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And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

I'm hanging in there Rob. It's been a busy day. I feel like I'm going through the hamster wheel but everything's getting done. Just trying to go with it.

Well, that's good. We are a couple of days late and a dollar short. This week, I've been under the weather, so we didn't record, but we're recording Thursday. And if you're listening to this, it's probably the same day because I'm going to put it out here in just an hour or two. And or.

You're going to listen to it over the weekend. One of my good friends from Iowa, she, she texts me and she's like, where is the show? I was like, uh, this is why we haven't done it yet. And she's like, oh, okay. Feel better. I was like, said, we're going to try to do it tonight. So, um, yeah. Yeah. They, they, they know it's supposed to come out on Wednesdays and they're wondering why it didn't. So, um,

Wow, so we got people paying attention

We gave up, we're moving on.

Yeah, no, just I'm just so tired. I'm just so tired. and I'm, I don't even feel super sick yet. So I'm hoping that I don't get it. And it's just, you know, it's a quick, a quick little, you know, my body fights it off pretty quick.

Yeah, you're on pause and I'm running around like a chigga with my head cut off. Complete opposites today. Right? That's how it is.

Mm-hmm.

Gotta love it, huh? Yep. Hey, I'm looking through our list over here and we have a bunch of things that we can talk about. so, you know, for the next couple of months probably, we have tons of shit to talk about, which is kind of awesome. I wrote this one down and, you know, it's kind of an easy one, I think.

because we're a little older, but it's things the internet ruined.

Mm-hmm.

No.

boy. So, I mean, here's the thing. mean, I'll throw the softball at you first. What do you think the internet ruined?

Interaction between people it totally fucked it up because people don't know how to talk anymore we we go around texting and Not interacting and when you see a whole family at the kitchen table or in a restaurant at the table wherever they're at I've been to both and Everybody's on their phone. Nobody's talking it blows my mind because when I was younger

Yeah.

Everybody had to sit at the kitchen table and we always had people living with us or here with us and and you know, it was pull up another chair or scoot over we're gonna slide in and try to sit with you on one chair and eat our dinner and I can't tell you how many times over my lifetime we had to do that. That was normal in our house and and my mom would have had our asses if we didn't talk to her. That's why she had everybody there was to see where everybody was was coming from, you know.

Right.

So I think that interaction definitely is up there and we don't have to wait for a phone call anymore. Like people could just, we could go anywhere we want to and they could just get ahold of us whenever they want. And I think that that's kind of, it's, it interrupts my life now I've noticed, like when people are texting and stuff, I put the phone away. When phones first came out and I was raising my daughter and I was a

a wife like the phone it was always on it there was always something going on whether it be work or I'm fucking around on social media because it was all new or whatever the hell it was but now I just hate it so I put my phone down when I'm with people and I sit and have dinner with them and I don't pick it up and I don't want to hear from anybody I'm starting to get a little bit of stingy with my time

with people.

I absolutely agree with you 100 % on the social thing. think I've been in plenty of restaurants and I think about us as young people. And I mean, I'm talking like high school age, maybe just out of high school. You know, on the weekends we would drive over and like hang out in the Bob's Big Boy and just bullshit and laugh and you know, eat and talk.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And be like elbow to elbow with everybody because you're squeezing every last friend you can in. And yeah, and we were touching each other and pushing into each other, hugging each other. You know, was like interaction back in the day was like, it was very close. It was very intimate. I worry about these kids. You know, they're close on their phones, but are they going to be able to have a relationship for very long? It scares me.

Yeah. In the same booth.

It's going to be difficult and then I do agree with you. And I think we've all become like this less social because it is easier to text somebody and and it's easier and so quick to get a message to somebody. You know we have iPhones so I think that having having FaceTime at least makes it more personable because you are.

Mm-hmm.

I hate that shit too.

No, I'm, but I'm trying to at least give you a positive to a negative. At least with FaceTime, you can actually talk and communicate. So, because you're... Yes.

