EPISODE OVERVIEW
Duration: Approximately 30 minutes
Best For: Trapped entrepreneurs who are scared AI will gut their team, when it could be the thing that finally gives them their evenings back
Key Outcome: A clear way to see AI as the tool that takes the mundane off your plate, so you and your staff can work six hours a day and spend the rest being human
You built a business with ten staff, and the thought of AI doing the work of seven of them keeps you up at night.
THE BOTTOM LINE
You have spent years carrying every decision, every task, every late night that nobody else could do. Christian Komor came on to talk about climate work on a scale most of us will never touch, and somewhere in the middle of it he and Roy landed on something that matters for your Tuesday morning. AI is not the thing that empties your office. It is the thing that takes the boring, repetitive work off your team so they can do what humans are actually good at, connecting with customers, talking to suppliers, being present. Roy puts the picture in front of you plainly. Ten staff, ten times the output, everyone home for dinner, working six hours a day. That is not a fantasy. That is what happens when you stop using your people for tasks a machine should be doing. The cost of carrying on as you are is not just your tiredness. It is the version of your business, and your life, that you keep putting off.
WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS TO YOU
You are exhausted because the grind has become the point. This episode shows you what happens when AI takes the mundane off your desk and your team's desks, and you get hours back that were never yours to lose.
The fear keeping you stuck is "if I only need three staff, what do I do with the other ten." Roy answers it directly. You keep them, you do ten times more, and everyone works less. Because you listened, that fear stops running the show.
You stop being the bottleneck the moment you accept AI is a sixty percent tool, not a magic button. You stay the architect. The machine handles the repetitive load. That is the shift that lets you step back without things falling over.
Carry on as you are and you keep trading your evenings, your family time and your health for tasks that did not need a human in the first place. That is the price of doing nothing.
KEY INSIGHTS YOU CAN IMPLEMENT TODAY
The grind became the goal somewhere along the way. Christian and Roy name it. The last twenty years trained you to do more and make more, and the result is a business owner who is never present. Naming it is the first step to stepping out of it.
AI is a sixty percent tool at best. People see the social media hype and expect it to run their business for them. It will not. You hold the human architect role and you guide it clearly. When you treat it that way, it takes work off you instead of disappointing you.
Use AI for the mundane, keep the human for the human. The tasks that drain you and your team, the repetitive ones, those go to the machine. The work you and your staff love, connecting with people, that is what you do more of. Same team, very different days.
Coming together beats burying yourself. Christian talks about people reconnecting, with each other and with nature, after years lost to small screens. The reflection lands close to home for any owner who has put work ahead of the people around them.
Christian's own moment came from a hospital window, watching families together in the rooms across from his. He nearly walked away from everything. What pulled him back was the simple sense that we are meant to be with and for each other. The work is meant to serve that, not swallow it.
GOLDEN QUOTES WORTH REMEMBERING
"If you have ten staff, imagine doing ten times more and letting your staff and you work six hours a day. Wouldn't that be nice?" - Roy Castleman
"They look to it and they think this is going to do everything for me. It's just not. It's a sixty percent tool at best. You have to hold the human architect role." - Roy Castleman
"We've fallen away from being humans over the last twenty years. It's all about the grind, all about doing more and making more money." - Roy Castleman
"We really are meant to be together with and for each other." - Christian Komor
QUICK NAVIGATION FOR BUSY LEADERS
00:00 - Introduction: Christian Komor joins Roy, a write-in candidate for governor in Colorado, and AI sits right at the centre of his work
03:30 - Mining the sky: Christian explains the carbon removal and data centre plan, and why AI made the planning possible at all
09:15 - Knowledge is now free: Roy on AI doing in an afternoon what used to take centuries, and what that means when you are no longer top of the tree
14:00 - The economics of power: why using less is top of mind, and how efficiency drives the whole thing
17:30 - Work less, be more human: Roy on the grind, and the cost of putting work ahead of family and staff
21:00 - The ten staff question: the fear of replacing people answered, and the six hour day picture
25:30 - The CEO and the lifeboat: Christian on coming together instead of going separate ways
28:00 - Conclusion: a hospital window, families together, and one clear message about why we are meant to be with each other
GUEST SPOTLIGHT
Name: Christian Komor
Bio: Dr. Komor is a nationally recognised expert in climate intervention and carbon removal whose work has influenced federal policy. In early 2021 he advised White House Executive Office staff, contributing to carbon removal provisions in H.R. 3684. He developed the Interstate SkyCarbon Blueprint, a framework to coordinate large-scale Direct Atmospheric Carbon Removal across more than 20 U.S. state governments, starting with the Colorado Governor's Office in 2026, and he leads the U.S. Climate Deadline Alliance.
