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The Connection between Body, Mind, and Healing with Sarah Lascano
Episode 187th March 2023 • The Connectedness Podcast with Rev Karen Cleveland • Rev Karen Cleveland
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What if we ignore our emotions, is there any harm to that? It’s easy just to eat those icky feelings away, isn’t it? Yeah, it’s super easy and it’s also a bad idea – on so many levels. Today i’ll talk with my guest Sarah about the connection between body, mind, emotions, and ways you can keep your body healthy by living through your emotions. She explains it not just chronic illnesses that can result from our emotional or mental state, but even acute injuries such as a sprained ankle.

And be sure to check out her free mini-energy session on her website!

  About Sarah

 Sarah Lascano is the founder of RayZen Energy, creator of the RayZen Lightwork Technique and Master Biofield Therapy Practitioner. She is an Internationally Recognized Best-Selling Author, Speaker, and Energy Medicine Practitioner.  

Sarah is known for revolutionizing health care because she helps her clients and audiences learn an integrative and innovative approach to healing that can treat resistant chronic illness. She has been featured in media outlets, including magazines and television. Whether Sarah is speaking to a group of 20 or hundreds, her audiences love her ability to bridge the gap between eastern and western medicine. 

 Sarah utilizes her diverse background that merges her engineering training with her practical spiritual wisdom. Sarah is known for her down-to-earth, heart-centered speaking style because it includes science-based solutions, authentic delivery, and content-rich strategies. 

Sarah’s website & social media links: 

https://www.rayzenenergy.com/ 

https://www.instagram.com/rayzenenergy/ 

https://www.facebook.com/rayzenenergy/ 

https://www.pinterest.com/rayzenenergy/ 

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frustration is different from anger, which is different from resentment,

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which is different from indignation.

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So, you know, we start to learn the nuances of these emotions

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and we can find them in the body.

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Welcome to the Connectedness Podcast.

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Just as you might have guessed, I talk about connection in this

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podcast, our connection with everything in the world around us.

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We're connected, whether we see it or not.

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Whether it's your connection with your dog and your.

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Or your connection with your God.

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Also, I talk about things that are more abstract, like your connections with your

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career or your land, your community, your family, your emotions, your body Life

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is truly all about connections, and the sooner we recognize this, the sooner we

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get to have an easier, more enjoyable.

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I am gonna talk about these connections through different lenses, but things

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like synchronicities and coincidences, or everyday little bits of magic or

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miracles that we tend to dismiss, it's important we pay attention to

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all of this to help us, like I said, live an easier, more satisfying life.

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So welcome to the show.

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I'm your host, Reverend Karen in Cleveland.

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Hello.

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Welcome back to the show, everyone.

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Today I am super excited because we've talked a little bit about the body and

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connection before, and I have an expert here that's that's going to actually

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talk about all these connections and, and what she has learned about the body and.

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All the energy around it.

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And I'm not going to spill too much because, uh, just stay tuned.

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It's gonna be super interesting.

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I'm really excited.

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So welcome to the show.

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We have Sarah.

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. Sarah Lascano.

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Is that correct?

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Yep.

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Correct.

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All right, thank you.

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So Sarah is the founder of RayZen Energy, creator of the RayZen

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Light Work Technique, master Biofeed therapy practitioner.

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She's an internationally recognized bestselling author, speaker, and

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energy medicine practitioner.

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Sarah is known for revolutionizing healthcare because she helps

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her clients and audiences.

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With an integrative and innovative approach to healing that can treat chronic

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illness, resistant chronic illness.

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She's been featured in media outlets, including magazines and television.

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Whether Sarah is speaking to a group of 20 or hundreds, her audiences love her

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ability to bridge the gap between Eastern and western medicine, which I love.

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Side note, Sarah utilizes her diverse back.

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That merges her engineering training with her practical spiritual wisdom.

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Sarah is known for her down to earth heart-centered speaking style

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because it includes science-based, so science-based solutions, authentic

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delivery, and content-rich strategies.

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So happy to have you here, Sarah, and I can't wait to dig into the everything.

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Welcome to the show.

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And how are you?

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I'm wonderful.

