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“It’s OK Not to Be OK” – And Other Thought Limiting Clichés
Episode 29611th November 2025 • You Are Not A Frog • Dr Rachel Morris
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Normal responses to abnormal working conditions don’t mean you’re broken – they mean you’re human, and you’re dealing with a lot. Here’s some useful, actionable coping strategies that go above and beyond acknowledging when it’s OK to not be OK.

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In the doctors' mess at 11 o'clock on a Monday morning, one of us would always

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be in tears, and it would've been the one of us who started our on call at 8:30

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AM on the Saturday and probably hadn't had any sleep at all over the weekend.

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And so by the post tape ward round on Monday, we were broken, we were finished.

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Now, this was, goodness me, I dunno how many years ago, nearly 30 years ago,

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when we were still doing 120 hour weeks.

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It was expected.

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We knew that after a shift like that, we would feel absolutely terrible.

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But the other night I had dinner with a good friend who's the

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clinical lead in a busy hospital.

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He told me that things are the worst that they have ever been at work,

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and he was feeling pretty broken.

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He'd been busy trying to hold everybody together.

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He'd been asked to get his colleagues to see more patients, to do more activity

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and save money at the same time.

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And he said to me, oh yeah, I mean, I know, I know.

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It's okay not to be okay, but I just sort of keep wondering why I

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can't cope, but I'm sort of kicking myself for, for not doing all the

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things that I knew I should do.

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And I said to him, you know what?

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In the situation that you are in at the moment, frankly, if you were

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okay, there would be something wrong.

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Because if you are working in healthcare right now and you are not

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really exhausted or anxious or on the edge, perhaps you are in denial

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or maybe you're just a psychopath.

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Because we know things are, are really bad.

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There's so much uncertainty.

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We don't have the funding for things that we need, and people are asked

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constantly to be doing more with less.

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My friend, well, he felt ashamed for being broken as though feeling

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broken was some sort of moral failing.

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And then he felt stupid and even more shame for perhaps not doing the work

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that would stop him from feeling broken.

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And it's this shame that breaks us, believing that we shouldn't find it hard

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and that we can always sort ourselves out.

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So in this quick dip, I'm gonna look at that cliche.

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It's okay not to be okay.

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I don't think it's really that helpful.

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You know, sometimes it's not okay to be okay, because that cliche, it's okay

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not to be okay, I don't think really works for us very well, for all sorts

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of reasons, and it is what I've heard called a thought limiting cliche.

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And I wanna flip it on its head.

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You know what?

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It's not okay to be okay.

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'cause when things are genuinely awful, feeling fine is a really weird response.

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And feeling tired and sad and angry, that is the human response.

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So feeling bad doesn't mean you are failing.

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It just means that you are actually feeling what's going on.

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And what's more, it does mean that your nervous system is responding

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exactly how it's supposed to respond and pretending that you can cope

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with it all isn't clever or noble, it's just denial half of the time.

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And so if anybody is coping perfectly fine in a really, really toxic system,

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either they've completely numbed out or maybe they're not human.

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Maybe they are in fact a robot.

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So let's stop gaslighting ourselves and telling ourselves we should be okay when

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everything is literally going to shit.

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This is a You Are Not a Frog quick dip, a tiny taster of the kinds of things we

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talk about on our full podcast episodes.

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I've chosen today's topic to give you a helpful boost in the time it

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takes to have a cup of tea so you can return to whatever else you're

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up to feeling energized and inspired.

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For more tools, tips, and insights to help you thrive at work, don't

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forget to subscribe to You Are Not a Frog wherever you get your podcasts.

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Now that phrase, it's okay not to be okay.

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It can work really well for some people, but if you work in healthcare,

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it sometimes grates a little bit, and this is why it backfires.

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It is true, but it just seems to trivialize things.

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It's the thought, the limiting cliche.

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If someone says it to you, you can't go anywhere else with it.

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But in healthcare it feels a little bit naive.

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'Cause actually we know it's really important to be okay, especially

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when you've got these life or death decisions and somebody's

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life literally depends on you.

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And also I think doctors, we have been groomed to just

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normalize, not feeling okay.

