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Adjusting Your Life Podcast Ep 108: Your Body is Talking. Are You Listening?
Episode 10825th February 2026 • Adjusting Your Life Podcast • Dr. Stephen M. Ward, DC
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The podcast episode delves into the intricate relationship between physical pain and emotional well-being, emphasizing the notion that our bodies communicate profound messages about our inner emotional states. Dr. Steve and Kennedi delve into how the localization of pain can provide invaluable insights into the stressors affecting an individual, effectively using pain as a narrative device to understand one's life story.

Importantly, the episode distinguishes between merely treating symptoms and engaging with the deeper emotional imprints that may be causing physical discomfort. Through a thorough examination of these connections, we are invited to contemplate the necessity of active listening to our bodies, thereby fostering a more holistic approach to health that transcends superficial fixes.

Takeaways:

  1. The location of pain in one's body can reveal significant emotional and psychological stressors that need to be addressed.
  2. Understanding the emotional imprints associated with physical pain is crucial for effective healing and recovery.
  3. Individuals must learn to listen to their bodies to comprehend the underlying messages conveyed through pain and discomfort.
  4. Ignoring the emotional components of pain can lead to chronic issues, whereas actively listening can facilitate profound healing experiences.

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

The information provided in this podcast reflects the opinions and experiences of the hosts and is not medical or mental health advice.

Speaker A:

Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding any questions about your health or well being.

Speaker A:

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, contact your local emergency services.

Speaker B:

If we're aware of our own wounds that we need to work on our strengths, our weaknesses, you know, what are our good traits?

Speaker B:

What are the traits that are more of a wound inside of us?

Speaker B:

I'm going to see how far backward that curvature is.

Speaker B:

If it's mildly backward in curvature, that's a denial pattern.

Speaker B:

So I'm impacting the life by the communication that's occurring around the person, person.

Speaker B:

And I'm doing that for a reason.

Speaker C:

Welcome to the Adjusting youg Life podcast.

Speaker C:

I'm Kennedy and I'm here with Dr. Steve.

Speaker C:

This is episode 108.

Speaker C:

Your body's talking.

Speaker C:

Are you listening?

Speaker D:

This episode of the Adjusting youg Life podcast is brought to you by Ward Chiropractic.

Speaker D:

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Speaker D:

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Speaker C:

N.Com Dr. Steve, let's get right into it.

Speaker C:

So when a patient comes in, are you able to tell their story by the location of the pain they're having?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Pain location really helps to give me insight immediately as to what stressors are causing the pain that they're experiencing.

Speaker C:

Okay, so what would be the first step you would take with a patient in assessing their level of pain when they come in as it relates to, like, the story that they have?

Speaker B:

Well, first of all, some people come in and I can see in their pattern that they have a high level of denial.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So in situations like that, I'm going to be mindful that there may be very little openness to behavioral insights when I first begin.

Speaker B:

So it's important to understand that every single person who comes is different.

Speaker B:

I have a lot of people that come and they're so open to gaining awareness.

Speaker B:

They're excited about, they've heard about me and they've heard from other people that I will just look at them and I will read them and I will give them insight and help them immediately to understand deeper issues that are most likely underlying their pain pattern.

Speaker B:

So that's where I start.

Speaker B:

I look at their posture, I look at how they walk into the room.

Speaker B:

I look to see if they have a shoulder drop.

Speaker B:

I look to see if they're in a forward or backward curvature.

Speaker B:

So so many things go through my brain when assessing a patient and the problem that they're in.

Speaker B:

And it's just a unique approach because where so often people come in with this awareness to another chiropractor that I have pain, but it just came on.

Speaker B:

I don't know why I did nothing, but I have all this pain now and I really didn't do anything.

Speaker B:

And so a lot of people are then looking at, oh, what's the physical issue that's causing the pain that they're in?

Speaker B:

And in my mind, I look at things differently.

Speaker B:

I look at people holistically and not segmentally.

Speaker B:

I look at them in position of load.

Speaker B:

I want to see what they look like when they walk, when they stand, when they sit.

Speaker B:

And of course, it's so important to understand what is the key pain pattern that they're experiencing.

Speaker B:

Why are they coming to me?

Speaker B:

And so many people, I get so many people who come in in such severe pain.

Speaker B:

And so it's always so exciting for me because the harder the case, the more exciting it is.

Speaker B:

And I want those cases that other people are not unlocking, and I want those cases to find me, and I want to bring this awareness that I fully believe in in my heart and every cell in my being that's so powerful for people to gain awareness on.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

So how do you assess if someone is open to feedback as far as the emotional component to the pain that they're having?