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Thank you so much for having me here.

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I love, you know, helping empower people's health, so thank you for having me.

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Fantastic.

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Yeah.

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And we can't wait to learn about it.

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So why don't you tell me you have an engineering background, which,

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um, is like 180 degrees from, uh, practical spiritual wisdom, right?

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So why don't you tell me a little bit about your back.

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Yeah, so I was kind of living the standard American dream of, um,

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working in logistics and sales and jet setting all around, and selling

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software and doing consulting.

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And my health crashed during my first pregnancy and that health crash.

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Um, I grew up as in a family of western medicine.

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Um, you know, my dad was a, a physician.

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Lots of physicians in the family, and there was always a pill to fix everything.

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And when this happened, the doctors had no answers.

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They told me to avoid the 90% of the foods that were causing me symptoms, and,

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and that's all really they could offer.

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So I set off on a journey to recover my health because I felt strongly,

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something deeply within me knew there had to be a way to undo what had happened.

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And that's how I discovered this entire way of being is

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through my own health journey.

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Wow.

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That sounds like a painful way to discover it, but that's awesome.

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So can you tell us a little more about, um, you know, what you discovered and,

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and where you went forward from there?

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Yeah.

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Well, I began to discover that the body actually, uh, has

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an intelligence and that it.

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Stymied.

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Somehow something was blocking it, and I had always grown up thinking

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that the body needed doctors to fix it, that it was broken.

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And I don't believe that now.

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I believe what I have learned is that the body gets derailed, it's healing

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ability gets blocked, derailed, uh, clouded, however you wanna think about it.

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It, it's not connecting and firing the way it.

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But once we restore that, all of a sudden the body can start healing

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and it can happen very, very quickly.

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And I believe this is why we have cases of spontaneous healing.

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You know, there's spontaneous remission of cancer, there's spontaneous healing.

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Um, it's miraculous when it happens.

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It's amazing.

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And I think this is why it, the body somehow get.

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Re it, it, it gets reconnected.

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And that's what I do through my work.

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So I really learned about this, this foundational principle, and then I

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learned that the mind and the body are actually deeply connected and

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what we, what is going on in our soul, in our mind, in our thoughts.

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Deeply affects the physiology of the body.

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And this has been proven through research.

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Now, uh, we have research to back this up.

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It's not just a woowoo idea anymore.

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It's truly reality, right?

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And so this, these are the principles that I'm using.

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Wow , so so tell me about your process then.

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How do you help others then reclaim health and, and their lives?

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And let's say someone comes to you with, you know, a really bad backache or a

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sciatica or even a chronic, just a, a, you know, chronic inflammation, maybe.

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What, what's your method?

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So what makes my work a little different is I tune into the body

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and let it tell me what it needs.

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So this is kind of, um, it's kind of a different process because

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I don't intellectually know the reason for everyone's dysfunction,

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because we all have unique stories.

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We all have unique experiences, but your body knows the body has this amazing inte.

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And so I tune in intuitively.

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I use my intuitive skills that I have.

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Um, nurtured and trained and practiced with, and the body, you

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know, I can feel sometimes what the body is, is experiencing.

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I can hear where it wants me to focus.

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I can see a blockage somewhere, and I fix those problems, those blocks,

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those stresses that have accumulated and, and derailed the body so that

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the body can then start to get better.

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So, for instance, in low back, We carry a lot of tension in our muscles

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and we have a lot of imbalance in our muscles, and that creates

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tightness, that messes up our posture.

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It disturbs our alignment.

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It creates tension in the paraform muscle and other muscles that pinch the nerves.

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Mm-hmm.

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and create pain.

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So we have so many mechanisms that when we move this energy that is stuck.

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All of a sudden the muscles can relax.

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All of a sudden the posture can balance and we can get very quick relief.

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Now, I can't tell every single person that has low back pain that the, the,

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the paraform muscle is a problem.

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Right.

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But when I tune into the body, the body can tell me, with me knowing,

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you know, a, a, a little bit about the anatomy and the physiology.

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it sounds incredible.

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You have the RayZen technique RayZen, I don't know if I'm saying that right.

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So how does that work and how do other people use it or do.

