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Ep 94: Using Storytelling Techniques to Make Your Message Stick, with Payton Minzenmayer
Episode 9416th January 2025 • The Church Lobby • Karl Vaters
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Have you ever noticed that people don’t pay attention to sermons the way they used to? It may not be the fault of shorter attention spans (not exclusively, anyway). There’s a lot more happening — and we, as pastors and communicators can do something about it.

Karl Vaters talks with Payton Minzenmayer. He's a pastor, and the founder of ChristianStoryLab.com, a new website that offers great ideas to make our writing and speaking more engaging by using the aspects of story — just like Jesus did.

Some of what they talk about includes: 

  • Gamification
  • The Open Loop Method
  • The Anapastic Meter

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You can follow Payton on LinkedIn and X.

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3 Simple Habits to Elevate Your Writing and Speaking, with Payton Minzenmayer

Storytelling is the most powerful form of communication. But most of us could use help to do it better. Karl Vaters talks with Payton Minzenmayer, of ChristianStoryLab.com, about the three habits Payton uses every day to strengthen his storytelling muscles. They’re simple, repeatable, and so helpful.

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