Welcome to the most unhinged beauty conversation we’ve had yet.

In this bonus game episode of The Iconic Midlife, Roxy is joined again by Julie Obst and Alana Ungvari of LA Beauty Connect for a rapid-fire round of:

Snatched or Sketchy? 👀

From facelifts and fillers to surgery recovery culture, TikTok beauty trends, “preventative” procedures, influencer transparency, and Beverly Hills beauty standards… nothing is safe.

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Funny, chaotic, brutally honest, and slightly terrifying.

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Facetuning your consultation photos before showing them to the surgeon.

You're not ready, you're doing yourself a disservice.

So they should see the real deal.

They're not dating you, they're not trying to have sex with you.

A surgeon with incredible results but terrible bedside manner.

I think for most people spending this kind of money, you should have someone who's able to communicate with you in a kind way.

Mini facelift versus a full facelift.

There's a misconception.

Sketch.

Right, Sketch.

Isn't it all a facelift? It's all a facelift.

What's a meal or a snack to me and you are going to be two different things.

Getting surgery because of a divorce. Snatched.

Snatched.

Snatched.

How empowering. I would imagine.

Yes.

And then if they ask us, you know, hey, I need a stylist, I need a facialist, I need to get my hair done. Like we are stacked with recommendations so.

You can do it all. What is the best piece of advice that you would give your 25 year old self?

Start your own business sooner.

Yes. Have ownership in something.

Absolutely.

This game is called Snatched or Sketchy. So basically I will read a scenario to you and Snatched would be a smart, good move and sketchy would be a red flag.

It's overrated, it's dangerous or unnecessary. So let's get into it. Okay, the first one is. Hold on, let me put more readers on. Here we go.

Getting a facelift before 50 as a preventative maintenance.

Snatched.

Oh, Snatched. Okay, Snatched. So is there like an age that you're seeing that's like a good age to do a facelift?

There's a lot of conversation right now about doing it before menopause and then doing and then.

Cause what people tend to do is they go non surgical and topical as much as they can until they're like, oh, I can't take it anymore, I need this facelift. So what's being recommended now is quite the opposite. Get the facelift and then do the maintenance, then do the stuff.

But I don't think it's, well, your tissue healing. Yeah, your tissue. Yes, when you're younger. But it's also like it's not necessarily by the age. Each person is really just so different.

It depends on, you know, once you've fallen and can't get up your jowls.

When you see jowls.

Oh, go. I know, that's what I feel like. The jowls are popping like especially in the last couple years for me. So I'm like, it's Gonna be time I need to get.

Pick these. Pick these girls up, you know, I mean, it just. But it hits and it's like all of a sudden you feel like everything starts going south almost.

You know, it's like gravity really kicks in.

Gravity is a real concept.

Yes, it is.

Gravity is a bitch.

Gravity is a bitch. I never used to pay attention to that gravity. And then, you know, this gravity snuck up and then that's it.

Yeah.

Recovering from surgery alone, because you don't want anyone to know. Okay.

Sketchy and dangerous, Right?

So dangerous and sad.

Yeah. And it is sad. Yeah.

Because you do go through a range of emotions right after a surgery, especially a plastic surgery, where your look changes. You know, I. I know my friend who had the facelift, she said she went through, especially in those first few days.

My gosh, the roller coaster of emotion.

Yeah.

You know? You know, so it's good to have some sort of support with you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Women showing full post op recovery videos online. Snatched or sketchy?

Boring. I don't think it's snatched. I definitely don't think it's.

I don't know that it's necessarily sketchy.

I don't know who wants to see it. I just been there, done that.

You know, I will say I like the transparency of it.

Like, I like that if they're truly being transparent and saying, you know, this is what I'm feeling, like this is what going through, I think that can be helpful for people that might be considering it, but there's a lot of social media.

As long as it doesn't become their whole personality. Like, there are people who a year later are like, so that facelift and you're like, it was a year ago. Just, you look beautiful.

Like, go live your life. Like, you look amazing. Go.

Yeah, do, like, do your thing.

Live your life.

Right. Dating during facelift recovery, do people do that? I don't know. Do they?

Well, sketchy.

Cause facelift recovery is what, like six months at least? Right. Or longer or less recovery.

Six months. You're in trouble if you're still recovering.

But isn't it still like swollen and puffy or. No. Are you Totally.

I mean, technically, you're still swollen by. At like, by three months. You should be fine.

Okay, so three months is kind of the thing. Yeah. Okay.

I mean, technically, sure, you're probably still swollen at 6, but. But like, yeah, no, you shouldn't really be swollen at six.

Okay. So like three months is sort of the marker.

Yeah.

So if they want to date, what do you say?

I'm very big on being like, do not have sex after your face.

Oh, that's her favorite thing to do.

You can't have sex.

She loves. This is her big thing. At like three days, she goes, you know, you can't have sex for like two weeks. She likes to see people's reaction.

Like, is this person.

Do they have an active sex?

She likes to break it to the client.

Oh, that's funny. So what do people. What are the reactions that you hear?

Some people go, oh, please, that makes no difference to me. And some people are like, oh, okay.

And what are the partners saying? Are the partners like, usually we're not.

In the room for that conversation, for their reaction.

Some people are like, oh, great.

Yeah.

Yeah. They're like, great. Another reason to not do it.

Yeah.

It is midlife face tuning your consultation photos before showing them to the surgeon.

Sketchy.

So sketchy.

Right?

You're not ready.

You're doing yourself a disservice.

So they should see the real deal.

They're not dating you. They're not trying to have sex with you.

A surgeon with incredible results, but terrible bedside manner.

Can you think of somebody snatched for Julie?

Snatched for me.

Oh, okay.