Speaker B:

Well, very quickly I'm going to see if they're in a backward curvature.

Speaker B:

I'm going to see how far backward that curvature is.

Speaker B:

If it's mildly backward in curvature, that's a denial pattern.

Speaker B:

If it's really severe backward curvature, that's more denial.

Speaker B:

And so there are people that come in and.

Speaker B:

And I may not even express what the underlying stressors are right away because they're coming in with this belief that I'm just going to give them adjustment and fix their problem.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

So after you do the.

Speaker C:

If you make the evaluation as to whether you're going to talk to them about the emotional component, how does the next, like, the adjustment factor into that in terms of do patients adjust easier after you've given them some awareness?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I made the mistake a couple years ago of this guy came in from Illinois, and he was 6, 8 and over £500.

Speaker B:

And he came in right before lunch.

Speaker B:

And so I said, oh, let me give you a quick adjustment.

Speaker B:

And then after lunch, I'll give you another adjustment.

Speaker B:

And he had a very significant denial profile.

Speaker B:

And so here I'm taking on this case that's in high levels of denial, and I'm going to give an adjustment without any behavioral awareness.

Speaker B:

So what ended up happening is I throw this massive force into this big man and nothing moves.

Speaker B:

And the force then recoils into my wrists and I end up badly spraining both wrists.

Speaker C:

Oh, wow.

Speaker B:

So just a devastating injury for me.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

And because I need my hands and I also.

Speaker B:

They're so important in the wall adjustment technique.

Speaker B:

I have the hand behind the person and then I have the thrust hand.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

So there is a fine line here.

Speaker B:

So when this person came back after lunch, he was expecting two more treatments.

Speaker B:

And I just was almost disabled from the first treatment.

Speaker B:

And so I said, okay, when I get back from lunch, I'm going to talk to him about what I see.

Speaker B:

So I explained to him that his body's super guarded.

Speaker B:

It's an over defense that calmly, it's indicative of some parental abandonment issues and how you may deal with hurt that you experience in your life.

Speaker B:

And when you get hurt, it's likely you're internalizing the hurt and withdrawing from the hurt and you're not really wanting to be seen as vulnerable in that process.

Speaker B:

And so I ended up breaking down a few things for this person.

Speaker B:

And the next adjustment was great.

Speaker B:

I just had sprained wrists, and then the next one was even better.

Speaker B:

And so it's important in my perspective to understand the people that come in have a story, they have a wound, they come from generations of wound.

Speaker B:

And so many people in high denial may see their life solely through the eyes of some other wounded person prior to them.

Speaker B:

And so to me, it's vital to give something to even the person that's in heavy denial.

Speaker B:

So, you know, and sometimes what I do in that situation is I say, you know, your body's so guarded and so armored and so inflamed.

Speaker B:

Instead of me jumping in and treating you in this moment, I going to put you out in the waiting room and I'm going to sit you on some ice.

Speaker B:

And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to start coaching people around that person.

Speaker C:

Oh, so they can hear.

Speaker B:

So they can hear without it being directed at the person.

Speaker B:

Same with like children, right?

Speaker B:

Because when you come from, say, a child in challenge and you come at that child, it may be a.

Speaker B:

A challenge.

Speaker B:

Whereas if you.

Speaker B:

When I'm dealing with kids, what do I do?

Speaker B:

I say you know, when I was a kid, this is what I was experiencing, this is what I was feeling, this is the problems I was having.

Speaker B:

And I start talking to the child based on my own childhood experience.

Speaker B:

And then that child in their mind is saying, wow, that's my story.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So I'm impacting the life by the communication that's occurring around the person.

Speaker B:

And I'm doing that for a reason.

Speaker B:

And because a lot of people want to deny things that are directed at them, but they have no problem hearing something that's based on some other experience around them.

Speaker B:

And then by bringing that into the story, we're able to see much greater results, very quick results.

Speaker B:

And that's what it's all about, healing.

Speaker B:

To me, it's about awareness.

Speaker B:

And the more aware we are, the healthier we're going to be in our life.

Speaker B:

If we're aware of our own wounds, that we need to work on our strengths, our weaknesses, what are our good traits?

Speaker B:

What are the traits that are more of a wound inside of us?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And so this is how I go about it so often because the results speak loudly when people only care about one thing.

Speaker B:

Well, two things.

Speaker B:

Can you help me and how much will it cost me to get the help I need?

