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From Grind to Gold: Building a Legacy with DLO
Episode 714th January 2026 • Turning Hustle Into Legacy with Dr. Stance • BWIT Podcast Studio
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Hustle can get you started, but it’s legacy that makes it last, and that’s exactly what we’re diving into today. Join me and DLO as we explore the transformative power of turning grind, pain, and perseverance into something that truly outlives us. We’re chatting about hustling with purpose instead of burning out, flipping setbacks into strategies, and building a mindset that sticks around for the long haul. Plus, we’re all about creating impact that goes beyond just chasing money or clout, focusing instead on leaving something meaningful for the next generation. If you’re tired of the quick wins and ready to build something that actually matters, then this episode is your new best friend! So, let’s get into it!

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Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

Welcome to turning your hustle into a legacy with Dr. Stant.

Speaker B:

And I'm excited.

Speaker B:

Straight East Oakland.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Area.

Speaker B:

We got my guy here.

Speaker A:

What's happening?

Speaker B:

What is it?

Speaker B:

Dlo.

Speaker B:

We don't give a about.

Speaker B:

You know, we gotta throw that in.

Speaker A:

Yeah, they know what it is.

Speaker B:

Everybody in the early:

Speaker B:

And, you know, you was play with it.

Speaker B:

Give this man his props.

Speaker B:

Welcome.

Speaker A:

Thank you for having me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, of course.

Speaker B:

He was definitely hard to get here, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker B:

He gave me hell.

Speaker B:

I'm totally lying.

Speaker B:

My guy showed up to support Dr. Stance, and I actually wanted him on my show.

Speaker B:

Let me tell you why.

Speaker B:

The man's been in the industry for a long time.

Speaker B:

Everybody named Mama was slapping.

Speaker B:

I'm talking about old folk, young folk, Y N's, B Ns, all of them was slapping.

Speaker B:

Fucking dlo.

Speaker B:

And you know that put some respect on this man's name.

Speaker B:

But let's get right into it.

Speaker B:

I personally know that, you know, growing up listening to your music, I think at one first, I'm like, almost a decade older than you.

Speaker B:

I am 43.

Speaker B:

That's what it looked like.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Not almost a decade, but.

Speaker A:

All right, whatever.

Speaker A:

Really.

Speaker B:

We might be the same age, but.

Speaker A:

Anyway, we can say that too.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

But no, I know.

Speaker B:

Just doing my research on you.

Speaker B:

You know, most importantly, I started this podcast because I wanted to talk about turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

And I think when we talked on the phone, one, you're a girl's dad.

Speaker B:

I think that's the cutest shit in the fucking world.

Speaker A:

For sure.

Speaker B:

For sure that you got three baby girls.

Speaker B:

How old are they?

Speaker A:

18, 15 and 6.

Speaker B:

Let's get into that.

Speaker B:

What's that like?

Speaker B:

Let's talk to these young men.

Speaker B:

That's a single father raising three girls.

Speaker A:

Well, I'm raising three girls, but two actually live with me, so that's more than that.

Speaker A:

Which is the oldest ones?

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I take pride in it.

Speaker A:

I love give you a different feel of, like, manhood and fatherhood.

Speaker A:

Like, fatherhood is different when you got girls versus boys.

Speaker A:

Even though I don't have boys, but I know it's a big difference.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

If I had a boy, I would raise him differently than how I raised my daughters.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

But it's a challenge.

Speaker A:

It ain't easy.

Speaker B:

What's the hardest part?

Speaker A:

The hardest part?

Speaker B:

The boys.

Speaker A:

Nah, I don't have problems with that part.

Speaker A:

I've never had them kind of problems.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Ever.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker A:

Like, of course.

Speaker A:

Like, my daughter done talked to boys and shit like that.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I'm not, I'm the, I'm the cool dad and I'm not the cool.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

Same here.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So my daughters already know what's up.

Speaker A:

Like, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I kind of shelter them like from the outside world a lot, you know.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

Why is that though?

Speaker B:

Cause I was opposite as a parent.

Speaker A:

Well, when I say shelter them, I take that back.

Speaker A:

Like, they couldn't go to house parties, function parties.

Speaker A:

They couldn't go do certain shit.

Speaker A:

Ain't no first Fridays.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, none of that.

Speaker A:

Ain't no being outside when it's like, I'm not the dad that let you do that shit.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Everything else, we can go do something together and go have some.

Speaker B:

I want to be with you, dad.

Speaker A:

Yeah, but it's like, I know that lifestyle.

Speaker A:

Like, look, look what just happened in Stockton.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

That's just happening everywhere though.

