We're talking about Season 1, Episode 11 of Supernatural "Scarecrow." Do all roads lead to pie? Only evil girls knowingly get into shady vans! Liz divulges her new crush on Dr. Jackson Crawford, the snack of a cowboy Old Norse expert. And it wouldn't be Devi's Trap without talking Phallus Magic when we delve in to the mythology behind the Vanir and other Norse mythology.

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Welcome to episode eleven of Devil's Trap podcast. This week we'll talk about pie and.

Also dick magic, as well as shady.

Vans and the bitches who ride in them. Let's do it. All right. Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana.

I'm Liz.

I hate scarecrows. I really do. I am not a fan. I am so not a fan of this one. I will get into reasons why I am not a fan.

Actually, there are a lot of things I love about this episode, but I don't like scarecrows. Anyhow, before we get into that, what's on the beverage menu for this evening?

I am once again enjoying some TX whiskey, which is weird for me, but I got some new diet ginger ale. It's the Xevia ginger ale, so I wanted to try that with it.

Did you get it from Costco?

No, I didn't. I am not drinking anything from Costco tonight. You're welcome. But yeah, so I'm making, I made a little cocktail with that, plus our alcohol level.

I mean, our wine's back on point, but we've been, we drank a lot of wine last night and a little.

Bit, I was wondering, I got text messages from her last night. I think Diana was going to bed around nine and I was like, I wonder if Diana's gonna drink it all tomorrow.

Yeah, I was. We drank a lot of wine last night. It was our Sunday night, getting ready to start the week wine drinking, apparently.

And the night before, we drank margaritas and then wine, so I had to kind of figure out what I wanted to drink. And after my stepson was here for, Dave's son was here for about a month, our vodka supplies gone. So I had to be a little creative.

Creative with my drinking. How about you?

I am drinking a Ron Gates. Ron Gates is a wine from the Texas hill country. They are one of our 290 wines.

Went through the win my last wine tasting, and this one is called amalgamation. I do like the, I really like the name of it. It's just a blend. It's a Texas red wine blend. All the grapes are from.

All these grapes are from Texas high plains and I do like how they prominently put 14.3% alcohol by volume right on the label. I'm going to be feeling good by the time we're done with this episode.

Nice.

So apologies in advance for all the shitty things I'm going to say about stuff, so.

Oh, yee ha.

So we will post pictures because Diana is super fly tonight. She is rocking this beehive and this, like, burnt orange, like, turtleneck sweater, and she is just. She's a groovy chick. She's a super groovy chick.

I was feeling some sixties vibes this morning when I was getting ready. It's all right, you know. Yeah, duchess. The cattle Cadillac is in good shape. She had a little bit of a rough weekend, and then we got it resolved.

So, you know, I'm feeling my 63 cadillac was inspiring me, and I felt the sixties vibes when I was getting ready this morning and my hair was dirty and I didn't feel like washing it.

I mean, I was wearing workout clothes for most of the day because sometimes I feel like if I wear workout clothes that I will go into my exercise room and actually do stuff. I did get on the rowing machine for five minutes today. So I was like, hell, yeah. Like, I got.

I got my heart beat up and my fit tracker was like, what are you doing? What is happening? You're not. You're not being sedentary.

But then, of course, like, now it has the things that, like, alert you, like, you should get moving. I'm like, I'm eating lunch. Like, do you want me to be running while I'm eating lunch?

I get really excited when my watch tells me that it's time for me to stand. I'm like, I should get up and stand up and walk around. First I get mad about it and I'm like, fuck you. I'll stand up when I fucking feel like it.

And now I'm like, oh, I got. I met my goal for the number of times I stood up today. I don't know.

Yeah, I did not.

Little things.

And the thing, too, is, like, once you really start looking at it, it is amazing when you have a small house, how little. I'm actually, like, moving from my desk, which probably explains a lot of things. But I'm like, oh. And they're like, your goal set.

Goal should be 10,000. I'm like, no fire.

It is my goal. I have not hit it very often. It's a lot of steps. I did. I did. I did a different workout this morning, and it made me feel not cool at all.

But it's okay. I did one of the. I did a dance. One of my apps. I did a dance workout. Their take on, like, zumba ish shit.

Did Dave do it with you?

No.

Damn it. I would have liked to see.

He keeps asserting that he wants to take a hip hop dance class, and I am here for it. So.

So am I. I don't think you should take it with him. I just want Dave to take it. Unless you.

I don't want to take it with him, but I would take a hip hop dance class. That'd be fun. But I don't know.

I surprisingly do have rhythm. You know, once upon a time, I did teach, you know, teach dance classes with my. With shout out a little bit if you're listening to this. Hope you are.

We're talking a while, but, yeah, we used to teach when we were an undergrad. That was how we supplemented our income was by. And also how we got into shows for free before we both started djing, it was like, hey, we can.

We can start this show early and we'll teach people how to swing dance because it's really not that hard. But it was also one of those, I'm not that great.

I can follow. I'm a great follower at that.

Yeah, I mean, what I always thought was really funny, and no offense to my father, but I really thought, because, you know, I used to step with my dad at weddings and stuff, and I was like, oh, I don't know how to dance. And then I realized that it's my dad who doesn't know how to dance. And I was like. I was like, oh, no, I can actually. I can do this.

So.

Yeah, but it's been a while. I haven't been to, like, usually, like, now it's like, at a wedding or something.

And it's been a while since I've been to a wedding, since my friends are all old and divorced. The other thing I did do this weekend was I was tempting to go through the wicked baker's cookbook.

So the wicked baker, apparently, is a goth chick who was on the great british baking show. And now I have to go watch it because I was like, I don't really want to watch this show. But now I'm like, there's a goth chick on it?

Fuck yeah, I want to watch this. And she put together this bakery. And so now my kitchen is full of all new baking stuff.

I have a new utility cartae that I have to assemble to put in all my new supplies because my house is not a house that is move. Unfortunately, it doesn't like increasing capacity to hold all my shit. So, yeah, the pantry is like, no, no, stop putting.

But also, like, I find that when I have, like, cool baking things, they go into the pantry and I forget about them.

Yeah.

And they sit there. So I had to go. I did go through a lot of the pantry and just get rid of things that are there from basket, like, past baking projects.

And you baked this weekend, too, from it?

I did. I made lemon time tea cupcakes, which were delicious. And then I got diabetes from eating the icing as I was making it. But I made them into.

I made little sandworms because that was one of the things in here. And it was a very nailed it moment where it's just like, oh, yeah, your sandworms are so cute. I'm like, oh, mine are. Mine are not cute because they.

I mean, they looked good enough. Like, they photographed well. But there's also, like, I only did it for two cupcakes because I gave, like, some.

My cousin stopped by, and I gave her some to take to her kids, but I didn't like their package to go. And I was like, I'm not gonna put sandworms in these because they're gonna fall apart. And also, what's the point of, like, I love decorating stuff.

But you're not gonna eat modeling chocolate, right? I'm, like, giving it to you and for your children. Like, your children would be like, oh, cool, I want to eat this modeling chocolate.

And they'd be like, like, ugh, this tastes like crap because it's fucking bottling chocolate. I mean, it was fondant.

I'm the one that likes fondant, so I'll eat fondant. I don't give a shit.

Fondant. So gross.

I don't know why. I kind of like, it's like, really? It's like. It's like a gummy, like, necco wafer. And I'm like, okay, well, and this.

Was my first time really playing with it, and I like it.