You imagine what we would have done with that when we were teenagers? my god, would have been... Yes! But... But again, it's not... There's no closeness to it.

Yeah, we would have ended up, I mean, we would have been, yeah, I think we would have used it more as a tool than a form of communication. Where, because we would have just been like, we're gonna go hang out at whatever people's house. You'd have two or three people on FaceTime as you walk down the street, right?

We would ended up walking over to the other place is what would have happened with us, but.

Yeah, you know, remember when we used to have like house parties and they wouldn't give you the information till right before the party? And so you had to find where they, and they always put them up in the same place, but you'd get the poster that was on the telephone pole that they put up there. And then you had to like call a certain number and then the number did something else. And then finally, by like third or fourth place, then you knew where to go for the party.

Right.

Right.

But it was to let everybody know there was a party without the cops knowing where to show up to shut us down. You know, was, I don't know, they're, kids don't have to interact like that. They don't, they don't even have to brush their teeth to talk to people face to face. I think that's weird.

Yeah, it's definitely odd. I think also with all that we're talking about the they don't understand how to communicate. We've lost how to communicate because of the internet. if know emails were a huge thing. I remember when emails were a big thing, right? And

Mm-hmm.

never liked them.

No, but that was really used only for business. Emails were really kind of made for businesses. They weren't even made for people. was meant for, it was trying to fix the fax machine issue, right? Where you could send a message to somebody and have a long reply chain to keep people.

Mm-hmm.

in a company together and brilliant idea. And the government had it for years before we did. But I think once you could just message somebody in an email, everything stopped getting personable. You didn't have to call anybody, you didn't have to talk to anybody. You could just leave it out there and then.

Yep.

If you sent the message, you didn't get in trouble, right? Because I communicated. And if they didn't pick it up, people just wouldn't reply. And I think it's the same way now with text messages. You just leave people on read. It's like, that shit sucks. And then try calling somebody. They, know...

Mm-hmm.

It's just a different thing. I think with the internet and phones being kind of the same, know, they're, since they're linked, you're right. We've lost how to be social with people. And that's sad.

Mm-hmm.

I think another thing with the internet that ruined even though it's a great thing is having to actually do research.

Yeah.

actually you know because like I like to listen to people who will call you stupid and they go you can just google it and I was like yeah but you know if you use google it's it's multi-dimensional you can get you know four answers for the same question because it's if it's you know if it's tilted a certain direction

You know, yes, if you ask it what, you know, a math problem is, it's going to give you the answer. And it's great because it's quick. But actually finding out real, real things, it's a little jaded, you know, where it's not, it's just not what it is. And we had to do work to find things out. Now everything's in the palm of your hand, which is awesome.

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

but it's also a problem. I think that what it's doing to people is it's making you stupid.

Well, remember, okay, so I remember we had a set of encyclopedias. Encyclopedias weren't A to Z. They knew everything. You just had to turn to the page to find the subject matter and then you could read up on everything. And then I had a dictionary that was the, it was ridiculous. It was called the Dictionary of Encyclopedias. So it had like a bazillion words and it was probably at least three and a half inches.

And it was a big book and to do homework like just to get definitions was insane It was so big and that's what I had to use and I remember making fun of somebody and I called them a pygmy and They were like what's a pygmy and I'm like, well, I know it's this and that but let me get out the encyclopedia and read to you What a pygmy is we laughed so hard because it went into detail

Like all these characteristics that could have been the person I was making fun of, but not really. And it was funny because, you know, we went the distance to get the answer, but now it's like you just Google it and you get a jaded view, you know, cause it is what it is.

Correct. Yeah.

I know. miss those books. I miss those books. Those books when the 94 earthquake hit, they got thrown away because they were ruined from being in my room and the fish tank falling on top of them. I do miss those books because they were just cool and they had real answers. So.

