaroons are the ones that are the, like an egg, the Yes,

Leif:

they are a puffed egg.

Leif:

A thick Yes.

Leif:

They It's like a, just like a round ball.

Leif:

Yeah, like an egg white.

Leif:

Yes.

Leif:

A, a

Steve:

sugary egg.

Steve:

White and mac macros.

Steve:

But they're are those

Leif:

cookie wafer things, right.

Leif:

That she was

Steve:

eating?

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And I, I never get the, I'm always confusing the two, so I, my, my

Steve:

gaff is just as in line as theirs.

Leif:

But this is, that's like a series wide gaff.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Because it's not the first time.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

But I, and I asked that question because of all the macaroons

Steve:

that she's clearly gone through already to prevent her frustration.

Steve:

And then as she's leaving later and she's like, you know, he's hungry and

Steve:

I am too, and eats another macaroon.

Steve:

It's definitely, it's

Leif:

kind of that, but they, they've happened shied away from the masturbation

Leif:

topic before, so I think it's more just a stress eating type of thing.

Leif:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

Or which, or horny eating thing even you, you know?

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

But, which brings another point.

Leif:

They're just like completely forgetting that she is a recovering bulimic.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

That, that she has an eating disorder and that she doesn't,

Steve:

that you never see her eat sweetss.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

That like when she does eat, when it does and she just like binged a whole box.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

When she does, it's usually like dark chocolate and you know,

Steve:

less fatty, less sugary things.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Leif:

Juliet meets with Colin to let him know that she is giving up on Ben and now

Leif:

that Nate is giving her a second chance.

Steve:

I do think it's kind of funny in this conversation where

Steve:

she's like, well, there's a boy.

Steve:

I'm like, there's a boy that's gonna make me abandon my

Steve:

brother and accept your money.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And it's like I get that Colin wants her away from this brother who is apparently

Steve:

a bad influence in Colin's mind.

Steve:

'cause he pled guilty to this crime.

Steve:

But Juliet actually selling out her brother, quite literally for Nate.

Steve:

Really?

Steve:

Ultimately.

Steve:

Well, I mean, he is already in jail.

Steve:

He's selling out her, his revenge plan.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

But also he, she has to abandon him.

Steve:

She's not allowed to be in touch with him Yeah.

Steve:

While he's in jail.

Steve:

So there's that.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I just, I, I felt like it was, once again, the Gossip Girl show.

Steve:

It's all for a man, once again when she's doing this.

Steve:

And I get that She likes Nate.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

I feel like she could still like be communicating with Ben behind his back.

Leif:

'cause he didn't know until this, this whole scheme thing

Leif:

started blowing up, right?

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

Until she

Steve:

started getting caught.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

So she could still just talk to him.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

I feel like, and he would never even know.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Blair dressed for the ballet is shocked to find Chuck on her bed

Leif:

wearing what I assume is Blair's robe.

Leif:

She is about to give in once again, but is saved by roa.

Leif:

Blair leaves to meet Colin downstairs as he is there to be Blair's date supposedly.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And he was there looking for Serena and Blair runs into him and grabs

Steve:

him and says, you're my dad now.

Steve:

Now.

Steve:

That goofy

Leif:

robe.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And what, this is another, it's a such a blairism that he's like,

Steve:

oh yeah, I quit my job for Serena.

Steve:

Oh, well then you must be perfect for her.

Steve:

What?

Steve:

We haven't got there yet.

Steve:

Oh.

Steve:

I thought that was right here.

Steve:

When she Oh this, she was just told that he's downstairs.

Steve:

My bad.

Steve:

Oh yeah.

Steve:

This is Chuck in the robe.

Steve:

Yeah, I I love that robe too.

Steve:

I love that he's there in, in Blair's robe ready to bang.

Steve:

And I, I just thought the, that the sort of farcical comedy here was really nice.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

That Serena calls Dan to and saves him from an evening of DVDs and cold pizza by

Leif:

inviting him to be her date to the ballet.

Leif:

Tonight, I'm single and you

Steve:

are the last person nice to me.

Steve:

Would you go to a date with me?

Steve:

Would you go to the ballet with me?

Steve:

And he looks

Leif:

so happy here.

Leif:

He does.

Leif:

And he, there's no way.

Leif:

And Penn really killed it with the facial acting this episode.

Leif:

Oh yeah.

Leif:

Penn was great.

Leif:

Yes.

Leif:

And I have to wonder.

Leif:

They ha are recently broken up in real life at this point, right?

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

So how is he shadowing

Steve:

this?

Steve:

His true feelings?

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Like this is easy.

Steve:

This is the easiest job I've ever had.

Steve:

Uh, I mean, until he gets to certain scenes in you that I think were,

Steve:

he recently released an interview about, did you see any of that?

Steve:

About his experience with the intimacy coordinator in you?

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Uh, yes.

Leif:

He is making love to a camera.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

He's not a terrible writer, though.

Steve:

I think that Penn might be a better writer than Dan.