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You know, we've been groomed to override exhaustion and pain, so sometimes we

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don't actually know we're not okay.

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We think that what we are feeling, it's just normal.

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Yes, it's common, but it's probably not healthy.

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There's all this stuff that goes into our identity and admitting that we're

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struggling threatens that identity a little bit, particularly when we

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have got that superhero fallacy, the belief that actually I can carry on

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longer than everybody else because I'm a doctor, so why wouldn't I?

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The other problem with, it's okay not to be okay, it gives you

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permission, but doesn't then give you anything to do with that.

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So it opens up all that emotion to go, yeah, I'm not okay, but there's

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then no safe structure to explore that or to go anywhere with it.

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And it can be seen as really tokenistic.

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You know, you might put it on a poster, stick it in the staff room, but you read

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it and go, yeah, well it's okay not to be okay, so what are you gonna do about it?

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Right.

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We know we are not okay.

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You know, we're not okay.

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And that seems to be okay with you, right?

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And when we did our survey into why doctors and other senior healthcare

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professionals didn't seek help for burnout, one of the main reasons was

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because they knew it would be futile when they'd tried it before nothing happened,

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nothing changed, they got no good advice.

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end up thinking, well, what's the point?

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And slogans like that, well, they're missing a lot, aren't they?

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They're missing depth and they're missing kindness, and

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they're missing understanding.

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We don't need thought limiting slogans.

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We need action and we need mindset changes.

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And so for many doctors, the message just lands us we know you're drowning.

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Please don't make a fuss.

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And what they really need is you're allowed to be human.

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We'll help you find a way out of this.

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So instead of, it's okay not to be okay, it's probably, it's

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understandable not to be okay, and it would be really strange in this insane

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toxic system to feel totally fine.

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And that shifts the emotions out of this shame, oh, I'm, I'm not okay and

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yes, I am feeling shame about it, but, but that's okay to actually dignity and

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that, you know what, this is a normal response that anybody would have if they

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were put into this working environment.

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So what do we actually do when things are the worst they've ever been right now?

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Well, we can't change the systems that we work in.

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Well, we can maybe change them a little bit, but our, our little

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bit won't change the entire system.

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We need to stay in our zone of power.

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We need to look at what we can control, and mostly that is ourselves.

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So I think we need to zoom in and then we're gonna zoom out again.

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So let's start by zooming in.

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One thing you can do is tell yourself, I am safe right now.

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Even if the system isn't, we need to stop free-living everything that

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might go wrong, and we need to start recognizing that right now, right here.

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I am safe.

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We know that the system might not be totally safe.

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The rotor and the workload certainly aren't, but you are safe in your

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breath that you're taking right now.

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Your body's alive, it's breathing, but your nervous system, it

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doesn't know that it's constantly scanning the horizon for disaster.

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So you've got this anticipatory stress.

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Mark Twain says, I'm an old man.

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I've known many troubles.

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Most of them didn't happen, and I did a whole quick dip on

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uncertainty a few weeks ago.

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But we are constantly living in next month's catastrophe.

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What if we lose yet another consultant?

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What if I'm the only partner left standing?

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What if we have to hand back our contract?

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What if I make a mistake?

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Now, what your amygdala is doing is trying to prevent this future pain by suffering

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it in advance and trying to control everything which we just can't control.

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Now there is an ancient Christian scripture that says, now I'm paraphrasing

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don't worry about tomorrow, tomorrow has enough worries of its own.

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Your job today is the little bit that you can touch today.

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So it's the people in front of you, the patience, the conversation you're about to

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have, the choice you're gonna make about looking after yourself when you go home.

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But so often we stop looking at what we can do and we are looking at the future,

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most of which we can't do anything about.

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And I'm not saying don't strategize and don't plan, but pre reliving the

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worry and the anxiety is not useful.

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The next thing we can do is stop taking that second arrow.

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Stop prosecuting yourself for being a human being.

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So when we're prosecuting ourself, we are blaming ourselves, we're

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shaming ourselves of going, oh, you idiot, why did you do that?

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So there's an old Buddhist principle about the second arrow.

