Today, we’re talking about the ICONIC 1984 film Purple Rain, which stars the legendary rock/pop/soul artist Prince. It tells the story of an incredibly cocky-yet-talented young Minneapolis artist with a standing residency at the popular club First Avenue, but who is also the product of a violent household. He has a long-standing rivalry with Morris Day’s The Time, and falls in love with a smoking hot but struggling “singer” named Apollonia. The film addresses issues of domestic violence, misogyny, ego, and of course, "what’s up with that one song shit!" But these are all trifling details because the film is basically a 90 minute music video starring Prince. Which is all it really has to be.

The film stars Prince, Apollonia Kotero, Morris Day, Clarence Williams III, Jerome Benton, and The Revolution!

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Hosts: Kristina "Krissie" Rettig & Erin Maxwell

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Speaker: I want to think that they did it

Speaker: as character development to

Speaker: explain his clothing choices,

Speaker: because it was the eighties and

Speaker: he was kind of out there, and

Speaker: they needed a way to explain his

Speaker: clothing choices.

Speaker: But all that tells me is that he

Speaker: went to the Renaissance Faire,

Speaker: but it doesn't really explain

Speaker: anything.

Speaker: It just, hey, come over to my house.

Speaker: I live with my parents.

Speaker: Let's watch them fuck, and then

Speaker: and then go to my clown filled

Speaker: basement.

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Speaker: Hello.

Speaker: Welcome to cinematic Problematic.

Speaker: My name is Erin Maxwell, and I'm Kristy Rettig.

Speaker: And today we are going to be tackling Purple Rain.

Speaker: Originally titled dreams and loosely based on Prince's own

Speaker: life, Purple Rain is the story of a Minneapolis musician on the

Speaker: brink of stardom, but whose who's violent and abusive.

Speaker: Home life creates a cycle of abuse for himself and acting as

Speaker: a barrier for his own success.

Speaker: Mostly cast of amateurs who were primarily musicians.

Speaker: This is a movie that is much beloved because of the purple

Speaker: one, and at the time it came out, it was hailed as a success

Speaker: by critics and audiences alike, both at the box office and much

Speaker: loved because of that darn soundtrack, which is still so

Speaker: gosh darn good.

Speaker: So sexy as Jerome would say.

Speaker: So sexy.

Speaker: Even when Siskel and Ebert reviewed it, it was.

Speaker: Ebert called it the best rock film to come out since Pink

Speaker: Floyd's The Wall, which is big praise from the man.

Speaker: However, recent audience have recently turned on the film.

Speaker: It was deemed misogynistic because of its treatment of

Speaker: women and, uh, reviews of it on Metacritic and on Rotten

Speaker: Tomatoes have caused ratings of it to plummet recently.

Speaker: So we're going to take a look at

Speaker: it and see whether or not we

Speaker: decide to cherish or to check

Speaker: it.

Speaker: I think I know the answer to

Speaker: that already, but let's discuss

Speaker: it.

Speaker: So, Chrissy, what is your experience with this film?

Speaker: Okay, so I remember when I was a very, very small child, as most

Speaker: of these episodes begin about when we were small children.

Speaker: So my mom went to go see this without me.

Speaker: And I believe that she put me into the Muppets movie or some

Speaker: other children's movie while she went to go watch Purple Rain,

Speaker: and she came out of the theater and I said, how was it?

Speaker: And she said, it was fantastic.

Speaker: And then I was really jealous because I was like, well, then I

Speaker: absolutely have to watch it.

Speaker: Even though she said I could not see it.

Speaker: But the beauty of having

Speaker: divorced parents is that, oh

Speaker: yes, you can see it if you have

Speaker: a very permissive father, which

Speaker: I did.

Speaker: So when it came out on cable, um, I think it was cable or VHS,

Speaker: I watched it and oh my God, like burned on my brain.

Speaker: It was like so sexual.

Speaker: I didn't even know if, like, my

Speaker: child brain could even handle

Speaker: it.

Speaker: I didn't even know how to interpret prints as an artist.

Speaker: All I knew is that the album was fire.

Speaker: I loved watching it.

Speaker: It's like a long freakin music video with some bad story

Speaker: sprinkled in for good measure, because we have to have that

Speaker: because it's called a movie.

Speaker: But it was exhilarating.

Speaker: It was like the first time I'd

Speaker: seen a movie, like where the

Speaker: song like where one of the songs

Speaker: like, really, really, really

Speaker: moved me, and that was Purple

Speaker: Rain, and I thought it was

Speaker: incredible.

Speaker: And I was a Prince fan from then on.

Speaker: And, you know, I do recognize

Speaker: that today, a lot of the things

Speaker: that happen in the movie are

Speaker: frowned upon, um, and downright

Speaker: bad.

Speaker: We do not condone these things.

Speaker: However, um, if you play this movie at Cinespia, I am going to

Speaker: be one of the first people to stand up during the finale and

Speaker: start dancing my ass off.

Speaker: So there you have it.

Speaker: What about you, Aaron?

Speaker: What was your experience?

Speaker: First off, shout out to divorced dads.

Speaker: Without them, I would not be

Speaker: eating eclairs on Saturday

Speaker: mornings watching Texas Chainsaw

Speaker: Massacre, making me the woman I

Speaker: am today.

Speaker: God bless them.

Speaker: God bless them.

Speaker: Um, I was aware of who Prince

Speaker: was and loved him on MTV and did

Speaker: not see this movie until it was

Speaker: on Saturday morning matinees,

Speaker: when it was cut to shit and

Speaker: almost incomprehensible.

Speaker: Was it like fifteen minutes long?

Speaker: It was like an hour.

Speaker: Okay, so I think the movie

Speaker: itself was cut to like an hour

Speaker: and fifteen minutes with

Speaker: commercials, and they cut out

Speaker: almost all the violence and all

Speaker: the sex.

Speaker: So it just read as a music video to me, and I still enjoyed it

Speaker: immensely, but I had no idea what the plot was.

Speaker: As far as I can tell, the plot

Speaker: was just when, like in my little

Speaker: mind, it was just about Morris

Speaker: Day and Prince hating each

Speaker: other.

Speaker: Yeah, and that was it.

Speaker: That was the only the only

Speaker: amount of plot that they managed

Speaker: to say.