Speaker A:

Now me, like, yeah, that's happening everywhere.

Speaker A:

And I'll be damned if one of my kids is there and be one of them.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So like anything else?

Speaker A:

Yeah, like I'm the cool dad.

Speaker A:

Like I'm, I, I'm lenient, You feel me?

Speaker B:

I think that builds a better relationship because it makes them more comfortable to come tell you.

Speaker A:

No, exactly.

Speaker A:

For sure.

Speaker B:

They don't want to hide because you, you got to have a balance because when you two for they going to hide.

Speaker A:

My oldest tell me everything.

Speaker A:

See, my 15 year old, she's getting into that, you know.

Speaker A:

But my oldest, she tell me everything.

Speaker B:

Y' all close.

Speaker B:

I actually just seen.

Speaker A:

So what?

Speaker A:

The 15 year old don't tell me.

Speaker A:

I know already.

Speaker B:

See, cuz she be snitching.

Speaker A:

But the 15 year old was the snitch first and now, now the, the, the roles reversed.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

And it's like, yeah, but it's a good snitch.

Speaker A:

It ain't a bad snitch.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

It's a good snitch.

Speaker B:

Like they got each other back.

Speaker A:

No, that's what they definitely do.

Speaker B:

Like I'm definitely gon.

Speaker A:

They definitely got each other back.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, period.

Speaker B:

But again, you know, men aren't built to raise children.

Speaker B:

That's not what y' all built to do.

Speaker B:

But some are put in those situations like you and are a successful father and come out with kids that are successful, respectable, good Young ladies.

Speaker B:

So to me, they say men aren't built to raise children, but shit, obviously you a walking story that they are.

Speaker A:

You know what I can say?

Speaker A:

I wasn't always the great father, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Like, I wasn't like, now that I'm older and shit, like, I'm more all the way hands on at home.

Speaker A:

Like, really, really, really there now.

Speaker A:

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

I wasn't never just not there, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, but it was times, you know, being a rapper, on the road, being gone, it was like I was in and out, in and out, in and out.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

So, but like, now it's different.

Speaker A:

I'm like, I'm a grown ass man.

Speaker B:

And where are they moms?

Speaker A:

Like, what made them do one of them moms?

Speaker B:

Let's get personal.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

One of my oldest, her mom fell to the streets.

Speaker A:

Drugs, you feel me?

Speaker A:

Bless her soul, you feel me?

Speaker A:

My other.

Speaker A:

My other daughter, mom, it was just time for her to come live with me.

Speaker A:

I don't want to speak on too much, but it was just time for my daughter to come live with me, like, all the way.

Speaker B:

Well, I need you for taking her.

Speaker A:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker B:

My parents don't.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

That's what I literally had to do, though.

Speaker A:

I had to go take her.

Speaker B:

No, and not.

Speaker A:

It wasn't like, hey, yeah, come live with me.

Speaker A:

It was like, nah, hey, I'm on my way.

Speaker B:

Remove her.

Speaker A:

I'mma come get you from school, the house.

Speaker A:

Like, don't take.

Speaker A:

You ain't got to bring.

Speaker B:

See, I love you.

Speaker A:

Hear me Like, I was on like that.

Speaker B:

That's a good father like you, when you seen it was a time of need, an emergency.

Speaker B:

You went to go get her.

Speaker B:

It didn't matter the circumstances.

Speaker A:

You still for sure.

Speaker A:

Hell yeah, I had to.

Speaker A:

I ain't had no choice.

Speaker A:

Oh, if I didn't do it, nobody else was.

Speaker B:

There you go.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

And now, you know, I'm in that business, foster care, so I see it all the time.

Speaker B:

36.

Speaker B:

A lot of the kids that I have that are 18 and 21 there, it's your generation.

Speaker B:

And guess what?

Speaker B:

It's a lot of foster kids.

Speaker B:

The kids, literally parents are your age.

Speaker B:

They not mine.

Speaker B:

They y' all age.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

This day and age right now, I'm seeing more fathers than I have.

Speaker B:

Me too.

Speaker A:

A lot more.

Speaker A:

Like, for real, stepping up.

Speaker A:

But the ones that's not just can't even be around me because it's like, damn.

Speaker A:

Like, bro, I'm setting a big example for niggas.

Speaker A:

Like, like.

Speaker A:

And I'm not.

Speaker A:

I'm not doing it, like, showing it off.

Speaker A:

I barely do a lot, but the shit I show is me having real fun.

Speaker A:

The shit I show.

Speaker A:

Instagram is what we do when the cameras is not on.

Speaker A:

And we love, you know, saying so like, we.