Leif:

Now, Blair comes downstairs to find Colin, who has quit his job and

Leif:

is looking for Serena just, and just like with Tripp, Blair instantly flips

Leif:

her script and gives full approval for Serena to bang this older dude.

Leif:

Instant.

Steve:

Instant.

Steve:

Oh, you did.

Steve:

You quit your job.

Steve:

So you're not a professor anymore.

Steve:

That's the only thing that was bothering me about this whole thing.

Steve:

Go bang away that you're like 10 years older than her.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

En enjoy Mr.

Steve:

You're a

Leif:

catch.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

You're two genetically gifted people.

Leif:

I, yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

The two.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

I

Leif:

Genetically fortunate or something like that.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Juliet returns to her apartment to find Vanessa waiting for her.

Leif:

And Juliet claims she is a changed woman who no longer wants to take Serena down.

Leif:

Juliet deletes the pictures from her laptop, but Vanessa

Leif:

walks away with a thumb drive

Steve:

that she just showed you that she had.

Steve:

She like talks, I have these photos in my hand.

Steve:

Well, I'm deleting them from my laptop.

Steve:

Okay.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Not smart, but Juliet there no.

Leif:

And Gossip Girl has this to say,

Leif:

looks like the chip on Vanessa's shoulder just went digital.

Leif:

That was pretty bad one.

Leif:

So bad.

Leif:

And we go into Act four.

Leif:

Outside the Lincoln Center.

Leif:

Dan stares across the crowd at Serena, standing alone by the fountain.

Leif:

Nate approaches Dan and says Serena is using him just like

Leif:

she did with him last week.

Leif:

When Dan says Serena broke up with Colin, the boys see Serena and

Leif:

Colin now together and talking.

Leif:

Colin lets Serena know that he quit his position and the two go in for the

Leif:

kiss one, the camera pans back to Dan.

Leif:

From across the crowd, we can see his heart shatter into a million pieces.

Steve:

I really liked this interaction with Nate too.

Leif:

Yeah, because it, this whole scene was free.

Leif:

I, I, this song is really good.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

The shot of the Lincoln Center was beautiful.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

It, it was just all, it all came together.

Steve:

You also have like the clear cameos from the ballerinas.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Who get introduced, who Blair introduces.

Steve:

What I liked about the Nate thing is, you can see Nate's still pissed.

Steve:

And Nate's doing the Nate thing of like making little digs at Dan, but

Steve:

you can also kind of see that this is how the two of them get back together.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Whenever they've had tension, it always starts the few shots and

Steve:

then they kind of get over that.

Steve:

So I feel like despite the way that this episode ends, I feel like there's

Steve:

room for them to work through stuff.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Chuck finds Blair and puts on the hard press.

Leif:

Blair says that Colin wasn't a distraction from Chuck, but rather Chuck was her

Leif:

distraction from Colin, who she agreed not to sleep with until the semester was over.

Leif:

Chuck, however, doesn't buy it.

Leif:

Clever Blair.

Leif:

It was.

Leif:

It was a good attempt.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Nate finds Vanessa at the ballet and the two strike up a conversation.

Leif:

Vanessa begins waving her champagne glass like a cartoon villain while

Leif:

revealing her entire plan before walking off to find the dean.

Leif:

Nate sees Blair and knows who to turn to when it's time to protect Serena.

Leif:

Yep.

Steve:

It's time to protect Serena.

Steve:

And the good thing about this though, is that she also spills that

Steve:

Juliet had this in the first place.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

So that everybody can be isolated and really solidify the non-judging

Steve:

breakfast club, which is one of my favorite things that this show does.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Serena chases down a Leaving Dan to apologize, but still remains

Leif:

indecisive about the whole thing.

Leif:

Uh, I kind

Steve:

of like you, but I kinda like Kyle too.

Steve:

I loved how Dan was like, how far down on the list.

Steve:

Am I?

Steve:

Which one?

Steve:

Where am I?

Steve:

So it was Colin, Nate, me, who else?

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Not, not a, not a happy episode for Dan.

Leif:

No.

Leif:

When Vanessa finally finds Dean wether, she is quickly interrupted

Leif:

and pulled aside by Juliette.

Leif:

She begs Vanessa not to go through with it because she had a change of heart.

Leif:

Vanessa figures out that Julia is backing down because of Nate and informs her of

Leif:

Nate's part in the plan from earlier.

Leif:

V then points out that Nate is probably telling Blair everything

Leif:

right now because the NJBC will always defend each other over any outsider.

Leif:

Julia takes the message to heart, grabs the thumb drive, and

Leif:

marches back over to the dean.

Steve:

You have four best friends that are always going to defend each other.

Steve:

Four people who ride or die will always, even if they hate each other in the

Steve:

moment, four people that are always gonna ride or die and always stick up for each

Steve:

other and always be there for each other.

Steve:

I have friends like that, right?

Steve:

I have my best friends that I would pretty much ride or die for.

Steve:

What I'm getting at is, as I said earlier, Vanessa's whole thing here is jealousy.