Speaker C:

Oh, interesting, right.

Speaker B:

That's why people come.

Speaker B:

Can you help me and how much do you charge?

Speaker C:

Yeah, what's, what's interesting is I used to, I don't know, I'm trying to remember where I heard this because to when you're Talking to a 4 and 5 year old, their openness is they're more open.

Speaker C:

Like I would say to my daughter, you know, when I was little and that for whatever reason opened up her receiving.

Speaker C:

Receiving receptors.

Speaker C:

Yeah, when I was trying to communicate to, to her.

Speaker C:

So that's interesting that that's something that is used absolutely.

Speaker C:

So well, that was amazing.

Speaker C:

We'll be back for a segment too.

Speaker C:

Welcome back.

Speaker C:

We're going to talk about some of the common profiles that Dr. Steve sees with patients that come into the clinic.

Speaker C:

So, Dr. Steve, I know one of the things that we've talked about are patients that come in and make a pre announcement as far as that they're difficult to adjust.

Speaker C:

How do you approach that patient?

Speaker B:

Well, I say to them, let's be open to you adjusting.

Speaker B:

Well, I said I do a different type of an adjustment that works really well with people who are difficult to adjust in common chiropractic methods.

Speaker B:

And I use a leverage technique.

Speaker B:

So I take a person that may be in a resistance and I sit them down, I put them in a state of exhaustion, take them out of resistance.

Speaker B:

And so often the people that tell me they've been to many chiropractors and I've been hurt before by chiropractors, I've had very, like, very few chiropractors have ever been able to move me.

Speaker B:

I.

Speaker B:

So I just want you to know you probably are not going to be able to adjust me at all.

Speaker C:

Interesting.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so, and so, and it's interesting to me that that's even stated.

Speaker B:

But it is their experience.

Speaker B:

And when it, when their experiences, I'm difficult to adjust.

Speaker B:

Their belief is that I will have difficulty.

Speaker B:

But the truth of the matter is it's the most difficult.

Speaker B:

People are commonly able to be adjusted.

Speaker B:

There are people that are challenging, and I say to them, oh, that was very challenging.

Speaker B:

But I'll ask them, when was the last time you had adjustment?

Speaker B:

Oh, two years ago, five years ago, 12 years ago, 18 years ago.

Speaker B:

And I say, okay, well, this is why we're going to do more than one adjustment on you today, because we're going to adjust you to begin the process, but then 90 minutes to two hours later, we're going to do a second adjustment on you, and we're going to see such great change in your body from the first one to the second.

Speaker C:

So do you see the pattern?

Speaker C:

Do you find it more common in women than men or about the same?

Speaker B:

Well, it depends on the male and it depends on the female.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So it's going to be a little more challenging with women who are backward and left in curve, which is a full masculine pattern.

Speaker B:

It's going to be more challenging for men that are backward and right and curve that are going to be a little bit more challenging.

Speaker B:

However, so often those patterns are more present standing.

Speaker B:

So I would approach that with having them sit down, take them out of the most guarded state.

Speaker B:

So often they're, they're coming in, we're putting them on ice in the waiting room.

Speaker B:

We may, for people who are super resistant or super inflamed, I might put them on the Beamer mat and have them run two or three cycles, which increases blood flow.

Speaker B:

And it really helps to loosen people, helps them to be less stressed.

Speaker B:

And I find that icing Beamer mat communication, having someone sit in the waiting room, have people embrace what's happening around them.

Speaker B:

As you come into my waiting room, your new person, and there's other people in the waiting room, they're coaching them, they're telling them, wow, you are, you've chosen a Great doctor right there.

Speaker B:

I hear them out there doing my work for me.

Speaker C:

Right, right.

Speaker B:

And it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker B:

And so by the time they come into the treatment room, they're already, they've already been impacted by multiple lives and their stories and where they came in with the problem and how I was able to help resolve their problem.

Speaker B:

And I resolve problems very quickly, but not always in all cases, but so many challenging cases, within a day they will be quite a bit better.

Speaker B:

When I get a call and someone says, well, I've been seeing a chiropractor call couple times a week for six months.

Speaker B:

I'm still having the problem.

Speaker B:

How long before I should feel some change in the problem?

Speaker B:

I say, oh, within five minutes.

Speaker B:

And they're like, excuse me, did you say five minutes?

Speaker B:

Because what I will do and what I'm gifted to do is bring a body that's in imbalance back into balance.

Speaker B:

And I balance body so fast, less than five minutes, I will balance the shoulder drop, I will balance the short leg.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So back to the, the spinal pattern you talked about for women and men.