Speaker: Like a schoolyard rivalry.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And it was because they were fighting over Apollonia.

Speaker: But I had no reason why.

Speaker: So they had cut out all of the violence.

Speaker: They had cut out all of the sex, and not a lot of it made sense.

Speaker: Like the point of Christmas of

Speaker: the kid's father shooting,

Speaker: trying to take his own life that

Speaker: was gone.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Beating his mother that was gone.

Speaker: All of that was gone.

Speaker: So what what spurned on this amazing concert performance?

Speaker: If he wasn't traumatized by his

Speaker: father shooting himself in the

Speaker: head?

Speaker: Whimsy.

Speaker: Just everything was just

Speaker: motivated by whimsy, as far as I

Speaker: can tell.

Speaker: He's just a moody artist, and now he's just gonna bring it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And so when I saw the full movie later on in my life, and I want

Speaker: to say I rented it in college, and that was really the first

Speaker: time I saw it in its full glory.

Speaker: I was a little shocked.

Speaker: You had no idea.

Speaker: I had no idea.

Speaker: And then immediately loved it, but was also just kind of

Speaker: clutching my pearls a little bit at the violence of it, because

Speaker: did not realize that he hit Apollonia a few times, did not

Speaker: realize of the B storyline of the abusive family dynamic and

Speaker: dysfunctional between kid, father and mother.

Speaker: And it was just kind of

Speaker: shocking, actually, how deep the

Speaker: film was.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I, I struggle to

Speaker: call the film deep, but, but,

Speaker: but, but but the themes are

Speaker: deep.

Speaker: They attempt to be deep, right?

Speaker: I mean, it's hard to I mean, we

Speaker: can talk about the criminality

Speaker: of some of the acting in the

Speaker: film, but, uh, it's but but I

Speaker: think that that kind of

Speaker: distracted from the emotional

Speaker: weight that a topic like that

Speaker: should carry.

Speaker: It is a very real topic.

Speaker: It was shocking.

Speaker: It is shocking in parts, I

Speaker: think, but mostly because a

Speaker: beloved artist is doing it

Speaker: right.

Speaker: And that is where I was just like, oh my God, I don't want to

Speaker: think about Prince in this way.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: So, so yeah, I think that, uh.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's trying, it's trying.

Speaker: I like the idea that you have this nameless family that just

Speaker: kid, mother, father.

Speaker: And they're just supposed to

Speaker: kind of represent any family

Speaker: that's going through this cycle

Speaker: of trauma.

Speaker: And I kind of thought that that was making a statement.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: It does.

Speaker: Um, the fact that there's only like three actors in the film

Speaker: that does show.

Speaker: How are you using the term actor.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I mean Clarence.

Speaker: Clarence Williams.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Legit.

Speaker: Legit.

Speaker: He's a legit actor.

Speaker: Uh, the woman that played his mother, uh, also a legit actor.

Speaker: Um, uh, I you we can stop.

Speaker: We can stop there.

Speaker: We can stop there.

Speaker: I mean, I think Prince does a

Speaker: great job, and this is

Speaker: definitely his first time out,

Speaker: but I think he does an admirable

Speaker: job.

Speaker: He's playing himself very, very well.

Speaker: True.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Um. And then I am going to stop speaking.

Speaker: And that is the end of my sentence.

Speaker: I have nothing else to add to this conversation, other than

Speaker: the fact that I do love Morris Day, and Jerome and I enjoyed

Speaker: their little dynamic, but that does not make them great actors.

Speaker: Oh, no. I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker: They were just so over the top

Speaker: that it's like, I don't even

Speaker: know if it qualifies as acting,

Speaker: really.

Speaker: It's just kind of them being

Speaker: once again, it's like them being

Speaker: themselves.

Speaker: You know, it's like this is their persona.

Speaker: And they were just like, here is a playground.

Speaker: Go and play.

Speaker: And they did.

Speaker: I think that and Morris Day has come out and said this, that

Speaker: clearly their performances were fueled by cocaine.

Speaker: You can tell.

Speaker: And it was kind of obvious when you see it.

Speaker: And yeah, maybe not Jerome as much, but definitely Morris as

Speaker: Daniel LaRusso would say, hey, it's the eighties.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Why not?

Speaker: Show me a film that wasn't fueled by cocaine back then.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Shall we?

Speaker: Shall we mosey on over into crimes?

Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker: Would you like to lead the way?

Speaker: Sure.

Speaker: I mean, I'll kick it off.

Speaker: I mean, there's some obvious ones.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And then we'll finish off with some.

Speaker: With some homemade ones?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Some less.

Speaker: Some lesser crimes.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: If you want to call them that.

Speaker: Sure.

Speaker: Um, the first one, the most

Speaker: obvious one we've already kind

Speaker: of dug into this one is, um,

Speaker: domestic violence.

Speaker: Okay, so this happens on a couple of different fronts from

Speaker: a domestic violence perspective.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: There's violence on women in other scenarios.

Speaker: One notable scenario, I don't

Speaker: know if I'd call it DV, but, um,

Speaker: first of all, we have, uh,

Speaker: Prince's father, um, hitting his

Speaker: mother.

Speaker: Like, the only times like that, we see them together.

Speaker: He is just beating her like he walks in.

Speaker: And Clarence Williams the third is just, like, shaking her and

Speaker: slapping her, and her mother's crying and yelling, and, um,

Speaker: Prince gets knocked around by his father trying to protect his

Speaker: mother at one point.

Speaker: That is just they establish that

Speaker: that is just normal, that he is

Speaker: going home.

Speaker: He doesn't want to go in, but he knows he has to.

Speaker: He hears his mother being threatened and he he wants to go

Speaker: and help her.

Speaker: But, you know, little five foot four Prince isn't much match for

Speaker: Clarence Williams the third.

Speaker: And and and you see that?

Speaker: And you notice that this is just

Speaker: a normal part of his life, which

Speaker: also segues into Prince's own

Speaker: abuse, which Aaron hit on

Speaker: earlier.

Speaker: You know, like the the cycle of domestic abuse.

Speaker: He hits Apollonia when she says she's going to join Morris's

Speaker: group, and she buys him a guitar to sweeten it, because I think

Speaker: she knows that he's not gonna like it, but he hits her and

Speaker: it's shocking when it happens.