Correct, and it was, you actually had to work to get the answer. I think with the internet in general, we kind of have to throw social media into the internet, right?

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

What that has done to human beings' brains is very, very scary, right? We were talking right before we got on, I told you there's a really good documentary on Netflix called The Social Network, think. no, the, what's it?

Hmm, I'll get the name of it. It's basically a documentary about social media and what these companies are actually doing to us. It's very, very scary. I think it's called The Social Dilemma. If you haven't seen it, it's a must.

They basically break it down to tell you that these companies know how to get into our, they understand psychology and how brains work. And they know that if they keep feeding you enough of what you either like or hate, you'll continue to scroll. And that's what we've become. We've become doom scrollers where people, I forgot what the average time per day is.

Hmm.

on social media, but it's scary. It's ours.

media. Let's see average time spent on social media. Worldwide it's two hours and 21 minutes.

Hmm.

And let's see, the United States, we're right about that. So we're basically leading the pack with the exception of Brazil. Brazil, if you can believe this, has the highest usage on social media. The normal person in Brazil averages three hours and 49 minutes on social media every single day. We're weird about two hours and nine minutes.

It's rotting our brains. It's literally, it's making us into mush and it's making us hate each other. It's making us buy at a consumer level on such a level because we now are way more apt to just buy.

right? Because it's right in front of us. We can buy on our phones. can, you know, it the ad will take us right to whatever we need to do. So what it's doing to us is it's making it's taking what we all have inside of us is that, you know, if you're the chemical in your brain that goes buy it and

Mm.

And then we just have, we click on the link to Amazon and Amazon sends this to us in a day. So we're getting this, we're getting met, all our needs met so quickly now that we don't even care what we buy, because we're just gonna buy something tomorrow.

And that's what they want. That's what these companies are doing because of course people pay for ads and those ads are the ones that influence us. So the internet has just really made us into one dimensional little beasts where we just follow, follow, follow or.

Mmm.

or we bye bye bye. So it's very scary how what it's doing to our brains. It's making us just sit and look at a screen for hours at a time. Yeah, which I don't, I mean, I would like to say that our generation would not have done that. But, know, and I'm just saying that because.

Wow.

I don't know, because we were the generation that started with video games. And the video games kind of took over a lot too back in the day. Hours upon hours.

I think so you are correct. Yes, but I think that it was I mean I'll go at least with what we did. You know me and my best friend he got a Nintendo first. Like I had an Atari in the 70s. That's how old we are.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So, but I was limited because my dad would be like, you can't be on that all the time. So then I would, you know, I could play for a little bit and then I would get off. Then my best friend got a Nintendo and we really only really kind of played a crap load of it during the summertime. Because if it wasn't summertime, he was limited to what he could do. So.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

which is I think a lot of us were, at least limited to a little bit, where now, you know, the games are all on the internet. So they're playing with tons of people. 100%, well, look at iPads and phones. They've become, you know, they're electric babysitters and they're electric leashes.

Mm-hmm.

and it's a babysitter.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

And this is all because the internet allows us to be that close to each other. It's, I would love to say 100%, we've never been closer to each other, but never been so far away.

Close but not.

we've never been able to reach each other or two. Like you could pick out people from your past and see what's going on in their life where we never do that before. if you didn't, if you, people moved away, you just didn't hear from them anymore. You'd get a, you'd get a letter in the mail. You get snail mail and that was that. This is like, now I could pick up the phone and go back to 40 years ago and.

Right.

the one time i met this guy on a vacation you know what i mean like you could reach out to that and now now he's a grandfather and his wife died and you know what i mean like crazy how you could just do that but it doesn't beat sitting with them on the beach and having you know playing frisbee and doing whatever you were doing it doesn't beat that

Yeah.

I mean,

Correct. Now look, as much as we want to say how bad things are, I've got to meet people from my past that I would have never been able to without having Facebook. And these are all people from either school or old girlfriends, whatever. There is something to it that definitely has its pluses.

