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AI and Jesus
Speaker:you’ve been wondering where I’ve been…I hinted at it last
Speaker:episode, but I know I owe you an explanation, even if you haven
Speaker:t noticed and its just me thats worried about my disappearance. I know
Speaker:a lot of podcasters break for summer but that was never my intention
Speaker:still isn’t
Speaker:Three weeks without an episode isn’t like me. I thought
Speaker:about quietly showing back up with a new episode and pretending
Speaker:nothing happened, but that felt odd. So we are going behind
Speaker:the scenes
Speaker:So today isn’t our normal science deep dive
Speaker:or natural health conversation as it typically goes. Its
Speaker:more about life application with a sprinkle of science
Speaker:or STEM
Speaker:Because something im so excited about and something that is pretty
Speaker:significant has been happening behind the scenes. Ive decided to name
Speaker:my office. I know. Sometimes Becoming Natural sounds a little too
Speaker:perfect for how I operate. Obvioulsy, the goal, but we are going behind
Speaker:the scenes at The Podquarters: the office of unsolicited advice. Bc
Speaker:really. It is
Speaker:“I HIT A WALL”
Speaker:A few months ago, I realized I couldn’t keep doing things at Becoming Natural the way I
Speaker:had been. I am a one woman show and no plans to do it otherwise. If you’ve
Speaker:been with me for any amount of time, you know I am not a fan of social media
Speaker:pretty much gave it up entirely. Ironically, not your typical reasons, but bc I never scrolled that much
Speaker:EXCEPT if a friend would send a dog video, which lead to more dog videos and before I
Speaker:knew it an hour had passed. My Gosh I love dog videos. BUT….It was a time suck
Speaker:for me and I had to let go….even of dog videos. So I took the social apps
Speaker:off my phone. And its glorious. SO…. I only dipped my toe into podcasting with a little bit
Speaker:of fear and a little excitement bc I heard a podcaster say once that with podcasting you didn
Speaker:t have to use social media. Of course, That immediately caught my attention. I knew I had a
Speaker:story to tell that could help other people and I had partially struck out with my dream of
Speaker:writing a book. I had my eyes set on a book for awhile. That went south when I
Speaker:started having a lot of anxiety and ultimately PTSD when I tried to get my story of sickness
Speaker:even followed by survival and miracles on paper. I couldn’t write no matter how hard I tried
Speaker:without extreme anxiety….see episode 3 I think about the amazing EMDR therapy I did. I still couldn
Speaker:t bring myself to write and I love writing. I did check the writing goal off my list
Speaker:when I ultimately was fortunate enough to write a chapter in an anthology. It was a God moment
Speaker:how it all unfolded and I was invited to be a part of this book and all I
Speaker:had to do was whittle down what I had already written. I survived. And that book was a
Speaker:b and n best seller, might I add. Only a chapter, but it felt so good. I added
Speaker:Amazon Author and B and N Best Selling Author to my list
Speaker:So when I heard that podcaster say I could do a podcast and not have
Speaker:to do any social media and it could be behind a mic without video with
Speaker:no shower or make up I was intrigued. I knew I still had a story
Speaker:in me mostly bc my hometown minister told me I really needed share it. His
Speaker:voice motivated me. I just always assumed it was a book. But I still didn
Speaker:t feel like I had totally accomplished the mission. When that vision changed to speaking
Speaker:and not writing, I took a breath and threw my hat in the ring. I
Speaker:didn’t have to show up in people’s feeds when they had no interest
Speaker:in what I had to say. People would find me bc they were interested in
Speaker:what I was babbling about. It was completely on a whim and I fell in
Speaker:love with it almost instantly. And it was really fun to watch my followers and
Speaker:listens grow if you want the brass tacks. My life and my story is not
Speaker:singular. We are all in the trenches in one form or the other. If you
Speaker:know me, I love to talk and I love science and Lord have mercy, I
Speaker:have been thru it all. I am trained in the medical model as an OT
Speaker:I am a past pharmaceutical rep, I experienced every kind of surgery, drug, test and
Speaker:symptom surviving Crohns Disease. I LOVE to read. I LOVE to research how I can
Speaker:help my body do better without the piles of medications and I have a strong
Speaker:faith. And yet, I still love a Coke, and a good burger. Nothing in my life is
Speaker:extreme. Nothing here is perfect nor do I ever want to portray that. I love
Speaker:my family, but my husband and I still argue, I have 3 handsome boys that
Speaker:I want to string by their toenails some day and others I just sneak into