Speaker: I remember seeing that for the first time in, um, when I was a

Speaker: kid and watching it at home, and I was just like, oh, man, like

Speaker: Prince just hit a woman.

Speaker: So that happens a couple of times.

Speaker: It happens another time when Apollonia is out drinking after

Speaker: her show and, um, she's with Morris and Prince finds her and

Speaker: he kind of sideswipes Morris with his bike, and he and

Speaker: Apollonia get into a struggle.

Speaker: He knocks her to the ground, almost backhands her again.

Speaker: It's all bad.

Speaker: It's all very, very bad.

Speaker: Shocking shit.

Speaker: You can tell that he does not want to hit her.

Speaker: He realizes it and then he backs away.

Speaker: But no excuses here.

Speaker: It's just bad all the way around.

Speaker: Aaron, anything to add?

Speaker: Um, yeah.

Speaker: I had the two counts of assault

Speaker: against, uh, the kid for hitting

Speaker: Apollonia.

Speaker: One count of assault against Jerome.

Speaker: For throwing a woman on a dumpster.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: That was my just plain assault crime.

Speaker: That's an assault crime.

Speaker: He put her in a a dumpster.

Speaker: He literally dumpster picked her up and threw this poor woman

Speaker: into a dumpster like she was an old, useless mannequin.

Speaker: The four counts of assault

Speaker: against father for beating

Speaker: mother.

Speaker: Um, one count of an illegal discharge of a firearm from

Speaker: father wasn't illegal.

Speaker: Is that illegal to use it against yourself?

Speaker: You know what?

Speaker: I'm not so familiar with

Speaker: Minneapolis firearm laws, but I

Speaker: can only assume because police

Speaker: showed up.

Speaker: Well, they showed up because he was.

Speaker: He had shot himself in the head.

Speaker: Let's kind of count it.

Speaker: It's a light.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Maybe it's a ticket.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yeah, it's a ticket.

Speaker: No, it's like, don't do that again, sir.

Speaker: Yeah, don't do that again.

Speaker: But there was a chalk outline too on the ground, which, I

Speaker: mean, do you want to do you know the story behind that?

Speaker: Uh oh.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: So originally he died.

Speaker: That's why there's that's why

Speaker: there's a chalk outline on the

Speaker: ground.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And they took it out of the film because they were like, oh,

Speaker: that's way too dark.

Speaker: As if shooting yourself in the head is not because.

Speaker: But they originally had star eighty come out earlier that

Speaker: year, the studio and that already had a murder suicide as

Speaker: the ending of that film, which was based on a true story.

Speaker: So they didn't want to have two films come out that both ended

Speaker: in a in a murder suicide.

Speaker: So they changed the ending of this film, right?

Speaker: But they still show the chalk outline, which is interesting.

Speaker: Um, because usually that just means you're dead, right?

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: That's what I thought I don't do they still do those I don't

Speaker: know, I have no idea.

Speaker: Was that just like an eighties thing?

Speaker: Just I don't like what's the I

Speaker: don't know, I mean, I've only

Speaker: ever seen it either as like, a

Speaker: dramatic to make a dramatic

Speaker: point or to make a comedic

Speaker: point.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: This one is meant to be dramatic, I believe.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Discharging the firearm, that's another one.

Speaker: What other do we know?

Speaker: Any other like crime crimes.

Speaker: Destruction of property.

Speaker: When kid destroys the entire basement.

Speaker: Because that wasn't his basement.

Speaker: It was his parent's basement.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And all the jarred goods.

Speaker: Yeah, like he literally destroyed, like, two years worth

Speaker: of pickled yams and.

Speaker: And stewed tomatoes.

Speaker: Yeah, those are perfectly good stewed tomatoes.

Speaker: A bike, like, literally stuff that these.

Speaker: I don't see Clarence Williams ever getting on that bike.

Speaker: And the dolls.

Speaker: The dolls just got smashed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Jesus.

Speaker: We'll get to the dolls.

Speaker: Um, a few lesser crimes, and

Speaker: we're going to go back and forth

Speaker: on these.

Speaker: So, um, invasion of privacy with

Speaker: Apollonia and kid watching kid's

Speaker: parents make out was kind of

Speaker: creepy.

Speaker: That's kind of gross.

Speaker: Like, who wants to do that?

Speaker: Yeah, that's like the first red flag kind of.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's like, why are we doing this?

Speaker: You want to watch my parents make out?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So they weren't always hitting each other.

Speaker: There was one point where they

Speaker: were just making out before,

Speaker: like as a prelude to hitting

Speaker: each other.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So there are a series of things

Speaker: that Prince does in this film

Speaker: that he only gets away with

Speaker: because he's Prince and Prince

Speaker: is awesome.

Speaker: That is one of them.

Speaker: But that would be a red flag in any other scenario.

Speaker: In any other dating scenario, a

Speaker: guy takes you back to his

Speaker: parents place where he's renting

Speaker: out the basement and says, hey,

Speaker: want to watch my parents make

Speaker: out?

Speaker: Um, theft?

Speaker: Uh, Apollonia did skipped out on paying that cab fare.

Speaker: She did at the beginning.

Speaker: And that was thirty seven dollars and eighty dollars.

Speaker: That's like one hundred and fifty dollars today.

Speaker: Yeah, that's a lot of money.

Speaker: That poor cabbie.

Speaker: She shouldn't have gotten in that cab.

Speaker: She didn't know.

Speaker: Well, she got away with it, so I guess it's fine.

Speaker: What would you like to add to this?

Speaker: Okay, so.

Speaker: Okay, let's let's talk about some fun crimes.

Speaker: Um, impersonating a singer.

Speaker: Apollonia.

Speaker: Like, I'm pretty sure impersonating a celebrity is

Speaker: like a crime.

Speaker: She's not a celebrity.

Speaker: But she certainly was trying to pretend like she could sing.

Speaker: I mean, and who cares if you're dressed in lingerie and gyrating

Speaker: on a stage?

Speaker: You really don't need to know how to sing.

Speaker: And I think that was Maurice's point, Right.

Speaker: This is true.

Speaker: It was meant to be vanity, but

Speaker: vanity ducked out at the last

Speaker: minute.