Hmm?

But I definitely think that, man, the internet has ruined so many things. I would say just people in general with how divided the internet has made us. Because with social media, has made us, I mean, absurdly separated from each other. And, you know, who would have thought

Right.

Gosh.

you know that something like that you know this device would just

where you could put one opinion up.

Yeah.

and it ruins your whole relationship with the person.

Life. Yeah. Or your life in general. Yeah. Or your family. Yeah. It's... Man, it's... Very, very odd. mean, look, you could lose your job. You could lose family members. You could, you know, there's so many... So many things that you could easily lose.

or your family.

Yeah.

and

Or you could not be able to get jobs because of pictures you put on Your your social media like we didn't have that there was no people when they got hired You were hiring somebody you didn't know shit about you just you know met for whatever the hour that you had her That you had a job interview and that was it Now they they check your social media. They check your your Your credit score rating they check like everything and they

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right, you were going.

They check everything. Yeah.

And they can! And it's all there. Like, there's no privacy at all to anything. And it also, I think it also- I'm sorry, go ahead. And I think it also messed up music. Like, now that we have the internet and stuff, we could watch videos, we could see, but it's all digital.

Mm-hmm. And, no, no, keep going.

Nothing sounds real anymore. Like I remember sitting in a concert and you could hear music coming from your right side and you could hear different things coming from your left side, but when it was all together just made this experience that you were sunk into. But now you listen to music from from, you know, the digital world and it's all flat.

Yeah, I also think just experiencing music like having to go to the record store and having to wait to buy it, you know, buy your your CD. I remember when it was 91 when Guns N' Roses Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 came out. I worked for the good guys. We had a tower records that was connected to us.

Mm-hmm.

I waited in line at midnight to get it. And yeah, yeah, I got off. I got off at midnight and I literally walked next door and waited in line. It was kind of interesting. But like I look at, I look at that where like those were experiences with friends and like you would go and you'd like, you know, it was camaraderie between people who liked the same music.

No you didn't.

Mm-hmm.

What about movies? Movies are the same way. Nobody goes to see movies anymore because everybody streams.

Yeah, yeah, they just wait now they're like,

We used to have drive-ins where we'd sit in our car and make out with boyfriends and watch the movie sort of. God, that was fun.

Yeah.

Right? Yeah, and it's I think it's just it's the Internet has ruined experiences. I think that's the better way of putting it. Yeah, these things that we all would do. Now they're like, and I've heard younger people like my son, who's he's a you know, he's he's a tad more Gen X, even a lot of people in his his age.

Mm-hmm.

Right?

you know, his age grade, because of me, right? So, but even so I can, you he's just like, I would say something, he'd go, why would we want to do that? We'll just wait, or I can just do it this way, or it's like, yeah, but that's not the point. The point is, is that you're going for the experience. Thankfully, like I've taken him to a crap load of concerts. So.

Right?

I was gonna say.

So he loves live music. So when we go for live music, he doesn't sit on his phone the whole time. He goes to experience the show, which is awesome to me. Cause you know, I think that too many people go to concerts now or events in general, and they

Don't experience a concert the way a concert is supposed to be experienced. you're supposed to go and see the show and watch the band, not record them the whole fucking time.

my gosh and people and they're recording with their phone. It doesn't even sound good anyway. It's so stupid.

no, it sounds horrible. It's absolutely horrible. Yeah. And it's just like, to me, it's just sad though, cause you know, they're so

They're missing the experience of being able to watch the show and they think they're going to watch this thing they've just done later, which nobody does. We have so many videos on our phones that you watch once or twice or you send it to somebody and you never ever watch it ever again. And it's like, wow, you know, it's

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

I think with the internet and phones, I'm gonna put them together because I think that, again, they kind of walk hand in hand with what I'm about to say. You know, I'm a photographer. You know, I like to take pictures of people. So I took some pictures of my friend down the street. She had done some lingerie stuff way in her past.