Steve:

She's so mad that this group shut her out.

Steve:

She never liked them.

Steve:

She liked Nate for a little bit.

Steve:

She's always hated Blair.

Steve:

She's always hated Chuck.

Steve:

She's never really had anything to do with Serena except for losing out to her.

Steve:

So she has this entire jealousy motivation for these people who she doesn't like

Steve:

and doesn't want who, because they don't want her to be a part of it.

Steve:

You don't like 'em anyway.

Steve:

It's like people protesting gay marriage.

Steve:

Why are you protesting a wedding you're not invited to?

Steve:

Anyway?

Steve:

So like why is Vanessa so upset about Serena?

Steve:

Well, I think she's still pissed

Leif:

off about Serena stealing Dan

Steve:

last season, which he really didn't do.

Steve:

It wasn't even last season.

Steve:

It was the beginning of this one, right?

Steve:

Or are you talking about the end of last season?

Steve:

The end of last season.

Steve:

Season

Leif:

when, when they ki when they kissed and slept in the same bed.

Steve:

Right, right.

Steve:

But there's that and yes, like this year when Dan was all

Steve:

wishy-washy about Vanessa,

Leif:

they, they're not together.

Leif:

They weren't, yeah.

Leif:

They weren't really together then.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

So he was Steve, was that his Right to figure out who he wanted to be with?

Steve:

Right.

Steve:

And I, but I still believe that that plays into Vanessa's.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Unjustified jealousy.

Steve:

Well, I think she's kind of justified her jealousy towards Serena.

Steve:

Okay.

Steve:

Not unjustified jealousy, but unjustified.

Steve:

She, she has, she's not justified in trying to take

Steve:

down Serena for being jealous.

Steve:

No.

Steve:

No.

Steve:

And, and so it's one of those, Vanessa, you're so fucking wrong

Steve:

on every point, and Serena hasn't actually done shit to Vanessa.

Steve:

She is really, she, she spent, she kissed her boyfriend.

Steve:

Okay.

Steve:

Wrong.

Steve:

She had a boyfriend and she kissed your boyfriend.

Steve:

That's wrong.

Steve:

That is the end of what Serena did to Vanessa.

Steve:

Yeah, I agree.

Steve:

And Vanessa fucked Serena over by stealing her phone and giving it to

Steve:

someone who was going to fuck her over

Leif:

harder.

Leif:

And I, I don't know why Vanessa wants to vindicate herself to a dean of a score.

Leif:

She doesn't go Right.

Leif:

Yes.

Leif:

Like, and, and

Steve:

I love, I love how they Well, they point that out in a little bit.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

But

Leif:

we get a gossip curl blast before we go to the break and it says.

Leif:

Put on your toe shoes, Serena.

Leif:

It's gonna be hard to dance your way out of this one.

Leif:

And we move into Act five, we get a really fun and chaotic scene where

Leif:

Juliet, Vanessa tried to expose Serena's affair with Colin, but the

Leif:

non-judging Breakfast Club dance circles around the other characters.

Leif:

Blair drops the thumb drive in a glass of champagne and says it was

Leif:

her having the affair with Colin.

Leif:

This is confirmed by Chuck who admits he has Blair followed.

Leif:

When Vanessa tries to argue back, she gets scorched by Dean Wether,

Leif:

and she's like, who are you?

Steve:

Which fair?

Steve:

Right?

Steve:

Like you're, you don't, and which also, like Vanessa, you don't go here,

Steve:

you have like a whole other school.

Steve:

How do you have no friends at NYU?

Steve:

How is Dan still your only friend?

Steve:

Like are you We, well, I, the answer is you're fucking unbearable, but

Steve:

still go meet theater friends.

Leif:

She did have friends at NYU, but she's not important

Leif:

enough to get her own storylines.

Leif:

Right.

Leif:

Because Yeah.

Leif:

That no one would wanna watch.

Leif:

And Vanessa just alone at n nyu Yeah.

Steve:

The, the, the, the Vanessa spinoff hanging out with the Tisch kids.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

She go date Paul again

Steve:

and argue with Willa.

Steve:

Oh

Steve:

yeah.

Steve:

I think Willow's even worse than the mad do.

Steve:

She's a, well, Willow's a sociopath.

Steve:

I mean, sexual predator an a sexual predator and a sociopath,

Steve:

which I guess you kind of have to be one to be the other, but.

Leif:

Colin chases down Juliet and announces that she is officially cut off.

Leif:

She then gets surrounded by the non-judging breakfast club who

Leif:

banish her from Columbia, which you

Steve:

can't, but, but they can because her, because she pay, they don't

Steve:

really pay a payback for anymore.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

First of all, Colin, again, just being like, I've tried like I try,

Steve:

like I'm not mad at him for this.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

You really screwed me over and you really screwed over someone I care about.

Steve:

For what?

Steve:

For your criminal brother who, I'm kind of guessing that whatever it is that

Steve:

he was set up, if I remember correctly, the thing Damien said, I think it has

Steve:

something to do with drugs and the teacher getting set up drugs or alcohol

Steve:

or something, if I remember correctly.