Speaker A:

They fuck with me 24, 7, y' all get 10% of what they do.

Speaker A:

You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But it's not hard.

Speaker A:

It's not hard if.

Speaker A:

Yo, it's hard if your shit ain't together.

Speaker A:

Not saying my shit is just all the way together, because it's not.

Speaker A:

But I know how to be a parent.

Speaker A:

I know how to be there.

Speaker A:

I know how to make sure the same shit our parents told us.

Speaker A:

Food on the table, clothes on your back, roof over your head.

Speaker A:

You ain't.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So, like, that part mean everything.

Speaker A:

So it's not hard.

Speaker A:

I ain't got nobody on child support.

Speaker A:

I ain't got nobody sending me money, helping me.

Speaker A:

I don't nothing.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, this is just all me.

Speaker A:

Literally.

Speaker A:

Not.

Speaker A:

Not my.

Speaker A:

Not a mom, a grandmother, a sister, nothing.

Speaker A:

You hear me?

Speaker A:

Like, my dad was my support.

Speaker A:

My brother free sleepy.

Speaker A:

He in jail.

Speaker A:

When it came to my kids, like, he was probably the closest person to my kids.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Other family wise.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I had to step up.

Speaker A:

I was right.

Speaker A:

How my daughters is raised, I was raised the same way.

Speaker A:

I grew up without my mom.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

I grew up without my mom.

Speaker A:

It was always with my dad and my dad was always in jail.

Speaker A:

And when my dad was in jail, I was with my grandfather, which how my kids.

Speaker A:

Same way, same exact.

Speaker A:

Swear to God.

Speaker B:

But you broke the curse.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I broke the curse.

Speaker B:

You broke the curse.

Speaker B:

Hats off to you.

Speaker B:

Damn.

Speaker B:

That blows me away.

Speaker B:

General generational curse.

Speaker B:

That is freaking real.

Speaker A:

So I'm the opposite.

Speaker A:

I had a dad.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Out of dad.

Speaker A:

When he wasn't in jail, he was there.

Speaker A:

When he was in jail, he was still there.

Speaker A:

Feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, he was raising me over the phone and shit.

Speaker A:

But I didn't have a mom from 1 to 15, 16.

Speaker A:

I was already outside thugging by the end of it.

Speaker A:

But I love my mama to death though.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

She in Vegas.

Speaker B:

Got you.

Speaker A:

I got a young mom.

Speaker A:

My mom had me when she was like 15 or 16.

Speaker A:

15 or 16, something like that.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

So like, we gotta.

Speaker A:

We got a cool relationship.

Speaker A:

We just don't talk a lot.

Speaker B:

Do you resent her for not being there, you think?

Speaker A:

Nah, I don't.

Speaker A:

Nah.

Speaker A:

It's crazy because I never was the kid.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, you left me like I was the kid.

Speaker A:

You couldn't talk about my mama or we fighting because my mom not here.

Speaker A:

So it's like, you can't talk, we fighting.

Speaker A:

And I still always had that hope.

Speaker A:

I'm still like that with certain things.

Speaker A:

Like, I keep hope for certain shit.

Speaker A:

So I always had that hope.

Speaker A:

Like, she gonna come back around.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

And when she came back around, we had more of a.

Speaker B:

Friendship.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Like, she was like my sister.

Speaker A:

Not even a friendship like a sister, like a big sister.

Speaker A:

Like, my mama didn't tell me what to.

Speaker A:

Never told me what to do.

Speaker A:

As much as I wanted that, that's what I really wanted inside.

Speaker A:

I never spoke it and said it, but yeah, I know.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying, like, that's what I had wanted.

Speaker A:

And she.

Speaker A:

She just let me do what the fuck ever I wanted to do.

Speaker A:

Never.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

My other.

Speaker A:

My little brothers, they couldn't do nothing.

Speaker A:

She was beating ass, bta.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm oldest.

Speaker A:

But when it came to me, it was like, I'm 15, smoking guns, everything like nothing other time, robbing people, I'm doing everything.

Speaker A:

And she never once was just like, hey, you sitting.

Speaker A:

My mama was just.

Speaker A:

And at first I liked it.

Speaker A:

I was like, man, I got cool ass mama nigga, you feel me?

Speaker A:

But then it was just that, so.

Speaker A:

But me and my mama, when we together, we the best of friends.

Speaker A:

Like, if.

Speaker A:

When we come together, we the best of friends, it's just.

Speaker A:

That's rare now.

Speaker A:

And you get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Like, I love her to death, though.