Right.

So I wanted to do some updated stuff of her. She's getting close to the 5.0, or she was at the time. She's finally turned 50. So I went and took a bunch of pictures of her and she picked what she liked to be edited and I printed a bunch of stuff for her. And I didn't tell her I was going to. I just printed a bunch of things.

Mm-hmm.

Nice.

and she had like a gallery on her bedroom wall of the first pictures so I made another frame exactly like it to give to her. Yeah so now she has both sets of when she was young now but I printed a bunch of stuff for her and it was funny because she was just like like really shocked and I was like these are the proof

how cool.

that your grandkids will see maybe not the lingerie ones because we did other pictures like ones of her in a nice dress and yeah you know yeah and you know like in a nice black dress and a nice white dress like i did ones that every single person could see because i always shoot pictures like that as well if we're gonna do something naughty you gotta do something nice so people can actually see my work so

I'm sure you did, Rahul. I'm sure you did.

Mmm.

But I told her, said, look, you know, and I tell a lot of these people that I've taken pictures of prints are the proof of them happening where all of the pictures we take now are digital and they're all on a hard drive or they're all in the cloud. And when you die, if someone can't get into that cloud, they're gone. You know, I have a box in my shed or my shed, my storage area in my apartment.

Yeah, they're gone.

And it's not a lot of pictures, but it's probably several hundred, know, all in their little packages from Costco or wherever we got them developed. And they're in a box that, you know, a lot of old wrestling pictures and some family stuff and my son when he was small. And it's great because I want someone to be able to take those later on in life when I'm long gone.

Mm-hmm.

And they can sit down and go through a bunch of these pictures and go like, man, look at, was young and crazy. And, you look, it's his boy when he was young. Or he can look and go, look at me as a kid. Where like now it's, everything's on a phone and we don't share those pictures. Like you rarely share them. You know, so we take all these pictures and like, we might post them on something and then, you know, they're gone.

Rarely,

Mm-hmm.

So I think the internet's kind of ruined that. It's ruined memories. I print stuff and actually hang it in my house. There's things, I have pictures on my walls because I think they're important for people to see and remember. this is one of the things that I think that, again, as good as the internet is, it has so many things that it's taken away.

That's cool.

Mm-hmm, absolutely.

And it's not even bad. Like, you know, cool digital pictures are digital pictures. And that's if that's your thing, awesome. But I it sucks because like I remember seeing, you know, pictures of my grandfather that I never knew, like in a a scrap in a book. And then, you know, pictures of my dad, when my dad passes away. I've already told my stepmom, like.

Mm-hmm.

I want some of the pictures of him from when he was in the army. Because my dad had like a greaser haircut and he had like sideburns and like he looked like a greaser. And I want some of those pictures because like it's cool to see that version of my dad that I never knew, you know?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Or I have some after my mom passed away. She had a couple of pictures of them together still in a photo album that got sent to me. And it was like from the 70s and my dad had this like horrible paisley shirt on and like he had like a big long sideburns, like big 70s sideburns. But it was cool and my mom had like this

Hehehe.

Like I'll call it a moomoo, but it was like, you know, like one of those seventies dresses where it was like long and flowing and had flowers on it. I guess it would be a sundress today, but it looked like a moomoo to me, but it was great. And I'm glad that I have those because I don't have to worry about them being digital and then, you know, something failing in them. I never have them ever again. You know.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, well the flip side is is the house could burn down and you could lose all the pictures that way so Digital is good. I mean it's got its good points because it's something you could always have

Absolutely. I'm trying to, I will argue both sides of that. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I would too. I still like to look at pictures. I was over at my aunt's house and I went to visit her. She's the last of my mom's siblings out of 13. She's the last one. We went to go over to her house and hung out with her for a couple days and she had pictures of my mom out that were pictures. I know she's had them out forever because I've seen the pictures before but it was like we don't have pictures of my mom out anymore because

We've since done some remodeling and things and I think it's hard for my dad, you know, to see them as much as, you know, if you were to put them out or whatever. But we just don't have our house put together like that yet. to go over to my aunt's house and to see the pictures of my mom at different ages and then to see my grandmother looks exactly like my mom in this one pictures. And I mean, exactly. You have to look twice. Is that my mom or is that my grandma?