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Okay.

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So, I have taught practitioners how to do this work.

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Um, right now I'm really being led to help people do it for themselves.

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So I'm really being led to provide accessible, usable tools that we can use

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anytime, anywhere, even, uh, so I have some digital sessions that I'm working on.

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Uh, really getting out there and making more friendly for practitioners.

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So my passion is to help change medicine like that is really what I want to do.

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I want to empower physicians and healthcare practitioners with

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tools that can help people address these aspects in an accessible way.

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So that's kind of a side note.

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Um, I have trained practitioners, there are things we can do

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at home to really help our.

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I'm actually in the process of writing a book right now, and I hope to include a

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lot of great information on, on this idea.

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Hmm.

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Uh, but simple things like working with our emotions, like trying to

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stay grounded in the present moment, um, acknowledging the stresses that

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we're under and how they affect our physical body and trying to lessen them.

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These are all amazing ways that we can decrease the stress and noise in our

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system that will help our physical health.

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We don't realize that the stress that we're under, the amount that

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we sleep, the food that we eat directly affects our immune system.

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It directly affects our nervous system, and therefore it directly

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affects our chronic health because inflammation creates.

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um, it affects the blood sugar.

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So you know just about everything, right?

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Diabetes, yeah.

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Yeah.

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High blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, chronic back pain.

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All of these are helped when we can soothe our nervous system, decrease

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stress in the system, and the immune system can get out of warrior mode.

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Stop attacking and start calming down.

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Private sessions with me.

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I specifically go after that and help people lower those

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things and correct them.

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But we can do a lot at home with some self-help tools.

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So I am in the process of trying to make more information available for folks.

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That's great.

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So I, I hear a lot about how our emotions are in our body

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and how we need to clear those.

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is this effective for things?

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Say I go out and I sprained my ankle.

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or is it just simply for chronic illnesses?

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So that's a great question.

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Um, so if we take a step back and, um, if we take a step back to the spiritual side

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of things, um, why did you sprain that?

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You sprained that ankle because there was a weakness in that area of the body.

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Mm-hmm.

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and it got injured.

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What caused the weakness is the real question and that is the root cause.

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Okay.

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So that's what I go after in all of my work.

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We're looking for the root cause.

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Um, the, the, so I believe that even injuries that seem

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random and odd are not random.

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I believe there's a reason that the body got injured in that way, in that place.

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At this time, I believe injury also helps loosen energy that might be stuck in

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the physiology, so we can work with it.

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It gets kicked up when we.

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Agitate, like, you know, maybe you step on a rock and cut the bottom of your foot.

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Well, if you look where that is on the foot, you might find

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there's a meridian right there.

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Oh.

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Or, um, breaking your finger.

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Like that's a, I've done that several times and it's a particular meridian that

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is related to what is going on psycho spiritually in my body at that time.

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So there's usually a link between the acute injuries mm-hmm.

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and something that the body needs to work with that it might not know.

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Psycho-spiritual.

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I like that.

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I like that term.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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That's perfect.

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So you're from this medical background with your family, a bunch of

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doctors, and you were an engineer.

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Had you already started on some kind of a spiritual path, or did that all

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develop because of your situation and, how did that start exactly.

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I mean, like, how did you.

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Learn what you know.

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so I was just, uh, a very analytical science-based, um, you know, left brain

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person, um, until my health crashed, I, I had a belt of food poisoning one night.

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The next day, I, I was violently ill for a few days while I was pregnant.

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Within two weeks I had joint.

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And food problems.

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I start, food sensitivity started accumulating rapidly

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after that food poisoning event.

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Um, I thought it would all go away when, when the baby was born, but it didn't.

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We both had health issues, so I launched off on a mission to like a mom

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on a mission that was me, to recover my health and to recover my child.

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Through that process, I started learning about tools because I was desperate.

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I mean, it was desperation that led me down this path, right?

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And, uh, I started learning about E F t emotional freedom technique.

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I started tapping, I started learning what the, I mean, I didn't even

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have any emotional intelligence.

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I, I could probably barely name five emotions.

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Uh, now I routinely work with a list of 250, so I started

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learning a little bit more.