I mean, it's, you know, I've sculpted before, so it's like sculpting, but it is a really difficult medium because once you start working with, it gets really pliable. Well, then if you're trying to make something that has a shape, then it was just limp dicking it.

And, like, then I was like, okay, well, I need to throw this in the freezer. And I was like, I put them on a plate in the freezer, and then they, like, dumped out, and they all were in my ice cube tray.

So then I had, like, all these, like, beetlejuice snakes all over my ice cube tray. And it's like, I hopefully I caught them out. I got them all. Cause I can't. I'm not.

You're just gonna find sandworms in your freezer. Frick.

The next time I am gonna find sandworms in my freezer. Well, they weren't painted yet. Cause that was a problem, too. Do a sandworm, you have to paint around it.

So as I was touching it to try and move it around in a circle, and I was trying all sorts of things to get the black ring around it. That's really was a problem. Was trying to figure out how to manipulate it so I can get to the bottom of it.

Right.

So also, the cat has joined us. She is perched on my. On my shoulder.

She is here for our episode into it. But, yeah, we were driving Dutchess to go our big weekend excitement, other than going to eat at one of our favorite restaurants in Dallas.

On Friday at Niwa, we went and grilled our own meat, and it was delicious. Some good friends. And then on Saturday, we were. Had a big family. We had.

My family got together for a big dinner to celebrate my brother, who is leaving for Navy boot camp on Thursday. So pretty exciting stuff. He's getting ready to go freeze his ass off, uh, up north. Like, they're sending him great Lakes area.

So that's where that'll be fun. Um, we're excited, actually. I need to look at the picture you posted on Instagram because I know, like, he shaved his head, and I've never.

Her brother, so. Also, if you don't know, Diana's family is. Whereas I am a tiny, tiny person. Diana comes from a family of giants.

I'm the shortest person at 593.

Yeah. And Jamie, her brother, is, what is he, six? Six three ish. And he usually has really big hair.

So not, like, you know, eighties rocker hair, but just like, a mop. He has.

He has a lot of hair, and he's worn up shaggy or long before. And then just kind of when he. Even when it's short, it kind of just, you know, kind of does, like, a cool stand up thing. I don't know.

Yeah, dude, here.

So, yeah, I'm very intrigued to see what he looks like with. With. With a shaved head.

Pretty funny. He said. He said his head's a lot lighter. I'm like, yeah, that happened.

That. That is what happens when he. But did he find weird bumps? I mean, I've always, like, wondered, like, when guys shave their heads.

Like, it didn't look like it. He had. He had a barber, a barber shop near the house that he's gone to for a very long time.

And someone that knows our family a little bit named Hollis at Barbersville did. Had insisted on wanting to shave his head when he left. So he went and saw him. And it was kind of, kind of, kind of sweet.

But, yeah, we had a nice little gathering to do all that fun stuff and drink too much. Too many barbaritas is what we call margaritas that my dad makes and have.

I also did get my hair done this weekend, actually. My salon is really.

I really like, it's really good for a pandemic hair salon, I think, because although stylists have their own, like, offices, so you're not around anybody. So you just go in and your mask and you go and you sit in your room. It's just you in your room. Andrew, Silas.

And then, you know, so once she's like, they're dying her hair, and then she leaves. And so also, it's really great if you don't like people. And I also generally like beauty salon talking usually drives me fucking crazy.

So it's just like, cool.

I'm going to sit in here and work on research for this week's episode and was trying to figure out what we're going to talk about this weekend, finally, because when we get to Laura, we'll talk about some of the things I thought about going through, but.

Well, fun.

Yep. So I think that is time for us to get started.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Lots by us. And now about the episode. All right.

So go for it.

All right.

This was directed by the fact that fabulous Kim Manners, so we know he's done lots of things we love. Teleplay was done by John Chabon, who's the one who did skin and Hookman, and we'll see him in some more episodes.

But the story was by Patrick Sean Smith, and this is the only supernatural episode he wrote. But he also produced Dolly Parton's heartstrings, so we got a Dolly Parton. He wrote and produced on that. And then he was also the creator of Greek.

And I haven't thought about that show in a very long time. And now I want to go back and rewatch it. I don't know if it's on. Did you ever watch that show?

I did not.

It was not a long lived one. There was probably only, like, three or four seasons, but it was about, you know, it was a college one, but it was a quirky college one.

So, yeah, I want to go back and revisit it. So that's who wrote this?

Well, I got some interesting cast notes that I wanted to share because I don't know what it was about this episode, but I felt like everybody, I was like, I know that face from somewhere. And most of them I didn't. But I still found out some interesting shit, except for one I did recognize for sure.

So Laura Gilchrist plays Holly, and obviously we'll get to where these people fall in the story. Basically, she's just in a shit ton of lifetime and Hallmark holiday movies now. I thought one other person looked familiar.

The guy that played Scotty ends up, though he's in multiple episodes or multiple supernatural episodes in later seasons as well. He's in about three episodes. This one in season one and one in season six and one in season 15.

Just kind of interesting that recasting another interesting one was the man who played the scarecrow. Actually in this episode is Mike Carpenter, who's also in an episode in season six, another one in season eight.

Most importantly, what he is known for is being main stunt person for the movie elf. There you go. So I was excited about that because that is, like, one of my favorite holiday. That is one of my favorite holiday movies. It's greatness.

And then one of the most exciting casting notes.

Okay, I was wondering. I was like, wait, are we getting there? No.

We are building up to. The professor at the college that Dean goes to visit is played by William B. Davis, best known as the cigarette smoking man on X Files. Yeah.

I was like, no, she can't miss that.

Like, that's like, no, I like my exiles, so. And as a side note, he also did have a role in the Sabrina, the new Adventures of Sabrina. He is Methuselah on the witches council.

Oh, all right, we gotta tie in.

I never caught that one, so thank you.

IMDb. I was really proud of myself. I'm like, some of these people, I'm like, that looks familiar. I'm like, nope, don't know that.

I've looked at what they've been and I haven't seen any of that shit. And then some of these. And I was like, oh, shit, when I got to that.

Like, it's kind of maintained from, like, the late nineties on, apparently. Which good fan.

We may have a lizard person. We've got a lizard person.

So, yeah, so kind of a cool. Kind of some cool tie tie ins, especially. We got a Sabrina tie in, too, so there we go.

Yeah, we're getting all our spooky tie inside tonight.

All right, so let's, uh, let's talk about this episode. So, um, the episode starts, and it says one year ago in Burkettsville, Indiana. Um, and there's a couple even restaurant. Obviously, I'm not.

When we won't go too deep in and just.

Well, except they're getting pie. I think pie is the unnamed hero of this episode.

Is the pie free apple pie. A whole one, not a slice they get given.

Yeah. And I was like, would you want to murder me, Kate? Offer me a free pie. And I. You can probably get. Yeah, you will get very far.

Yeah. And then, um, there's. So it's a couple that obviously run, like, this rest stop restaurant kind of thing.

And they do have a younger, a teenage girl with them. And she says, cool tattoo to the gentleman leaving the cup of the couple. And anyway, so he's just. It's.

I didn't really have any note, but it's kind of like this. Just very obvious, but weirdly placed.

Yeah. I don't know how I did not get in there. I did this knock in my notes, but at least she says, cool tat later.

That tat gets loose later this time she says, tattoo. Dean is the one who says tat. So that is. That's on him. And we will get there, because we will get there.

You also have that in your notes. Okay.

I was like, no, no. She said, cool tattoo, and he said, thanks. And it's just like, it looks kind of like a. Like a nothing.