Steve:

But, but something that I remember saying that it would get a teacher arrested.

Steve:

Was it in the coat room

Leif:

that he says it?

Leif:

I think he was in the car.

Leif:

Uh, possibly.

Leif:

Gossip girl has this to say as we go to break

Leif:

spotted one ugly duckling exile.

Leif:

Let's hope she doesn't turn into a black swan.

Steve:

I don't think it's right to call Juliet an ugly duckling duckling,

Leif:

and we move into the epilogue.

Leif:

Serena and Colin are in cab, and Colin apologizes for Juliet's behavior.

Leif:

Serena once again breaks up with him and once again proving that Colin didn't

Leif:

give a shit about his teaching position.

Leif:

Worst.

Leif:

Serena, for that matter, let's her outta the cab with a big smile on his face.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

He's like, all right.

Steve:

Eh, easy cop, easy go.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Okay, man, I really, I really did like give up a lot for you,

Steve:

but not that much relatively.

Steve:

And I'm just gonna go bang.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

All right.

Steve:

Cool.

Steve:

Like, I was really gonna go back to my life doing what I was doing.

Steve:

Yep.

Steve:

I was cool playing the slow game with you because like, I thought

Steve:

you might be worth it, but then again, I can go not do that anymore.

Steve:

So, cool.

Steve:

Douches and,

Leif:

and be a billionaire.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

This was fun.

Steve:

I'm just gonna gallivant some more.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

But, but, uh, again, like, fuck you, Serena, like this guy quits

Steve:

for you, and you're like, Hmm.

Steve:

Now that I can have him.

Steve:

I, I realize this is boring and it's not hot anymore, so

Steve:

now I need to find someone.

Steve:

Well, I think now he actually feels kind of like my dad.

Steve:

Oh, yeah.

Steve:

I need something hotter, like a couple guys fighting over me or something.

Steve:

This just isn't doing it for me.

Leif:

Serena calls and leaves a voicemail for Dan to come meet her mid voicemail.

Leif:

She ignores a call from Nate,

Steve:

and because Dan was the last person nice to me, I'm gonna go, I,

Steve:

I think I need to hook up with Dan.

Steve:

She saw him after the kiss, right?

Steve:

She kissed Colin and then saw him and shed the down.

Steve:

Saw him.

Steve:

Yeah, that's right.

Steve:

She chased the down and she was kind

Leif:

of like, she was wishy was, she was like, yeah, I, I do kind of

Leif:

like you, but I kinda like Colin too.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

But this guy and Dan, Dan just like over it.

Leif:

He, he left.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

At the Loft, we see Dan instantly get the voicemail with a green on

Leif:

his face and heads back out the door.

Leif:

Yep.

Leif:

Of course.

Leif:

While Serena's waiting outside for Dan, Nate walks up, he admits that it was

Leif:

Juliet who turned him against Serena.

Leif:

He wonders aloud what might have happened between him and Serena.

Leif:

If not for Juliet's interference.

Leif:

Dan steps outta the cab behind Nate and once again has the look

Leif:

of the saddest man in the world

Steve:

and we cut away.

Steve:

Right.

Steve:

We don't see a resolution here and we know that Serena sees Dan.

Steve:

Nate never turns around, does he?

Steve:

No, I don't think so.

Steve:

So, which I was kind of hoping for that.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I was hoping for the three to make eye contact and it'd be like, oh,

Steve:

which again, Dan, Serena, Nate.

Steve:

Just work it out.

Steve:

Just work it out.

Leif:

The three

Steve:

of you.

Leif:

I think, once again, Serena is clearly choosing Dan.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

And Nate's just kind of been there and she's not gonna, she doesn't dislike Nate.

Leif:

She's not gonna be mean to him for no reason.

Leif:

No.

Leif:

But she did ignore his call and he just showed up.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

The other side of that is, is that now Nate has come and said nice things

Steve:

to her, and that's the secret to getting Serena is say nice things to

Leif:

her.

Leif:

But the last time this happened at the, in episode four, he, he was

Leif:

saying nice things, but I think she was clearly leaning towards Dan.

Leif:

Maybe Blair and Chuck are sitting in front of a fire celebrating their victory.

Leif:

They agree that they are back to being just old friends, but as they begin

Leif:

to part for the evening, they instead embrace in loving passion rather

Leif:

than the hate they had been doing.

Steve:

I was actually hoping this was it, like they had the day of.

Steve:

They, they, they had their, they banged it out.

Steve:

But did they like they did.

Steve:

Apparently they did.

Steve:

They did not.

Steve:

They did not.

Steve:

I, I was, because you know, Blair had her detox all day.

Steve:

It was the end of the day.

Steve:

They had their scheme.

Steve:

It was better than sex.

Steve:

They chatted it out.

Steve:

It would've been such a great moment for them to clink their

Steve:

glasses, shake hands, and go home.

Steve:

Yep.

Steve:

I'm just tired of this.