Speaker A:

Like, love everything about her.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker B:

Well, I know that you said, like, you were, you know, you broke the generational curse and how you too, actually went through what your father went through with you guys, his kids.

Speaker B:

How did that play out?

Speaker B:

Meaning, I know you did some time, right, and you were away from them, but how did that become a part of dlo on top of you getting into the rapping industry?

Speaker B:

How did that mix with you being gone?

Speaker B:

You know, what changed you to get you into rapping?

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I never was the.

Speaker A:

I wasn't the rapper or the person that wanted to be a rapper.

Speaker B:

Interesting.

Speaker A:

I never was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna be a rapper one day.

Speaker A:

I wasn't 15, 14, rapping, trying to rap.

Speaker A:

16, none of that.

Speaker A:

Like, I just tried it one day.

Speaker A:

Cause my niggas was rapping.

Speaker A:

I'm always at my nigga house, staying in the studio, rapping.

Speaker A:

So I just tried it and no Ho was like my third song.

Speaker B:

I couldn't tell.

Speaker B:

Cause your ass got fired.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But yeah, no Ho was my third song.

Speaker A:

And like if no holding the blew up, I probably wouldn't have been rapping.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker A:

Yeah, it blew up biggest.

Speaker A:

I couldn't do nothing but be like, you got to.

Speaker A:

I'm like, oh yeah, that's what we doing.

Speaker A:

What calling.

Speaker A:

Trying to pay me to come to their functions.

Speaker A:

500.

Speaker A:

was in:

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

That was worth.

Speaker A:

That was equivalent to like 3,000 today.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Like the value of the of money from me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

But yeah, if it wasn't for no ho, I probably wouldn't be rapping though.

Speaker B:

Wait, hold on and get them though.

Speaker A:

No, no, no ho is what made me always say, always say no ho made me get him ho.

Speaker A:

You played me, saved me.

Speaker A:

And get her though.

Speaker A:

Paid me because I made more money off get her though than I made off no ho.

Speaker B:

I forgot about you play me.

Speaker B:

I love them.

Speaker B:

You right?

Speaker B:

Them is my three I love.

Speaker B:

And it's crazy because I never thought I'd be sitting here with your ass now after slapping that.

Speaker B:

You know, back then I was older than you slapping that.

Speaker B:

So you was hella.

Speaker A:

But you gotta think you was young as then too.

Speaker B:

I was.

Speaker A:

Think about how it was in:

Speaker B:

I don't know, Nick, you making me think I know that I'm 30.

Speaker A:

Well, I was 43 right now.

Speaker A:

in:

Speaker B:

So yeah, no, I was probably like 24.

Speaker A:

6.

Speaker B:

26?

Speaker A:

You're about 24, cuz.

Speaker B:

I'm 43.

Speaker A:

You 35.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I was still young.

Speaker A:

So you just got pregnant?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like you probably didn't even know I was that young.

Speaker A:

Nobody knew.

Speaker A:

Nobody knew how old I was back then.

Speaker A:

I didn't because I had a full beard.

Speaker B:

Grown stuff.

Speaker A:

I had a full beard at 15, 16.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So at.

Speaker A:

At 18, I look grown as fuck.

Speaker A:

I was doing hella shows in all the clubs where you got to be 21 in.

Speaker B:

That's why I asked you how old is you?

Speaker B:

I thought you was my age.

Speaker A:

Nah.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you don't look it, but I'm just saying I thought you were my.

Speaker A:

I know because of how long I've been around.

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

A lot of people be like, you what, you ain't 36.

Speaker A:

Like I blew up As a kid, though.

Speaker A:

That's why I was 18 years old.

Speaker A:

17.

Speaker A:

18.

Speaker A:

I made no hold when I was 17, but I didn't put it out till I was 18.

Speaker A:

And then.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So on and so forth.

Speaker B:

Listen, I'm glad because it was time when you had to whistle.

Speaker B:

Tip the old school.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, town business.

Speaker B:

I think we was just sitting here talking about, too, how, like, now the generations is different.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Me even doing this foster care, just seeing, like, them, you know, your generation and then my generation, like, it's different.

Speaker B:

It's like.

Speaker B:

It's just segregated different.

Speaker B:

Like how you said, like the.

Speaker B:

That just happened in Stockton.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

We wasn't doing that.

Speaker A:

We weren't doing that.

Speaker B:

We couldn't just wasn't.

Speaker A:

It was like, had.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

It was rules to the streets, to the game industry.

Speaker A:

It was real rules to the streets.

Speaker A:

And you abide by them type of rules.

Speaker A:

Like a.

Speaker A:

Get a pass with his kids.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Depending on what he did, but not like that.