Speaker C:

Can we talk about the, the family dynamic that's going on with that pattern and in the woman and then in the man?

Speaker B:

Sure.

Speaker B:

Well, the, the dynamic with the woman that's backward and left.

Speaker B:

The left curve is her need for male approval, male parent approval, ENC validation and love.

Speaker B:

The backward curve indicates the male was more absent.

Speaker B:

Maybe the father worked a lot, had a father that wasn't present.

Speaker B:

Maybe the father didn't know how to love because no one even expressed love to the father.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And so when looking at these dynamics, understanding, oh, I have a person that's backward and left, they're going to be more internal.

Speaker B:

That female is going to be more of a processor.

Speaker B:

They're going to be in denial.

Speaker B:

They're going to be in denial of their energy.

Speaker B:

They're going to be more accustomed to allowing their mental mind to dictate their physical body.

Speaker B:

Because when there's a wound, okay, people get confused and they think that they need to prove their value so that we see this in ladies all the time.

Speaker B:

They overdo and they over push their mothers and maybe their wife.

Speaker B:

And they're full time workers and they're trying to do so many things, but why are they overdoing?

Speaker B:

Why are they over pushing?

Speaker B:

When is it enough in what they're doing?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

And so it's so important, as I see my job as a doctor, it's to understand that every person's unique.

Speaker B:

Every person comes from A generational story.

Speaker B:

Every person comes from wounding and they maybe have no clue as to that aspect that's resulting in the problems that they're experiencing.

Speaker B:

And so, for instance, the other day the rain was coming.

Speaker B:

It never rains in California.

Speaker B:

Well, it was raining in California.

Speaker B:

So I had a patient come in and she had purchased all these sandbags for her property.

Speaker B:

She's 70 years old.

Speaker B:

And so she lifted all these heavy sandbags and then because the rain came, all the leaves off the tree fell on her on the ground.

Speaker B:

And she was going to have Christmas dinner.

Speaker B:

And so here she is getting all the leaves off the ground, putting down all these bags and then she's going grocery shopping.

Speaker B:

Then she's preparing the meal, right?

Speaker B:

And she was asked, do you need help?

Speaker B:

What did she say?

Speaker C:

She's got it, she's got it.

Speaker B:

I don't need any help.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

Oh God, what a problem that is, right?

Speaker B:

So for the woman, backward and left, when asked if you need help, get in the habit of saying, yes, yes, I need help.

Speaker B:

And the more you can help me, the better for me.

Speaker B:

Instead of let me prove to everyone that I can handle it by denial and being in denial of my energy.

Speaker B:

And what they're doing is just powering through mentally.

Speaker B:

On the other hand, you did ask about the male who is backward and Right.

Speaker B:

It's an interesting pattern because you go to men a lot of times that are right curve and you say, oh, you're so emotional.

Speaker B:

And they say, no, I'm not emotional.

Speaker B:

But then when they get angry, they can't regulate emotion.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So they're very emotional.

Speaker B:

Why would that be?

Speaker B:

Because they looked for approval from a dominant female that never received approval and that female would negate them repeatedly.

Speaker B:

And so, you know, and then you look at the backward curve and that's the father abandonment dynamic.

Speaker B:

So that's a, that's an interesting pattern because it's an emotional and a mental.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

The backward curve is more mental and the right curve is more emotional.

Speaker B:

And so those cases are pretty high denial.

Speaker B:

They commonly, especially if they're really far backward, they're commonly coming in with an acute problem and the problem comes out of nowhere.

Speaker B:

All of a sudden they have this major problem and these men are wanting what a quick fix.

Speaker B:

They're not wanting a long term solution.

Speaker B:

They're coming to me, they've read my reviews, they think, oh, I'm Jesus and I'm going to fix them in one treatment.

Speaker C:

The physical part of it, right?

Speaker B:

And the truth of the matter is healing is occurring from within.

Speaker B:

And the best doctor is indeed the patient.

Speaker B:

And if the patient wants to get the result they desire, it means that they're open to doing the work necessary to reframe the problem that they're having.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

So one of the things I thought about when you were just talking is for, for the male, that male pattern, I find just in conversation, talking to people that when you bring up like a man being emotional, they somehow equate that to, or correlate it to like women that are emotional.

Speaker C:

And it's actually very different.

Speaker C:

And it certainly doesn't mean they're not manly.

Speaker C:

Maybe.

Speaker C:

Could you expand on that a little bit?

Speaker C:

That emotional pattern?