Right.

But it was cool to see them because they were tangible. They were right there. It wasn't like, well, let me swipe and try to find this and that. I picked up the picture and it fell out of the back of it. And we all started laughing because it was an old picture. And I don't know. The experience of that was awesome. And I wouldn't have had that if I was looking at it on a computer.

All

Well, and the other thing that I like about, know, maybe not, maybe so, you know, pictures in the seventies, the developing wasn't the greatest and the color. Yeah, the color wasn't the greatest. just didn't have, they didn't have a way of.

They're all orange. Yeah.

dialing it in.

color grading them and yeah, know, fixing everything. Where now a lot of that stuff too is that we put it in frames and the sun faded it and a bunch of other things. But like, yeah.

Or it was one of those instant developing pictures that everybody shook and you're not supposed to shake them to dry it or to make it come out. So that's a whole generation of pictures that are crap.

Right.

Yeah, but it's great because like, you and look the pictures that I take now and I give to people as long as they're kept out of the sun, they'll look exactly the way they do now. 30 years from now. Because they won't degrade if they're not in the sun, but you know, these are the things that that I think that man. The Internet. Or as good as it is, it really has its its downfalls.

And like I said, I think a lot of it has to do with that. And I'm trying to be nice when I say this. I don't want to say, it's making people stupid, but it definitely is making things too easy for people. Like to the point where it's just, it's too easy, you know? And the flip side of that is we've talked about this on the show a ton of times. The good parts of it are like, if you need to repair something,

Mm-hmm.

Go to YouTube, it's there. You need to know how to build something. It's all there. And I'm talking about, you you could look up, I needed to know how to clean a gun from 1989.

Mm-hmm. It's all there. Yeah.

Mm-hmm, and it's in there.

And it's on there. The guy goes, yeah. I go, hey, how to take apart this gun? And boop! I mean, there were several of them, several videos on how to take apart a gun from 1989. So awesome, pretty awesome. You know what I mean? It would have been, you would have been hard to find the paperwork on that.

Mm-hmm.

that many years. So there is good about it, but I think you hit the first thing you said hit it 100%. I think what it's doing to us from a social standard and I'm talking all ages. It has made it very bad, like dating. It's made dating the worst thing on the planet.

Mm-hmm.

I don't know if it's the worst thing on the planet. I mean, I much prefer to go and meet somebody somewhere and you know, let there be a connection and then get hopefully get the phone number. As a matter of fact, that happened. That happened to me. was it last week or the week before that I was walking out of work, I still had on my apron. I was my nails were pink, my shirt was pink, I was having a pink day. It was weird. And and I'm walking to my car. And this guy goes,

Hmm. Well, yeses.

Excuse me. did you watch the news this morning? And I was like, no He goes, are you sure you didn't watch the news? like, I'm positive I never watched the news and he's like they just came out with this new law that you can't You can't be pretty and match your nails to your shirt It's against the law and I looked at him like I was dumbfounded right because I'm still thinking about the news because people don't talk anymore, right?

Yeah

Yeah

Right.

And I was like, I said, that's a good one. Thank you. he's and, he was like, well, it's true. And I said, well, thank you again. I didn't know what to say. So I just said, thank you again. Continued to go to my car and, and he left and he came back a few days later, like four days later. And because I walked out of the salon, he went into the salon and, I was like, he asked me out.

Right.

And you know what I said, yes, because he actually put in some F in work. Like the guys that you could possibly meet on Instagram or or a dating site or whatever the hell like they don't put in any work. They don't again, they don't have to brush their teeth to talk to you even. So so this guy I did it just because he came back. He had to look for me. Yeah, and I was like, smart man.