Speaker A:

But seriously, you get a pass with your kids.

Speaker A:

We don't.

Speaker A:

We didn't play with kids and old people, bro.

Speaker A:

Like, that was the rule.

Speaker A:

But we came up under OGs, though.

Speaker A:

That's how we learned them rules.

Speaker A:

These new young don't come up under nothing.

Speaker A:

They come up Under Instagram and NBA YoungBoy, you hear me?

Speaker B:

And they going crazy over that.

Speaker A:

And I'm just saying, like, that's what's raising them, is the music.

Speaker A:

Because we.

Speaker A:

In a time now where a lot of rappers is actually doing the.

Speaker A:

They rapping about now, at first, you hear everybody saying they didn't kill somebody before.

Speaker A:

They ain't never shot a gun in a day in his life.

Speaker B:

Now everybody killed everybody.

Speaker A:

Like, no, listen, now, that's just sad.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker A:

I mean, that's just sad.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

And it's crazy because they making crazy money off of it, though.

Speaker A:

It's the most negative way to make some money as far as them people go.

Speaker A:

That's why y' all getting paid off this shit.

Speaker A:

Cause niggas is getting signed right now off of Funkin Music, off of music that they.

Speaker A:

These labels know what y' all doing.

Speaker A:

They know y' all actually out there.

Speaker A:

They know y' all actually out there in a war.

Speaker A:

It's because it's all over Instagram.

Speaker A:

It's public.

Speaker A:

Everybody see everything.

Speaker A:

Like, look at this doctor shit.

Speaker A:

If you never was from there, you can watch everything that's going on on all them clips, news clips, and know exactly what's going on.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, he's a what boy and he's a who.

Speaker A:

Oh, like they.

Speaker A:

They telling it all.

Speaker A:

You got all these blog sites now and shit.

Speaker A:

Like, it's too hard to not go to jail for this shit.

Speaker A:

That's why I'm scared of the.

Speaker A:

I'm scared of this new.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Like, hey, listen, man, I'm.

Speaker A:

I gotta make it home to them babies here.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

If you get in the way of that, then I'm willing to go to jail.

Speaker A:

But other than that, yeah, okay.

Speaker A:

You checking yourself off the streets, performing.

Speaker B:

You be in a town.

Speaker A:

Hell yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm always outside.

Speaker B:

You gotta.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

To promote who you are.

Speaker B:

Because you a legacy, though.

Speaker B:

Let's keep it real.

Speaker B:

We was bumping you 20 something years ago.

Speaker B:

Like, come on, like.

Speaker B:

Like you're the definition of a legacy.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A:

I feel blessed to been rapping this long and still able to be booked every single month.

Speaker A:

I had to have you two, three times a month I'm booked.

Speaker A:

I'm still doing shows.

Speaker A:

Any that come to the Bay Area, that go to that arena, they calling you or San Francisco, they calling DLO for sure.

Speaker A:

You know how many.

Speaker A:

How many times I was like, nah, I can't do it this time.

Speaker A:

How many other artists came that I just didn't come out for?

Speaker A:

Because now I live in Arizona.

Speaker A:

And at the end of the day, that cool and all.

Speaker A:

You feel me bringing you out and.

Speaker A:

But it's like this my city, so it's like I'm not really gaining nothing from that.

Speaker A:

It looks good, but I'm not gaining nothing from it.

Speaker A:

So, like, I'm not going out my way to come perform.

Speaker A:

Because Ace Boogie with the hoodie was like, oh, I won't delo or.

Speaker A:

Because this and that.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

It's like that's all they come here and do, though.

Speaker A:

That's it.

Speaker A:

They.

Speaker A:

They bring you out and that's it.

Speaker A:

Yes, it like you brought me out.

Speaker A:

Cause you know what I do in this city.

Speaker A:

You know what's going on.

Speaker A:

I ain't never even met you a day in my life, but extend some kind of something.

Speaker A:

Throw me a verse.

Speaker A:

Really, really with you.

Speaker A:

Like, don't come use me and then dip up out here.

Speaker A:

I feel like you feel like.

Speaker A:

But it's cool though.

Speaker A:

I don't trip that hard.

Speaker A:

Like, everybody know I'm hella humble.

Speaker A:

I'll be tripping like that.

Speaker A:

Unless it's something for me to really trip on.

Speaker A:

But that's why I don't break my neck like that.

Speaker A:

Certain niggas call me.

Speaker A:

Yes, I'm gonna do that favor.

Speaker A:

Niggas like Da Boy Dane, I'm coming.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, I know.

Speaker A:

Du Boy Dane, feel me?