Speaker: So they got in.

Speaker: Brought in Apollonia.

Speaker: I thought she did a fair job.

Speaker: She's for what was in front of her.

Speaker: You know, it's like.

Speaker: Sure, sex shooter is not, you know, some kind of like.

Speaker: It's not a classic.

Speaker: It's not a fucking aria.

Speaker: It's, you know, no one's no

Speaker: one's asking for it at clubs,

Speaker: maybe.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, I mean, it's a great karaoke song if you can't sing.

Speaker: Sure.

Speaker: Awesome.

Speaker: You know what?

Speaker: I'm going to start adding that to my repertoire.

Speaker: I think that we both should.

Speaker: Yeah, maybe we could get a third and do Apollonia six.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Why?

Speaker: They're called Apollonia six.

Speaker: I'm still not sure, but whatever.

Speaker: Because there's only three of them.

Speaker: I'm sure it was Prince's favorite number.

Speaker: Oh, that makes sense.

Speaker: Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker: And it sounds better than Apollonia three, I guess.

Speaker: Yeah, and six, like, is kind of

Speaker: like sex, which is always on

Speaker: Prince's mind back in the

Speaker: eighties.

Speaker: God bless that man.

Speaker: Oh, my God, he's so sexy.

Speaker: So so good.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Another crime?

Speaker: Um. Emotional distress for every child and Prince fan under the

Speaker: age of fifteen that begged their parents to go see this movie and

Speaker: then had to sit through that very graphic and hot sex scene.

Speaker: Oh my God, Prince literally went to the director and like, no,

Speaker: we're gonna fuck.

Speaker: Like, we're gonna get like.

Speaker: And he's like, well, I can't show the fucking part.

Speaker: He's like, well, then show the

Speaker: part where I'm massaging her

Speaker: clitoris, please.

Speaker: So I remember we went to we went to go see this at Cinespia and

Speaker: we bought another friend with us who had never seen this film.

Speaker: And I remember hearing her audibly gasp when that, when

Speaker: that scene came on.

Speaker: And I don't blame her at all.

Speaker: No, it's like not pretend touching.

Speaker: It is full on like it's he's doing it.

Speaker: That entire cemetery during that

Speaker: scene gasped and like was like,

Speaker: oh my god, more so than the

Speaker: concert scenes.

Speaker: I didn't because it was like literally the hundredth time

Speaker: I've seen this movie.

Speaker: And so I knew it was coming.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: Yes yes yes yes and more.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Um, so that to this day I think

Speaker: that that's like one of the most

Speaker: sexual scenes I've ever seen,

Speaker: like without like reenacting

Speaker: penetration.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: Because everything is kind of like it's just hotter because

Speaker: it's just alluded to.

Speaker: It's hotter.

Speaker: And Prince like, they seem into

Speaker: it, like they seem like they're

Speaker: loving it.

Speaker: He looked like he knew what he was doing.

Speaker: He totally knew what he was doing.

Speaker: And I think that this was like the part where all women were

Speaker: was like, yep, Prince knows what he's doing, right?

Speaker: It's just like he knows where everything is.

Speaker: Like, as you would imagine with somebody who is that confident

Speaker: and that sexual, it's like, yes, he knows where the buttons are.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He's just a wee little sex elf that God blessed us with and

Speaker: like, oh my God, he's so hot.

Speaker: It's so hot.

Speaker: Um, this is going to be a theme that you're gonna hear a lot of.

Speaker: We're just gonna keep on repeating it because, oh, my

Speaker: God, a thesaurus.

Speaker: I'm about to turn on my air

Speaker: conditioner because we just keep

Speaker: talking about Prince and his

Speaker: hotness.

Speaker: God damn.

Speaker: Dang.

Speaker: Even in the heels, we were blessed.

Speaker: We were in the nineties.

Speaker: We were blessed for such a long time.

Speaker: We really were.

Speaker: Okay, can I can I do a little bit of counter-programming now?

Speaker: Sure.

Speaker: Now, we talked about how sexy is another giant red flag for any

Speaker: other man, the amount of clowns this man had in his bedroom and

Speaker: in his in his green room.

Speaker: And the puppet.

Speaker: I don't know if you call it a clown, but it's kind of creepy.

Speaker: A Harlequin clown masks.

Speaker: Harlequin clown masks in the.

Speaker: Okay, picture it, ladies.

Speaker: Okay, you go out on a Tinder date, he takes you to his

Speaker: parents house where he's renting out the basement once again.

Speaker: Red flag next red flag.

Speaker: You go down into the basement and it's like a bordello.

Speaker: Clown car.

Speaker: Fucking like clowns everywhere.

Speaker: Porcelain dolls, red fabric, glittery shit.

Speaker: It's like, do you stay or do you run?

Speaker: Well, neither, because that's

Speaker: clearly where you're going to

Speaker: die.

Speaker: Like if you try to run, like, some sort of mechanism is going

Speaker: to come out and cut your Achilles heel and stop you from

Speaker: escaping like one of his favorite piano chords.

Speaker: That's like a tripwire.

Speaker: Like it's it's you're lucky if you're crawling out of that

Speaker: basement like it is.

Speaker: That is not any good vibes.

Speaker: Unless you are Prince.

Speaker: At some point you are going to wake up in a corner of that room

Speaker: wearing a ruffled collar and like some sort of clown mask.

Speaker: And that is your fate for the rest of your short, short life.

Speaker: Yeah, you become a clown.

Speaker: You become like one of the

Speaker: clowns sitting on a chair in the

Speaker: corner, just like in

Speaker: Poltergeist.

Speaker: But you're like life size now.

Speaker: I want to think that they did it

Speaker: as character development to

Speaker: explain his clothing choices,

Speaker: because it was the eighties and

Speaker: he was kind of out there, and

Speaker: they needed a way to explain his

Speaker: clothing choices.

Speaker: But all that tells me is that he

Speaker: went to the Renaissance fair,

Speaker: but it doesn't really explain

Speaker: anything.

Speaker: It just, hey, come over to my house.

Speaker: I live with my parents.

Speaker: Let's watch them fuck, and then

Speaker: and then go to my clown filled

Speaker: basement.

Speaker: Like, no. Like the only thing that makes that basement hot is

Speaker: the fact that Prince is in it.