Right.

All right, that's true.

Yeah, well played.

Yeah.

You know what's funny? I could tell he was military too and he ended up being military because it seems like guys that are from the military are way more bolder than people that didn't go into the military. Not always, but I'm noticing it quite often.

Yeah, I would probably say that's true only because you know a lot of these people travel all over the world so like Yeah, and you're on girls that don't speak the same language as you

Mm-hmm. So they have to put themselves out there more.

shit, I didn't even think of that.

Yeah, so you have to, you really have to work. Right, so, and like I said, I mean, I think, like I said, I would hate to say that this is like a huge downer, because I don't think it is, but I definitely think that if we don't write the course right now in life,

Yep.

the next generation will be beholden to the internet for every single thing under the sun. Like you won't leave the house. And, you know, that's the last thing we need as a society is to lock ourselves up any more than we're already doing now. You know, COVID kind of showed us that, you know, we become

Yeah.

we become something that we really don't want to be. And that's all we had during the pandemic, right? Is just the internet.

Yeah, yeah, we could go anywhere do anything.

Yeah, it really kind of, you know, it made all these things that were kind of talking about the forefront of everything. You know, like, you know, had to watch TV, had to the internet. You almost have to have the internet to do anything anymore. I mean, a lot of these things, it's like make reservations, internet, you don't call anywhere anymore. You don't, you know, order food.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Who makes reservations?

I mean, you do if you go to a fancy restaurant, you have to. know, there's some places they give two shits about the future or the current way of doing things. They're like, you don't call, you don't get a table. But like food, you order food on the internet. We shop on the internet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Love going and getting recipes on the internet like I could I could pull up I could say you should show me Recipes that has this and that in it and you get a shit ton of of options. I love that

Yeah.

Again, 100%. There's so many good things about it as well. I just think that it's ruined people. Or it's ruining people. I don't think it's ruined anything completely yet. We can always turn the boat around, but people have to be willing to turn the boat around.

I also think that again, we get back to the family dynamics. We're now like grandparent age. So it's like, we need to talk about these things. We need to tell kids these things so that they know what life was like before all this, because at some point there needs to be an about face. We're going to have to change things up some, and it's going to take the older generation to teach the...

younger generation how to do that and I mean I'm glad that we're talking about this stuff because if they only knew if they only knew when they listen to a record and you could hear the the record itself like how it has its little dips and stuff in it but like the music comes from different spaces it comes from different speakers and stuff like that stuff these kids are never gonna understand unless somebody tells them

Unless they play music unless they you know, Vin unless vintage gets so popular that they go back to it, but it's just a It's an amazing understanding now like how my grandparents they taught us about things that I had no freaking idea And now here I am going oh my god I'm like I was talking to one of my clients yesterday and she's 17 and she's super cool and she's got this unmanageable hair and we were

having conversations about makeup and music and concerts and stuff and I was telling her different things because her parents are from different countries. So I was telling her about stuff that I did and she was like, that sounds like so much fun. my God, I would love to do that. I'm like, yeah, try it. You're missing out if you don't, you're just missing out. So I think that we're gonna have to.

kind of lead the way on getting people back to being more social and to taking more chances and to being more present. I don't know. Because I don't know where it's going to come from if we don't start speaking up.

Yeah, I like to go to my kid and like I will always tell him like I was around before there was the internet.

before there was microwaves.

Yeah, I remember getting the first one. Or home movies. you know, like, being able, like a VCR. I remember going to get our first VCR. Like, I remember it because my dad wanted me to set it up, so I had to get behind the TV and do it. But, you know, so I go to him and I go, like, you have it easy, dude. Everything you do is easy. We had to work for everything. Everything. So...

I remember it too. Yes.

Yep.

Right?