Speaker A:

Da Boy Dane hit me numerous of times like, bro, I need you at this da da.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

Niggas like that and niggas I fuck with.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I'm gonna pull up.

Speaker A:

But I done had multiple big ass artists come to Oakland, San Francisco.

Speaker A:

They either calling me you little blood fat.

Speaker B:

That's it.

Speaker A:

Lil Kayla.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker A:

Like, and Kamiyah.

Speaker A:

And Kamiyah.

Speaker B:

Oh, and Kamiyah.

Speaker B:

You totally right.

Speaker A:

And Kamiyah.

Speaker A:

But that's literally everybody that come to this motherfucker.

Speaker A:

No, for real, my thing is DLO need to need his own set at Summer Jam.

Speaker A:

I swear to God.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I might have some plug on that for you.

Speaker A:

I need my own set at summer.

Speaker A:

How can I not have my own set at Summer Jam?

Speaker A:

It's impossible.

Speaker A:

DLO can't have a set at Summer Jam.

Speaker A:

Like, that's impossible.

Speaker B:

We can see what we could do.

Speaker B:

Let's see what's happening.

Speaker B:

20, 26 is big shit coming.

Speaker B:

I feel it for you.

Speaker B:

I feel it for me.

Speaker B:

And this is just a new platform now.

Speaker B:

I'm an action.

Speaker B:

I want to know the honest, most fucking gut wrenching, like, literally truth on.

Speaker B:

Cause you know, of course I'm gonna always say, as far as with my kids, if you had a little boy right there, that's a y N right, that was in the streets doing all the shit we been through.

Speaker B:

I done been in and out of jail.

Speaker B:

You done been to the pen, been in and out of jail, did your time, did your bid.

Speaker B:

What would you tell that nigga in regards to how you turned your hustle into a legacy?

Speaker B:

What words?

Speaker B:

You know, would you tell him to try to say that to get him out of that mindset?

Speaker B:

Because they need people like you that's already doing things and just need a positive role model like you a girl, dad.

Speaker B:

You ain't in these streets like that.

Speaker B:

You stay to yourself.

Speaker B:

You, you know, honestly, let's keep it 100.

Speaker B:

You obviously a real nigga or a good one.

Speaker B:

Because the way these.

Speaker B:

These streets of Oakland is going to let somebody out.

Speaker B:

You can go into a room with your jewelry and be good.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So what would tell them to be in a space like you to where you can go anywhere and be good.

Speaker B:

Your name is good.

Speaker A:

First, I would ask them, like, I would ask them questions about shit that they really care about.

Speaker A:

Like, what do you.

Speaker A:

What.

Speaker A:

What means the most to you in life?

Speaker A:

And if a young can't tell me nothing, it mean if he be like nothing, then that's when that's different.

Speaker A:

You got.

Speaker A:

You got young out here that's still acting stupid, but they got to live for, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Then you got the young who don't got to live for.

Speaker A:

You got the young that's been foster care forever.

Speaker A:

That's been.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Runaways.

Speaker A:

And they ain't got no family, for real.

Speaker A:

So they family.

Speaker A:

Is they gang or the streets?

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

So you.

Speaker A:

Them kind of people, it's hard to get through.

Speaker A:

It's hard to get through.

Speaker A:

Like, you could tell.

Speaker A:

I could sit and tell them, bro, look at my life.

Speaker A:

Look what I.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

But when you young, you don't want to hear that.

Speaker B:

You just don't.

Speaker A:

Because guess what?

Speaker A:

You broke.

Speaker A:

You don't want to hear nothing when you broke.

Speaker A:

You don't want to hear nobody telling you what you should do to change your life.

Speaker A:

Because guess what?

Speaker A:

When you broke and you black, and you a young black man and you broke, it's hella hard for you on the streets.

Speaker A:

It's so hard.

Speaker A:

Because guess what?

Speaker A:

Now you jumping from place to place.

Speaker A:

People don't want you there too long, especially when you broke.

Speaker A:

You out here thugging, you out here funking.

Speaker A:

People don't want you around because people probably shooting at you.

Speaker A:

And it's like a can't get a job.

Speaker A:

These niggas can't even get jobs.

Speaker A:

You want to know why?

Speaker A:

Because every single YN out here that's in the streets, I ain't getting caught slipping in at work.

Speaker A:

I just seen a clip the other day.

Speaker A:

A.

Speaker A:

They went up to his job, literally, I swear to God, and he like, yup, y' all caught me.

Speaker A:

And I'm just like, damn.

Speaker A:

Like, y' all can't even get no money.

Speaker A:

Y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker A:

Y' all just.

