"You got the Juice now!" (Juice screening and live talkback at SteelStacks)

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Welcome to Hip-Hop Movie Club, the show

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that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop

with the magic of movies.

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On today's episode, we present our live

talkback at SteelStacks.

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After our screening of the 1992 classic

Juice, starring Tupac Shakur and Omar

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Epps.

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We want to thank Anthony DeSanctis

at ArtsQuest and our man, DJ ARM 18,

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Andrew McIntosh, for helping us

get our first screening off the ground.

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We're three

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oldheads who to put their old heads

together to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm DynoWright, podcaster,

filmmaker, long time Hip-Hop fan.

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And what you hear is not a test.

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I'm JB eighties and nineties

nostalgia, junkie, long time hip hop fan

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And I'm mad excited that Ludacris

is coming to Musikfest in Bethlehem, PA

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this summer.

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I'm BooGie, a DJ, a long time hip hop fan,

and this episode is about one of my all

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time favorite movies.

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So glad I've been able to

watch it on the big screen.

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And now our live Talk Back on Juice.

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There

we go. Hello, everyone. Check, check.

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We've got sound.

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Thank you for coming, those of you

who saw us for the first time.

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Yeah, there's a lot to unpack there.

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We're going to talk about a few things.

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We've got a couple of trivia questions

for some prizes.

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We'll. We'll wrap up the evening.

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So first first, we'll talk about Tupac,

right?

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Sure. So, yeah. I'll kick it off.

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So Tupac Shakur, the late Tupac Shakur,

he was amazing in this film.

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You know,

he really showed his skills as an actor.

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He was only 20 years old

when this movie came out,

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so he must've been around 19

when he was filming it.

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So he was age 20.

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So we had done a podcast episode

about this and we were just saying how

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villainous he was.

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Obviously he was,

he was a terrible person,

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but he was so charismatic and you can see

how he influenced his friends

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just because he was like giving these

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speeches where he rallied the troops that

you wanted to run, run through a wall.

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So I just want to talk really briefly

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about his filmography

and his short amount of time.

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So this movie came out in 1992.

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The following

year, he came out with Poetic Justice.

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He was a star of Poetic Justice.

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(Yes.)

The following year, Above the Rim. Yep.

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And then there was three more,

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and some of them actually came out

posthumously for him.

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There was Bullet, there was Gridlock’d,

and there was Gang Related.

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The last two were posthumous. Yeah. Yeah.

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So yeah, Tupac was just insane.

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So for those of you who are familiar

with Tupac's work, I know some of you

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haven't seen Poetic Justice or Above

the Rim and just saw Juice the first time.

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Any of you want to say

whether Tupac's in your maybe top

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echelon of rappers turned actors,

anyone want to comment on that?

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We certainly do.

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If you've come to some of our events

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and we talk about this on the podcast

as well of

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maybe our Mount Rushmore of rappers

turned actors, he's on that top.

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That top four list.

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Yes. You want to do a trivia question now?

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Sure, sure, sure.

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Tupac.

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So, so, so so Tupac obviously

had auditioned for the role of Bishop,

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but he actually tagged

along with another rapper

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and who was auditioning and ended up

that Tupac got the role for himself.

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Does anybody know?

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Raise

your hand and Wright would run up the mic.

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Who that rapper

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was that rapper was

who had auditioned for it.

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But Tupac ended up getting the role.

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Anyone?

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Anyone? Anyone.

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Any show of hands.

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I heard an answer.

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Rakim. Incorrect.

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Anyone else have a guess?

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Why don't we give the clue

that clue number one.

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Those of you who know Tupac knew

that he ran with Digital Underground.

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So this person was also

in the Digital Underground.

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So any other guesses?

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Shock G? An answer. Incorrect.

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Any other guesses? All right.

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We'll go to a different question

in a little bit.

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We'll just do another fact then about the

director of this movie, Ernest Dickerson.

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Anybody hear of Ernest Dickerson

before this?

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Couple people, maybe.

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A couple real movie heads would.

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But no Ernest Dickerson, Ernest

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Dickerson was Spike Lee's cinematographer

for a lot of his classic films.

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Do the Right Thing.

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X. Mo’ Better Blues.

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Mo’ Better Blues.

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School Daze.

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School Daze. Yeah, he was.

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He was Spike Lee's main man.

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Yeah.

