We introduce a new co-host, Bob Ray; who will join Barry and Phillip on Open shudders: A Creepy Podcast.

In this episode we cover the beginning of one of the notorious serial killers in the world, John Wayne Gacy. We discuss his childhood and early adult years leading up to his notorious crimes against young men and teen boys.

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