Steve:

Robin is all in on Blair and Chuck.

Steve:

I want Dare.

Steve:

I've been very vocal.

Steve:

I'm waiting for Dare and I want that to happen and I'm so over Blair and Chuck.

Steve:

It's just give me some different story.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Today was a different story for them.

Steve:

Slightly, but give me something for real different.

Steve:

Give them something

Leif:

else.

Leif:

I'm just so

Steve:

tired of it.

Leif:

Under Vanessa's advice, Juliet is video chatting with little J for

Leif:

help on how to fight back against the non-judging breakfast club.

Leif:

Vanessa,

Steve:

even bigger asshole, you know, of all people that the reason Jenny moved

Steve:

away is because she kept getting sucked into this shit and it was making her a

Steve:

terrible person and she didn't want to be the terrible person she was becoming.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

And now Vanessa went and drug her back in and it's also like,

Steve:

Jenny, what the fuck are you doing?

Steve:

Like you stay out of this shit for a reason now.

Steve:

So why are you getting involved in this?

Steve:

She's an addict.

Steve:

She is.

Steve:

She is.

Steve:

And it's just, and you don't win, like you get ground, but

Steve:

you know, you have said yourself.

Steve:

It is a war of attrition if you are going up against them that they have

Steve:

the resources and they have the not giving a fucks to win every time.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

So you're just getting yourself in more trouble.

Steve:

Just go on tour with your band and stay there.

Leif:

Gossip Girl ends the episode with this monologue.

Leif:

Sometimes in life we hit a crossroads and are forced to choose which path we want to

Leif:

take, and there's no way of knowing if our journey will lead us to pleasure or pain.

Leif:

Once we've made our choice, there's no turning back.

Leif:

Watch out Upper East Side.

Leif:

I think this could be the beginning of an ugly friendship.

Leif:

Xo xo.

Leif:

Yas up girl.

Leif:

What is coming

Steve:

next?

Steve:

Alright, well obviously we're gonna get little J And now I did see the thumbnail

Steve:

that we have at least two episodes, or I don't know if she's in the next

Steve:

one, but the episode after next, the thumbnail she's in, in the thumbnail.

Steve:

Uh, so I know that we've got little J coming in, so we're gonna have a a, a

Steve:

Brooklyn Upper East Side War that, that we're gonna have this little, uh, class

Steve:

war going on between Juliet, Vanessa, and.

Steve:

Jenny and the non-judging breakfast pod club we're the, we're the pod.

Steve:

I am curious as to where the Serena of it all will land with Little J. 'cause

Steve:

I know Jenny hates Serena very much for the same reasons Vanessa does.

Steve:

Serena didn't do anything to Jenny last episode, except have a boyfriend

Steve:

that Jenny wanted, and Jenny did everything she could to fuck with Serena.

Steve:

Not everything she could, but Jenny definitely went after Serena last year

Steve:

without Serena really knowing Serena.

Leif:

Absolutely.

Leif:

You know, and she, she hates.

Leif:

Jenny and reiterated that the last time Jenny showed up this season,

Steve:

that's Oh, that's right.

Steve:

She did.

Steve:

She was very much like, fuck off little J My, my point being that Serena's

Steve:

animosity towards Jenny is Jenny's fault.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

That Jenny, that Jenny went after Serena's boyfriend and fucked

Steve:

with her relationship and then tried to fuck with her whole family.

Steve:

So I'm cool with Serena being mad at Jenny, but Jenny, like,

Steve:

you're just digging yourself into a ditch by doing this.

Steve:

And Serena's probably the one person who, when Jenny needed

Steve:

it, was in her corner at times.

Steve:

Like early on.

Leif:

Early on, she, she was not great a couple times.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Uh, Jenny's party that she took

Steve:

over, Jenny's party that she took over was really the thing that I

Steve:

feel Serena did most to Jenny directly.

Steve:

And there's something

Leif:

in season three as well.

Leif:

It was, it was something similar to that.

Leif:

I forget, I'm forgetting what it was.

Leif:

I,

Steve:

I know, I do know what you're talking about though.

Steve:

My overall point being, I don't think that, er, that, that Jenny has

Steve:

good motivation to go after Serena, despite going hating her anyway.

Steve:

That, that, I feel like hers is mostly self, mostly self-inflicted.

Steve:

Much like Vanessa's, I feel is mostly self inflict.

Leif:

Oh.

Leif:

I feel like at this point Jenny's just coming in 'cause she's bored.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Probably.

Steve:

Well, and, and will always take a shot at Blair.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I feel like more than, more than the others.

Steve:

I think that Jenny will always take a shot at Blair if she gets a shot.

Steve:

So I think that's more of her motivation here.

Steve:

I think that we're gonna get some more drama between Dan, Nate, and Serena.

Steve:

I do think that we're gearing up towards a Dan Serena.

Steve:

Pairing at some point.

Steve:

I don't know if they've ever lasted more than three episodes as a couple.

Steve:

Since the first season.

Steve:

Since the first season.