Speaker: And that's it.

Speaker: Yeah, every other signal is a

Speaker: signal to run for your fucking

Speaker: life.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: Clowns.

Speaker: Crime.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: It was, but then, you know,

Speaker: he'll finger you on his, like,

Speaker: princess bed.

Speaker: It's all good.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: This.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: This is an R rated.

Speaker: This is more R-rated than Purple Rain.

Speaker: Almost.

Speaker: Um, but I'm into it.

Speaker: Let's keep talking.

Speaker: One of my good crimes.

Speaker: I mean, speaking of which, is that Prince is, like, so sexual.

Speaker: It's criminal.

Speaker: Like, he's like, he's like a new a new category of sexual being.

Speaker: Again, I think at this point and

Speaker: then continuing on for most of

Speaker: his career, Prince, until he

Speaker: found God, he painted himself as

Speaker: almost like a pseudo sexual

Speaker: fantasy creature, um, because he

Speaker: always had pictures of him with,

Speaker: like, prancing ponies and

Speaker: pegasuses and purple like

Speaker: dreamscapes.

Speaker: And he's always nude or like,

Speaker: alluded to the fact that he was

Speaker: like, offering to take fans to

Speaker: bed.

Speaker: And it worked.

Speaker: It was great.

Speaker: It totally.

Speaker: There's no one else that would

Speaker: have worked with, but it worked

Speaker: for him.

Speaker: It totally worked for him.

Speaker: And you know what?

Speaker: Even beyond, like, even after he was kind of like he went into

Speaker: his Jehovah's Witness phase, like, do you remember, like, the

Speaker: Super Bowl performance?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's like one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time

Speaker: and like but okay, so it starts raining, which is just amazing.

Speaker: And the silhouette of him with like the against the fabric and

Speaker: he turns around and he's like using that guitar, I'm sorry, in

Speaker: a very phallic way.

Speaker: And it was very non-innocent and

Speaker: everybody knew exactly what he

Speaker: was doing.

Speaker: He snuck one in for us, he snuck one in for the early fans, and I

Speaker: was there for it.

Speaker: When was he?

Speaker: When did he go all in with his religion?

Speaker: I don't know the exact year like it was after the yellow suit.

Speaker: After the yellow suit?

Speaker: It was after cream, for sure.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Um, I think it was after.

Speaker: I think it was like, ah, I want to say mid nineties.

Speaker: Yeah, I would probably peg it at.

Speaker: Sorry, Peg.

Speaker: Anyways, we're just talking about sex too much.

Speaker: Um, I think it was mid mid nineties, mid to late nineties.

Speaker: We can check we can look that up though.

Speaker: That's why I think it was so

Speaker: surprising during the Super

Speaker: Bowl.

Speaker: When he did that I was kind of like, all right, thank you.

Speaker: Thank you for giving us that

Speaker: little morsel, morsel of

Speaker: sexuality.

Speaker: I'm here for it.

Speaker: And I'm sorry, but nobody stopped thinking about him as a

Speaker: sexual person even after he became a Christian.

Speaker: It's like it's just impossible.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: He stopped performing his, like, sexual songs and most of his

Speaker: dirty songs in concert, but they're remembered fondly.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I remember when I went to go see him at the forum.

Speaker: Oh, God.

Speaker: Forever.

Speaker: It was like twenty one nights in Los Angeles.

Speaker: Yes, I did that as well.

Speaker: Yeah, he had a small residency in Los Angeles at the forum, and

Speaker: they were all every show he performed at was magical.

Speaker: It was one of the best musical performances I've ever seen in

Speaker: my entire life.

Speaker: And you weren't allowed to bring your phone in?

Speaker: Uh, yeah.

Speaker: Very strict.

Speaker: And you didn't know who the opening act was or.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Or you didn't know who?

Speaker: His special guest.

Speaker: He always had, like, a special, special guest, right?

Speaker: Mine was Chaka Khan.

Speaker: Oh, we got Maceo, the sax player.

Speaker: But it was fine.

Speaker: Whatever.

Speaker: It was still Prince on stage.

Speaker: But what was funny is that he

Speaker: would pretend to start playing

Speaker: Darling Nikki and he'd be like,

Speaker: no, no, no. And it's like, dang

Speaker: it.

Speaker: He knew what he was doing.

Speaker: He knew what he was doing.

Speaker: He wanted us.

Speaker: He wanted us to remember darling Nikki without playing it for us.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: One of the crimes of this movie.

Speaker: And I'm just gonna throw this out there, is the fact that he

Speaker: performs darling Nikki, and everybody in this movie is

Speaker: bummed about it.

Speaker: And that is a crime that is, like, the most unrealistic part

Speaker: of the movie to me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because it's during the part of the movie where he's supposed to

Speaker: be entering his dark phase because he's supposedly lost his

Speaker: love and his career is on a weird track, and it's just

Speaker: supposed to be lost in his own thoughts and everything seems to

Speaker: be slipping away.

Speaker: So he's his music is supposed to be reflecting that.

Speaker: And so he gets on stage and he's

Speaker: wearing the sex mask and he's

Speaker: shirtless and he's performing

Speaker: Darling Nikki.

Speaker: This is a great performance of that song.

Speaker: It is so good.

Speaker: And people in that audience do not realize how lucky they are

Speaker: to see this.

Speaker: Everybody looks bummed.

Speaker: It's like why?

Speaker: That was like one of the things

Speaker: I never understood too, about

Speaker: this.

Speaker: It was like the the club boss or whatever his name is, right?

Speaker: He was always just like, what's up with this one song?

Speaker: Shit.

Speaker: And he would like, just totally, like, curse Prince out after,

Speaker: like, killing it on stage.

Speaker: It's just like.

Speaker: It's like, yeah, you suck.

Speaker: It's like telling, like Barack Obama.

Speaker: It's like you suck at speeches, you know?

Speaker: It's just like, what the fuck was that?

Speaker: And it's like, no, nobody's going to tell them that.

Speaker: No, nobody's going to say that.

Speaker: Like, there was that scene where

Speaker: Prince is playing guitar, and

Speaker: then I think it was Wendy got on

Speaker: her knees and started mimicking

Speaker: oral sex.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: It was a great performance.

