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Ani David: How an Encounter at Age 10 Transformed Tradition into Real Faith
Episode 20618th September 2026 • #12minconvos with Jesus Believers • Engel Jones
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Reverend Ani David is an Ordained Minister of the Gospel, He is divinely equipped in the area of Preaching ahd Teaching, Healing, Deliverance and Prayer, He was born in Nigeria where He had his early Education before He came to Italy to further his Education, Reverend Ani David has served as a Pastor for Ten years under CHRISTIAN PENTECOSTAL MISSION INTERNATIONAL (CPM) with Late Rev. Dr. O. Ezekiel as the General Overseer, He has a Spiritual Oversight over several Churches, Ministries and Christian Organizations,

Bishop Dave as popularly called has written many articles for both secular and Christian Magazines in Italy, He has authored books like Prayer Principles That Works, Building the Right Future and Wisdom Nuggets For Everyday Life and has developed other Educative materials for personal development and Spiritual growth.

Reverend Ani David is married to Ani Georginea , She is a Prophetic teacher and a minister of the gosepel, they are blessed with Two Sons David and Daaron,

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I was born, I grew up in Nigeria.

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But when I was small, my father took a trip to study abroad, Italy precisely.

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And he spent most of his days there.

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So when I came to a certain age, I was invited over by him.

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So because my father was already there, so he had to bring me over at a certain age, so I had to continue my stay here in Italy.

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And how did you come to meet Jesus?

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My mom back home, she taught us, we always go to church.

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So church was part of it, that is it.

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But at the age of 10, I had an encounter with the Holy Spirit.

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So my Christianity is not just a tradition, but it was based on a genuine encounter.

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An encounter that shaped my life.

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Even as a child, I may not have understood all that happened on that very day.

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My mom was a witness, but that was the genesis of a whole lot of things, serving in church, Bible study, and the rest.

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So, but as a child, we grew up, you know, in Africa, we do child dedication.

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So I had a child dedication on Zoom, means I was taking to church even as a baby.

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And we stayed under that environment.

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On Sunday, you must go to church, or, you know, we had that church culture.

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And I was in a church, they have a very healthy children church.

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I'll tell you that.

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And it's something we're missing in this generation, because it's just the genesis of all I do today.

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The church was so healthy for children, the Bible study.

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In fact, you know, we go make service as children to pray, because the teachers, I don't know, God, they were a gift.

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I've never seen children teachers like that.

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They were so entangled in the things of God.

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I don't know about other kids in the class, but they keep me there.

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I was not struggling to go to the adult church.

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I was very comfortable with the children church.

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So that was all.

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And then a whole lot happened, but the children in church created that environment.

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So at the age of 10, I had this encounter that really set me on more on the path, which my parents had already put me into initially.

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When you moved to Italy, did your mom move exactly when you did?

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I moved early, I moved to meet my father.

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What was that like?

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I was already at teenage years.

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So yes, it was a little bit troubling and so on and so forth.

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But even back in Africa, I was already moving from one location to the other, schooling and the rest.

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So I was not always at home.

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So it was just like an extension of all my many movements when I was back in Africa, because life starts a little bit earlier.

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When I say life starts a little bit earlier, it's because of challenges, things you need, things you want.

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You might start doing one or two things to see if you could bring something home.

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Or at least you get busy, you go to uncle's house, auntie's house, you have endless relatives, you can go for the weekend, holidays, and so on and so forth.

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So it was a little bit stressful in the sense that knowing that we're going to be apart.

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But on the other hand, I saw it as another new beginning.

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And looking at life back in Africa, the economy and so on, we always see this Western world as kind of going to a better place.

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So in as much as there was the pain of not seeing a family back home, there was this other portion of the heart that was full of dreams and expectations.

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What was it like getting to Italy and seeing it for the first time?

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It was not that easy because of the language barrier, you know.

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And there I met the cold weather.

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Oh, God.

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I've never seen such cold before.

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And there was no way I could see such this.

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I was in Africa all my life.

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But no, I met the cold weather and I wish I could go back home.

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My first winter, oh, God, I began to draw out a plan.