Steve:

And even in, I feel like even in the first season, a lot of times it

Steve:

was no, from like five to the end of the season they were together.

Steve:

Oh.

Steve:

I felt like they were off and on, but I could be, I could just be forgetting that.

Steve:

But yeah, they break up at the very end.

Steve:

They,

Leif:

they of course have their little issues, but they never broke

Leif:

up once they fully got together.

Leif:

Okay.

Steve:

Okay.

Steve:

So I think I see that kind of coming back together.

Steve:

That puts Nate sort of at odds.

Steve:

So, and obviously we're gonna get this whole Ben Juliet thing is gonna

Steve:

get exposed 'cause Juliet doesn't, she's no longer beheld to Colin.

:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

I wonder if she's actually gonna stay away from Columbia 'cause her tuition

Steve:

is paid through the end of the semester.

Steve:

I think.

Steve:

I would think that she would at least try to sneak in and outta classes, but,

Steve:

so I think those are my predictions.

Leif:

Well, we will never see Colin again.

Steve:

He was just like, deuces.

Steve:

I'm over it.

Steve:

That is so funny to me.

Steve:

Like, oh, okay, you don't want to, you don't want on.

Steve:

Okay, I'll just, I'm, I'm onto the next one.

Steve:

Especially because of the Juliet, Ben's storyline not being complete

Steve:

and him being tied into it.

Steve:

I liked Col, but he wasn't really ever tied into it other than just being,

Steve:

other than being coincidentally related.

Steve:

Related co. The, the coincidence is the only thing that I

Steve:

don't like about all of this.

Steve:

I actually would've maybe liked him more if, even if he didn't know, but

Steve:

Juliet used him to target Serena.

Steve:

Anything.

Steve:

The whole, like, wa it's, come on.

Leif:

It's too easy.

Leif:

Well, let's get into segments.

Leif:

This week in fandom, we travel in the way back machine to

Leif:

the fan forearms from 2010.

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Hello there.

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Peabody here, and this is the way back machine for traveling through time.

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And this is my boy she speak Chairman.

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Hello.

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Good boy.

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Very positive reactions

Leif:

overall.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

This was, this was a, a step up.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Dan was wrong for saying Colin should quit.

Steve:

No, he

Leif:

wasn't.

Leif:

He wasn't.

Leif:

He wasn't.

Leif:

I've been saying that for three episodes.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Chuck and Blair were cute and fun.

Steve:

Yeah, yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

I'll give that

Leif:

exciting for the upcoming battle between the outsiders

Leif:

versus the upper insiders.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

That I'm, I, I think that'll be, I'm excited for it.

Steve:

I'm also kinda worried that they'll shit the bed in the execution, so

Leif:

why is it so hard for Serena to just say, I picked Dan, so I

Leif:

think they agree with me that, that she was clearly was picking Dan.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Leif:

But she just wouldn't say no to Nate.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And which it's such a Serena thing.

Steve:

Like I can't say No, I can't let any, we always wants to keep

Leif:

that door open.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

I can't

Steve:

let Yeah, exactly.

Leif:

Because eventually she, what she does, it's gonna come crumbling down

Leif:

with Dan too, because she always does.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And because her role model for how to handle relationships is

Steve:

Lily ba Is is Lily Vander Woodson.

Steve:

Bass.

Steve:

Humphrey.

Steve:

Klaus.

Steve:

Klaus.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Oh, I'm trying to think of Cece's.

Steve:

Rhodes.

Steve:

Rhodes, yeah.

Leif:

Vanessa.

Leif:

Juliet.

Leif:

And Jenny's ship name should be vi jj.

Steve:

That's good.

Steve:

That is actually really, really clever.

Leif:

Why is Vanessa going after Serena instead of Dan?

Leif:

Nate?

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Why are you so obsessed with Serena right now?

Steve:

Vanessa?

Steve:

I hated that.

Steve:

I, I really hated that whole like.

Steve:

She'll always win.

Steve:

We'll, if we don't take her down now, and it's like, what do you, what

Steve:

do you really care about Vanessa?

Steve:

Go to college.

Steve:

Go to NYU, go to class.

Steve:

You, you

Leif:

went, you're gonna one of the best schools in the, in the world, you know?

Leif:

Yeah.

Steve:

Go take advantage.

Steve:

Go to parties.

Steve:

There.

Leif:

Felt bad for Dan.

Leif:

Happy to see Colin and Serena kiss.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

That was sad.

Leif:

The NJBC is full of win.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

And they are worried about Jenny coming back.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I'm a little worried about it.

Steve:

I really like Taylor Mumon on this show.

Steve:

I think she did a terrific job when she was written off.

Steve:

I felt like it was natural.

Steve:

I feel pulling her back is I, I get that it's, she's under contract,

Steve:

but it just feels that way.

Steve:

It just feels like, well, we gotta throw her in a few times.

Steve:

And yeah,

Leif:

I, I feel like it was like an agreement that she would come

Leif:

back a couple times to get out of her, you know, full season order.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

I just, yeah,

Steve:

I don't like this.