Speaker: Great performance.

Speaker: Such a good performance.

Speaker: And everybody's super like upset about it.

Speaker: And I'm like all of you have terrible taste.

Speaker: Speaking of which, can I just for a second.

Speaker: Speaking of performances, the best performance in this movie.

Speaker: Wendy.

Speaker: She's good.

Speaker: Yeah, sure.

Speaker: Everybody else.

Speaker: Well, I mean, I'm not gonna say because I love Prince, but

Speaker: everybody else, I don't think it was a performance.

Speaker: I think she was really pissed off at the way Prince treated

Speaker: her, because I think that he actually treated her that way.

Speaker: Well, you know what?

Speaker: She.

Speaker: They captured it on camera.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Beautifully.

Speaker: She was great.

Speaker: Yeah, she was fantastic.

Speaker: I just want to give her a little gold star.

Speaker: Just a little bit.

Speaker: Sprinkle in.

Speaker: Sprinkle in a little positivity

Speaker: while we're talking about the

Speaker: crimes.

Speaker: Wendy, you did good.

Speaker: You did good, Wendy.

Speaker: You brought you.

Speaker: You really lived in the moment.

Speaker: You made it real for me.

Speaker: Thank you.

Speaker: Gold star.

Speaker: Gold star.

Speaker: All right, we can get back to it.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Um, so we talked a little bit.

Speaker: Why?

Speaker: We cherish it.

Speaker: We cherish it because of the soundtrack.

Speaker: We cherish it because of Prince.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Uh, let's talk a little bit about Morris Day.

Speaker: Oh, you're saying that through gritted teeth?

Speaker: No. It's fine.

Speaker: You know more.

Speaker: Okay, let's talk about Morris.

Speaker: I love Morris.

Speaker: I don't know if this is going to be if this is where we split.

Speaker: No no no no. It's not, it's not, it's not.

Speaker: I love Morris, too.

Speaker: It's I don't know why.

Speaker: It's it's just difficult for me to articulate my feelings for

Speaker: Morris in this film.

Speaker: Like, he's obviously comic relief.

Speaker: Yes, he is completely over the top, which is fine.

Speaker: That's just.

Speaker: That's the job that they gave him.

Speaker: Him and Jerome are just very I

Speaker: don't know, they're just a very

Speaker: unique.

Speaker: It's like, has there ever been

Speaker: like another dynamic like this

Speaker: in film?

Speaker: I mean, they obviously were trying for kind of a Laurel and

Speaker: Hardy kind of dynamic there.

Speaker: They, they.

Speaker: Who's on first?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They do like a little like they

Speaker: do a Abbott and Costello who's

Speaker: on first kind of bit there for a

Speaker: bit.

Speaker: I think that's what they're going for.

Speaker: It always blows my mind that he's like twenty five Five in

Speaker: this because everybody in this film looks thirty five, but

Speaker: they're all in their twenties.

Speaker: No. You know what's funny is that, yeah, Apollonia is

Speaker: supposed to be nineteen, right?

Speaker: And she looks thirty six like a fabulous thirty six.

Speaker: But still, she's also like

Speaker: twenty four, I think in real

Speaker: life, probably.

Speaker: I mean, still like.

Speaker: Yeah, like people age differently back then, man.

Speaker: I mean, you know, what's funny

Speaker: is that Jerome, like, if you

Speaker: take him out of the suit and you

Speaker: put him like, you know, like a

Speaker: northwestern hoodie or

Speaker: something, he looks like a

Speaker: college student.

Speaker: Like he has, like a baby face.

Speaker: Kinda.

Speaker: Morris, for some odd reason, I don't know, it's like he's not

Speaker: he doesn't look old.

Speaker: It's just that I think it's like the the hair, the mustache, the

Speaker: mustache, the suit.

Speaker: Like, if he shaved off the mustache, he'd probably look

Speaker: younger because he's got like.

Speaker: Like, those freckles are very youthful and everything too, so

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I've always been a Morrissey fan.

Speaker: I think it was Oak Tree, because I think Oak Tree was such a like

Speaker: a catchy song.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Um, I didn't understand quite

Speaker: that they were selling me that

Speaker: he was the reason people came to

Speaker: the club.

Speaker: Yeah, I was having a hard time trying to buy that, but I liked

Speaker: him as the villain.

Speaker: Oh, he's a great villain.

Speaker: Yeah, he's a great villain.

Speaker: He's laughable.

Speaker: He's not like a serious villain.

Speaker: He's like, oh, is he really gonna win?

Speaker: I don't think so.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: He's got a snazzy assistant who carries around a mirror for him,

Speaker: which is kind of cool.

Speaker: But I mean, if we're talking

Speaker: about going toe to toe

Speaker: performance for performance, I

Speaker: mean, obviously Prince is the

Speaker: draw.

Speaker: So the fact that Prince is like, struggling to, to get respect is

Speaker: one of the moments.

Speaker: Well, one of the things about the film that just doesn't

Speaker: compute, he just blew.

Speaker: I think also that he has like Morris has just some of the best

Speaker: lines, like he just has like, you should come to my house.

Speaker: It is so exciting.

Speaker: He has a brass waterbed.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I kind of want to go to your house.

Speaker: Your house?

Speaker: I just want to see a brass waterbed.

Speaker: To be honest with you, I don't

Speaker: want to get anywhere near it,

Speaker: though.

Speaker: Like, he has a he has like

Speaker: Italian chefs, like, okay, okay,

Speaker: here's here's the thing that's

Speaker: funny about about Morris Day

Speaker: versus Prince.

Speaker: They are both kind of skirting that masculine feminine line.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: They're both kind of going for that same kind of vibe.

Speaker: But for some odd reason, I can't

Speaker: imagine Prince is so much better

Speaker: in bed.

Speaker: I mean, I can't imagine Morris with anybody other than Jerome.

Speaker: That's so true.

Speaker: But he really is, like, very

Speaker: masculine, though, like Hugh

Speaker: Morris.

Speaker: Morris.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: He is like.

Speaker: No, I mean, he's throwing women in dumpsters.

Speaker: I mean, that's not masculine, though.