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So there's one other film that Ernest

Dickerson was the cinematographer

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for was, the 1985 classic Krush Groove.

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And if you like this format,

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we are actually hosting the same type

of event on Wednesday, March 27th,

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where we will be showing Krush Groove,

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which, if you don't know,

is the story of the origin

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of like Def Jam Records

with Russell Simmons.

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His story, you get this,

It's like a time capsule.

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You end up seeing the Beastie Boys

when they were teenagers.

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L.L. Cool J. when he's a teenager.

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Run-D.M.C., Run-D.M.C..

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Kurtis Blow, Fat Boys

and Sheila E, many others.

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Yeah.

So come out for that one as well. Yes.

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All right.

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So let's do another trivia question,

and we just have a couple more.

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We won't keep you guys too long.

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By the way, the answer to that

first one was Money B, so Money

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B was the rapper who had auditioned

for the role of Bishop, and then Tupac

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took it right out from under him.

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Okay.

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You can anyone tell me who,

and you may have saw this in the credits?

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Maybe in the beginning.

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Who did the music for this movie?

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You got it.

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You got it. The answer was the Bomb Squad.

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It was actually Hank Shocklee

and the Bomb Squad.

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So congratulations.

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So I'll come up with the prize.

You can choose.

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I got you.

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Got you.

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Our friend here won a Tupac Shakur

T-shirt. Yay!

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Congratulations, sir. All right.

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Because you want to go.

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So there were a lot of cameos

and other hip hop artists in here.

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Boogie, run us through who we saw.

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I’ll see if I could name them all.

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So we had Special Ed who played

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the guy came along

and snatched Rahiem's girl from under him.

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Coincidentally,

they jumped in an Audi: 5000

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Hadda throw that in there.

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All right. Yeah.

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That's good work by Dickerson there. Yeah.

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We had a classic hip hop duo EPMD,

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who was in the bar

as Blizzard was sticking up the joint.

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You got Cindy Herron from En Vogue.

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If you notice real quickly

while, they were in the pool hall

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in the beginning

before the police came in.

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Playing pool with with Tupac.

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Over in the corner was the group X Clan.

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They were all, it was the three of them

over there playing with him.

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He was, we had Oran

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“Juice” Jones was the Snappy Nappy Dugout.

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I love saying it.

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Snappy Nappy Dugout!

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Let me see that (Treach) Yeah. Treach.

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Yes. My goodness.

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God, how can I forget Treach, he’s

from around my way.

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Goodness God.

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So Treach.

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Actually, a member of Radames’s crew.

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And, of course, Queen Latifah.

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Oh yeah.

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Can’t forget the Queen, who's

also from around my way, Queen Latifah,

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who played, she's one of the judges slash

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emcees at the rap, the Deejay Battle.

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We also had Ed Lover, Dr.

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Dre in the audience with

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the Kool DJ Red Alert and also, Chuck

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Chillout were also judges as well.

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And Fab 5 Freddie.

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Fab 5 Freddie.

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And Flex.

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Alexander yes, Flex.

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Alexander Who was the guy who the deejay

who could not get his mixes right.

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He got booted

out of the competition by Queen Latifah.

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Did I think that's that's most of

the beats anybody, any old hip hop heads.

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Maybe it may recognize others,

but I think we got most of them.

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Yeah.

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Let's do another trivia question.

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So what's left is a couple of these.

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Funko Pop heads, mini.

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Minis. Yeah.

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One is Ice Cube, one is Notorious B.I.G.

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So the black and white film

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playing in Steel's house that inspired

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Bishop to, you know, rally the troops,

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name the film or the main actor

in that scene.

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Who knows that that movie was.

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From that black and white film.

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I thought I heard it was that someone

said, I hear it somewhere over here.

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Yes. Correct.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

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So who heard it.

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Or who was first? You got it on the way.

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you all.

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You all right?

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Go, go.

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He's running out into the hall!

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The movie is White Heat.

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It was, so the movie's White Heat.

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White Heat.

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Yes. Classic.

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Just it now I'm more of a Bo Diddley born.

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Top of the. World.

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Top of the world, ma! That’s

where that comes from.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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We deliver on our prizes,

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chase you, JB's running out into the hall.

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Yeah. All right.

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All right.

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So we did the cameos,

and now we want to talk just a little bit

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about the soundtrack.