Leif:

Moving on to episode grades.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

This was definitely a much better episode.

Leif:

I thought the directing was really good.

Leif:

The shots with the, at the outside, the Lincoln Center was really great.

Leif:

Mm-hmm.

Leif:

Also, of course the big, you know, confrontation scene

Leif:

with the dean was really good.

Leif:

Everything just, it, it felt a very much like the Thanksgiving

Leif:

scene with everything just popping one, you know, the person would be

Leif:

popping in, next person pops in.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

The next person pops in.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

So, yeah, that was good.

Leif:

Even the Chuck and Blair stuff wasn't as boring as normal,

Leif:

so I ended up with a b plus

Steve:

that, honestly, that's where I landed too.

Steve:

It was, I loved the take down at the end.

Steve:

I loved the non-judging breakfast pod getting together.

Steve:

Club did it again, the non-judging breakfast club,

Steve:

getting together and taking down.

Steve:

Taking down Juliet.

Steve:

I felt like there was, uh, some of the Vanessa stuff I think was a little weak,

Steve:

which is why I didn't give it the A. But there was a few weak points in that.

Steve:

But overall I do agree it's people.

Leif:

But yeah.

Leif:

Vanessa is now fully entered to her fill error.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

Yeah, it

Leif:

it,

Steve:

yeah.

Leif:

The way she was just like swinging that champagne glass around.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

All right.

Leif:

Moving over to Stockwatch going up.

Leif:

I had Serena 'cause she had everyone falling at her feet as

Leif:

usual and came out unscathed.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Chuck, uh, because he, you know, he was having a fun time and he

Leif:

seems to be back in Blair's heart.

Steve:

Yeah,

Leif:

Blair.

Leif:

'cause she was just, had a fun time as well and had her, you

Leif:

know, successful scheme and.

Leif:

You know, she's getting lots of, uh, sex.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

Nate, I had going up as well 'cause he was taking around

Leif:

along for two successful schemes.

Leif:

Yeah, he was, he was carried through twice.

Leif:

And I also had Dean weer going up for that sick burn of Vanessa.

Steve:

Yes.

Steve:

I, I also, that's it for you.

Steve:

Yep.

Steve:

I that I also had the all four of the non-judging breakfast club going up.

Steve:

The teamwork, the take down.

Steve:

All of that I thought worked really well together.

Steve:

I had Colin going up 'cause he's free to live the bachelor life that he was

Steve:

doing ahead of time and he has gotten rid of the shackles of academia.

Steve:

So I'm, I'm giving Colin the up, I'm giving the dean the up for not having

Steve:

the time of day to deal with bullshit and putting Vanessa in her place.

Steve:

I, I loved that.

Steve:

And I'm also giving Eric an up for touring Wesleyan.

Steve:

Good job.

Steve:

That's a, that's a big step.

Steve:

And he was mentioned and that, I'm gonna give her Eric like that

Leif:

for me, going down, I had Vanessa, obviously she

Leif:

failed, failed, failed, failed.

Leif:

I had Dan going down 'cause yeah, he got cocked twice.

Leif:

I had Juliette going down 'cause she.

Leif:

Cut off kicked outta Columbia.

Leif:

You know, she's not Yeah.

Leif:

Juliet's fucked at this point.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And you had Kyle going up?

Leif:

I had him going down 'cause he got dumped twice.

Steve:

Yeah, he did.

Steve:

He did.

Steve:

I just, I don't think that that hurts

Leif:

him.

Leif:

Yeah, it doesn't hurt him that bad.

Leif:

But he, I can't give him up 'cause he, he at best he's neutral

Leif:

but he did get dumped twice.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

I guess I saw it as like, you know, now that he's free, his stock he

Steve:

can do Yeah, he's free to, he's free to go up now, but yeah.

Steve:

In this episode he was dumped twice.

Steve:

He was he was by a teenager.

Steve:

Yes.

Leif:

Who do you have

Steve:

going

Leif:

down?

Steve:

I had Vanessa going down for uh, just for being shitty and

Steve:

being a jealous whiner, just go to NYU and go to some parties.

Steve:

I had Juliet going down 'cause she lost everything.

Steve:

And, and I'm giving Jenny a down for getting roped back into the

Steve:

bullshit that you're better than this.

Steve:

And I'm also gonna give Rufuss a down 'cause he seems so glum.

Steve:

Like Jesus Rufuss.

Steve:

Like he seems so sad.

Steve:

And it's funny 'cause I was like, why is Rufuss seems so sad?

Steve:

And then I was like, his daughter doesn't live there.

Steve:

I, I get that.

Steve:

I'm always sad my kids aren't around.

Steve:

Anyone else?

Steve:

I

Leif:

don't

Steve:

think

Leif:

so.

Leif:

Well then it is time for best outfit, but here's the best outfits from the

:

last episode we seen.

Leif:

For me.

Leif:

I had Serena's gray lace dress with the ombre chain mail clutch.