Speaker: I mean, he's throwing women in

Speaker: dumpsters, but like, the way

Speaker: that he like his like, he's very

Speaker: vain.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: Which gives him kind of, like, more of, like a feminine, kind

Speaker: of like aura.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: I mean, like, in actuality, I mean, in real life.

Speaker: In real life Morris days.

Speaker: Oh, I don't I'm not even talking about Morris Day.

Speaker: Yeah, okay.

Speaker: Like, do you think.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: What about.

Speaker: What about in movie Morris Day in purple Rain.

Speaker: Morris day.

Speaker: Rainforest again, not knowing

Speaker: but Jerome like, yeah, I can't

Speaker: like I can't even picture it,

Speaker: but whatever.

Speaker: It's fine.

Speaker: But women seem to flock to him

Speaker: like or just women in

Speaker: Minneapolis are just really fame

Speaker: crazy.

Speaker: Maybe.

Speaker: I mean, yeah, yeah, it just he doesn't give off the same like,

Speaker: sexual energy that Prince does.

Speaker: There's just something very, very, very special and

Speaker: particular about it.

Speaker: I mean, I think it's the metallic suits.

Speaker: It looks like if he was to run

Speaker: very, very fast, it would cause

Speaker: a fire.

Speaker: Maybe that's a talent, I don't know.

Speaker: Um, I do like Clarence Williams performance in this.

Speaker: It is very.

Speaker: It is the most intense part of this entire movie.

Speaker: Yeah, it is like.

Speaker: Like because he just looks.

Speaker: He looks out of his mind.

Speaker: He looks out of his mind, like, either.

Speaker: Like he's totally wasted.

Speaker: His.

Speaker: His eyes are always bloodshot.

Speaker: There's no humor in it.

Speaker: There isn't any levity at all in his performance.

Speaker: He's not endearing in any way, and I think, like many people at

Speaker: this point, mostly knew him as link from Mod Squad, where he

Speaker: was very endearing.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Um, and modern audiences mostly

Speaker: know him from tales from the

Speaker: hood.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Where he is the over the top and very very endearing like host.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And so uh, Mr. Sims that was the

Speaker: name Mr. Sims from tales from

Speaker: the hood.

Speaker: But, uh, yeah, but he's, he

Speaker: brings gravitas, I guess, to

Speaker: this film.

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: One of the few actual actors.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, he is like, wait, who else?

Speaker: Was there anybody else?

Speaker: Oh, the wife.

Speaker: The wife.

Speaker: Uh, Olga.

Speaker: I can't wait I haven't yeah I have it.

Speaker: Her name is Olga Karlatos.

Speaker: Yep.

Speaker: Karlatos.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But she's given so, so minimal.

Speaker: I don't know if she had a larger role in a different cut.

Speaker: She basically had one line, and

Speaker: it was like, you're crazy, and

Speaker: that's it.

Speaker: They didn't give her a lot to do.

Speaker: They didn't give her a lot to do.

Speaker: She's crying.

Speaker: She's being shaken.

Speaker: And she's saying that line, right.

Speaker: She can take a hit.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: It's like not it's they.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Not, not.

Speaker: Didn't give her the most to do I

Speaker: wish I wish we could have like

Speaker: gotten more sentences out of her

Speaker: or something.

Speaker: Like maybe like a moment between

Speaker: her and Prince about like why do

Speaker: you put up with or something,

Speaker: you know?

Speaker: I don't know, maybe it was cut.

Speaker: I have no idea.

Speaker: Um, the other reason why you might cherish it.

Speaker: Do you have other reasons?

Speaker: Um, I have, like, a few more.

Speaker: Are we in the truck or cherish?

Speaker: Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker: We're still chatting about it.

Speaker: Like, why do we enjoy this?

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Um, I mean, look, it is a ninety

Speaker: minute marketing material,

Speaker: concert film for Purple Rain,

Speaker: and that is all it fucking needs

Speaker: to be.

Speaker: Like the fact that they sprinkled in story.

Speaker: Fine.

Speaker: But it is exhilarating watching this film.

Speaker: It is exhilarating watching

Speaker: Prince perform on stage If you

Speaker: never got to see him live in

Speaker: concert, this is probably the

Speaker: next best thing that you're

Speaker: gonna get.

Speaker: And I still this is still one of my favorite albums of all time.

Speaker: And, uh, it will probably continue to be until the day

Speaker: that I die.

Speaker: And despite problematic parts, I still love this movie.

Speaker: And every single time, every

Speaker: year that they say it's going to

Speaker: play at Cinespia, I am there for

Speaker: it.

Speaker: Like the good way outweighs the bad.

Speaker: You know, there are so many

Speaker: times that this kind of movie

Speaker: has been made and it's been so

Speaker: fluffy.

Speaker: Like basically, both Nickelodeon and Disney prides itself on

Speaker: making movies like this, where we're just going to put out a

Speaker: fluffy kind of soundtrack that's going to show about why we want

Speaker: to be famous, put out a soundtrack, and it's like, it's

Speaker: the Miley Cyrus's.

Speaker: It's the, you know, that kind of

Speaker: we've seen this movie a thousand

Speaker: times, but we've never seen this

Speaker: movie.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: I don't think that it's been recreated since.

Speaker: No I don't.

Speaker: And honestly, it's just because he's such an electric performer.

Speaker: Like, he's he's mesmerizing.

Speaker: He is.

Speaker: It's like they've tried to do

Speaker: biopics and stuff before, but

Speaker: they do it like with actual

Speaker: actors, like playing other

Speaker: musicians.

Speaker: And it's usually not the musicians playing themselves.

Speaker: And so therefore it's like you

Speaker: really don't get the same kind

Speaker: of electricity from the

Speaker: performances.

Speaker: Like the musical performances that is that you do hear.

Speaker: It's like the inverse of, like what a biopic is today.

Speaker: It's just like you get actors pretending to be musicians, and

Speaker: sometimes they're great, sometimes they're not.

Speaker: But here, it's like you had a

Speaker: musician playing basically

Speaker: himself and doing his own music,

Speaker: and that just made it just

Speaker: incredibly entertaining.

Speaker: And just so just like you said, mesmerizing.

Speaker: And it's like you just want to

Speaker: watch this guy perform all the

Speaker: time.

Speaker: It's it's just so good.