Speaker:their stinky dirty rooms and sit with them while they sleep and pray over their
Speaker:lives and future. Initially, I thought I would talk about surviving Crohns….but found that
Speaker:my true passion is sharing how I have grown over the years. As a mom
Speaker:a wife, a Christian, How I learned to make better choices for my body. To share How CLUELESS I was to the things that were
Speaker:potentially hurting my already broken body, but I was too overwhelmed to address them or
Speaker:know where to start. I realized that Crohns was in my toolbelt, but it wasn
Speaker:t exactly my passion to speak JUST to people with Crohns. Crohns is just a
Speaker:battle and we all face battles. My target was coming into view. As I do
Speaker:with most things, I dove in headfirst and I spent so much time reading and
Speaker:writing and talking which I love all 3. But after awhile….the admin things, the
Speaker:details that go along with producing a podcast were the menial things I was trying
Speaker:to avoid and took away from time for my family. I procrastinated on tedious tasks
Speaker:I had sticky notes by my bed, in my purse and car and at my
Speaker:desk
Speaker:I looked around my house—and the stacks of papers to read by my bed, at
Speaker:my desk, in the den… studies I earmarked, books I started reading, notes I made in
Speaker:one notebook after another. I made good attempts with a planner for about 3 pages and
Speaker:then they were blank. One day it hit me that “I can’t keep living like
Speaker:this.” I have all this great information and its not being used well. Its not helping
Speaker:anyone. I have a passion for helping people coupled with a love for research and medicine
Speaker:and overlaying all of that with a lifetime struggle with Crohns and a miraculous survival story
Speaker:It was all parked in a brain that was overcrowded and stacks of papers I was
Speaker:never going to have time to read
Speaker:get me wrong, nothing was falling apart. I was in HEAVEN. I loved my
Speaker:life. Wake up. Read, research, write, go down rabbit holes, record. Repeat. But I
Speaker:realized with my wall of books pertaining to medicine, physiology and a growing category
Speaker:of plants I was quickly turning into the old professor with a dusty library
Speaker:and piles of GREAT information I would never find when I needed it. I
Speaker:had to change
Speaker:I had no system. I dove into this on a whim, never knowing what the long
Speaker:term goal was and certainly not thinking I would still be here. I had no order
Speaker:I am by nature an organized person. No one would believe it
Speaker:now. I love filing….i just could never find the file. I
Speaker:used to organize my sock drawer in ROY G BIV order. I
Speaker:blame a little bit of it on splitting my brain 3 times
Speaker:a house that will never be complete and I truly lost a
Speaker:little bit of my sanity when I was dx with PTSD. I
Speaker:have to tweak my brain every couple years now to not let
Speaker:the anxiety creep in
Speaker:I started 15 fabulous projects.
Speaker:Projects I wanted to finish. Ideas I had for the website. A ministry I wanted to build
Speaker:Things God had been teaching me.
Speaker:Things I knew would help someone someday.
Speaker:I wasn’t lacking ideas at all. I was exploding with
Speaker:energy while drowing in my lack of systemizing my
Speaker:flow
Speaker:I already joke that I live in organized chaos with 3 boys and 2 dogs (one being a
Speaker:new puppy) and a husband. I embrace the mess. I embrace that my house is lived in and
Speaker:not perfect. But after awhile, when my house was a mess, my desk wasn’t organized and I
Speaker:couldn’t find the phone I was talking on…. I knew I had to find a system bc
Speaker:my brain can’t operate without order and I had been limping along for several years trying to
Speaker:hold it all together
Speaker:My life was making the same decision over and over because I couldn’t remember what I decided yesterday or an hour ago for that matter
Speaker:I opened my laptop and spent twenty minutes trying to remember what I was working on
Speaker:and then an email popped up and I started filtering thru the 10,000 emails. The
Speaker:never ending 30 minutes of unsubscribing from emails that somehow subscribed you to 10 more lists
Speaker:for every unsubscribe. Which led me to responding to school about a volunteer opportunity and then
Speaker:balancing the budget bc I saw a bill come thru. Remember the book if you give
Speaker:a mouse a cookie? I have a fat mouse that used to get lots and lots
Speaker:of cookies
Speaker:I always had unfinished thoughts in my head….to which my husband made fun of me when I couldn
Speaker:t complete a sentence. I literally could not get the words out. Was I having a midlife crisis? Was
Speaker:my brain broken? This could not be the rest of my life….I used to be so pulled together
Speaker:I KNOW I am not alone.