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Yeah, the first area you take is the thing that's happened, like the exhaustion of

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the dreadful shift you've had today, or you know, the pain of your stubbed toe.

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The second arrow you take is the one you do to yourself.

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Oh, I was so stupid.

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Why didn't I see that chair in the way and I stubbed my toe in it?

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Or, that load was awful.

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I, I just didn't manage my shift very well.

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I'm so stupid.

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Why couldn't I cope with it?

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Well, there's this, all this unnecessary suffering.

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You are beating yourself up about it.

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And doctors and senior leaders in healthcare, and people in

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high stakes, high stress jobs.

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Well, we are Olympic level second arrow shooters.

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So like if we are running late because of the workload, we're going, oh, I'm unsafe.

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I can't possibly do this.

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If we are feeling exhausted, we say, I'm weak.

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Why can't I cope?

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What's wrong with me?

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If we say no, because we're at capacity, we say, oh, I'm so selfish.

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How could I say that when I'm supposed to be a caring person?

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Or if I accidentally snap at someone?

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'cause I'm at the end of my tether, I tell myself I'm absolutely awful.

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I'm a terrible boss, i'm a terrible colleague.

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We are so harsh on ourselves and we tell ourselves that we are failing.

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You are not failing.

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You are showing a normal human stress response to an abnormal workload.

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Let me say that again.

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You are showing a normal human stress response to an abnormal workload,

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and the suffering is coming from you deciding that your normal response

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means that you are broken, as opposed to, it just means I'm human, 'cause

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of course, look what I'm coping with.

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And when things go wrong, I really tried to say to myself, well,

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of course you reacted like that, Rachel, look at what just happened,

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look at what you're coping with.

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Now, it doesn't mean I don't try and change my behavior, but it does mean I

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don't take that second arrow and beat myself up the whole time about things.

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And when things are the worst they've ever been, we need to stop carrying

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everything and start caring instead.

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Because doctors, senior leaders, we have this over responsibility issue.

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It's one of the overwhelm amplifiers.

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We feel responsible for everybody and everything, even when it

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is well out of our control.

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If we can't do anything about it, you can't be responsible for it.

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Even if your boss tells you you are, or the ICB tells you you are.

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In reality, if it's not under your control, you can't be responsible.

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so you can care deeply without carrying,

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Now, of course, if we go really meta on this, you, you're not in control of what

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other people expect you to do either.

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You're not in control of their expectations of their ideas.

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You are only in control of what you do.

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So stuff that is outta your control, we have to just accept it.

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We can care deeply about it.

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We can't carry it.

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because literally we can't do anything about it.

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And in healthcare, we feel really frustrated about that stuff

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that's outside our control, but we also feel guilty, even though.

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It's nothing to do with us, it wasn't our fault and we can't do anything about it.

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Again, we've done another quick dip on that.

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It's all about feeling guilt ish, and many of us tell ourselves that this

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over responsibility, that's that's real leadership that's stepping up,

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but actually real wise leadership knows where the power and the control ends,

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where you can't affect any more change.

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And just saying I can't do anything about it.

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And leaving it sounds quite trivial, but honestly, when I've done that,

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it's been a weight off my shoulders.

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So stop carrying everything.

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You can keep caring about it, but if it's not yours to carry, put it down.

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And the next small thing that you can do right now is to start

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your emergency care protocol.

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Now, I don't use the word self-care anymore.

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I generally use the word necessary care, but this is emergency care.

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This isn't just fluffy woowoo, oh wellbeing.

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You know, look after yourself.

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Put your own oxygen mask on first.

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This is like proper this is an emergency.

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Now you need to take note, ' cause this is exactly the time where you

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need to absolutely max out on helping yourself have the resources to cope.

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So that is canceling something guilt free.

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Cancel something that you know just gonna overextend you.

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Connect with your people.

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Connect with people that you like, that you know will make you feel a lot better.

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You need more rest right now, not less rest.

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So don't be tempted to just keep working and working and working, because that

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will be completely counterproductive.

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And you need to move your body.

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You need to get active.

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Just get outside, get into nature, and feed your soul with whatever you can.