Speaker: There's that moment where kid talks with his father, and he

Speaker: realizes that him and his father shared the same fears and had

Speaker: the same goals at one point, and that he is deathly scared of

Speaker: becoming his father, of failing and living in a shitty house and

Speaker: beating his wife and taking out all of his anger and all of his

Speaker: fears on a poor woman, and then just creating the cycle and then

Speaker: realizing that that's exactly what he's doing.

Speaker: Because in the next scene or two

Speaker: scenes later, he is hovering

Speaker: over Apollonia.

Speaker: He's about to hit her and he's shaking.

Speaker: And that whole series of events, I feel, sets this movie apart.

Speaker: And I it may not do what like have that message successfully,

Speaker: but it has a message.

Speaker: And whether or not you feel that

Speaker: message is successful is up to

Speaker: you.

Speaker: I feel it is successful.

Speaker: You may feel differently, but I enjoy that.

Speaker: It is trying to be different in what it is doing, rather than

Speaker: just being a movie that is trying to sell a soundtrack?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, I mean, plus one to everything that you just said.

Speaker: I think also this movie is trying to make it kind of like a

Speaker: celebration of music.

Speaker: Like music kind of like conquers all.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because like, Prince obviously is not a fan of his father, but

Speaker: he finds his music, right?

Speaker: And like, that one song is called Father Song that he finds

Speaker: his father playing, which, by the way, fun fact Prince was

Speaker: actually playing that.

Speaker: And I think his father actually wrote that.

Speaker: So beautiful, beautiful song too.

Speaker: But the fact that he is able to take the good right and like,

Speaker: try to leave the bad behind, it's like, what good can I take

Speaker: from, like, my father and carry on with me, but leave the rest

Speaker: of the stuff?

Speaker: And I think that's like the big

Speaker: challenge for him in the movie,

Speaker: right?

Speaker: It's like, how do I not become my father but still retain, like

Speaker: the good things that could come out of this man, right?

Speaker: And at the end, Apollonia kind of forgives him.

Speaker: Seems like after he does a killer set, you know, and

Speaker: because music conquers all.

Speaker: Now, do I agree with that?

Speaker: Do I think that she should stick around and see what happens?

Speaker: Probably not, because men who abuse typically don't just snap

Speaker: out of it after they, you know, have a great night on stage so

Speaker: that that part still kind of bothers me a little bit.

Speaker: But, um, but I think that what it is trying to say is just

Speaker: like, you know, how do we move on from kind of like the

Speaker: legacies of our parents?

Speaker: How do we find the good that we can carry on, you know, in spite

Speaker: of their faults?

Speaker: And also it's saying something about music.

Speaker: It's saying something that, like

Speaker: music can be transformative and

Speaker: it can move people and it can

Speaker: erase trauma, you know, and that

Speaker: message I think is, is kind of

Speaker: cool.

Speaker: Does it manifest itself perfectly?

Speaker: No. But I do think that that is

Speaker: a cool message that's trying to

Speaker: send.

Speaker: In the end, he does redeem himself because he has been

Speaker: treating Wendy and and Lisa so badly throughout most of the

Speaker: film that when he does finally play their song and writes

Speaker: lyrics for it and performs it and moves the entire crowd.

Speaker: It's just this lovely, heartbreaking moment where it's

Speaker: a tribute to his father.

Speaker: It's a tribute to his mother.

Speaker: It's a tribute to his band and his band mates that he have put

Speaker: through so much, including an impromptu puppet show.

Speaker: Oh, I mean, some things can't be forgiven, but.

Speaker: Damn.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's just, you know, and and he sings this song of forgiveness

Speaker: in a way.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, and you can, like, see

Speaker: it in their faces, too, like

Speaker: Wendy and Lisa, when he's, like,

Speaker: about to play the song, they're

Speaker: looking at each other like, oh

Speaker: my God, it's actually going to

Speaker: happen.

Speaker: And it's like such a sweet moment too.

Speaker: And that first, that first note, you can't.

Speaker: It's like, ah.

Speaker: And then he shows off his dance moves and then he.

Speaker: And then and then he brings it and then it becomes a party.

Speaker: And that's when it became a party at Cinespia, too.

Speaker: Like during, um, I would die for you.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And everybody, just like the four thousand people just stood

Speaker: up and just started dancing their butts off.

Speaker: It's like we felt it.

Speaker: We were, we were we were filled with the spirit.

Speaker: We were the prince spirit.

Speaker: The prince spirit.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, I mean, happy ending, I

Speaker: guess for all involved, even or

Speaker: even Maurice and Jerome are

Speaker: grooving out at the end of the

Speaker: movie.

Speaker: It's like all is forgiven.

Speaker: Everything.

Speaker: They.

Speaker: They were lifted by Purple Rain, and then they celebrated with

Speaker: Prince with his victory of winning over the crowd.

Speaker: Mhm.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Which is the most important thing.

Speaker: Obviously keeping their spot as

Speaker: an opening band for Morris Day

Speaker: once again.

Speaker: We know where our priorities are.

Speaker: Um but no I mean end of the day this film I think that there is

Speaker: there are more people that love it than hate it still.

Speaker: And I think that but but I think that if you're going to show

Speaker: this movie to anybody who is uninitiated to Prince or to

Speaker: eighties movies in general, they're probably not going to

Speaker: like it very much because of the domestic violence and because of

Speaker: the misogyny and all that and all those things and the bad

Speaker: dubbing, but that's another story for another time.

Speaker: I think I can end with my

Speaker: favorite quote from letterbox,

Speaker: from user Jordan Rowe, who wrote

Speaker: a classic case of I know what's

Speaker: wrong with this film, but I just

Speaker: don't care.

Speaker: That is beautifully said, and I

Speaker: think a perfect way to end our

Speaker: recording right now and our

Speaker: podcast.

Speaker: Thank you Erin.

Speaker: This has been fun.

Speaker: Thank you Krissy.

Speaker: It has been fun.

Speaker: Are we both gonna just go and masturbate to Prince right now?

Speaker: I'm not going to say any comments on that.

Speaker: You can have the bathroom.

Speaker: It's fine.

Speaker: Oh. Thank you.

Speaker: You're welcome.

Speaker: And signing off.

Speaker: Thank you.

Speaker: Thank you.

Speaker: Cinematic.

Speaker: Problematic.