Connect with Christian:
Website: k4gov.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/skycarbonblueprint/
YOUR NEXT ACTIONS
This Week: Write down the five tasks that drained you most this week. Ask which of them genuinely needed a human, and which a machine could have handled while you stayed present elsewhere.
This Month: Pick one repetitive task you or a team member does every day. Hand it to AI, with you holding the architect role and guiding it clearly. Watch what comes back, and what time it frees.
This Quarter: Map what your team could do with ten times the capacity if the mundane work was off their plates. Decide what a six hour day would look like in your business, and start building toward it.
EPISODE RESOURCES
Thinking Outside Your Brain With AI by Roy Castleman, a book on holding the human architect role and using AI as a thinking tool.
Climeworks, a carbon removal company referenced in the conversation.
The work of David Sinclair on reversing human ageing, mentioned as an example of AI accelerating research.
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CONNECT WITH YOUR HOST, ROY CASTLEMAN
Roy is the founder of All The Power Limited and creator of The Owner's Thrive Method, a business coaching system for entrepreneurs ready to grow without burnout. As a certified Wim Hof Method Instructor and the UK's first certified BOS UP coach, Roy combines AI as a thinking methodology, wellness practices, and business operating systems to help trapped entrepreneurs reclaim their freedom.
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::Good morning, good afternoon, good evening wherever you are in
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::the world. I'm here today with Christian. Is that right,
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::Christian? Yep. Christian Comer, and I'm running for state governor
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::in Colorado, usa. Very good. Welcome to the podcast.
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::It's good to be here. We're going to have an
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::interesting conversation because AI is probably the thing that's causing
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::you some concern. Ah, yes, AI,
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::I'm familiar with it. If you're not in this world,
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::potentially there's a problem. Right. So what are your thoughts
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::on AI itself, on AI and the power consumption and
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::where it's all going? Wow, that brings us right into
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::the center of. You are a great interviewer. That brings
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::us right into the center of what we're doing here
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::or hoping to do if I get elected. I always
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::like to mention I'm a write in independent candidate. So
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::we're not playing the usual party game. Resulted
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::in Donald Trump's manifestation, which is dismantling our country
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::here. What we're hoping to do here in Colorado, because
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::we do have hyper data centers that want to come
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::into Colorado, we also have 900 gigatons
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::of carbon circling in our atmosphere in the stratosphere.
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::And it at this point, it doesn't matter if we
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::stopped emissions completely. That amount of
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::carbon and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is enough
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::to take us down. Meaning in seven years, the feedback
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::cycles that we've kicked off, there's two ocean currents that
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::are faltering right now that we need for moving heat
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::around the planet. Permafrost melts. It's exposing massive
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::stores of methane, which is going to be a real
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::bugger as we deal with all this carbon. These feedback
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::cycles, and there's about 15 of them will be functioning
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::on their own in the mid-2030s. So no matter what
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::we do after that point, barring alien invasion from another
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::planet, we won't be able to stop climate change from
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::greatly decreasing the carrying capacity of the Earth.
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::Meaning we'll lose 6 or 7 billion people. It
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::won't be very fun. But back to the good news.
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::That's what's going to happen if we don't do something,
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::which is currently what we're doing is nothing. It doesn't
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::matter if I buy an electric car or not. There's
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::already too much carbon in the atmosphere. But if we
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::take these massive data centers and we locate them next
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::to a direct air carbon removal facility, there's
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::about a dozen of them around the country. But the
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::best known and the folks with the best technology are
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::Climeworks in Austria Actually, they're running on geothermal
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::energy. They've got a large carbon removal plant running
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::on geothermal energy and it's been running for 10 years.
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::But at such a small scale, it can't make much
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::of a global difference. We place a carbon removal center
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::next to the data center. The carbon removal center creates
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::something called R774 liquid which can
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::cool chips. That's what they use in air conditioners. It's
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::a byproduct of removing carbon from the atmosphere. Then the
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::data centers are still giving off residue heat from the
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::chips. We need that heat in the direct air
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::carbon removal process in order to fix the carbon
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::to the sorbent which is used for collection
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::of the carbon. Then right next to those two plants,
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::we place a production facility which will take the
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::carbon that we've recaptured, basically mining the sky
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::and we can make aviation fuel green polymers,
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::including biodegradable plastics, precast structural
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::materials like concrete. All these good things.