Not tribal in, like, the shitty early nineties way, but tribal in the, like, an actual polynesian.

Polynesian inspired polynesian, but also a little bit scandinavian, too. Like, I was.

And I was like, celtic. Kind of a look celtic or asian tribal influence, kind of forearm tattoo.

I don't know, because I'm like, if she's mentioning it and it's in the episode, it's going to be important. Damn it. Like, cues. I know my cues to make notes of, but, um, so, yeah, so they're getting directions in their name.

The couple we find to figure out their names are Vince and Holly, my reference. And so they're driving.

Obviously, they're in this town where everybody's way too nice and they fixed their car for them and gave them directions back to the highway, and they start driving away. So you know some bad shit's gonna happen, obviously.

Clearly.

And as they're driving, the car, like, dies. It was a weird die too. It was like, just kind of sputtered and stopped and then power went down. And then their phone, their phones lost power too.

Well, there is part of it's like, well, that's what you get for driving that shitty mustang. And, like, I can't throw shade on that. I obviously have that mustang and I love that.

I loved mustangs, but it wasn't like I had as a lean or anything. At some point in your life, everybody should own a mustang. But, yeah, I'm not surprised it broke down.

I was like, yeah, that happens. That happens. Look at your car. Yep. Yeah.

And so, but the first instinct after your car breaks down on an abandoned road with a no lights in either direction is to see this house apparently hidden back in the woods and go wander into a fucking orchard.

I mean, it was pretty close, though. I mean, so if I'm on this.

Real, like, it sounds like it looked close, like when they said they were going to do it, but then once they started walking, it was a long fucking way.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. There is that you're on a deserted, deserted highway. How many cars are going to come through? And. I don't know, but, yeah.

Anyhow, so anyways, so this is my new.

So they're walking through the apple orchard, which actually worked. They were hazelnut trees and not apples, but the set decorators put buckets with apples next to them.

That's what I saw.

And it was like, clearly that's. You guys are terrible at clearing your apples. Like, you just take them out and you put them next to the bucket.

The apples are supposed to go inside what you're picking, not next to them.

I mean, hazelnuts are delicious too, but that's kind of.

I'm not a huge hazelnut fan, but.

I like, sometimes I like it in coffee. I'm not like a hazelnut fanatic here.

Well, I like Nutella, so, I mean, I'm not a Nutella crazy person.

And I did have them on one of my green chef meals last week that had, like, I toasted some hazelnuts and it provided some crunch, but they're not my go to.

Sounds like a lot of work.

You just put them in a pan and you shake it. Yeah, you shake it like a Polaroid picture, and then you have toasted hazelnuts.

A little like my shimmy.

Diana's doing her little sixties shimmy.

I got my sixties twist going on. Yeah. So, anyways, those. I like that, though.

They go and they see this creepy ass scarecrow, and then they, like, acknowledge how fucking scary it is, and they keep walking and scary. It's like. It's, like leather facey, like, sewn together, fucking nasty face. Gross ass. Like, that is not a normal scarecrow. No.

No, it's not.

Scarecrows. Already creepy. This is not your standard scarecrow. And they don't seem that fazed by it other than to be like, it's creepy.

And then neither of them noticed that it moves its goddamn head when they move past it.

Nope. Nope.

So not a fan.

I will say that this is a favorite episode of a lot of the cast members. And really just because of how creepy that scarecrow was, they're like, yeah, we did a lot of things with this that were creepy as fuck.

I'm like, you're right.

It.

Creepy as fuck.

Very creepy. Yeah.

So, I mean, basically, as to be expected, then all of a sudden, the scarecrow is off of the post that it's on, and they're being chased through the woods. Guy gets, you know, separated from the chick, and all of a sudden, he gets dumped faceless next to her. And, yeah, she screams.

It ate his face.

Ate his face. And anyway, so. And of course, she's, like, trying to run away and Dodd's gonna get her. Too. Obvious.

Yep. I do think at some point, though, I'd be like, fuck you, scary scarecrow. And, like, you're a goddamn made of straw, and I'm gonna fight back.

Like, I'm not gonna be running at you. Like, I'm like, you're a goddamn scarecrow. No, sir. Not today, scarecrow.

There's, like. I mean, so many. Like. I mean, there was, like, ladders and, like, baskets, apples. Like, nothing. You're just gonna scream and crawl backward.

Crab walk backwards on the ground, which is not an efficient way of moving.

I get crab walking backwards. Unless you're. Unless you're a poltergeist, is never an efficient thing. Like, it's just not.

It's something horrible that trainers make you do in boot campsite. Sorry. Now, I went to a real scary place of, like, scarecrow.

I got shit on my trainer.

I was like, oh, my God. I got to crab walk into a burpee.

And.

Yeah, okay. So, yeah, scary scarecrow eats them. We're done.

So we cut to the cool ass hotel room that Sam and Dean are staying in. That last episode ended on and we're picking up actually with that last scene right now.

I mean, they, I was happy with, like, they ties you back into where you were and it carries it over pretty well. Um, it didn't bother me. It should be something like, wait, I saw this. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. This ties it in, maybe for me.

It was, it was a nice continuity. I'm glad that they didn't, like, just jump over what had happened and they paid it back a bit so you can kind of like.

And then I was like, oh, also, Jean still doesn't have a shirt on.

So I'm just like, here's like, bonus. Anyway, so obviously it's dad on the phone.

And now we actually get the conversation instead of just Sam answering the phone and it being dad, which is pretty important.

And really, I mean, the conversation, I guess I just really is, and I think this has carried on through, has been built up to be this conversation where really, Sam a wants to know where the fuck dad is and wants to know what happened to mom and therefore Jess, which dad acknowledges. He knows what happened to Jess. Dad doesn't want them to find him. He don't. He doesn't want them to come look for him at all.

He doesn't want to work with them. He wants them to go do other shit. And Sam is just like, no, fuck you. I'm going to come find you. We want to figure out the real mystery.

And so it's kind of the one that's the questioner. Whereas Dean is the one that's like, takes the phone from him and is like, yes, sir, we'll be there.

Because he wants to go do exactly what dad tells them to.

Yep.

So, yeah, that's kind of the.

And obviously, these are not new roles, but we do learn, like, we learned some really cool things. Like, cool things. But we learned that it was a demon. Right. So it's a very interesting fact for us.

Like, okay, now we actually know that there's something like, this is not a poltergeist. This is not a ghost. This is a demon. And then also by what John is telling them is, you know, these things are watching us. We're not safe.

And I think that's an important storyline note also, I already told Diana there's a lot of things this episode that I'm trying to back off of because I don't want to be a spoiler person, but that he said so. Not spoiling.

He did say that. No, he did. I didn't really stick with you. But, yeah, he absolutely did say that. And I don't know why I didn't note it more.

I guess I was just so focused on the relationship of, like I wrote, sam asks questions, dean follows orders. And that's what I wrote. And I think that was a good summary of kind of that conversation.

But that also, you see how that's part of the wedge between them and because their perspective is so different.

Well, and clearly that becomes a major part of this episode.

Oh, God, it's.

But also in a good. I feel like. And, you know, I feel like this episode resolves this in a way, so I'm no longer so angry at it.

Like, I was like, okay, we've been building up to this in the past eleven fucking episodes, at least. Like, we finally. I think we make some progress in.

That, in their communication and their relationship. We had a break. We have a breakthrough in this.

Yep. Episode.

Yeah. So obviously, because of this, Sam wants to go see dad. Dean says, no, fuck you, we're gonna go solve this mystery.