You know, like, you know, and to tell him, like, I remember before there was cable. If there wasn't 300 channels, there were six. You know, so, you know, look. As much as we can poo poo on the internet, cause it is easy. And it's, and is it easy to say, the internet's awesome. hundred percent. It's a, it's a good tool, but I hope that.

Yeah.

Somehow we dial it back a hair Just to get people out more because We need and I'm maybe I'm just saying because we live in a big city, you know We live in Southern California and we don't live in like a rural area. We live in the city part It's you know to see kids out riding their bikes is awesome like we need that again we need

Yeah.

Right.

kids to make friends that they see every day and not that they play video games with, you know, that live in different states or different countries. So.

Yeah. Yeah, I like when I hear, he's got a girlfriend in another state. What the hell is that?

Yeah. Yeah. mean, even even my boy, like he his girlfriend lives in San Francisco. Like, you know, six, seven hours away. Yeah.

Wow.

One of my first real boyfriends that I had lived right across the street. Like I could see his bedroom window from my bedroom window. It was that close. Yeah. It was way too like I would never talk to somebody in a while. I still wouldn't talk to somebody from another state as a, as, some, potential suitor. That's crazy.

see, that's awesome. Yeah.

Yeah, that's crazy talk. But I mean, you we come from, we really come from, you know, them being in the same city, like it was so common, you know, so I don't know, I, you know, I'm, I'm glad that we can, could talk about this and at least, you know,

you

Yeah. Yep.

If younger people listen to it, I think that they can get something from it. If you're in the age of us or a little bit less, you're probably agreeing with us and hoping that your children do the same. You know what I mean? And I think we can get there. I love parents that limit their children's internet time. I think that it's important.

Seriously.

You know, it's okay to let them understand and let them use it as a tool, but it can't be the only thing. They have to be functioning members of society.

Yeah, play with your kids and have fun with them.

Yeah, play with your friends. Hang out, get on your bike and ride through the neighborhood. go, you know, go leave in the morning on during the summertime at eight o'clock in the morning and then come back at five o'clock to eat dinner and then come back again at 10. Like, oh, it's the greatest thing in the world like.

Play with your friends!

Yeah, that was fun.

And here's my thing too, and I'll give you the video game thing right before we leave. If you're going to your friend's house to play video games, that counts. Because you're at least, yeah, you're at least going and hanging out and talking in person.

Yeah, you could do it in the same room.

But does it count when the kids are sitting right next to each other on a couch and they're texting each other?

No. That absolutely doesn't count. That is you're just a lazy piece of shit. Like, no.

But if you're in the same room playing video games and bullshitting during it, or one's playing and the other one's you know, sitting next to him bullshitting and you guys are, you know, doing whatever, at least you're in the same room trying to function as humans instead of being on, you know, a headset talking to your friend who literally lives 10 minutes away. So that would be my thing.

from.

Yeah.

Yep, yep.

What's your last little thing for this show there, miss?

the phones, the internet, all this stuff on social media, it doesn't compare to having a moment with somebody or spending time being out and experiencing the wind in your hair or the water on your foot if you're sitting at a beach or none of this beats that. So put your shit down and experience your life because you're missing it. There's a whole generation that's just missing it.

and it's sad.

100 % My last word is this touch grass and touch people. Because it's It can also get yeah, but be safe. It can also give you a baby. Or more. Well, give you a give you 25 years of 25 years of trouble.

It can be if you're doing it right

or more. That's another podcast.

yeah, anyway, check us out on Wednesdays. we usually put them out on Wednesdays. Obviously this is Thursday and you're listening to it today, but it happens every blue moon. me and Tina here, we're probably hopefully going to get ahead and we'll start doing, you know, shows will be out and on time. Yeah. Yeah. You know, life gets in the way. It happens. and yeah, that's a point. Touching grass and touching people.

It happens.

We get ahead and then we get behind. Then we get ahead, then we get behind.

Well, at least we're living it. Touching grass and touching people.

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you

See ya.