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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum time podcast with mike and laurent mike
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is away on assignment in new york it is friday march 18th in this episode we
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have a full week of football it was played from tuesday till the whole week
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everton are saved by a zip tie more on that in a minute and liverpool are now
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edged to win the title title but first
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i'm gonna tell everyone a story so we are called the squeaky bum time
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podcast it is odd people don't know what squeaky bum time is it's hard to say it is a
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odd word it is a mouthful i don't know if it's seo worthy anyway especially americans are like
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what the hell are you talking about with squeaky bum time it has a very very
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colorful and interesting history so we today on this uh st patrick's day into march
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18th have the 19th anniversary of squeaky bun time squeaky bum time on
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this day in:1:19
the great manager sir alex ferguson of manchester united and of glasgow a very
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thick accented man was doing a regular post-game press
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conference or pre-game doesn't matter and was telling a story about a very tight title race between
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um manchester united and listen for it kids arsenal arsenal used
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to be the big challenging team and he's telling a story about it being
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this time of year it's now february march in the premier league season and one of the things that happened or used
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to happen within the press rooms of uh these press conferences so for those
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of you who don't know in the premier league you don't really have access to players we don't get post-game
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interviews you don't get anything basically the press gets to interview the coach of the
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team twice per game once before the game once after the game and that press conference is split in half between the
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pre-embargo and post embargo so you get four pieces of content four days of
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content that you get to write about anyway it's weird uh i don't know how they manage it but it doesn't matter
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that's why uh things like um uh what guys wear is important and what
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they say and social media has changed everything anyway that's not important one of the people one of the journalists
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in the pool who's listening to the um press conference
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was in charge of transcribing everything that was said for the rest of the people
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this is a time before everything was recorded this was it well not too bad i mean they had recorders but it was nice
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to have it printed out and somebody would have the transcription and share it with the rest of the the rest of the
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players following the pool so there'd be one guy whose job it was at every press conference to write everything down okay
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where does squeaky bum time come from in the throes of these interviews
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alex ferguson refers to the tightness of the race as and this is of course legendary
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whether this is true or not doesn't matter as squeeze your bum time
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squeeze your bum time which makes more sense than squeaky bum time because it
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requires a chair or farting but squeeze your bum time makes more sense and in
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the deep glaswegian accent of uh alex ferguson
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squeeze your bum became squeaky bum and all the press guys put it in their
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articles around that time and hence our podcast has a name
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squeaky bum time it is actually in a dictionary attributed to alex ferguson
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because it was not a word that was used it was a mistake it's squeeze your bum time but it became
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squeaky bum time and now we live in said squeaky bum time isn't that fun
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squeaky bum time squeeze your bum time thank you alex ferguson now we're gonna
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go through the scores there are three competitions we have to cover some more than others we will start with the
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premier league there were two games the first there were oh sorry there were three games jesus christ
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first tottenham beat my beloved brighton brighton r fading harry kane sets the
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record for goal away goals wow that's impressive then arsenal
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at home oh lose to liverpool two-nil but it was
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they were gallant they did not get the doors blown off them but liverpool are now charging and hard charging and we're
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gonna talk more about them in a minute and then today today everton pull one out of their ass
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they win one nil they're down a man but they got a reprieve in the game a
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young man protesting the drilling of oil around the world zip tied himself to the
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goal so the game had an additional 14 minutes of added time
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and alex iwobi from seamus coleman and their uh down nick calvert lewin get the
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winner and everton stave off a surefire elimination and they are not
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going to get relegated maybe what else do we have we have champions league scorers what crazy we have
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manchester united losing to atletico madrid one nil in a housing game
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atletico pulled out all the stops to ruin manchester united's day they frankly weren't worth it they were going
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into this game 1-1 atletico were better in the first leg so men united are bounced bounced bounced they have
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nothing to play for and the venerable eye acts of amsterdam are bounced by benfica they also
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uh are unfortunately kicked out but we have to say hello to our friends benfica
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have our friends a young vertoggon of spurs and nico otamendi of manchester city the centurions play the backline
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and they hold off iax and do a smash and grab win one nil they advance into the round of eight
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villarreal our friend good evening good evening from unai emery he bounces