Speaker B:

Yes, it's, you know, it is confusing to men because a lot of times when you say you're emotional, they think you're calling them a wimpy man.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

Okay now if you're in a forward curve, in your right curve, that's a man in full feminine.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

But when you're in backward curve and right curve, that's a, it's showing a dichotomy between mental and emotional.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And so you know, when, when giving clarity to men, I'm not saying that they're a wimpy man.

Speaker B:

I'm just saying that in their lifetime they were influenced more by mother, grandmother, older sister and the male influence was not present.

Speaker B:

And so then they then attract in their life more of a dominant female because they've experienced trying to be enough for the dominant female, much like myself.

Speaker B:

You know, in my early life I wanted my mom's approval, but my mom never received her approval from her father.

Speaker B:

And even more of a dysfunction was he wanted sons and my mom was the fifth daughter.

Speaker B:

And so all those ladies were impacted by proving their value by overdoing.

Speaker B:

And that's why it's so important that we get into clarity that our value is never in what we do.

Speaker B:

It's always in who we are.

Speaker B:

And who we are are amazing.

Speaker B:

We're amazing before we do not because of what we do.

Speaker B:

And we're not less amazing when we say, hey, I'm going to choose not to do it or I need help, I need help.

Speaker B:

And so, but again, understanding these mechanisms are really important because to the over defensive male, that's backward and right.

Speaker B:

When they get criticized, it triggers in them a feeling of inadequacy.

Speaker B:

And then those men lose regulation and then they react emotionally.

Speaker B:

And when that occurs is craziness can occur.

Speaker B:

Occur.

Speaker B:

Right, right.

Speaker B:

Because they're not able to regulate their emotion.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

And they just say lots of things that they might not even realize later that they've actually said.

Speaker C:

Like, I feel like if someone recorded them, they almost.

Speaker C:

Like it almost would actually help them.

Speaker C:

Like, because I feel like they don't actually know what they're saying.

Speaker B:

No, because if you're.

Speaker B:

If you're in right curvature, it's a male, you're coming from a feminine influence.

Speaker B:

So you're seeing your life through a female dysfunction pattern.

Speaker C:

Men that, if you say that to most men, they're like, like, it's like, no way.

Speaker C:

Like, like, they.

Speaker C:

I think that it's hard for them to grasp that.

Speaker B:

And I don't find that to be the case.

Speaker B:

In most cases, when I bring that up to men, I say, oh, well, this indicates that in your early life, you were more present with a female than a male, and the male was more absent or obscure, and the female was more present and dominant in your reality.

Speaker B:

And they're like, oh, y.

Speaker B:

You know, my mom was there.

Speaker B:

I have four older sisters.

Speaker B:

Whatever it is.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

Could it be that I'm saying it to some?

Speaker C:

Like, that maybe I'm.

Speaker C:

I'm maybe saying to my brother, and it's different and they're not receiving it in the right way.

Speaker C:

Maybe if.

Speaker C:

If it was coming from you, because.

Speaker B:

It would be different.

Speaker B:

Because their pattern wants approval.

Speaker C:

If I'm pointing out where they're falling short.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That is just like someone else telling another female, telling them what they Is not good enough.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So I. I find that most men, because they are right, a lot of men are right leaning.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

That is emotion.

Speaker B:

That is sensitivity.

Speaker B:

It gets caught up in unreasonable expectation.

Speaker B:

And if our program is, if you do it, do it, son.

Speaker B:

If you do it, do it right.

Speaker B:

And then our belief is, when I do it right, someone's going to tell me how great I am.

Speaker B:

And then that never comes.

Speaker B:

And the opposite comes.

Speaker B:

Someone tells you that what you did isn't great at all, and you're giving your best intention to it.

Speaker B:

And now it's triggering in you that, oh, my God, I'm giving my best, and I'm being told it's not good enough.

Speaker B:

You know, these triggers are really important to get a handle on and understanding.

Speaker B:

You know, we'd have less people in prison if they learned how to regulate emotion.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And regulating motion or words.

Speaker B:

How to realize that raising our voice is not the answer.

Speaker B:

You know, if you want to be heard, lower your tone.

Speaker B:

You want to not be heard, raise your tone.

Speaker C:

Right, Right.

Speaker B:

So when you want someone to hear you, don't come from an authoritative tone because that then is something emotes people, they want to run from it, not run towards it.

Speaker B:

It's a pain, pleasure thing.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know, people want pleasure and people don't want pain.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So if we can help them to understand these mechanisms, which I'm gifted at, that I'm gifted at helping people understand things from a different level.

