The secret of Alan Jones's success as a football coach is a guide to a successful live. Get out there, lose some sweat and don't rely on on other people.

Jones joins Nick Cater for this conversation recorded in Sydney in October 2021.

Alan Jones hosts the Alan Jones show on Sky News Australia.

Nick Cater is Executive Director of the Menzies Research Centre and a columnist with the Australian.

Jones and Cater have both contributed chapters to Australia Tomorrow, edited by Jake Thrupp, published by Connor Court. https://www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au/Australia-Tomorrow--Edited-by-Jake-Thrupp_p_461.html

Email Nick at watercooler@menziesrc.org