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Whatever floats your boat, go do it.

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As long as it's legal and ethical, go and do the thing

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that really makes you feel good.

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And these things are doable.

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These things are within your zone of power.

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And then finally, we need to talk about hope, because hope is one of

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those things that I think just goes when things are really, really bad and

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you can't see them getting any better.

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And we need some hope that's actually realistic, not just the motivational

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positive thinking type hope.

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Because when everything feels really, really unfixable, you

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don't need blind optimism.

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What you need is something I'm gonna call grace.

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Now I'm not talking about religious grace.

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I'm talking about real kindness that meets you where you are, that doesn't

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require anything of you, no conditions.

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And when you stop fighting against yourself, that's what you'll find.

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So when you can breathe out and you can actually take on board the fact

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that you don't have to earn your right to rest, you don't need to deserve a

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break to take one, and you are allowed to fail, you're allowed to muck up.

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And you're allowed to be a work in progress.

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So this is about kindness to yourself without conditions.

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Doctors, people work in healthcare.

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You've spent your whole career extending grace to other people, to patients, to

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colleagues and families, treating them with dignity, giving them what they need,

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even when they might not deserve it.

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They might not have done anything to deserve it.

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In fact, they might have done things that put them in that situation, but you

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still extend them grace and kindness.

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So you do that for other people, but you hold yourself to really high

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standards that you can't possibly meet.

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So realistic hope is not just pretending that everything is fine and okay, it's

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remembering that you are all right even in this swirling mess of what's

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going on, and it's remembering that you still deserve to rest, to connect

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with people, to, to live and enjoy life, even outside of what's going on.

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And you can even enjoy your work, even in a really, really difficult

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situation where things keep going wrong, and you're held to account

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for decisions that aren't yours, for targets that nobody could ever meet.

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And it's this, this grace and kindness, that's the antidote to shame, recognizing

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that you are not broken, you are human, and you are worthy of care, not just

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when you've done a brilliant job, not when you finally fix a system and

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fix this mess, but right now, when you are right in the middle of it.

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So let's take a moment and zoom, write out.

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Now I am a huge fan of Rob Bell and his podcast, the Rob Cast, and he's been

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on You Are Not a Frog a while back now.

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And another thing that my mate Rob, as we call him in my house, uh, says

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that you are part of something bigger.

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You are perspective is often what really, really saves us when we feel

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like responsible for the whole world and the weight just feels really crushing.

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Well, you are part of a much bigger story, one that's still being written.

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And so whatever you are facing this impossible workload, the

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horrible complaint, the restructure, the loss, this will pass.

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Not because it doesn't matter, but because things change, they move on.

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And every crisis you've been through, you've survived it.

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Things have shifted, things have passed.

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And, and right now it might feel endless.

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You've stood right inside it.

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But let's zoom out, like this is just one chapter of the whole book.

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And I think sometimes that perspective brings hope.

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I mean, Adam Brooks, our local hospital, has a massive sign.

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At the entrance.

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It just says it will pass, whatever it is.

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It will pass.

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And you are part of the story of humanity.

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And when we think about world events and everything that goes on, sometimes

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it just feels all too much to bear.

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But everything, this is all part of the story.

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And maybe that's a perspective that brings hope, knowing that you are

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part of something really vast, really continuous, and you were never,

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ever, ever meant to hold it all.

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Just your bit of the story just for this one moment in time.

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So if you are feeling broken right now, that doesn't make

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you weak, it makes you awake.

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The goal isn't to be okay when things really aren't okay.

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The goal is to just stop fighting your own humanity.

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We are all part of this, this bigger story.

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Nobody knows how it's gonna end, but you are safe right now.

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And you deserve rest.

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You deserve love and kindness just because you are a human being, not because of

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anything you've done, anything you've achieved, or even what your job title is.

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Nobody knows how things are gonna end, But you can choose to play your

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small part right here, right now.

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And maybe there's somebody who needs to hear this.

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So share this with someone who's still trying to be superhuman in a

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system that's working against them.

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So remind them they're not broken, they're just human.

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And for me, that's where hope begins.

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