I got a tummy tuck with somebody who had maybe the worst bedside manner you could find in a surgeon. Real asshole.

Really?

But maybe one of the best mommy makeover doctors there are. He's like the godfather of.

He's retired now. Julie has the best stomach in la, as a matter of fact. Julie show everyone.

Yeah, just total a hole. But he did an amazing job.

So he was worth it.

He was worth it. He was worth it.

I'm split.

Okay.

I could take a doc. Personality wise, I could handle it.

But I think for most people spending this kind of money, you should have someone who's able to communicate with you in a kind way.

I would like ask him a question. This is before we had our company, by the way. But I would ask him a question and he'd come back in the room and be like, what?

And I was like, is this guy for real?

You're like, you're only about to cut me open, right?

Like, yeah, it's kind of crazy, but that is crazy.

Do you see mostly facelifts in your business or is it mostly like the mommy makeovers?

Like 70% facelifts right now. Right now. Facelift, 30% bodywork.

Okay, okay, good to know. Mini facelift versus a full facelift.

There's a misconception.

Sketch.

Right?

Sketch.

Isn't it all a facelift? It's all a facelift.

Yeah.

Whether you lower up, what's a meal.

Or a snack to me and you are going to be two different things, but you're eating in both scenarios.

Yeah.

People like to call things mini when they want to take away, like, the punch of what it is you're doing.

If it makes you feel better. If it makes you feel better, sure.

Right.

It's a mini face off.

You're getting a demure makeover.

Yes, demure, demure. Very ladylike.

Right.

Getting surgery because of a divorce. Snatched or snatched. Okay, do you see that a lot? Like, do you see a lot of clients that are like, okay, I'm doing this for me now.

Yes. Yeah.

That's empowering, I would imagine.

100%.

And then, you know, if they ask us, you know, hey, I need a stylist, I need a facialist. I need to get my hair done. Like, we are stacked with recreation.

So you can do it all 100%, the full package.

Yes.

If someone. If they asked us. Yes, of course.

Okay. This is good to know. I'm like, notating necklace becoming the new status symbol.

For sure. For sure.

Snatched.

And we were just reading an article about it. Snatched.

Oh, yeah.

Okay. Yeah, because that. I feel like that is one of the first places that I noticed was the neck. Like, the change is happening. So. Yeah, it kind of is.

A status lift is the new it bag.

Okay, okay. We like that. We like that. Men secretly getting facelifts.

Totally snatched.

Totally snatched.

On the rise.

Yeah, it is on the rise. So do you have a lot of male clients?

The.

I wouldn't say a lot, but a good number.

But it's been rising. The. The. The requests from. For men's surgery has hair transplants. Hair transplants, eyes facelifts, but not brow lifts.

Okay.

Yeah, well, that's the thing.

I think sometimes men get it wrong, especially with some of these people in the public eye that we've been seeing. They'll do the bleph and the brow lift, and it's, like, very dramatic for a man. It's feminizing for them as well. Right.

Yeah.

I almost like a man with a little, you know, crow's feet crinkle. Yeah, yeah, crinkle. Like little salt and pepper. Right? Little salt and pepper. Like, Brad Pitt still looks amazing even though there's.

I mean, I don't know if he has or hasn't.

Yes, he has.

Yes, he has had a facelift.

I don't know that from Brad Pitt himself or from the surgeon directly, but I'm Willing to.

But he may have had one.

99. I'm willing. Willing to bet.

Yeah.

So that's a. That's a. That's a yes. You think?

I think we've heard.

Okay, okay, okay.

You can safely say.

But see, he did it. He did it good. Like, I feel like he looks. He looks like himself. He does.

He looks great.

He's gorgeous like himself. I know. Yeah, he's gorgeous. I mean, some of the other like, wait a minute, you guys, hold up. We need to like dial it back a little bit.

You know, getting a procedure done and telling absolutely nobody snatched.

Snatched. You. Do you.

Do you.

Nobody want to do.

Yes. And I would imagine you guys operate in very discreetly.

Oh, we have an NDA in our contract that we have mutual agreement.

It would be the end of our business if we told anybody anything.

Okay. So there's. Everybody signs an NDA. Like that's a whole thing. Okay. Because I would imagine you do have celebrity clients.

Yes.

I was looking down your social media, seeing who followed you and who you guys followed back. So I was like, interesting. Not that they've worked with you before, but.

No, but we can't. We very rarely follow back. Yeah. If you'll see, we don't follow a lot of people.

Right, right, right. You're selective. So what's next for you guys? What's like next on the horizon?

We have some exciting stuff in the works, but we never like talking about it because we're very big on like jinxing things and not jinxing things. So.

So you'll have to invite us back to.

You invite us back.

Yes.

When these things come to fruition.

Yes, I would love that. I would love to chat more before I let you guys go. I want to know just a couple of things.

What is the best piece of advice that you would give your 25 year old self?

Start your own business sooner.

Yes. Have ownership in something. Right. Absolutely right. Because we don't know where things are going. Like, you know, there's AI.

There's like all these new technologies and things. Like people are getting replaced. You know, it's good to have your own thing, I think. Absolutely.

And what's the biggest midlife lesson that you've learned?

If it doesn't work, let it go. Bye. Bye.

Just letting it go.

And just, you know, trust yourself more and be less judgmental with yourself.

Yeah, that's a good. That's a good point. How are you guys living iconically right now?

I think the fact that we go to work with each other every day is pretty iconic.

And you don't kill each other, it seems like.

Not at all.

We fight well.

Yeah. I mean, honestly, we wake up every day and do exactly what we want to do.

Yeah. It's kind of the dream, right?

Yeah.

And clearly people are responding.

Yes.

That's amazing.