And Sam, Sam, kind of a couple of the specific lines that I thought are quotes, little snippets that I thought were interesting was that Sam called what Dean has blind faith in their dad, and Dean views it as being a good son. So I thought that was that. Just to me, obviously, it's just repeating their stance on their dad's statement, but I thought those were specific lines.

So. So Sam gets out of the car and says, I'm gonna. Well, Sam says, I'm leaving. Even though dad sent them on this mission to go.

It's where the couples are missing, which happens to be this. Burkittsville, Indiana. But Sam says, fuck this. I'm gonna go find dad.

I'm going to California deuces and gets out of the car in the middle of the road and walks off with his bags, which seems impressive cause you're.

In the middle of fucking nowhere. I'm like, okay.

I'm like, even if you went, like, further away from your destination, you'd probably still be better off if you got to, like, I don't know, a gas station, a town.

Yeah, anything but, you know. And also, like, what is in your bags? Like, I am very impressed. Like, whatever you have, like, you're ready to go.

And somebody did note that, like, Sam took the laptop and just, you know. So the laptop is Sam. So how was Dean's gonna research. Does Dean have a second laptop?

Who or the BlackBerry, who knows what's going to happen with Dean technology wise. But also, Dean was really, and I think.

I think, too, was kind of interesting was that Dean was really impressed that his dad was, like, picked this pattern out. So I'm like, damn, John the dad. And he's like, you are multitasking. Like you're searching for this demon at the same time.

Like, you have multitasking like this. That happened in Berkutsville, Indiana.

Like, found this.

Unless some. Some other hunter from the pattern, I don't know.

But.

So it's just like, wow.

That.

That is. Dean's right. It's impressive.

Yeah.

And. And there is also this line of which is, to me, this kind of what's more important, is it helping other people or helping yourself?

Because to figure out what happened to your mom and to Jess is helping yourself. And so when Dean calls himselfish, like, I don't think he's wrong and it's not.

But I don't necessarily think, you know, it's a bad thing that what Sam wants to pursue.

It's not as being, I think being selfish sometimes. It's okay.

It is. But it really is like, okay, you have to help other people.

And while Dean is doing it partially because dad ordered him to, he's also taking this other road of saying, I want to go pursue this and help other people. This is what I do.

I think he needs to help other people. But that's a different, deeper thing.

Oh, yeah.

So, yeah, so they kind of do, like, this thing, this starting right here, where as Dean gets into Burkettsville, where basically they both, like, do, like, pick up the phone. Like the shitty scene in, like, movies where a couple breaks up. Really, they hold up the phone like they're about to call them and they don't.

They put it away. So that happens a few times in this episode, which, I mean, I get it, but also it's like.

And so he basically is trying to explore the town and ask around about Holly and Vince, and no one really wants to talk to him about it because that's the most recently disappeared couple. It is kind of funny, though. He says his name is John Bowman.

Bonham.

Bonham. Sorry, my bad news. John Bonham. And gets called out for it.

It's okay. We're not huge, loud Zeppelin fans.

I know who he is, though. He's kind of a big deal.

Yeah, he's kind of a deal. And. But my favorite screeching weasel song is I hate Led Zeppelin. And that's been one of my favorite songs since I was 15 years old.

So, anyhow, okay, so moving.

Um, so, yeah, so we cut back to Sam. And Sam, he's a girl sneaking up on some chick on the side of the road, which is. That's that weird. So sketchy.

Like, what the fuck is this bitch doing? And, uh, anyway, so she's sitting, just sitting on the side of a country road all by herself like nothing anywhere around her.

And he totally snakes up on her. She's listening to headphones. And I looked, I was able to pull what song I think it is.

It appears to be a song called Puppet, which is kind of funny at this point by a band named Colpitz with a Z. Colpitz, who I'm not familiar with.

And I chose not to look up any further, but I thought the name of the song was an interesting one going into the episode because this is all we know right now is there's a fucking scarecrow. And you're like, obviously that Scarecrow is not animating itself. It's just my assumption show. So, uh, I was like, oh, that's clever.

Okay, let's see what's happening here. But, yeah, so her. So both this chick and Sam are apparently hitchhiking. And, um, she gets in a shady van.

But she gets in a shady van, so good for her.

Yeah. So a couple things to him that I had. She also says that he could be some kind of a freak. So we have. The freak thing is coming out again.

And then my note on, like, getting into the van, I'm like, because that isn't shady. So both of us are like, nope, this is shady. Yeah, so shady.

So, yeah. Um, so anyways, the, um, we cut back to Dean in town and he's just really trying to ask around. And, um.

Um, everybody in this town is just kind of like, nope, didn't recognize them. Who knows? We don't get a lot of outsiders here. And then the teenage chick, she's like an older teenager, whatever.

She walks, she shows up and she's like, oh, wait, didn't that guy have a forearm tattoo? And then the couple is kind of like, oh, yeah. Because obviously she, like, lives with them. And so, yeah, we saw them. They weren't here long.

They left by kind of thing, which is kind of funny, but the tattoo came back. So I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a thing. Yeah, we'll get there, kind of.

And this is where it happens. This is where Dean calls it a tat.

Is it? I thought it was later.

No, I have it right here. It says, which Dean calls a tat because it's followed by ugh. And so, just so you know, if you use the word tat, you're not cool. It's really annoying.

My BFF, who is a tattoo artist, says calling a tat to a tat is like calling your country a cunt. So. But, yeah, no, that word is gross. I don't want to hear that you have a cool tat or that you got inked.

Like, none of these things make you a cool person.

I mean, like, I've heard, like, funny jokes, like, oh, let's get party tats or something like that. Like, from. In tattoo worlds, I will say things like that. But if you're not in that circle and actually doing that, don't fucking use that.

The tattoo, it's.

It's not a cool word. And if you ask me to look at my tats or you tell me that I have a good tat, no, I will not like you so bad.

So bad. So, yeah. Um. So basically, he's having a terrible time.

Oh, the other thing happened. This is so, um, I was also really impressed that Emily knew where the gas tank was. Yeah, because that's not a.

You know, if that is not a normal place for a gas tank to be in a car anymore, to be behind the license plate, and she just went straight for it.

So it didn't stand out to me because that's where it is on Duchesse. But you're correct. That is a good note for sure. Because it is not always. I hate filling it up there.

But why?

It's just. Well, because, like, you can't put the cap anywhere because you don't want to scratch your paint, and then you don't anyway.

And then the license plates, like, spring loaded, so you've, like, hold it open. And then modern gas pumps. It's kind of hard to, like, depending on the neck of your.

Of your gas tank, you have to, like, kind of shove that sucker in there and hold it to get it.

Put it in real deep, and then you gotta hold it.

You gotta push it in real deep and hold it there. Um, and then. And then depending on how good and modern your gas tank is, mine is not. Uh, you have a really high chance of, like, splash back.

So I'm like, I mean, I can put gas in my car. I have put gas in my car multiple times. But if I don't have to, I'm like.

Yeah, yeah. So if we were in jersey, like, you wouldn't have to do that. And then you would have to watch some, like, 15 year old guy trying to figure that out.

And it'd be fucking hilarious. Especially because you'd be doing it while it's snowing.

And in that oregon, too. It's like that where you can't get organ.

But I spent more time in Jersey. But you always keep me. It always keep me busy. Yeah. You don't turn off the car. That's what creeps me out the most. It's like.

Which is weird because they make. They put, like. I mean, sometimes I usually turn mine off, but they have, like, signs all over our gas pumps. Like, turn off your car. I don't know.