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villarreal three nil it's closer than that they go through 4-1 on aggregate so juve's gone
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and chelsea their troublesome oligarch funded team on the skids living
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from day to day we don't know if they're going to disappear beat french champions lil 4-1 they had a
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scare lil scored a goal early but chelsea go through on a wonderful goal from
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christiane not o but pulasek okay
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that's the scores that's the important stuff i have one more score the venerable and amazing west ham
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united advance in the europa league against sevilla all along with barcelona and a couple
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other teams uh rangers so the europa league the the junior league but i'm
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emphasizing west ham because this is the biggest west ham result since since the 60s west ham go through 2-1
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after being down a goal from the home leg from the away leg in extra time yarmolenko our ukrainian
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friend who cried and we talked about scores another goal and the saints and
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the glory of ukraine is being carried on by yarmolenko and west ham continue wow
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west ham put it out there so they're doing great fun times for them but we go
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through the list first big thing we've got to talk about is liverpool's result and narrative
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shifting win against arsenal as you know
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i am no fan of the liverpool they me off
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they're really good they scare me i'm petrified of them
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and they get a little bit luckier than city do city are very much a neurotic
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team my team play manchester city played neurotic trying to control everything so
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i guess if you think about it this way there think about your bosses at work there's one who's like super duper
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detail oriented and and does everything to perfection and there's no i or t uncrossed everything's
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planned out and perfect and they release amazing products and then there's the inspirational
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person who drives people to their best and the team rallies around them and
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that's just an amazing thing so there's two ways to go about having these incredible teams one is pep guardiola's
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technocratic perfection and drilling and then the other side is jurgen klopp's
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insistent cajoling loving caring and hugging and saying you know what you can
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do a nut you can do ten more you can do five more you can make that play better
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and liverpool right now grab the
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bull by the horns narrative shifts city and liverpool
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both on 29 games played one point separates them
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it's like:10:06
liverpool have five strikers and city have none and um
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liverpool have the better goal difference so they're actually a bit they're actually a they might actually be a
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better team this time and i i think fundamentally i would agree with that
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uh i think they have more depth um they're right there on xg against
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um it's very close 45 to 44. it's virtually
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these two teams are about as even as you possibly could be
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uh liverpool right now have the advantage because they signed a player in january in luis
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diaz and city didn't do anything in january so there's a little bit of
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momentum liverpool came through the african cup of nations without their players and
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they sustained their attack so you could make the argument that liverpool are
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actually better now that they have their whole team together and city are just living on their perfection
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this will all be decided on april 10th provided city don't drop anymore city
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did go through their full complement of um
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they did go through their full complement where they won 45 of 43 then we started dropping we had a loss
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to tottenham and then the the draw to crystal palace and then a draw to southampton so we've
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dropped points more recently while liverpool are on a nine game winning streak and may continue to win
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uh it is not inconceivable that liverpool could just carry on and pull this thing out
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liverpool did not play well against arsenal the first half to 50 minutes were poor
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uh martinelli spun trent alexander around three times
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had probably one of the most skillful runs i've ever seen alison made a mistake but then rectified
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it by saving a ball from from odegaard late in the first half
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and then minute late early in the first in the second half and then five minutes later
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liverpool got their goal from firmino who came from jota who came on and once
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the goal went in arsenal still played well but they couldn't lift themselves i think that
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that at that moment they mentally couldn't lift themselves up and liverpool were
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able to go to the bench and bring on firmino and salah for giotta
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and um i don't remember it doesn't matter so liverpool now have depth they have momentum the narrative is shifting to
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that this is liverpool's league to win nothing really separates
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our liverpool and manchester city uh liverpool have scored seven more goals
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given up two more they have the better goal difference on plus 55 city have one more loss but one more win
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so the points difference is liverpool have two draws and that's the only difference
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city have an extra loss it is tight it is close
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it is scary and like i said i think i said it probably three weeks ago the first team to drop six loses six
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points city have dropped two
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so now if
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liverpool yeah like i said first team to drop six will be the loser and uh we wait uh i'm