Speaker:We’re carrying grocery lists, appointments, recipes, medications, birthdays
Speaker:including all your inlaws too!), bills, school schedules, work
Speaker:responsibilities, church commitments… and then my husband would come
Speaker:home and innocently ask me What I did today
Speaker:Oh my hackles went up. Ummmm…..worked on my
Speaker:computer. Because EVERYTHING is on the computer…and I was
Speaker:distracted by merging personal and work on my computer
Speaker:And I accomplished nothing
Speaker:And I wondered why I was exhausted before lunch.
Speaker:I really started to make major changes in my life to reduce the cognitive load and
Speaker:decisions bc I was losing myself. . I turned off my notifications on my laptop at the
Speaker:suggestion of my husband who is now the most irritated when I don’t know he
Speaker:texted me. That might be one of the best tiny changes I made. I took social
Speaker:media off my phone. I time blocked my days as best as I could until a child
Speaker:called and needed something at school. I even created a cleaning schedule so I could clean
Speaker:just a little at a time over the course of the week and always have a
Speaker:clean house. That actually was amazing until 2 college boys came home for summer and dumped
Speaker:their stuff all over my house. Not complaining bc I absolutely love it when there is
Speaker:a fleet of vehicles in my driveway. It means my people are home. It’s all
Speaker:comical. It’s all light hearted, but I was a little worried about my own sanity
Speaker:and the fact that I got overwhelmed easily and could not knock out 100 things in
Speaker:a day like I used to do. I REALLY prayed through all of this and I
Speaker:kept coming back to my own advice
Speaker:God is not the author of confusion. God does not create chaos
Speaker:This was all my own doing. I had to pull it all
Speaker:together
Speaker:Now, that doesn’t mean life is always neat and tidy and I am OK with that. I really am
Speaker:It doesn’t mean my home is spotless and my schedule still isn’t perfect. We
Speaker:are all a work in progress and I am in a constant state of BECOMING Natural
Speaker:But what I learned while creating podcasts for you (and we all
Speaker:know they are as much or more for me!) that the Lord
Speaker:really cares about peace and rest. Much more than I ever gave
Speaker:It credit
Speaker:And I was not practicing what I preached 50% of the time. The peace part was hard for me. The rest. Being Still
Speaker:I was spending so much energy managing chaos that I had very little energy left
Speaker:to enjoy the life or gifts God had given me and I was not prioritizing
Speaker:my time to spend time IN the word. In prayer. In the quiet. Outside. Soaking
Speaker:it up
Speaker:One night a few months ago, My husband was building models for work with Chatgpt and I
Speaker:flippantly asked if he could help me with my analytics. I manually tracked my podcast views and
Speaker:followers by hand every single month. Of course, he said and he showed me basic use of
Speaker:Chat. I knew nothing. I quickly found out as a newbie to ai that my limitation to
Speaker:ai was not knowing what I could ask it to do. I didn’t know how to
Speaker:talk to it and when I did ask it questions, I wasn’t that impressed with the responses. Why in the world
Speaker:did people like Chatgpt
Speaker:I very much take joy in writing my own episodes so that wasn’t
Speaker:interesting to me. But after a weak attempt at analytics, I asked it if
Speaker:it could write the podcast summary for my shownotes. Knowing that podcasts were found
Speaker:based on SEO I bought a book (I know sounds funny now) about using
Speaker:Chat for SEO so that my show notes summary would be a good summary
Speaker:Slowly, I learned and asked questions and studied ultimately creating a system DESIGNED
Speaker:to save me time in the long run. But I have had so
Speaker:much fun learning what I can do with chat that my little write
Speaker:my shownotes for my podcast from my weekly “research paper” become a robust
Speaker:constantly expanding operating system with forks here and there and subsystems and automations
Speaker:Because if I am building something to save time, I am going ALL
Speaker:IN. So I started building something that I desperately needed. Typing in ideal