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::Now, I think one of the questions that I wanted
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::to lead in with was that we now have AI,
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::which basically makes knowledge free. Knowledge
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::is free. And the thing that humans were able to
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::always stand out as the best in, which was thinking
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::fast and thinking about a range of things. We are
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::arguably getting to a stage where AI is able to
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::do that better than us. So we're no longer top
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::of the tree, which is the first time in our
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::evolution. My question is, we've seen so many positive
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::things out of this already. Everyone likes to go to
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::the negative. I don't. I want to go to the
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::positive. Yeah, I really see AI as a way that
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::we can get a handle on climate change, a way
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::that we can use this processing power and this brain
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::to think about things that we haven't thought about before.
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::And this sounds like the project that you're working on
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::now, optimizing the way we do things to really get
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::a good handle on the problem. Yes, you're absolutely right.
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::We've been using AI as we've been developing this, doing
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::this, planning, couldn't have really done this without the
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::abilities of AI. So it's extremely valuable because of if
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::we had another 10 years, we probably would have time
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::for AI to come up with marvelous system physics to
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::allow us to overcome climate change. One of the things
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::I try to get across to people that is the
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::urgency because we're going to end up with these feedback
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::cycles taking over so that humans were really all we
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::can do is fill sandbags at that point. Yes, we
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::need to use AI with this project that
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::we're with what we can do now. It will, it's
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::very expensive still. So even with all our tricks that
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::we have now, we're hoping that AI will help us
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::to reduce the expense. I recall two particular stories.
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::I think there was an MIT study that they were
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::trying to find a new aluminum alloy and
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::they were able to use AI to find something like
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::300,000 different possibilities and work out what the best one
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::was in an afternoon. And that would have taken them
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::something like 320 years. David Sinclair is doing the work
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::on reversing human aging. Claims he's done 160 million pounds
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::worth of work in six months that he wouldn't have
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::been able to do with AI. So I think the
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::opportunity is really there to use AI for good and
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::helping us with the problem that we've caused. Unfortunately, if
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::the way that we're going with AI right now, we're
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::going to kill ourselves with it if we don't. It's
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::an amazing technology but we're going to add
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::to the climate crisis, accelerate things faster if
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::we don't figure out some clever way of running AI.
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::The Colorado project here is we would co locate the
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::facilities on our eastern plains of Colorado where
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::there's a great reservoir of geothermal energy and
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::we can tap into solar and wind energy. Our intention
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::is to and the numbers that the AI has run
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::for us say that we can establish all
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::of this that we're talking about off of the civilian
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::grid. And I think as well as we go through
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::this process, we have to look at the economics of
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::it as well. Right. The biggest single cost in AI
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::is the power. So trying to use less power is
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::going to be top of mind. These big players that
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::are in the space, once they dig into this, hopefully
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::they'll be able to find different ways to be much
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::more efficient in their AI models. So, so that we
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::don't use as much power. We're hoping that AI will
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::help us to be more efficient with the carbon capture.
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::It's really the synergy between the two that we've really
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::locked onto that seems like a massive win win for
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::both AI and for climate change. I think that this
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::whole new world that we're going to, even in the
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::last three months, the changes that are happening in AI,
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::it's so rapid, it's mind boggling. And yeah, I like
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::to think that it'll allow us to be more human.
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::We've fallen away from being humans over the last 20
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::years. It's all about the grind, doing more and making
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::more money. And not going out and spending time with
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::your family and not honoring your staff as well as
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::you should do. I think if we all go towards
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::working less and being more human across the board, then
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::a lot of these climate change other efforts that are
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::out there will get more bandwidth. That would be a
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::great book looking at how AI can make us more
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::human. Most people would think of it the other way.
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::If you read my new book that's just come out,
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::Thinking outside your brain with AI, I do touch on
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::it in there. I truly did not know you had
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::a book a few weeks ago. Thinking outside your brain
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::with AI. I'll have to look for it. That's wonderful.