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not feeling good i'm not feeling confident i'm feeling scared i'm feeling worried for arsenal
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this was a great performance arsenal still can't beat teams ahead of
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them but i don't think that they have to beat teams ahead of them yet this was a big step forward for arsenal
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because they played so well especially in the first half martinelli was great
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they kept they kept
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the attack of liverpool in check they caused problems they pressed the
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emirates has never sounded louder the emirates which is the stadium that arsenal play in the emirates have never
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sounded louder the place was buzzing everything was there for them and i think had they got a goal they might
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have won this game but unfortunately they could not get the goal they needed
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and you know they did make changes in about the 67th minute later in the game
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odegaard came off for smith rowe uh saka for pepe and in ketia for lacazette but
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that was late and really the game petered out essentially towards the back half of the game
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the shots were close it was just that um allison made the saves and and and and
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ramsdell didn't uh ramsdale had a little bit of a tough game he's been great all year might be gold goalkeeper of the
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year but this is a game he's not gonna feel good about he probably his post shot uh expected
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goals was one and he gave up two so within the game within the three shots
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he gave up one more than he should have now small sample size whatever but um
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liverpool are looking really strong and um the palace draw for city really
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hurt and it does put them behind the cache there's no wiggle room there's no
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room for mistakes there are nine games to go why can't i figure this out
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yeah no 38 games there are nine games to go and you have to win them all uh you know you have to win them all
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you just cannot drop any more points at all ever never
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in the race for the top four chelsea chelsea hang on to their spot they're doing fine arsenal are on 51 men united
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are right behind them on 50 west ham on 48. arsenal still have the two games in hand but their two games in hand are
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tough and they have to play villa on saturday very tough stuff but we carry
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on through the through the from liverpool's joy at the top of the table to everton's
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maniacal incredible uh pulling out of a game
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against newcastle at home mike and i called this game as a must win i mean there's not a lot of games
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that everton has to win at this point everton are terrible they were at goodison they're playing terribly first
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half is all newcastle uh at even strength i do not love frank lampard and
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what he's up to everton somehow some way
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in this game hang on um in the first half oh i don't have all
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the i don't have the i don't have all the deep shot information yet but i would have it later
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first half i looked at the stats they were not great second half was better they had a couple shots on target in the
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first half there was a red card after a var check in the 83rd minute against ellen it was
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ridiculous it was a yellow every day i don't know why they went for a sending
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off but somewhere in the game and i have to figure out the exact minute of it
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i have to figure out the exact minute of it a young man um
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zip tied himself to the goal post
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uh wearing a t-shirt that said we have no future to you know protest fossil fuels he had
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a very in-cell look these guys clearly never hung out with uh with broads
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but um it was a crazy moment
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and it did change the game because at that moment
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um [Music] it created an amount of time that allowed for
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everton to have 14 minutes of added time in the game iwobi
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who's much maligned never great never a good player uh just finds a way
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to get it done and everton pull out a win that they are
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desperate for i mean newcastle had 17 shots everton
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only nine um newcastle had all the possession so
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nothing is really going well for uh everton uh pickford was dropped i don't know if
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he was hurt so begovich came in seamus coleman still playing uh there were three back three
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three defenders played godfrey uh michael keane still i don't understand it mason holgate
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to corey and alain and then anthony gordon played in the middle there were some changes so gordon
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uh iwobi damari gray started uh along with charleston up front uh you know
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newcastle went with their regular group and for newcastle it's not a big deal they're doing fine they don't have a
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problem with that but for everton this is a massive win this moves them off the bottom this
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basically gives them one of the wins they need they're now on 25 a full three points
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ahead of watford on 22 and a full four points ahead of burnley who have two
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games in hand on them but those two games in hand are i mean everton have two games in hand so sorry uh everton
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have a four point lead on burnley and they both are on 27 games so they're effectively in decent shape the bottom
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three are really shaping up to be watford burnley and uh norwich sure there's nine games to go
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um but it's looking much more clear again if you can win two
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games you're out of the schneid uh norwich i think we can cut loose but to
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see burnley go down would be something interesting to see everton go down would be something interesting so everton
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lived to play another gay in a strange game where they're terrible but i think the uh the goodison park crowd kept them