Speaker:scenarios and creating a dream outcome. Automate this, post that. My husband actually gave
Speaker:me a double take when I told him he really should be using
Speaker:Codex for his algos. The next day he said the quants at work
Speaker:used Codex and how did I know that? Because I became obsessed. And
Speaker:it was fun
Speaker:I was learning something new. I was not only learning how to help my
Speaker:business move more efficiently (did you know you can tell it to remind you
Speaker:to do things…and then I asked if it could send that to me
Speaker:in email?), but I was building efficiency into my life. Now my analytics can auto
Speaker:check on the right day and update my dashboard among 1000 other things that
Speaker:I keep dreaming up. On the personal front, I even created a Monthly garden
Speaker:calendar so I know when to cut what back in my yard at what
Speaker:time of year. I am ALL
Speaker:So I started building a better way to manage my own life and Becoming Natural and it
Speaker:is so freaking exciting. I’m not done. Or close to done and I have logged hours
Speaker:and hours and months of hours, learning the hard way a LOT of the time. but even
Speaker:though chat is notoriously overly complimentary when you use it, it continues to tell me that the
Speaker:system I am bringing to life is more impressive than just a little summary and analytics model
Speaker:Its what professionals design for business clients. Ill take it. Even if its just stroking my ego
Speaker:a little bit
Speaker:Ive created a place where my research lives.
Speaker:Where my episode ideas don’t disappear and I can save all
Speaker:those sticky notes into organized files waiting for their turn to be
Speaker:studied
Speaker:A file to save the life lessons I jot down..
Speaker:A place where I don’t have to rely on my brain to remember everything, because this brain was fried
Speaker:But im telling you, I can see the light. I am reducing the cognitive load. And I am feeling freer
Speaker:every day. And my brain is working better and better as I let go of all the crazy in my
Speaker:head
Speaker:It alk a lot around here about inflammation.
Speaker:Inflammation in the body, from food, from stress.
Speaker:But I am the first to admit that my schedule become inflamed.
Speaker:My calendar, my home, my BRAIN with half thoughts and unfinished Todos on my list.
Speaker:There’s a meme out there about your brain having fifty browser tabs open all at once.100% me
Speaker:Eventually the whole system gets bogged down.
Speaker:I don’t think we were created to carry that kind of mental weight
Speaker:every day. None of us were. That’s why I hear from
Speaker:so many of my friends their brains are firing like they used
Speaker:to
Speaker:As big as this system is becoming and so cool it really
Speaker:is, I didn’t build it to do more, I started it so I
Speaker:could carry less. To clear my head of mental clutter. Do less
Speaker:searching, less remembering, and my word, to stop redoing the same thing
Speaker:Because every minute I spend hunting for a note or a file is a
Speaker:minute I’m not spending with my family or doing something FOR my family
Speaker:Or growing in my faith…
Speaker:Or sitting on my porch…
Speaker:Or doing what I love by simply researching and writing for Becoming Natural.
Speaker:I don’t want my life to be efficient as much as I want to be available.
Speaker:Available for what actually matters. With my half a brain at times, I
Speaker:wasn’t. I literally needed a control alt delete kind of a reset
Speaker:A LITTLE GLIMPSE
Speaker:All that to say. Soon.
Speaker:Soon Pieces of what I’ve been building will become things I can share.
Speaker:Maybe checklists or planners
Speaker:Definitely automated systems that help another overwhelmed mom breathe a little easier
Speaker:Perhaps tools that save someone hours every week.
Speaker:But this started because I needed help. I needed to get my act
Speaker:in gear and figure out how to pull myself up by the bootstraps
Speaker:and not only live. But embrace the wonderful, healthy, second chance at life
Speaker:I was
Speaker:And I have a feeling I’m not the only one.
Speaker:WHAT SCRIPTURE KEPT REMINDING ME
Speaker:1 Corinthians 14:40 says
Speaker:“Let all things be done decently and in order.”