Yeah.

And your cell. And your cell phone is going to cause static shock that explodes the entire gas station, which is.

You're gonna blow thing up. You should be more concerned about the skimmers that are in those gas tanks.

Or taking. Yeah, exactly.

But anyhow, okay, so blah, blah, blah, back to this episode. By the way, 14% wine. Told you it was gonna get dirty. Yeah.

So we. So we go. So. So, Sam, I'm sorry. So, darker steps.

Yeah. What other thing? Emily also notes how the town is blessed. I think. That's right.

It is. She's talking about how blessed the town is. So she.

So Dean goes to follow the path of basically see where these folks drove off to and follow their path and finds the goddamn orchard. Because that's what he does. And then because his EMP meter was going off. So that's why he, like, was like, oh, shit.

Emf.

Emf. God damn it. I knew I was. I'm all over the place tonight. I got my pronunciation. I got my musicians and my electronics all wrong.

Sixties. Diana does not know about things like EMF.

I wouldn't know these things. Oh, yeah. So he. His EMF reader is going nuts. So he pulls over to this orchard, and then he's checking out this. He finds the scarecrow, obviously.

That's when he says cold tat.

Yeah.

So he sees. So he's looking at the scarecrow and, like, checking it out, and he pulls up a ladder.

It's like getting close to this nasty thing, which also, it is weird that a scarecrow is armed, for the record. Like, that's not normal for it to have, like, a weapon in its hand. In this way.

Also convenient. There is a ladder. I mean, I know it's an orchard, but that was a nice ladder. I was like, yeah, I would use it, too.

And he sees. And he sees. The scarecrow's arm is partially exposed where it's holding its. I mean, it's kind of like a reaper reaping tool.

So it's like some kind of a mini scythe kind of thing. I don't know. You call it farm implement. That's sharpen. Um, and.

And he said he sees, like, this on the, like, the mummified arm of this scarecrow, this faded out tattoo. It's all fucked up. And that's where he's like, he goes, nice chat.

Yeah.

After he says. After he says, dude, you fugly. I believe he said that. First he says, oh, he did you fugly? Then he gets on the ladder and says, nice tat.

And I kind of wanted to knock him off the ladder between those two statements, but.

But also, how. How long has it been since you've heard the term fugly?

It's been a minute. And I was appreciative of it. I wrote it down. I liked it so much.

So in my head, I always go to, like, the cheerleader. Like, f u g l y. You ain't got no alibi. You fugly. You fugly.

Mm hmm. Yeah. So anyways.

Okay. Yeah, this is what all the shit, apparently, I skip.

You're jumping. You're jumping.

I skipped.

So this is when he goes back to the service station. He talks to Emily. She's putting gas in his car. And that's when she said.

She explains that she lives with her aunt, uncle, and that's when she talks about how the town is blessed and that it just kind of is. And then he asks about the scarecrow, and she's like, it's just kind of always been there.

And then he notices a broken down car, and, of course, it belongs to a couple who's stuck there because their car broke down.

It was a nice truck, too. Like, it was a nice pickup. I'd be like, yeah.

And so. So, of course, he wants. So we'll get back to. We'll come back to him in a minute.

But Sam's trying to get on a bus ticket to California from wherever the fuck he is, in the middle of nowhere, sitting there, hanging out with this weird blonde chick. But they can't get a California bus ticket until the next day. So now he's going to sleep in the bus station, apparently.

And that's where the chick shows up. Her name is Meg. She is very flirty. And she does say that the.

That she's no longer riding in that van because that van was shady, apparently, but that she also apparently is destined for California. Convenient. Yeah. Interesting. I don't trust this bitch. Anyways, so they go, we should, we should cut back to Dean.

And of course he's going to go try to like, talk to this couple in the cafe because they're broken down. He knows they're next on the fucking list.

And he wants pie.

Well, I mean, yeah, everybody wants pie. Duh. So he's in there and just trying to like, kind of give him a hint, trying to like, feel them out. Offers to help them offer.

Tries to warn them that they aren't safe and they are not interested in his warnings or offers because he is not smooth at all. And, uh, the restaurant owner calls the sheriff on him, who runs dean out of town.

Yeah. And so, like, he was super creepy. And I also would be like, no, dude, like, not, please step off.

Like, please, please don't touch my brake lines.

Yeah, no, no, you, you sound like a serial killer is what you sound like. But then I was also thinking about, like, so can sheriffs really run people out of town like that?

I mean, I'm sure they can try. I mean, what are you going to do, fight them?

I don't know. I mean, like, what could. What, really? Theoretically, what was he doing?

Are there legal ramifications for running for a sheriff? Running someone out of town? I don't think so.

Uh, but I mean, if he's going to physically remove you from town, I'm, I'm sure he's physically capable of doing that.

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know.

If you have, if you've ever been run out of town by a sheriff, please let us know.

That's. Yeah, no, I know. I was like, this seems very violating of rights. Yeah, I was like, I was like, oh, you didn't. He's not being detained. He's not.

I figured they would just pass.

He's not doing anything. He's just being creepy and asking weird questions.

Yeah, I mean, they could have trespassed him out of the restaurant. That's what I would have thought was. That's what I thought was going to happen. Was I?

Because you could say, I want you to leave my restaurant. If I refuse to leave, then okay, then he's committing a crime. Okay.

Yeah, that's what I assume. That's what I thought they were going to do. But you can't really trust someone trespass someone out of town, from my understanding, so. Yeah, so yeah.

So we cut back to Meg and Sam having some shitty vendor vending machine food and beers, which where did. That's kind of random. I guess they went and bought them somewhere else at the bus station, which has ashtrays in it.

Two thousands. You know, bus trays. You probably smoke in bus. Bus stations.

I still doubt that. But it was still weird. And so she's telling a whole story about how she just wanted to get away from her family and how she.

That's why she's on the go by herself and had to make her own life kind of thing. Her own life choices. And Sam's like, yeah, I totally relate to that. Because that's what he thinks he's doing.

Well. And it was like everything she is saying is everything he wants to hear, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like, too perfect. That's why I told you. I don't trust this bitch. So anyways, though, her toast was.

The food might be bad and the beds might be hard, but at least we're living our own lives and no one else's.

Yep. So I'm trying to adjust my headphones and my hair is doing this really weird poking. Unlike Diana's super amazing beehive.

Like, my hair is just doing legit.

It looks better in this camera than it does in real life, but we'll take it. So anyways, of course Dean's gonna go back to town at night, duh. Because he's not gonna leave well enough alone.

And of course, that couple that ignored him are broken down and walking through the orchard. And here's a fucking scarecrow. And so Dean shows up because he knows that that's where they're gonna be. Because this is the pattern, right?

So he's following the pattern and he tells them that they need to go to the fucking car and start blasting the scarecrow with his shotgun with rock salt in it, which doesn't really do anything to the scarecrow. Barely slows it down.

No, no. But he also, in the end, the scarecrow is like, okay, this is a lot of work and I'm tired.

Fuck this. I'm done. Morgan.

I've been up on a post all day. Like, it's really hard, I guess. Yeah, I'm just gonna go back and I just wanted to eat.

I just wanted to eat this nice couple and you're taking away my hamburger. So I'm gonna go back and go back up to my post.

Yeah. And the dude goes, what was that? Dean goes, don't ask.

That's legit. Yeah.

Which I'm just gonna say, no, fuck you. I don't care what I believe in or not. I just saw some crazy ass shit in the woods. Tell me what the fuck that was, you know?