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Yeah, there's a lot, right?

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Um, frustration is different from anger, which is different from resentment,

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which is different from indignation.

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So, you know, we start to learn the nuances of these emotions

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and we can find them in the body.

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But anyway, um, experience and desperation.

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And self-reflection and reasoning more.

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And along the way I was led to different resources to read different um, events.

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And then with the pregnancy of my second child, my forehead

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started suddenly buzzing.

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It was.

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Somewhat startling.

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I thought I was getting e m FD from my power grid.

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Um, but eventually, uh, the baby was born and, and, um, I wrapped my

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head in some faraday, you know, some shielding cloth and I still had it.

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So that's when I realized this was not a man-made thing.

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This was some kind of spiritual energy.

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Wow.

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And so it progressed from there.

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Wow.

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That sounds intense.

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. Very, it was fun.

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Yeah.

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now, I, I kind of laugh because it, it's really fun now because

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I'm like, oh, spirit's with me.

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I feel very connected when I feel circling in my hands or I, I still

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do feel circling and buzzing on my hands, my, my healing hands.

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So, um, that aspect is really fun.

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Now.

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At that point, I, I for sure thought that something bad was happening for me

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and the baby . Right, right, So do you, being the practitioner of these wonderful

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tools, um, for other people, do you take care of yourself in the same way?

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I mean, is there a, a routine that helps you stay, you know, keep your energy in,

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check and keep your physical body in?

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You know, I'm still working on that.

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I'm a busy mom.

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I have three young children.

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Um, so I'm still, do, you know, trying to get that good balance.

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I routinely do my detox, sauna and relax, uh, meditate when I'm in there.

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Um, I try to meditate each day.

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I do have a spiritual practice.

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Um, I also live out in the woods.

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I live on 18 acres where when I'm home, I'm away.

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It's like a little retreat, which is really wonderful.

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Yeah, I try to spend time out in nature and I, I stay

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really grounded with my kids.

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Um, they really do keep me grounded.

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I do work on myself a little bit.

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Uh, but normally I, I have a community of practitioners that I rely on

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and we help each other, we trade.

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So those are the ways that I personally strive to keep my

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energy clear and grounded.

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Yeah.

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So a support group basically for you.

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Yeah.

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That's, that's really important, isn't it, for everyone, to know that

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they have the support of others.

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You can also know for one of them that, that they have, you know,

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the ability to heal as opposed to them knowing it for you.

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So, uh, that's fantastic.

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So what are some steps, some people can, people can take, you know, my

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listeners can, um, if they're feeling something, what's a, some steps

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they can take to help regain their.

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So, um, if you, if you want easy and simple, I, I have a 10 minute

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audio session that balances stress.

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It's a stress less.

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Mini session on my website for free.

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Anytime you feel stressed, anytime you feel hyper, uh, you know, amped up,

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anxious, anything like that, you can listen to this and it will balance your

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nervous system, your endocrine system, and your mind to help bring calm.

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So that's a real simple, do-it-yourself kind of thing.

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You can use 24 7.

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, one of the most important things you can do to maintain your health, because

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what What we wanna do is prevent energy blocks in the first place, right?

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We wanna be proactive, is to work with what comes up.

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You have to get to the point where you're willing to work with your emotion, and

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that means if you get angry, not flipping on your phone and distracting yourself.

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Mm-hmm.

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, that means feeling the anger.

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Uh, expressing it in a way that is safe for you.

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So that, that could be journaling, it could be praying,

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it could be, um, meditating.

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It could be walking out in nature.

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It could be pounding a pillow, whatever it is.

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Um, it doesn't mean we have to express it to people, we have

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to express it out of ourself.

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Okay?

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So working with our emotion, whether it's anger, whether it's fear,

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anxiety, whatever it is, uh, is the most important step because

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we are taught that we shouldn't.

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That emotion is a weakness.

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Showing emotion is a sign of weakness and it means you're out of control.

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But that's really not true because when we control it and push it back down into

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our body, we are creating an energy block.

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We are creating some kind of storage of, of energy that is blocking our body.

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Okay?