Leif:

The dress was from the Zaha Marad Fall 2010 collection.

Leif:

Yeah,

Steve:

it was for me it was between that and the robe that Chuck was

Steve:

wearing and I'm gonna give it to Serena.

Steve:

I don't give it to Serena often.

Steve:

I feel like her dresses are often boob dresses.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

They're just, they're, I feel like they're there to showcase

Steve:

her boobs more than anything else.

Steve:

Yeah.

Steve:

And sometimes they do that and it's very, and it's very elegant

Steve:

and very neat looking dresses.

Steve:

Uh, this one I just really felt was a beautiful dress that really just let her

Steve:

be beautiful without over sexualizing her, which I don't think they do very much.

Leif:

Yeah.

Leif:

Well that is it for segments.

Leif:

Do you have anything you would like to plug?

Leif:

I

Steve:

don't at this point.

Steve:

I'm pretty sure my show in Lock Haven is over.

Steve:

I think that was last weekend.

Steve:

So.

Steve:

I don't really have much outside of my Instagram and TikTok at

Steve:

Steve Marshon, M-A-R-C-H-I-O-N.

Steve:

So go ahead and check me out there and give me a follow

Leif:

for me.

Leif:

I am finally watching a show.

Leif:

I always plan to watch.

Leif:

I knew from like the beginning I was gonna watch it, but they said

Leif:

there was only gonna have four seasons, so I decided to wait.

Leif:

I'm finally watching it and that's succession and it is fucking amazing.

Leif:

And it's, it's Gossip girl.

Leif:

It's, it's so Gossip Girl coded.

Leif:

But with HBO level production quality, I, that is one of the

Leif:

ones that I've wanted to watch.

Leif:

They are all such total pieces of shit constantly scheming and

Leif:

backstabbing against each other.

Leif:

The acting is just so good.

Leif:

Like Kendall is such a piece of fucking shit.

Leif:

But at least once season, once a season, he has to be like breaking down in tears

Leif:

for him because he's just so pathetic.

Steve:

And, and that show, if I remember correctly, was originally shot with

Steve:

Kevin Spacey for the first season and then all of the shit came out about him.

Steve:

He got I didn't hear that.

Steve:

Yeah, he got me toed and they re-shot.

Steve:

Yeah, I think he was like the patriarch and they re-shot the entire thing.

Steve:

Wow.

Steve:

Glad they did because

Leif:

Brian Cox was definitely the right choice.

Steve:

Yeah, I think it was.

Steve:

I think that it was that character,

Leif:

but it, yeah, it's, it's very Gossip girl.

Leif:

And it's, you know, these rich New Yorkers on the Upper East Side.

Leif:

All pretty much horrible people scheming against each other constantly.

Steve:

Mm-hmm.

Steve:

Yeah.

Leif:

And that is it for plugs.

Leif:

If you wanna follow me on social media, you can find me

Leif:

on Instagram at Hot capa Cola.

Leif:

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Leif:

And you can find me on the same, on Blue Sky.

Leif:

And you can find the podcast on Instagram, TikTok and Threads

Leif:

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Leif:

You can also find links to our subreddit, our Discord server, and our Patreon on our

Leif:

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Steve:

If you would like to get in touch with us, we would love

Steve:

to hear what you have to say.

Steve:

Please go ahead and send us an email at Non-Judging breakfast

Steve:

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Steve:

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Steve:

Tell your coworkers, tell your friends, and tune into the

Steve:

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Leif:

And we will be back next week to talk about Season four, episode

Leif:

nine, the Witches of Bushwick.

Leif:

The episode description reads.

Leif:

Chuck host Jose Saints and Sinners masquerade at Party, at the Empire

Leif:

Hotel At the party, Dan and Nate don't know what to make of Serena's

Leif:

strange behavior and mixed messages.

Leif:

Blair sets her sights on becoming the new face of Anne

Leif:

Archibald's Foundation for girls.

Leif:

But Anne is concerned that Blair's friendship with Chuck

Leif:

Bass may be problematic.

Leif:

Oh God,

Steve:

Anne, first of all, Ann, fuck you.

Steve:

Your relationship is problematic.

Steve:

Your husband is in jail.

Steve:

He's the good guy now, and he's the good parent now.

Steve:

He's the parent that actually took a step back, clearly got some

Steve:

fucking therapy in prison and rehab, and is like, wow, son, as long as

Steve:

you're here in my life, I'm good.

Leif:

Howie.

Steve:

Oh, Howie.

Leif:

Well, until next time, you know you love us, XOXO.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Oh, it seems I'm walking right to your door.

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My heart's still resting.

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Looking for something more.

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Are you ever gonna see everything you mean to me?

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I'm trying really hard to believe.

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You take a piece of me, he with you there

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ever feels right When I'm out here on my own.

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I left last night and it feels like way too long.

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Are you ever going to see everything you mean to me?

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I'm trying really hard to believe.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Come back to me,

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smile and you'll make my life.

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Complete.

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You take a piece of me with you there.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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Every time you walk away, run away.

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