And I'm like, can we go set it on fire? Like, I'm not gonna. Like, as much as I want to save myself, I'm also like, I don't want to leave that there.

Like, I would not just be like, I'm gonna leave town, ignore the scarecrow that was running after me.

Sounds dangerous. Sounds irresponsible.

What kind of PTSD therapy you're gonna have to have or a scarecrow that.

Try to eat and then leave you, and no one is gonna believe you. Yeah. So anyways, so we cut back to the bus station.

And though, even though Sam's had this, like, weird revelation, was talking to Meg about her family and him, relating about how he wants his own life, not his brother's life, all that, you know, and not what his family wants for him, they're actually on the phone together. Sam and Dean are now. So I thought it was an interesting, like, little, like, okay, first, like. Like a minute ago, he's like, yeah, fuck this.

I'm doing my own thing, not my family thing. And then he's already back talking to his brother. I think it's about.

We also don't know who called who.

No, they don't. They don't show us that, but they do get on the phone together. Um, so. And, uh, this is where they start discussing and about what's happening.

And it's been determined that pretty much it's not something that's being animated. It's some kind of a pagan God figure.

And because the cycle and that they're after a couple and so on and so forth, there's just too many indicators that it wouldn't be a standard. Your good old fashioned animation. It's a.

It's not a ghost.

It's a ghost. Yeah, it's, um. Yeah, so that.

And that the town, like, with the apple pie and everything else, are fattening people up for sacrifice and to bless the sit. The town is kind of the whole idea.

So does that mean, like, towns with good pies are evil? Like, marble falls has a really good pie and people line up forever for that. If you ever, ever go through Texas. Stop. And marble flies.

Marble flies marble falls. And I think it's a blue bonnet.

Yeah. Blue bonnet Cafe has been, like, the best pie in Texas.

They have. Oh, my God, their pie is so good. I had to go get pie now.

Okay. So, anyway, so, yeah, so Dean's gonna go to the college for ask for research, health research help at this point, though. Yeah.

But also, I mean, so this call, like, there is, I think, a lot of things, but it's a damn good feeling call.

They kind of have, like, these unspoken apologies where they kind of accept each other and kind of, like, deal with. They're like, hey, here's what's going on. But also not asking each other for anything. Yeah.

And Dean says, tell Sam that he's proud of him. And I think that's all Sam. That's what Sam. What? Sam needs that approval. Right. As much as.

Because he's got the daddy issues of, like, my dad never approves of me, but my brothers, who have always looked up to you. So to have the big brother be the one who comes in and says, I am proud of you as much as I give you shit for this, like, I couldn't do this.

Like, you were. You were a good man for standing up and saying no. And so, yeah, very feeling talk. I appreciated it. I thought it was a really good phone call.

It was. I was kind of annoyed because that's also. I was like, damn it, what the fuck's gonna happen now? We have to wait for them to get back together.

I know. But also, sometimes in those relationships, which I think is good, you have to get some space. Right?

Like, you can't be up on each other's nuts all the time, and so you have to, like, get away from each other to really kind of figure out what's going on. And I think, you know, fucking Meg, like, be, like, basically telling Sam back all the things that he's feeling.

Yeah.

Is probably also opening his eyes above. They're like, oh, this is what I'm doing. Maybe it's not, like, where I'm supposed to be. Maybe this is. Maybe this isn't right.

Yeah.

And as much as I hate my dad, I have this brother, and I have this brother who needs me. So, anyhow, all right, so we're at the community college.

Yes. These are some impressive ass professors at these community colleges.

I'm just saying I don't want to talk down on myself, because I did teach at a community college, and you were.

You're an amazing professor. But did you have a book that was like, no.

Am I gonna have, like, this badass research materials? The community college? No.

We teach you your basics so you can get those credits for cheap and go on to a fucking real university that we studied at to teach to be able to teach.

We're gonna, like, pull out a book with, like, the original, like, Texas independence or, like, these are the original letters of the guys in the Alamo. Like, I'm just gonna whip these out of my community college campus.

Sure. We just keep these on file in the library at our community college. No, fuck that. That's not how it works. But okay, good. I mean, cool story, but no.

So they've got this super cigarette smoking man is a super impressive professor at. In small town Indiana, apparently. And so Dean goes to talk to him and looking for info specifically on a norse God who lives in an orchard.

And they're looking, and then they see the drawing of what looks like a scarecrow. But that's not precisely what it is in one of the texts, this fancy ass old text. So I'm gonna turn over to Liz because I feel like we're getting a.

Little area we are about to. And so they get to Norse because they're like, the people who settled here were from Scandinavia, and so this is Indiana, right?

Yes.

So that's not. That's not weird. You know, generally, most of the populations from Scandinavia are probably higher up in the US.

So we'll see, like, Minnesota, Wisconsin. They've got. There's so many Scandinavians up there, and that's why they're all freaking blonde and huge.

My family. My mom's half or my mom's norwegian.

According to my ancestry, I have a lot of Swedish in me. And that's also my ancestry DNA, which just says, don't go out in the sun. You will be set on fire because you're white as fuck.

Mine's based on immigration records and family stories. But I've not done ancestry or anything.

No, my immigration records. I know I have the half of me that came from Poland, but the Poland was all precious stuff.

But my part of the family that ended up being from the British Isles and being in Ireland, in Scotland, which means it's not surprising that there is a bunch of Swedes in there because Swedes came over and fucked a bunch of people and then, like, laid their claim there, which is where we're gonna get into it. So that's how we go from Scandinavia to being like, hey, these are the norse gods. And they're like, this is vanir. The vanir.

And this is really hard for me to say after this. Which one? So. But this is. We're going into lore. It's lore time.

Lore.

Okay. Also, so Dean's talking about, like, what happened, you know, you're gonna find the sacred tree, like, what's gonna happen?

And he gets hit with a shotgun. So we're gonna talk about. This is Dean's fever dream. So as he's knocked down, he's learning about this. So the vanir. Vanira, I don't know.

So, in norse mythology, the vanir are a group of gods associated with fertility, wisdom, nature, magic, and the ability to see a future. And not a lot is known about the historical worship of this group of gods.

And some of this is because some of their practices probably offended those who are writing history down. Also, there are some things within the Eddas and the sagas of norse mythology that make it kind of confusing. So.

But I will say in modern times that if you look at Vanir, you can find a viking folk metal van from Denmark whose lead singer is, of course, named Lars. And according to the instagram, they are Denmark's number one viking metal band. And you can join us as we set sail for foreign chores.

So I would highly encourage you to check out the video blood sacrifice on YouTube, and I believe there is a chance in there, and she's playing bagpipes. I don't know what the bagpipes have to do with viking folk rock, but why the fuck not? She's also not listed in their current band members.

So I don't know where this shit came from, but this video was highly entertaining. So go check out Vanir. So, the vanir are one of two groups of gods, the others being the Aesir, or the Aesir, depending on who's talking.

Aesir is more of the old norse pronunciation.

I'm still going to say it wrong, but there is a theory that the vanir were not a separate type of gobs, but rather that was a mistranslation of alliteration and nordic poetry. But also interesting enough. Like, between the two, we do find that they are condemned for their incest practice.

So we're talking about some weird sex stuff they do. And, you know, we're going to talk about some of their major. Their major gods and goddesses.

And again, I'm not going to attempt to pronounce any of this shit correctly, but if you want to watch somebody who has the right accents, that makes them sound damn fun, I highly recommend looking up this. Diana has heard me talk about this guy for days.