Speaker B:

And then I'm really gifted at helping both those patterns understand that the true growth, it's not in the adjustment.

Speaker B:

I'm a really good adjuster, really good at unlocking pain.

Speaker B:

But if you leave the office and you don't have tools to help you, you're going to go right back into a program.

Speaker B:

You're going to go right back into a pain pattern.

Speaker B:

So my job is to give every person awareness and sometimes I do that by sitting them in the waiting room.

Speaker B:

And sometimes I, most people, I just sit on the table, I start breaking it down because, you know, like I had eight new patients on Saturday.

Speaker B:

Well, that's.

Speaker B:

And then I had a whole bunch of people that had a problem.

Speaker B:

They needed to be coached.

Speaker B:

So it's like, how much time do you have?

Speaker B:

I have like five minutes to get to make an impact on a life, to help to reframe where they are and help to give them a tool moving forward so they can really regain the life that they've always, you know, wanted, but they didn't even know how to get there.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

That's a good place to stop.

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Speaker C:

Welcome back.

Speaker C:

So let's talk about the, the physical pain that a patient has as it relates to the message it could be giving them.

Speaker C:

How do you help them articulate what that is and, and does it take multiple visits or do you think you can impart that in, in a first visit?

Speaker B:

I go right into it, as a rule, people are coming.

Speaker B:

So many people have read my reviews, so they're conscious that I am interpreting pain and I am wanting to give them the message so they have clarity, so they have power over that pain pattern.

Speaker B:

Because in truth, if I get hurt in my life and I deny that hurt, then chances are I'm going to have pain.

Speaker B:

So something could happen, you know, at an event, someone could say something that was hurtful.

Speaker B:

If I personalize that and then I internalize that, maybe the next day I'm in some acute pain that is just overwhelming.

Speaker B:

So I really see that pain directly relates to hurt.

Speaker B:

That's denied.

Speaker B:

And as we learn to see things multi generationally, we start realizing that when people transfer a wound, it's not personal.

Speaker B:

And when we get to that level of clarity, we'll have less people suffering in pain.

Speaker B:

Because so many people want to take personal a projection of a wounded person.

Speaker B:

But that wound transfer happened way before they even knew the person.

Speaker B:

So, so I look at pain quickly and I've done this work a long time.

Speaker B:

And so when someone comes in and they're like, oh, I can't walk, I have lower back pain.

Speaker B:

And I get a lot of men, they have right lower back pain and they have right shoulder pain.

Speaker B:

And I start talking to them about, okay, well, this indicates more of a female influence in your childhood.

Speaker B:

But as a result, you most likely attracted a woman that's more comfortable and masculine.

Speaker B:

And what you're wanting from them is validation, encouragement, approval and love.

Speaker B:

But what you're getting from them, it's the projection of what the father didn't do for them.

Speaker B:

And then it's the expectation is that the partner should do what the parent didn't do.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker B:

How crazy is that?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And so we see this in the amount of relationships that fail.

Speaker B:

Are they failing because they worked on their health?

Speaker B:

Each person worked on their health.

Speaker B:

They learned to be healthier within them, they worked on their wounds and then they attracted.

Speaker B:

And so they come from a healthier plate or have they never worked on their wounds and they're attracting from an unhealthy place.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And so I have a lot of men that come in, they have more dominant wives that have father trauma.

Speaker B:

They are more comfortable, masculine.

Speaker B:

The men want validation from the woman that was never validated, which is a fantasy.

Speaker B:

And other than in the fantasy phase and a fantasy phase, early time of a relationship, oh, I want to make you happy, so I'm going to fulfill this need.

Speaker B:

But when the fantasy phase wears off, I'm going to project onto you my wound, and I'm going to make it your responsibility to heal that.

Speaker B:

And it never gets healed because it's not a wound with the partner, it's a wound before the partner.

Speaker C:

So when you have a male come in and you give him this awareness, what's like the dialogue that they can have?

Speaker C:

You know, it may not be that day or maybe it's in the following days.

Speaker C:

What's the dialogue they can have with, say, their wife that would open up the, you know, the, the dialogue between them in terms of, like, shifting that in the relationship because obviously the, the woman's in her pattern.

Speaker C:

And that pattern that may have just triggered something in the male, which is why he's having pain coming to the chiropractor, you know, because someone might be like, oh, wow.

Speaker C:

Like, you know, they may go home and not know how to verb.

Speaker C:

Verbally articulate what you've just told them without obviously triggering the woman.