Speaker:This verse is often quoted when people are talking
Speaker:about organization, but in its original context, Paul was
Speaker:actually addressing something much deeper than keeping a tidy
Speaker:church bulletin
Speaker:The church in Corinth was passionate about spiritual gifts. People were speaking
Speaker:in tongues, prophesying, praying, teaching—but everyone seemed to be doing it
Speaker:at once. Instead of pointing people to Christ, their gatherings had become
Speaker:chaotic
Speaker:Earlier paul says: "For God is not a God
Speaker:of confusion but of peace." (1 Corinthians 14:33
Speaker:As I have been working thru the Bible in a year, I am learning to really go back to
Speaker:the root of the work in Hebrew or Greek to understand what was truly being imparted with certain words
Speaker:What does "in order" mean?
Speaker:The Greek word (taxis) means:
Speaker:• proper arrangement
Speaker:• orderly sequence
Speaker:• intentional structure
Speaker:• appointed order
Speaker:It's actually a military term in some settings—soldiers
Speaker:lined up with purpose rather than scattered in confusion
Speaker:Paul isn't saying:
Speaker:"Everything has to be rigid."
Speaker:He's saying:
Speaker:"Everything should have purpose."
Speaker:This verse reveals something important about God's nature.
Speaker:God created:
Speaker:• the seasons
Speaker:• gravity
Speaker:• the stars
Speaker:• the human body
Speaker:• ecosystems
Speaker:None of these function through chaos.
Speaker:Creation is breathtaking because there is incredible and intentional design
Speaker:underneath massive work. Massive excellence that reveals itself with such
Speaker:ease
Speaker:I heard this illustration one time and I never forgot it: Think of an orchestra.
Speaker:Before the performance it sounds chaotic.
Speaker:Everyone is warming up.
Speaker:Different instruments.
Speaker:Different notes.
Speaker:But when Then the conductor lifts the baton. It goes silent.
Speaker:The same musicians don't become less
Speaker:gifted—they become unified and orderly
Speaker:Order doesn't remove creativity. It actually allows beauty to emerge
Speaker:A symphony, the sunrise and sunset, spring always bringing new
Speaker:life
Speaker:So I had to ask.
Speaker:• Does my life reflect God's peace or constant confusion?
Speaker:• Am I making decisions intentionally or simply reacting?
Speaker:• Are my words building people up?
Speaker:• Do my gifts serve others or am I not using them purposefully.
Speaker:Order isn't valuable because everything has to be perfect. It's valuable because
Speaker:thoughtful structure can reduce confusion and make it easier for people to
Speaker:flourish
Speaker:God is remarkably creative, yet profoundly orderly.
Speaker:When we bring order into our lives—not to control everything, but
Speaker:to serve people well—we begin to reflect something of His character
:23
:"Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men."
:Doing things "decently and in order" is one way our work, our
:worship, and even our ordinary routines can become an act of honoring
:God
:It reveals something about God’s heart.
:He’s a God of peace.
:Of purpose.
:Of order.
:Not because He loves rules.
:But because He loves people.
:He knows what constant confusion does to our weary hearts. And oh how my heart
:was weary. And look at how I tied AI into blessings in my life. Lol
:If you can use it intentionally and carefully, it’s a great tool in in
:our
:WHAT I’VE LEARNED
:So if you’ve been wondering where I’ve been…
:I’ve been building breathing room and gaining margin in the
:process. It has been so much fun. But man the hours
:I am so excited about a foundation that is going to last and allows
:me to show up here with more consistency, more creativity, and more peace and
:Stepping away for a few weeks wasn’t intentional and it wasn’t about not having time or desire
:I got carried away creating a healthier way to serve for years instead of burning out in
:a few months over the tasks I don’t enjoy. And that is was excites me the
:most
:ENCOURAGEMENT
:Maybe you don’t need to organize your whole life this week.
:You might have it together way more than I do.
:But I bet its safe to suggest to anyone to take One commitment off your plate.
:One source of unnecessary stress.
:Healing doesn’t always begin with adding something new.
:Healing begins by creating space for more peace.
:Thank you in advance for giving me the grace to step away for a little bit.
:Thank you for coming back. Don’t give up on me or Becomign Natural
:bc I have HUGE plans that are already in the process of coming to
:life
:I have missed these conversations more than you know.
:Im thrilled bc I feel like I’m building from a healthier foundation. I am in it for the
:long haul my friends! And im building this house out of bricks and prayer. The most solid of foundations