So there is a snack of a cowboy old norse mythology scholar named Doctor Jackson Crawford, and he has so many YouTube videos. I am now a patreon follower of him because I have fallen in love with him, because it's a fucking snack. But so you can walk, you can go.

He has a video on how to pronounce norse gods names and he does this in a cowboy hat in front of an epic snow mountain in Wyoming. And he also has the proclivity for pearl snap shirts. So quite a bit of my research for this came from watching his videos because they were full of.

It was an excuse to watch his videos.

Yes, totally excuse to watch his videos. He's fucking hot. But he's also, like, very knowledgeable. He was a.

He used to be professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder and he stepped away to that, like, because when he is, like, YouTube star, like, he has over like a hundred thousand subscribers. But he's awesome. He's just really fucking impressive. Also, I didn't note that a lot of his video was brought to you by Grim Frost.

And you can go to grim Frost if you need her rings for your bike, your viking beard. And if you ever want to get some bronze wolves to, like, put around your viking beard, this is the place to go. Also, they have drinking horns.

So many drinking horns. So, yeah, so grim frost.

All right.

Yeah, go. Go visit their website.

All right.

So the Venera gods are mainly going to be talking about Njord and his two kids, the twins Frey and Freyja. So Nior is the God of wind and of the sea and its riches.

His aid was often invoked in seafaring and in hunting, and he was considered the God of wealth, bestowal, or posterity. So he fathered fair Freyr and Freya, they say, with his sister, which is why people are like, we don't like the Sierra.

You were like, we don't like these gods. They fuck their brothers and their sisters because.

Yeah, also I feel like these ancient gods did a lot of that.

Yeah, well, that's. But it's really interesting. Like, half of the norse gods are like, this is cool. And the other half like, nah, that's not cool. Don't fuck your sister.

So I don't know. So. So we don't actually know who his sister was. And he fought to father them, but. So he's associated with rain, sunshine, harvest and prosperity.

And so then we have his son, Freyr, who is the central God of male fertility. And he's particularly associated with horse cults. And I want you to keep that in mind at the end of the lore segment.

Right?

So Freyr likes horse cults. And also because he's a fertility God, the phallic symbol is also associated with him, his status.

So there are lots of statues I think are his because they have an erectic. So they're like, yes, this is clearly fair. There's a penis, so it must be him.

When he wants to travel around, he travels on his trusted boar, Gurlin Bursty, and on this ship called Skilledbarnird, which can be folded so tiny that it fits into a pouch. And his animals, so that based on that, his animals were the horse and the boar.

But he did share the ladder with his sister Freya, and that sow was one of her by names. And Freyr, his board, that when I talked about Guerlin Bursty, that name transfers to gold bristles and his horse was named bloody hoof.

Oh, damn.

So he rides a pig named Gold bristols and a horse named bloody hoof. So I love him. I love it. All right, so Freya, she is a fairly well known goddess. I actually was listening to a podcast before we even got into this.

It was talking about norse mythology. And the woman who was on that said that apparently Freya is a really popular name for girl babies these days, and she's in England.

This is made to be an english thing. But I think it's just interesting. This is like having a comeback as a name.

So, yeah, it is.

Okay. And sometimes she's just not Freya's sister.

Sometimes she's also his wife, but she also, like, they both marry giants and they fuck other people, but. So she is associated with cats.

So she. So she's polyamorous with her brother.

She's very. She's so poly. This girl is beyond poly. Alright, so she's. This is why. One of the reasons I love her, she's associated with cats.

And when she travels, she drives her two cats in a chariot. So her and her two cats are just driving around in chariot. I like it.

I approve.

Yep. And one of the attic poems, Loki does accuse Freya of, probably, accurately, of having slept with all the gods and elves, including her brother.

But also she's a goddess of fertility, so of course she's gonna fuck. I mean, what else? If you're. I'm like, I'm here to make things fertile. I can't be fertile if I'm not fucking.

So she's also sometimes known as the lady of the hall of the battlefallen in Valhalla. So if you die. I think most people know about norse myth that if you die in battle, then you go to Valhalla, blah, blah, blah, the tables.

Yeah.

All right, so what about the sacrifice? Right? Because that's what this episode is about. So a lot of what we know about where Vernier come from is there was a.

There was a battle, and so there was a battle between the racir and the venir. And so. So when that happens, they end up taking Nior and Freyr as hostages. And then Freya is.

Odin asked Freya to oversee and continue the blood sacrifices. So we have that part. So that's coming in. So she preserved peace among the gods and maintained the cycles of fertility that kept her world in motion.

So part of that has to come from sacrifice. And she was praised and celebrated so much that her personal name was applied to all ladies of good social standards.

So we have a lot of norse women named Freya, but she also has connections to magic and divination. And in the saga of the Inglings, they say that she brought sather magic to the ISIR.

The seyther magic is all about knowing people's fates, causing death, bad luck, and, like, you could also, like, take away health from other people. And it's all often been associated with dark magic and black magic, but they think that's because only women were supposed to practice it.

So men who practiced it were considered unmanly. And in norse culture, that was a no no. Like you, you have to be manly as fuck. So if you're doing women shit, like, it's gonna be bad, but.

So the women who practice this magic that she brought were known as the vulva. Not related to my vaginal vulva, but it looks more like the car Volvo with, like, an a.

But really, also vulva is really related to the term for staff.

So there's always descriptions, all these badass, like, seers who have, like, these staffs that they're carrying around, and they're a very powerful female shaman. The male counterpart was known as the Vitki, which is one of the words, we think, where witch came from.

So when these women would, like, do this stuff, they would fall into a trance, while choirs of other women would invoke her guardian spirit to come to her. Aidan. And in this inspired states, the spirits would inform her about all the things that she wanted to ask.

So what, you know, what's the weather going to be? Because, you know, you didn't have, you know, weather calm.

Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like, hey, like, is the weather gonna be good? What? Like, what things are gonna happen? What's gonna. Is there gonna be happiness?

Whether it be the misfortune for men, they also were often used to predict battles. So there's a story that Caesar has of, there is a battle where this germanic tribe just turned away because they were like, no.

Our bitches said, no, don't go. This is an embarrassing.

This is gonna go bad for us, Rob.

This is bad for us.

So while, like, women are, you know, being unmanly is a terrible thing, the women are also being respected and listened to and which I think is an interesting dichotomy. Right? So we have this. You have to be super manly, but this woman's hearing stuff, and so you're going to do what she says.

So while she's in the state, you know, her soul is traveling to other worlds, and she's fetching knowledge.

And so these vova would travel around the countryside, usually by wagons, and there's lots of stories about, like, different things where people are running around from wagons. They were notorious for sexual deviance and also bringing bad luck.

So they tell you good things, but they're going to fuck a lot, and if you fuck them, you may have some bad luck.

In the Eric the red saga, the vulva is portrayed as wearing the skins of many living creatures and has to eat the hearts of everything living available. So I think that's one of the things that kind of goes back to the sacrifice.

She's eating, like, pretty much it was like, okay, what is living in here? I got to eat their hearts. And they also were wearing hoods and gloves that were lined with cat skin, which goes back to Freya and her cat.

So kind of going into that, it's hard for us to know about what was really going on in norse culture just because of how things are written. So a lot of things that were being written were done from, like, early stuff was done from the perspective of the Romans, who were walking around.

So the roman writer Tacitus wrote about the germanic tribes. And so I like that he's been guilty of interpretation, which is basically means the roman interpretation of shit.