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going frank lampard gets a lot of luck and he is a lucky lucky boy to be where
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he is right now so lucky for them everton hang on for the
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three down a man it was a really good goal by the way and the place went bananas now
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from historic clubs who are doing great and have a lucky moment to historic clubs who crash out agai again
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men united now going on year six without a trophy they lose to atletico
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at home uh in a game of housing i thought united were okay in the first
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half they played decently alanga had a shot that almost went in went off of all black's face but then again what we've
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been talking about with united over and over again is they cannot sustain
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games they can play a half hour okay but never a full game
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second half was worse uh and um lodi gets a goal and now united are just
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kind of seeing out the season just trying to focus on the top four
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i saw gary neville kind of say oh i think they'll make the top four but on on just hard alone he just thinks oh
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they'll make the top four because why shouldn't they make the top four
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tough run for them tough run for them but i have a big comment that i'll wait for later on in the show to talk about
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cristiano ronaldo and lionel messi uh pretty much a hot take that i stole from
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michael cox of the uh of the of the athletics so we'll see how that
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goes chelsea takes care of business against lille they reach the quarterfinals just from a champions
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league roundup the final eight are
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uh are the final eight for the champions league are real madrid
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liverpool chelsea real madrid liverpool chelsea
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manchester city villarreal
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benfica and uh uh bayern munich
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and one other team i have to figure out who the other team is oh and atletico
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so the spanish have retained their two spanish teams there's one from germany the three english teams
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united couldn't really hang on and benfica benfica will be the cannon fodder that everyone's looking
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for that's not a good team but good for them uh they should house their way in
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um so very very interesting stuff there
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for uh the champions league um the europa league i believe has a good
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group too it's it's leipzig west ham barcelona uh
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which is pretty funny but anyway yeah we can we can talk about the freaking europa league another time
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so that's fascinating we have more stuff coming up chelsea advance
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harry kane also played this week against my beloved brighton brighton have just kind of uh
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they've just kind of faded i think the dan burns so selling of dan baron has hurt them they're kind of like
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oh we're safe we're fine harry kane becomes the all-time leader in away
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goals um which is amazing uh there was a deflected goal scored it looked like it
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might have been kulashevsky's or sons but i think ramirez took a hold of it and was like i scored this goal and her
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and and spurs continue their win one lose one win one lose one they're completely
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inconsistent at this point but i don't know why but i always think
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kante's got something up his sleeve but maybe he doesn't maybe spurs are just what they are right now
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and just can't really get themselves moving too far
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but you know spurs sitting seventh they're tied with west ham
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to um on 48 they're plus nine they're
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okay they're sitting where they are they're having a good season
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uh i'm i think i had a question for mike that i wasn't sure he'd be able to answer but it's
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like who would who would you trade for would you want to be men united with an old squad that's falling apart
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and no coach or would you rather be spurs who still have harry kane and son and have kante
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in tow if you can just appease kante then won't you be able to move your team
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forward so that's an interesting thing oh my god they really let me look at the premier league
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i just need to look at the red black let's see oh yeah yeah spurs win loss loss win
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loss win win loss win so they have west ham next that's going to be a tough game for them anyway spurs
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are where they are they're doing okay uh i thought you know same same old same
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old spurs they still roll with the same group kane maura kulaszewski sun
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uh horiberg and betsan core so it looks like they're getting a little bit more of a run here doherty and regulon played
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together and he got to play his back three of romero dyer and davies the prom is dyer and
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davies are really really poor if they could find another defender that would really make a difference uh they need to
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play dire because he's such a good passer but he can't move and so they end
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up in these problems where you know they they allow shots and allow too many shots and give up too many goals while
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my beloved brighton just can't seem to get out of their way they're back to duncan duffy again
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without burn they lose a little bit of their uh lose a little bit of their crew
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they're playing lampty as a winger these days which is a little bit weird and they still can't score goals
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uh uh neil mopey the the butt wiper has uh
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has reverted back to form and my beloved brighton are hanging out where they
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belong and they are where they are okay let's just make sure we have a final
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round up of the champions league iacs are out ten hog who's been um
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slated for the manchester united job they blow a chance against benfica but