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Maybe I'll be traveling.

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Every winter, I'll travel to Africa.

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And when it's summer, I'll come back.

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So the language and the weather really hit me hard, really hard.

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That was the two areas I had a major challenge.

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Then the loneliness, what I mean loneliness is that, you know, in as much we have the African community here, but it's small, very little.

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Sometimes you come to a particular city, just like three or four Africans family and everybody are focused on girls.

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And you can't speak the language to mingle with any other person.

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So you're just indoor all around, just all around.

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If you go out to buy something, you buy, you go back home.

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So, but in Africa, you could just walk out of your house and start having a chat with your neighbor closed door.

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And you can stay there the next two, three hours saying things that doesn't even matter or have any effect, but here you just end up.

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So the loneliness was also part of it.

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Yeah.

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How do you move from being someone that is so much out of his habitat to being part of building a church community?

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You know, because it just asks what we do or what most migrants do is start looking for ways to connect.

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And the church was another place to connect.

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So though we had to drive like 45 minutes to get to the church, but there you have other Africans coming together.

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So a community was created there.

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So that was brief for a Sunday.

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Maybe somebody has a party at home, you invited one thing or the other, but one way or the other, it kept us, it kept me personally, kept me a little busy like that.

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So, and with the passion I had for God back home, so really I come into this Christian church, this Christian community, I got busy, just start getting myself involved in teaching and so on.

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I was like almost everywhere, you know, not because I was called to be everywhere, but I just keep doing what I can to see that the whole community is moving forward.

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So anywhere there's a, there's an opening, I just try to fill it up to make sure we're not, we're not behind here, the choir is moving, the children's section is, you know.

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So with my passion for God, so I just really fell into it and get into much involved in all that we do as the Christian community.

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So it's one way helped me to begin to integrate.

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So in as much, the loneliness was reduced, new assignments were given, new proposed projects.

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So it just helped to at least to, I can feel at home.

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Well, I'm thankful that you will pass by and have a conversation with us.

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You're the first person on the podcast that we've spoken to from Italy with our goal to speak to a person from every country.

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It doesn't go with where you were born, it goes with where you are, yeah.

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And to know that you are there in this time, in this space, there's no coincidence that God would have it be exactly the way it is.

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So for the service that you're offering, I say thank you.

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And I would say this though, five years from today, if you're listening back to this conversation, what's a message you'd leave for future you?

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Ah, the message I would leave for my future self is, don't give up.

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The going might be tough, things might look out of place right now, but God still have great plan and purpose for you.

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Keep your eyes focused on the vision.

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That's all I can say.

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It's been a great honor to speak with you.

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In closing, is there anything else you'd like to share?

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Nothing I would like to share.

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I just want to appreciate you, appreciate the organization.

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Though I'm coming across it for the first time, I had to do some little internet check on it.

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So I appreciate what you guys are doing.

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Ah, you know, in this age and time and the devil trying to trouble the church, you don't know who might be looking for information, who you're speaking with.

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There might be those who are against the kingdom, but they act as if they are with the kingdom just to catch pastors off guard and make more clear of the whole thing.

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So I had to be sure this thing is genuine.

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So I appreciate, I want to say thank you for the work you guys are doing from the little I've been able to see online.

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This day and time, we need this encouragement.

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Looking at the way the church is troubled, the local church, Christianity is on decline, mostly in Europe.

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All this gives me concern, mostly for us who love to see the work of God progress.

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And what you do, it encourages us.

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It's a kind of encouragement.

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I told my family, you guys just give me 12 minutes.

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I must be back for this interview.

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I like what they're doing.

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I pray God will keep you, strengthen you, all you need to do what you do.

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Let it be released divinely in the name of Jesus.

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Obstacles, barriers, be removed.

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And I pray God will use you to become a uniting force, to give voice back again to believers.

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And let us know wherever part of the world we are, there are compatriots, soldiers still standing for Christ.

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That's all I can say.

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Reverend Annie, keep doing what you're doing.

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This is a pleasure, a treasure.

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Thank you for being what is inspired by 12 Minute Conference.

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