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So that is really the most important thing, is to become aware of your

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emotions and be willing to work with them.

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when you work with people in, individual appointments, do you

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need to see them in person or do you work online with them somehow?

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I do, I do a lot of remote work.

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Uh, probably 80% of my work is over the phone or over Zoom.

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I do work with people all over the world, and it works just as well.

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I, I tell people.

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, you know, it's really what you believe, but, um, it does, it

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works just as well over the phone.

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Yeah.

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And does the person, the client need to be in any particular position?

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Like, do they need to be laying down?

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Do they need to be sleeping?

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Do they need to be awake and aware?

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Um, what, what is their conscious role in.

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Their conscious role is to be open to receiving healing.

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Mm-hmm.

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, that's really all it takes.

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So the calmer and more centered and quiet the person is during the session,

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the more likely they're going to feel the energy, which is always nice.

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Yeah, it's always a affirming for people to connect with sensations in their

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body that are happening, tingling, heat movement, um, even digestive, gurgling.

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Um, all kinds of things happen during sessions when energy is moving, but,

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Uh, but there is really no limitation.

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I've done, I've done sessions for people when they're flying

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across the world on an airplane.

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I've done sessions for people when they are sleeping, you know, so

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there's, there is no absolute mm-hmm.

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, but I prefer to have people with me and in a quiet state, whether

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that's sitting lying down.

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Anything.

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I've even had moms doing dishes while they're doing

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sessions, but I don't advise it.

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It's not my preference.

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Alright.

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So on a little, little more personal note, how does your, um, Western family

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feel about what you're doing now?

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Do they think you've gone off the edge Yeah, I think they thought

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I did for quite a long time.

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Um, . Uh, but what happened?

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It's actually a great story.

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I was actually a little bit afraid to share too much

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because it was kind of weird.

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Yeah.

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Um, but they were supportive.

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They love me, um, but they didn't wanna know too much.

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Uh, but what happened actually is my father had to have a back fusion

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surgery and it was really trauma.

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And he had a very difficult time recovering.

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He, he was, he lost his appetite completely and as a physician, he knew

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that he needed to eat to be able to heal.

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So three weeks after his surgery, he still was having a terrible time

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eating with his sense of taste.

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Everything was revolting and I was able to fix that for him

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in one session very quickly.

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Wow.

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And that was all it took.

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He's like, I don't know how that worked, but that was amazing and

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I'm very grateful that it worked.

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So, um, so now he's, he's one of my big supporters.

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Nice.

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And do you believe there can be, but can there be a blend of Western

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and your energy work if someone.

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what if someone's just half on the edge, like, maybe it works,

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but let me go to the doctor and get my antibiotics just in case.

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Yeah, a hundred percent.

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Um, I work with people who are on cancer journeys.

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I tend to work with people who are quite ill in addition to people

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who just want to be their best.

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Okay.

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Uh, but I deal, I, I work with people who are dealing with chronic pain

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and are on pain meds, or they're hospitalized with anxiety or.

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They're on antidepressants for severe depression.

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So these are all things that, that I have a lot of experience with.

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And the beauty of this kind of work is it's 100% complimentary.

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There is no side effect, there is no interaction of drugs.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's all beneficial.

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And as we strengthen the body, those medications work better.

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And cancer treatment, you know, chemotherapy or whatever

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agent it is, things work.

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As we help the body be stronger, this type of healing into a doctor's

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office where doctors can do what they do, I can help do what I do,

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and the patient gets better faster.

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Have you run into a situation that you, you feel like you're fighting against

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the Western medicine, like maybe it's taking the patient down the wrong.

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And, I mean, I know you're not a physician, you're not, you can't

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diagnose, you can't do anything like that.

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But do you feel like sometimes you're fighting against western

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medicine in a, in a person's body?

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No, I don't.

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Okay.

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Um, and that is because we all, you know, I have a very deep respect for

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free will, and we all have a choice and we make the best choices that we can.

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I more often feel that I'm fighting with the person because the person

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isn't able to stand up for themselves and advocate, or they're not able

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to leave a destructive relationship.

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Or they're not able to.

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And, and we're, I'm not fighting with the person.