Speaker C:

What's something they could say?

Speaker C:

Like, you know, like, I, I saw the chiropractor today and he gave me some interesting information.

Speaker C:

What would that dialogue look like between the two?

Speaker B:

Well, that's very much it.

Speaker B:

You know, I, I came to this guy, he didn't know anything about me, and he read my life, he discussed with me exactly what stressors were taking place in my life.

Speaker B:

And oh my gosh, it just was amazing because it was like, he's living in my home.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And so, and not that you're, you're.

Speaker C:

Not just to clarify, because people sometimes think like, like psychic, but this is not.

Speaker C:

Have nothing to do with.

Speaker B:

Well, it does have something to do with it.

Speaker B:

It's not that I'm psychic.

Speaker B:

I'm intuitive.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And, but I'm more of a scientist than I am, you know, a psychic.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

But it's so funny.

Speaker B:

I, I was asked to work a women's day by the pool party.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I went in and I work it with all these ladies.

Speaker B:

I was only male invited.

Speaker B:

And I have this lady who was married to this famous neurologist, and she had this wrist problem.

Speaker B:

Right wrist problem.

Speaker B:

And so I started breaking that down.

Speaker B:

And then the rest of the day I heard this lady tell, you need to go, you know, talk to this guy.

Speaker B:

He's the best psychic I've ever met in my life.

Speaker B:

He knew exactly about what was going on.

Speaker B:

And so, you know, it's interesting how people can get confused on that.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker B:

But when you look at standing and seated, front and side view, full spine Images, image size, 14 inches wide by 36 inches in length.

Speaker B:

You look at enough patterns, you begin to understand these mechanisms that are playing out in all of our relationships.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

But the key element is to one, teach them that it's not personal.

Speaker B:

The wound is before them.

Speaker B:

I'll say, oh, well, did she have an unhealthy relationship with her father?

Speaker B:

Or it's the relationship with her father healthy?

Speaker B:

And they'll, oh, well, it's not a healthy relationship.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Because that's what I'm conveying.

Speaker B:

There is a story before the projection.

Speaker B:

Always.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

There always is.

Speaker B:

So people transfer from wound, not health.

Speaker B:

And so with these men, I read them, they're blown away.

Speaker B:

The right, say, lower back pain case.

Speaker B:

And of course, why are they in pain?

Speaker B:

Because they get hurt by the woman that's more comfortable being verbal, critical, critical and authoritative.

Speaker B:

And what do they do with it?

Speaker B:

They internalize their vulnerability.

Speaker B:

They deny the hurt that they're experiencing in that moment.

Speaker B:

And then the next day they wake up and they can't walk.

Speaker C:

So is the hurt in that moment because they personalized her projection?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

People think that when someone projects rejection or criticism or transfers inadequacy, that it's about them.

Speaker B:

And that's the greatest problem we face, because it's not ever about the person it gets transferred onto.

Speaker B:

There's a womb prior.

Speaker B:

And if it's a woman that is more comfortable being verbal, authoritative, and she can't lock down when she gets upset, she can't regulate her words.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know, I've experienced it myself more times than I could ever count.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

But once we give clarity to people, their pain goes away.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So someone comes in, they can't even walk, and then I break down why they're in pain and what happened and how you have this fantasy that this person who came from wound and generational wound is going to know the difference and give you what you need, and you know, it's just not true.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

So that's why I always say to people, let's restore our wounds.

Speaker B:

Let's, you know, resolve our wounds in ourselves, and let's keep that out of it.

Speaker B:

Like, it's not someone else's job to fix the wounds inside of me.

Speaker B:

It's my job to do that work.

Speaker B:

Nor is it my job to fix the wounds inside of you.

Speaker B:

And if those wounds are before me, then, you know, taking personal a projection is probably where we can.

Speaker B:

Instead of taking it personal, what do we do?

Speaker B:

Hit it with active denial.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

You know, when we look at it, spiritually speaking, when fear comes at us, scripture talks about putting on the full armor of God.

Speaker B:

And the reason for that is the world's coming at you in fear, not love.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

If the world comes at you in kindness and mercy and humility and love and encouragement and validation and you know, armoring is not that important, but that's not where the world comes at us from.

Speaker B:

So we're armored.

Speaker B:

And what's that telling us?

Speaker B:

It's saying, hey, I'm going to hit that projection with active denial.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

Not passive.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

It's like, oh, you're denied.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

I'm denying this projection because I know that's a wound that occurred before you even met me and it's not my responsibility.