Speaker A:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's about who.

Speaker A:

Who doing their thing the most.

Speaker A:

You feel me?

Speaker A:

And that's it.

Speaker A:

Crazy.

Speaker A:

We didn't move like that.

Speaker A:

We moved off real prop, real she.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I'm not saying, like, our moving is.

Speaker A:

I'm not no better than them.

Speaker A:

Because, yes, we was in the streets doing too.

Speaker A:

We done did dumb, too.

Speaker A:

But they.

Speaker A:

They not doing it right.

Speaker A:

They Just not doing it right.

Speaker B:

Well, the thing is, they don't care.

Speaker A:

They don't.

Speaker A:

That shit's scary, bro.

Speaker A:

That's it.

Speaker B:

Like hair.

Speaker B:

They don't care.

Speaker A:

They care about who know.

Speaker A:

They listen.

Speaker A:

A young right now, he won't feel he can go kill three people, but if don't nobody know he did it, he don't feel good.

Speaker A:

Y' all gotta notice.

Speaker A:

That's how they.

Speaker A:

I swear to God, Young like, hold on.

Speaker A:

They gotta know this.

Speaker A:

They get on that gram.

Speaker A:

They think they talking in subliminals.

Speaker A:

They, bro.

Speaker A:

If y' all think the police don't read between the lines and the people say.

Speaker A:

And y' all in our cold talk on my mama.

Speaker A:

They got people in police stations that work for them that knows everything that we know.

Speaker A:

So they feed the info.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

If a say they said, oh, yeah, he meant that meant.

Speaker A:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

These going out, bro.

Speaker A:

I've never seen a like, young crazy.

Speaker A:

They go live and be like, yeah, I'm right here.

Speaker A:

Put drop low.

Speaker A:

We over here.

Speaker A:

We outside.

Speaker A:

Pull up like that.

Speaker A:

Y' all inviting the police to a murder party.

Speaker B:

A bloodbath.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

For no reason, though.

Speaker A:

That's why I took my kids away from all this.

Speaker A:

Because.

Speaker A:

Because, like, just living, just even going to school around this type of.

Speaker A:

You're.

Speaker A:

You'll fall into that trap.

Speaker A:

It's hard to not fall into the trap because of everybody.

Speaker A:

What's.

Speaker A:

What people think is cool is what they gonna do.

Speaker A:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

You got out of.

Speaker A:

Out of 10.

Speaker A:

Out of 10 young niggas, two of them gonna be gonna go the right way.

Speaker A:

One might play sports, one gonna be a square and do something else.

Speaker A:

The mother eight is on bullshit.

Speaker B:

That's facts, too.

Speaker A:

The mother ain't on bullshit.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's the ratio in my mind, because I see more of bullshit than I see niggas.

Speaker A:

That's basketball players and football players in high school and college and it off still being in the streets because they partners is with.

Speaker A:

They was with it too.

Speaker A:

But this.

Speaker A:

But you still got a thug because you're a part of a gang, and.

Speaker B:

That ratio holds up.

Speaker A:

And that's sad, because this is about getting up out of there and making some real money.

Speaker A:

But young make quick money and that'd be enough for them.

Speaker A:

They contend with that.

Speaker A:

These young don't got their own spots and ain't paying rent.

Speaker A:

They ain't doing none of that.

Speaker A:

They're not doing none of that.

Speaker A:

Type of.

Speaker A:

I know young right now.

Speaker A:

I didn't seen young go hit bip for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60,000 and won't go.

Speaker A:

Get an apartment.

Speaker A:

Won't go.

Speaker A:

Do they buy some syrup car or a chain?

Speaker A:

Chain, that's it.

Speaker A:

Or some teeth.

Speaker B:

Well, listen, I'm beyond glad to have you.

Speaker B:

You know, it's.

Speaker B:

It's an honor to have a legacy.

Speaker B:

Somebody that, in turn, they hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

So, you know, I got something special for you.

Speaker B:

Handed it to me.

Speaker B:

I can't bend over.

Speaker B:

You know, this is our reality.

Speaker A:

Of course you can always cry.

Speaker B:

I got something.

Speaker B:

I told you.

Speaker B:

You know, I try to stick to my word.

Speaker A:

Hey, I ain't never nobody.

Speaker A:

I did hundreds of interviews.

Speaker A:

Nobody's never gave me a gift before, ever.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I think that's what's making my podcast a little different.

Speaker B:

Because I feel like people take their time to come to talk and sit with me.

Speaker B:

So I feel like everybody's deserving of a gift.

Speaker B:

You are a gift, so why not get one, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm cute now.