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::Yeah. One of the concepts in here is that AI
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::people look at AI as a 90% tool. They see
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::all the social media, they see all these people saying
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::it's doing amazing things for them and they think, oh,
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::this is going to do everything for me. And it's
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::just not. It's a 60% tool at best. You have
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::to hold the human architect role and you have to
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::guide it very clearly in what you want to be
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::efficient. That's the lesson that we're all going to learn
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::over the next 12 to 18 months is we've seen
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::all these big companies just trying to replace people with
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::AI and it doesn't work. We will see loads more
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::jobs coming in on the AI front for sure. And
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::we will see an entire change in how we deal
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::with money and how we deal with the economical downfall.
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::This, that has the potential to cool. But I think
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::if we do it in the right way, with the
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::right positive energy and we spread the positive word rather
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::than the negative, then we have a chance. Yes, I
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::agree. One of the things that this can do is
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::actually bring people together more rather than burying ourselves in
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::our small screens. I agree with that. I think there
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::is a real trend now for people to want to
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::reconnect, want to connect with nature, want to understand all
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::the things that we've lost over the years. Yep. And
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::to get away from the focus on making more and
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::doing more, profiting more. The reality is those companies now
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::that have got 10 staff, I look off to small
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::businesses and my coaching practice and those people that have
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::got 10 or 15 staff, they people are scared of
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::going into this because it's okay, if I only need
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::three staff, what do I do with the other 10?
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::Right. I'm encouraging people to say, look, if you have
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::10 staff, imagine doing 10 times more and letting your
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::staff only work six hours a day. Wouldn't that Be
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::nice. And then what you can focus on is those
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::things that people love doing. Connecting with customers, connecting with
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::suppliers, going out and really being humans. Those are the
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::things you do more of and you let AI take
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::the mundane tasks out. We have a different world order.
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::That's what we're unfortunately seeing a lot Here in the
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::US these large corporations like
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::the average CEO which used to make 60 times what
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::the average worker would make, now they're making 900 times.
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::Our thinking is that what we're seeing right now is
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::companies that have all along been saying, oh, there is
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::no such thing as climate change here. Let's distract you
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::with something a shiny thing. They've known ever since Dr.
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::James Hansen gave his testimony in Congress back in the
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::1980s that that climate change was coming and that it
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::wasn't going to be stoppable is I think their conclusion,
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::their at this point scurrying to grab
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::whatever last resources they can so
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::that they can castle themselves into safety up
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::in Greenland or on Mars or something. Which is a
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::very, I think selfish and self focused view
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::actually. This is a. Climate change is a global problem
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::which could be bringing us together. I think of it
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::like the Titanic hits an iceberg. The first class passengers
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::are hoping that the fourth class passengers don't find out
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::about it so that they can get the seats in
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::the lifeboat. The fourth class passengers do find out
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::and come together and patch the hole and stop the
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::ship from sinking. What I think we can do here
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::in Colorado is begin that effort. There's something in the
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::United states called the US Climate alliance, started back in
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::2016 when Donald Trump pulled us out of the Paris
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::Accords and there's about 20 states involved.
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::What we're hoping to do is be the spark that
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::draws them to also follow suit and create direct
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::air carbon removal facilities, hyper data centers.
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::It's a huge undertaking, but it's really the only
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::way. According to all the AI modeling that we've done,
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::it's really the only way out of this situation at
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::present and we have to start now. I wouldn't be
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::running for governor in the next election cycle because I
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::think by then it'll be too late. So if you
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::have one message before we close up to tell people,
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::what would that be? First time I ran for governor,
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::I ended up with triple heart bypass surgery. Just
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::coincidentally, the campaign as I was sitting in a hotel
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::near the hospital recovering, I remember looking, I vividly remember
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::looking out the window and I could see the other
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::rooms in the hotel, the lights coming on in the
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::evening, the Families Together, because I was considering
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::giving up on the campaign, and
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::I just had this sense come over me of the
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::familialness of human beings and
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::that we really are meant to be together with and
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::for each other. I think that projects like this,
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::critical life saving projects like this bring us together in
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::a really powerful way. My message would be we need
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::to come together. And democracy is a very powerful
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::way humans have invented to come together. Instead, we seem
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::to be using it to go separate ways, which doesn't
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::work. Christian, thank you very much for joining me. We
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::look forward to seeing how your election goes and how
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::we get these projects off the ground. Keep keep an
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::eye on us Through K, the number 4gov, K4gov.com
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::and see how we're doing. Thanks for joining us. Thank
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::you.