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we say hello to friends i was watching this game and i noticed hey that's jan vertonghen and nico otamendi and i mean
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when i say that benfica are not good they are not good they hang on and this
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game iacs are doing their dna they're playing they're playing they're doing
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their thing they've got halaer they've got dusantota they've got all their guys and they just can't break down um they
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just can't break down benfica and they get bounced ten hog loses i guess his
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audition to see if he's a bigger manager i'm not sure he's quite there and then our friend mr emery good evening takes
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villarreal who are seventh in la liga and beats juve juventus of turin just get bounced
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allegri they go back to zero if anything when i think about these big teams historically big the aristocracy of
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football the legacy clubs being out like uva and iax and united
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uh uh you know less less so i guess real did fine is that the super league this
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always just gives more fuel for the super league and juventus will be clamoring to get out of its league and
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find a new revenue stream because it's just like uh this is no fun uh speaking of revenue
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streams we should probably touch on chelsea chelsea do have lots of buyers lined up
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uh there's supposed to be a friday deadline the government in the uk has to allow
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for the sale to happen in some mode or another but
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if another round of american owners comes in how does that change the balance of the
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premier league because most of these owners that are coming in to be buyers i think this guy
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is ties to the dodgers and maybe an nfl team here or there they have an expectation
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of a closed league where you buy in and it goes up it's like the house teams in
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the us are like houses they always go up whereas in the uk if you get relegated
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and you don't invest in your team it falls apart so you have the glazers who are american and you've got uh maybe
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another american oh there's american owners here there and that influence of american sport coming into the league
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will chelsea being owned by another american sort of change the dynamic oh
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sorry fsg liverpool owned by americans uh changed the dynamic of the league and the voting blocks as they are today
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because the big clubs in europe ultimately want american sports style money
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i don't know that they care they want relegation and promotion because it's bad for business like if you were to set
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up a sports league now you would not put relegation in it it makes it dangerous and there's a
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reason why mls teams sell for half a billion dollars and their whereas
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you can go right now and buy a team in the championship in england for probably
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like derby counties probably there for you for 20 million dollars and that is a
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historical club so it just changes the revenue model so it's interesting i like to think about the business i like to
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think about those things i like it i like it i like it it's my kind of thing i've made it to a half an hour i feel
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like i've been talking for four days oh mike i talked about this before but
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when mike and i do shows they come out to about an hour and we're kind of tired we're kind of running out of gas
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sometimes i want mike to um to stop talking and he goes too fast i'm like mike what are you doing but in this
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case uh that half hour you really need that that person to to give you more time
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and really uh and really help you along with um with filling air time so i mean i have a
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big mouth and i like to talk i can talk about anything but uh when you're talking to yourself to a camera it can
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get weird so we carry on here we go uh other news we still there are premier
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league games this weekend and there's the fa cup let's do the premier league previews for
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the weekend tomorrow we have wolves versus leeds uh wolves are comfortably
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in the league leeds got their big win against norwich and jesse march probably has them safe
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um this is the battle of two things that are weird like leads
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give up goals all the time and wolves can't score goals so it should be my guess here is that we
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would go nil nil this will be a low scoring affair leeds are having a hard time scoring and wolves can't score so
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we'll see what happens there this aston villa verse arsenal arsenal coming off licking licking their
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wounds on a wednesday and then having the early game on saturday is just brutal uh i would expect aston villa to
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pull this game out after arsenal licked their wounds arsenal need points off this game though this is a big game for
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them i think any arsenal fan would rather would have expected between liverpool
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and aston villa to get three points out of the wheat out of the two games that would have been okay
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i think arsenal should be happy with a draw here i think that they're in trouble this
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village is going to be a trap game this is another moment of coaching can
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unai can arteta lift the team up after a great performance but they've got to be
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dejected they're still the youngest team in the league they're going against a villa side who just lost but they're
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still playing well i think gerard has the team going well but ultimately this is an early game this is the traditional
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kickoff time can arsenal lift themselves up off the mat
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after playing midweek playing the early game on saturday and play villa and get
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something get a win out of this game could be very very tough sunday
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we have leicester city versus brentford both teams in decent shape leicester coming off a loss
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uh and brentford coming off a big win that puts them into safety basically