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The definitely a great hip hop soundtrack

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and ARM was,

spinning some of these songs beforehand.

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If you if you got it a little bit early,

you were in for a treat.

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But three of the bigger hits.

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BooGie, you want to take us through them?

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Yeah well, one of my favorites was Uptown

Anthem by Naughty by Nature.

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We had ‘Nuff Respect by Big Daddy

Kane and Juice

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(Know The Ledge) by Eric B

and Rakim was probably the three

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biggest hits

to come off of that soundtrack.

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There are a plethora of others.

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if you haven't checked out the soundtrack,

by all means, do so.

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Teddy Riley.

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Tammy Lucas, Good to You.

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Those were straight up club bangers.

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Party bangers right there.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Strictly bangers.

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Yeah. I was on the floor. Right, Right.

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I think we just have one more fact,

and then we'll do

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one final trivia question

that we can pretty much wrap.

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Wrap up here.

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Did you guys know that

there was an alternate ending?

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So you saw that dramatic ending

where Bishop falls.

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If you look it up on YouTube,

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you can see

and we talked about on our podcast episode

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as they were about to,

before they released it, they

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they did a focus group

and the ending that they wanted,

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Ernest Dickerson they thought about doing,

but they didn't they didn't do it.

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Was that Bishop actually let go on his own

and he fell on his own volition

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because he had heard sirens

and he heard police below

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and he was thinking,

I don't want to live - I don't want to.

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Yeah, get caught.

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Test audiences didn't like that.

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They didn't like having the

the villain have that much agency.

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And so reluctantly,

Dickerson changed the ending.

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They even added that scream at the end.

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Yeah. To that effect.

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Tupac wasn't too happy

about the ending being changed,

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so they had to appease him by

letting him have a little bit of a scream,

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as he fell.

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Like a half hearted scream.

Yes, Tupac didn't like that.

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But the voters, the view,

the focus group said this is

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just how we're going to do it.

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So that's an interesting tidbit there.

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Yeah, a lot to unpack.

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So we’ll do one final question

and then we'll wrap up.

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Does anybody know

Tupac Shakur's middle name?

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You. You got it.

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It's Amaru. That's close enough. Yeah.

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So he was actually named Tupac Amaru

after the very last Incan chief

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leader, Incan leader.

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So let me grab you a prize.

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Thank you for coming to this event

and know that we've got Krush Groove

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on the 27th and Andrew,

you want to get up here and talk

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about Chuck D again?

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here he comes.

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Just want to thank you.

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And you. And you.

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And you and you

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and everybody who came out tonight

and we've got one of our signature

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events in April is Chuck D coming on April

16th to Northampton Community College.

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It's going to be a conversation

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between Chuck and myself

and some of our students at NCC.

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Going to be a pretty live event.

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We'll have a way of

DJ playing Public Enemy and so on,

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and we're working on putting together

like a PE shrine.

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We want to sort of

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put a lot of of Public Enemy's albums

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and a lot of the music

that Public Enemy inspired from that era

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there and so on.

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But, you know, the other thing that's

going on, we really appreciate ArtsQuest

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for supporting this,

this series of the Hip Hop Movie Club.

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And we're we're hoping after Krush Groove

to continue to do some movies.

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So keep your eyes and ears peeled for it.

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And again, thank you for the support.

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Have a good night.

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Much thanks and respect to ArtsQuest

and SteelStacks.

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Absolutely.

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Thanks, everybody.

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Thank you. All.

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Bring it!

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C’mon!

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Hip-Hop Movie Club is produced by your

HH emcees: JB, Boogie and DynoWight.

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Theme music by Boogie.

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Just like the man said, our next

screening, at SteelStacks, is on March

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27th.

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We will enjoy the 1985 classic Krush

Groove and have another live talkback.

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More facts, more trivia and more fun.

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Get your free tickets

now at SteelStacks.org,

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and come out to a conversation

with Chuck D.

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Yes, Chuck D from Public

Enemy on April 16th

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at the Spartan Center of the Bethlehem

campus of Northampton Community College.

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We'll be there,

so come out and hang with us.

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Get your free tickets

for that at Northampton dot edu.

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Whether you're listening to

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the podcast or watching us on YouTube,

we appreciate you.

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Thanks for tuning in So

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real quick show of hands,

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who here saw Juice for the first time,

just now?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you for coming

through. Bring it! C’mon!

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