Ilse sits down with comic and cultural icon Christina Gutierrez—yes, the one who won at a Canadian casino and used the money to move to London. A literal main character.

They talk standup as healing, immigrant kid ambition, and how comedy becomes armor. Plus: British accents gone wrong, Catholic grandmas, hot horoscopes, and how a purse on stage became a feminist survival tactic.

This one is cozy, cathartic, and extremely funny. Like slipping into PJs while your hot chocolate has chili in it but it kinda works.

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