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I'm trying to free the energy that is keeping them stuck.

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Right?

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So that's really what I'm doing is freeing what is binding

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people into the current moment.

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So, um, no, I never feel a conflict with a person's chosen treatment plan.

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They might start to feel a conflict and want to choose a different

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way, like maybe they decide.

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that they would rather tr try some, um, at home or natural, more natural

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remedies for an earache than go to the hospital to go to the doctor

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and get the antibiotics first.

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Right.

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You know, first.

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Um, uh, but, but yeah, I think it's completely complimentary

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and that's really the beauty.

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That is the beauty of it, because I, I could see.

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You know, being afraid of having some kind of judgment.

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It's like, well, if, if she n finds out I'm going to the doctor, you know,

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she might not be able to work with me.

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But, so that's very good I, I love knowing that, that they're, they work together

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no matter where it is on the spectrum.

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So, this is so fascinating.

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I'm not even sure what questions I haven't asked.

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Is there more information that, um, you want the listeners to know that,

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that I didn't ask about that we didn't?

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Yeah, the only thing that's popping in my mind is the, the body and the mind have

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a very, very, um, discreet connection.

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It's not just this.

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Esoteric thing anymore.

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And the way that this works is our nervous system is immediately

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triggered by what we think and feel.

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And that happens with hormones.

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It happens with adrenaline, cortisol.

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We have neuro peptides that, that our emotional communicators in our body

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and so many more are neurotransmitters.

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So when we feel an emotion, A whole chemical cascade is kicked off.

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That then affects our physiology.

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So this is really how the mind and body are connected and it's real.

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Um, we can't deny it.

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We can't talk ourselves out of it.

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It just happens.

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Yeah.

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So I, I just want to really help the listener understand that this matters.

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You know, we've always minimized our emotion.

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We've always minimized our thoughts, our mental state, our stress, uh, but

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this really affects our physical well.

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Yeah, it really does.

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So what a lot of people don't know is my history, um, was in pharmacy.

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So from the time I was 19 years old, I worked in pharmacy

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for many, many, many years.

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And, uh, I did some work with the studies, investigational studies,

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and I was always amazed at that time.

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So I, I was not on my spiritual journey yet at the placebo.

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And looking at the results of the placebo versus the actual drug.

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And it's like, why take the drug?

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Sometimes the placebo is actually better.

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. Yeah.

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. Yeah.

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So that's, I mean that's, you know, as far as I'm concerned, scientific proof that

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they don't put out there that, um, your belief is very important with the bar.

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Very important.

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Yeah.

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. All right.

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Well, I, I'm so grateful you were here today.

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I will, of course, post all your links on my, um, on the show notes, but do

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you wanna tell anyone where they can find you and, you know, if you have

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anything coming up that you wanna share?

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Sure.

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Um, so you can find me@rayzenenergy.com.

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That's r a y z e n energy.com.

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I have lots of great information and free resources on my websites.

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There's.

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Lots there.

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And, um, you know, the Stressless Mini is really the best way.

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If you're curious what this kind of work is like, it's a great way to just

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check it out and experience it for yourself from the comfort of your home.

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Um, and I do have, um, digital sessions that are available for

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purchase on my website and they cover all sorts of ailments, back

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pain, allergies, um, liver detox, uh, so lots of fun sessions out there.

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So that's something if, if this work calls to you, It's a way to play around with it.

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Are those pre-recorded sessions?

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Those specific A.

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Okay.

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Oh, that's nice.

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So I can just go on and I don't have to make an appointment if I need one.

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Liver detox for example.

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That's right.

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And those sessions are designed to be listened to more than once.

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So it's like a self-help tool that you have available to you in your

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listening library anytime 24 7.

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So they're pretty nice.

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They're pretty, um, accessible and co.

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Fantastic.

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That's great news.

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I, I'm excited to go explore a little more.

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I didn't see those yet, so I'm gonna go back to the website.

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Thank you so much and I look forward to, to helping get this word out there

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because I fully believe, of course, that our mind body connection is very important

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and, and for the health of the world, we kind of need to get the word out there.

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So thank you so much for being with us.

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Thank you for having me.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Bye-bye.

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