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brentforder just yeah brentford coming off a win uh while
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while lester just lost to arsenal arsenal played really well in that game
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but i would expect i would expect a good game here um
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lester are terrible on set pieces i would go with ivan tony to score a goal on a cross we saw that goal get scored
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already with um with erickson to tony for the win in that game so let's uh let's expect
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brentford to pull that game out and then a a london derby
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tottenham and west ham both coming off midweek
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uh west ham's game was extra time put in an extra shift both teams
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really lack depth at this point very evenly matched i'd say tottenham
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west ham is about as close a game as you could get tottenham are at home
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i don't know how much that means uh the other issue i'd say is west ham
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are the type of team that give tottenham fits because they sit deep and
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tottenham don't have good creative midfielders to break things down
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if this is a game for perhaps
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this is a game that i think would be interesting to see if kante could experiment
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with playing maura kulashevsky sun and kane but kane
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sitting deeper i wonder if if if harry's role is to become a number 10 and basically say
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we're not going to find christian erickson but we're going to make harry kane into christian erickson uh but instead of
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kane having to do both jobs just do the one job and get into the box when he can i'd be interested to see if kane would
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do that that would be something fascinating to see if kane could basically become a number 10 with the
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three guys in front of him i don't know who would play the nine maybe maura mora could play the nine maybe sun who knows
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maybe even bergwine just just mix it up see if that's something that's interesting uh those are premier league
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games so we've got those so a lot of things are mixing up we've got the premier league over the weekend and then on the
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fa cup side we still have middlesbury chelsea middlesboro vs
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chelsea crystal palace versus everton on sunday liverpool versus nottingham forest a classic
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and southampton vs manchester city so we still have big teams city have not beat southampton this year
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and are coming off a loss so that's weird uh middlesborough have put
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out arsenal and manchester united so that's not an easy game for chelsea our
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friend chris wilder uh has his boys from tyneside playing really well and we know
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with chelsea it's weird they are still really tough but they kind of play like an old
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italian side you never know if they're going to score but they but they definitely know you're not going to score and then uh everton crystal palace
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mike said that he thought that chris everton should just ditch this game
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i think crystal palace are really good having seen city just play them they'll be up for this game it's at selhurst
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palace have got to be like i should probably look they've got to be like plus 200 favorites easy at home
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against everton i hope that viera goes for this game selhurst will be rocking i like this game and then nottingham
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forest liverpool nottingham forest at home two-time european champions knocked out
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liverpool more than once in in the 80s season to stop liverpool from winning the european
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cup in the old european cup days um liverpool will cruise through this but
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if narrative dictates that liverpool are supposed to try and win this famed quadruple
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and they just played arsenal midweek this is a opportunity for liverpool to maybe drop something
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nottingham forest have been playing really well um this is actually
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l and nottingham forest since:38:05
and while this goes back to:38:12
so things are a little bit crazy here uh it's a little bit wacky from something
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that's super old overall liverpool have progressed from six of seven fa cup ties versus nottingham
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forest failing in the first of such meetings in february
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1895. i love that the fa cup has this history it's one of these amazing things
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we'll see what happens i'm expecting i'm gonna call for the upset i see forrest
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pulling this game out because this is a moment for them they can go try and win this thing it would be
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amazing if they did it uh because liverpool i hate them
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nottingham forest coming off let's see nottingham forest
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coming off winning they're unbeaten in their last
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unbeaten since january 30th so one
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one two three four five six seven eight nine they're unbeaten in nine
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going into liverpool this is a big big game for them uh maybe they can pull it out
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that would be super exciting uh i hope they do uh liverpool oh sorry uh forrest
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if you don't know were managed by uh nigel hydro club
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brian clough one of the more famous managers in english football history he is the
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primary uh antagonist in the film damned united he was the coach of nottingham forest
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and then went to leeds got fired after like 12 days and then went uh wow sorry
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he was the coach at derby won the league then went to leeds got fired and he and he
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and his partner taylor went to nottingham forest and made them into european champions so
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very famous team i always talk about them if you're interested in that stuff
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get into football history it's fascinating it always means something to me and i hope that people get into this
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nerdy stuff like i do but i am gonna wrap it up that was the
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