Who's In and Who's Out? Nationalism as a State-Constructed Narrative Sociologists Svenja Kopyciok, Yasemin Bavbek, and Fatma Müge Göçek discuss truth-telling, violence, and nationalism in Turkey--and beyond. Göçek's 2015 book is Denial of Violence: Ottoman Past, Turkish Present, and Collective Violence against the Armenians, 1789-2009 [https://www.amazon.com/Denial-Violence-Collective-Armenians-1789-2009/dp/0190624582] [https://lsa.umich.edu/soc/people/faculty/gocek.html] You can read a transcript of this episode here: [https://watson.brown.edu/files/watson/imce/news/podcast/trending-globally/transcripts/E54_Svenja%20Kopyciok%2C%20Yasemin%20Bavbek%2C%20Fatma%20Mu_ge%20Go_c_ek.pdf]