Speaker B:

Resolve it.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

So denial is powerful.

Speaker B:

It's so power.

Speaker B:

But when giving people great awareness and then they choose to deny it, well, now they're setting up even bigger problems.

Speaker B:

Like you take a woman that over pushes over does and you're bringing that to her attention.

Speaker B:

Hey, you're in a 2 inch left short leg because your mental mind is dictating your physical body.

Speaker B:

And what your mind's telling you is you always need to do more.

Speaker B:

And your mind says that if you don't do it, no one's going to do it.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Then what we're going to do is have a person who has autoimmune and chronic illness.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Because the issues that come up are examples to them that, hey, what you're needing to learn is to operate efficiently.

Speaker B:

What you're needing to learn is how to save energy in everything you do.

Speaker B:

What you're needing to understand is how valuable you are before, before you do it.

Speaker B:

And if you are a person that's accustomed taking on all the load, then your journey is to say no to things.

Speaker B:

Your journey is to, you know, like someone says, hey, can you do this?

Speaker B:

And no.

Speaker B:

Or your journey would be, hey, I'm overwhelmed, I'm feeling overloaded.

Speaker B:

I really need help.

Speaker B:

And if this is going to be done, then I need help from others.

Speaker B:

Because women in the masculinity need to learn to go into vulnerability if they want to be healthy.

Speaker B:

And if they want to get sick, then overdo, over push.

Speaker B:

Let your mental mind dictate your physical body.

Speaker B:

Constantly deny your exhaustion.

Speaker B:

And where is that wound?

Speaker B:

There's a wound.

Speaker B:

Why would someone overdo?

Speaker B:

You know, kids, there's a wound there.

Speaker B:

Right, right.

Speaker B:

And as we grow in our life, we learn like, where I'm in my life right now, I am efficient, I save energy with every single person.

Speaker B:

And recently I had like 52 new patients.

Speaker B:

I did an event have 52 new patients in one day and I treated them three times.

Speaker B:

And then the supporting team and I did about 170 treatments.

Speaker B:

I get to the end of the day and I'm so wired, I'm not tired at all.

Speaker B:

And how can that even be possible?

Speaker B:

I'm a 63 year old man treating 100, doing 170 visits.

Speaker B:

Because one, I don't tie into outcome.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

And two, it's all intention and it's always about saving energy and it's always about empowering someone else to, you know, actually do some work so they can really see how they play a role in their life and health.

Speaker C:

Do you think that that isn't something that men have an easier time with than women?

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

Saving energy or no, no men today.

Speaker B:

The average man today is more men are right curvature, but then you study their leg balance and they're heavily short in their left leg.

Speaker B:

So more men today are self driven.

Speaker B:

And why are they self driven?

Speaker B:

Because of negation.

Speaker B:

Because they need a validation.

Speaker B:

They got negated and they get confused in that they don't even know when it's good enough.

Speaker B:

You go to that with a lot of people and you ask them that question, when is your best good enough?

Speaker B:

And they're like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

Well, that cannot be the answer.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it can't be the answer.

Speaker B:

What is?

Speaker B:

Let me say what the answer is.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

The answer is every time I give my best intention to what I do, that should be good enough for myself.

Speaker B:

But we're programmed to look for outside approval for wounded people.

Speaker B:

Peers, parents, coaches, employers, you know, the list goes on and on and on.

Speaker B:

Our programming, if you do it, do it Right is setting us up to look for approval from wounded people that haven't even learned to give it to themselves.

Speaker B:

So as we grow into this awareness through this podcast, people are going to become more emotionally intelligent.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker B:

And in that growth within them, they will not take personal projection like they always have.

Speaker B:

Prior.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And that's what this is about.

Speaker B:

This is about helping people to transform their life and do things differently than how people prior have done the same things for generations.

Speaker C:

We'll see you next time.

Speaker A:

This is a broadcast of the Adjusting youg Life podcast, produced by Adjusted Life Media.

Speaker A:

All information contained in this episode and all other content provided on this channel is for informational and entertainment purposes only.

Speaker A:

This content is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.

Speaker A:

If you or someone you know is experiencing a medical emergency, please contact your local emergency services.

Speaker A:

Dr. Steven M. Ward, D.C. is a board certified doctor of chiropractic medicine licensed in the State of California, county of Los Angeles.

Speaker A:

The Adjusting youg Life podcast is written and produced by Executive Producer Jamie Knapp and co produced by Kennedy hall and Dr. Steven Ward as Dr. Steve.

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