Speaker A:

Now I want to see what this.

Speaker A:

Okay, now, of course.

Speaker A:

What is it?

Speaker B:

It's a Versace roll.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm going home.

Speaker A:

I'm finna be in this naked when I go home.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna take me a bath, and I'm be in my room.

Speaker B:

Look.

Speaker A:

And my sachi fo.

Speaker A:

Sachi d. Lo.

Speaker B:

That's what it is.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker A:

I appreciate it.

Speaker A:

I ain't never got me a gift.

Speaker A:

This means something to me.

Speaker A:

For real.

Speaker B:

That'd be so special.

Speaker B:

No, let me know.

Speaker B:

Because them suckers run big, you know?

Speaker B:

Let me know.

Speaker B:

But I definitely thought about you, and I was like, you know what?

Speaker B:

Didn't I tell you?

Speaker B:

I said that.

Speaker B:

I was like, bro, I need you to come through and sit with your girl.

Speaker B:

And you showed up.

Speaker B:

And let me tell you something.

Speaker B:

He was on time.

Speaker B:

Prompt.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker B:

All black people ain't late.

Speaker B:

Let's just be clear.

Speaker B:

Some of us be on time.

Speaker B:

I'll be late.

Speaker B:

Producer Percy, he be on time too.

Speaker A:

I used to be late all the time, though.

Speaker A:

I literally used to be late all the time.

Speaker B:

And I'm working.

Speaker A:

That's what got me, like.

Speaker A:

Because, look, I used to be late because of the way I calculated.

Speaker A:

I used to be like, I'll be there.

Speaker A:

Win seven.

Speaker A:

Time is it six?

Speaker A:

Take me 40 minutes.

Speaker A:

I make it there.

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker A:

I make it there.

Speaker A:

Shit, no.

Speaker A:

So I put an extra hour on everything.

Speaker A:

If I be like, I gotta be there at 8 it's 5 right now.

Speaker A:

I'm leaving at 6.

Speaker B:

See, and I'm opposite.

Speaker B:

I was always on time.

Speaker B:

Now I'm late.

Speaker B:

I'm late to every damn thing.

Speaker B:

But anywho, I thank y' all for tuning in with Dr. Stant's turning your hustle into a dang on legacy with my boy Shout out dlo.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Hey, Bay Area, y' all support her.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Hey, hey, don't.

Speaker A:

Don't let her come tap in with you.

Speaker A:

If she ain't tapped in with you, it's cause you know she busy.

Speaker A:

Y' all tap in with her if y' all want to.

Speaker A:

Come on here, man.

Speaker A:

Let.

Speaker A:

Let's support this Bay shit.

Speaker A:

She doing a good thing.

Speaker A:

You ain't even let them know what you doing.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

From a hotel.

Speaker B:

And you know, I got this for you, too.

Speaker B:

From a ho to a CEO, you gotta have that.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Read that.

Speaker B:

I had just finished my book.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

I be trying to, you know, just.

Speaker B:

Just put that out there too, you know, because I want everybody to.

Speaker B:

I think a lot of people know what I'll be doing, you know, just saving a foster.

Speaker A:

You okay?

Speaker B:

And doing transition.

Speaker B:

For real.

Speaker A:

Swear to God.

Speaker B:

That's not good.

Speaker A:

I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm just telling you.

Speaker A:

I didn't know.

Speaker B:

Everybody needs to know that.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

You want to see.

Speaker A:

Look what's gonna overshadow it now because you're getting people that somebody on your show.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker A:

What you have to do is true.

Speaker A:

Implement that when you.

Speaker A:

Every show.

Speaker A:

Every single show, talk about it.

Speaker B:

And you know what?

Speaker A:

Gotta ask people how you feel about this.

Speaker A:

They might have been in foster care.

Speaker A:

You never know if I was or the person you interviewing is or not.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

They might can speak on that.

Speaker B:

I did this for them, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Giving them a platform to come and have a safe space to talk about.

Speaker B:

Cause you know that like I always say, they don't talk to nobody that hasn't had a lived experience.

Speaker B:

They talking to people like me and you.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So at the end of the day, you right.

Speaker B:

I guess I will talk a little bit more about me, but to me, it's about you.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

For Shly.

Speaker A:

But we supporting the cause, though.

Speaker B:

So you feel me, and I appreciate him.

Speaker A:

No, it's all good.

Speaker B:

You know what?

Speaker B:

So we out.

Speaker B:

It's a wrap.

Speaker B:

And y' all tap in with your girl.

Speaker B:

Turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker B:

Y' all know how to find me.

Speaker B:

I holla.

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