So we're going to look at everything from our perspective, right?

And he talks about, you know, there was this wagon where these people were worshipping a statue in it, and she was being carried around by a wagon with a. With a priest, and then she was washed by the slaves, and then after.

After she did her thing and told her, told the fortune, then she returned her island, and the slaves would clean her up, and then they were drowned in the lake. So we get to the sacrifice there.

So we have, like, okay, we're gonna catch her around in a wagon, and then we're gonna drown you because she's got to be virtuous. So for her to be virtuous, you gotta be dead.

And this talks about this guy Gurnar, who had the fortune of being invited on a tour of the countryside by Freyr's priestess wife. And while it was stuck in a snowstorm, it says that the idol Freyr came to life and fought with gunar, who pledged the christian God. He.

Oh, sorry, this was not an edit, this was a christianship. So while he suck in a snowstorm, he pledged to the christian God that he would turn this to Christianity if he could vanquish the idol.

So he had his wish. He overcame the statue, Freyr. And so, like, they have this, like him, the statue had this epic battle and then, like.

But basically he replaced him and spent the rest of the tour posing as Freyr, riding around the countryside and impregnating all the priestesses. Okay.

Oh, okay then.

So sacrifice, you'll hear a lot of times in norse mythology, the term bloat reminds me of go bloat. And if you look at that blo t, that looks like blood, but it really means blessing.

It's nothing necessarily mean we have to kill something to make a sacrifice. We just have to be like something you want to give up. So, of course, now I'm going to talk about dicks, because what do we love? We love dick magic.

That is what we hear about. We're all about the dick magic.

So just like, there are no norse temples that have been preserved in their entirety, but there is a place in Lunda, Sweden, where there is a worship site, and in there there are remnants of fires with burnt animal bones and also figurines that look like they have been hanged. Their feet were pointed down and their necks looked like they were like kind of strangled and squeezed.

And according to doctor Crawford, they looked like they're ithophallic. And he was like, if you don't know what that means, I'm not going to tell you. Look it up. And I did. And it means erect penis. So you can.

Are you even more excited that that's how he described Orlando? Penis?

That's the term. Like, I wanted to be like, I am feeling very ethophallic.

So if we want to, you can go the Sherman's museum does have pics of these figures, and, yeah, they all have erect penises. They're actually not that impressive of penises. They're really kind of tiny. So.

Which does make me wonder, like, if you're gonna make a statue of something and you're like, I want your dick to be out. Like, give the man, like, a little bit. Give a little extra. Like, it doesn't need to be, like, little.

Like, you know, like, people are be looking at this for thousands of years.

You never know what societal standards were at different times. People were.

No, I'm pretty sure women always appreciated girth and length. Like, that's not. So there also.

There was 11th century story from another christian dude who's a cleric, Adam or Bremen, of a temple in Uppsala, Sweden. And he said there was a temple there with a roof of gold, and there were three statues of Thor, Odin, and Freyr.

And they're assuming it was Freyr because he described it as having a very large phallus. So. All right, more on dicks. So these scods were apparently sacrificed for war and marriage.

And near, like, where they were at, there was a well, and men were tossed into the well to help predict the future. So if the guy sunk, then the gods would do what you want.

I mean, which seems counterintuitive to me, because I would think, like, the guy floated, they were like, cool, the gods are on my side. But, no, if you die, the gods are going to do what we want to do.

You have to use them. That's why.

And nearby to that, there was also a place where nine members of nine different species, that's men, dogs, horses, etcetera, were sacrificed for a festival that happened for nine days and happens every nine years. And according to them, the sacrifice was done by being hanged. So apparently, most of the sacrifice during this time was by hanging.

So that was something that was important.

Interesting. I don't think I recall hearing many sacrifices being done by hanging.

Yeah. And so most of them that are in Wickham.

More of a punishment than a sacrifice.

Yeah. And this is one of the things that I was thinking when we were looking at this. I was looking at doing something on Wickermanda, which is the.

If you ever see the movie. But there is the whole pagan thing where they. They said that druids built a giant, basically wooden structure that was stuffed with.

With people and animals and shit and set on fire as a sacrifice. But I decided to stick more of the story and go with veneer. But, you know, hey, so they hung people.

There's also an icelandic saga about a guy who moved from Norway to Iceland.

He built a temple with the pillar in the middle, and there was a bowl on top of that, and then whatever was sacrificed would have its blood in the bowl, and then there was a stick, and the stick would be used to throw blood on the wall and on the people. And there is no archaeological, like, things that back this up. They do. We do have a lot of things to back up.

There were sacrifices of horses, which, if you've never taken the time to look up icelandic horses, you would be very upset. And I went to Iceland specifically to look for these fucking horses because they are sassy as fuck, and they're everywhere.

I think there's more horses. There are people. They all have these glorious manes. They're just like epic beauty. Things are flowing in the wind, and, of course they do.

They have major attitude, because when I finally got to hang out with the fucking icelandic horses, they bit me. So I was like, here, eat this apple, you gorgeous horse. And it was like, I would like this apple.

I would also like to bite your hand because I'm a dick. So maybe I'm not that mad those horses were sacrificed.

But we also know, just beyond the archaeological thing, that based on the laws that were made to try and stop pagan people from being pagan to convert to Christianity, there were a lot of laws that outlawed the east eating of horse meat, because they're like, oh, if we outlaw this, then they. You know, they won't be doing the sacrifice. There were exceptions that were made for some special days. They could eat that.

And if you do go to Iceland or other parts of the world, I think we've made. Talked about this before, but, yeah, people eat horse meat still. When I was in Iceland, it was.

I don't want to, but whatever.

Yeah, I.

It's very common in other parts of the world. Absolutely.

It is very common. It does fall under my. I am not a budgetary anymore. I just don't eat things that are cute.

So horses fall under the things that are cute, and so I don't eat them. All right, so more dicks.

All right, so closer to 100 stone phalluses have been found in Norway, and they are symbolic representations of the penis, representing male potency and fertility, which is what the vitriol gods are known for.

It is believed that animal and human sacrifices are made to a symbolic phalluse that were thought to ensure a new crop among people, animals, and nature. So the guys in this episode, like, you're good. Like, you're just getting eaten. They're not chopping off your dick, so you're good.

So we're going to end the lore with a quick story about the scandinavian story of Warsa pater. I have no idea that I'm saying that right. It's a short story, but we can't talk about sacrifices and dicks without talking about this.

All right, so there was a farm with an old man and a wife and their daughter and two slaves, and their horse died, and they skinned and ate everything but its penis. And then the son, being a boy, decided he wanted to tease his sister and everyone else up with a stick and like, ah, look, I have a horse dick.

So then they decided to clean it up, and they kept it wrapped in a cloth and with herbs to preserve it. And then every night at dinner, the wife would take the dick out and pass it around, and everybody would write a poem about it. So one night, the.

The king, king Olaf, is nearby, and he needs somewhere to spend the night. So he goes to the farmer's house in disguise to see, like, hey, I'm going to stay here. We're going to disguise myself as a peasant.

So the farmer invites him in and offers him dinner, but just when they're about to eat, the wife walks in. But of course, she has Volcie, which is the penis, with her, and she wants everybody to do her ceremony.

So she recites a verse and passes it to her husband. And he's very embarrassed in front of his guests, but he does a verse, and then the son gets it, and he says, may your bridesmaids bring you a cock.

They will make the pret wet tonight.

And then the sister, she gets her verses, show off that she hates us, and she says, I swear by gaff and the other gods, and against my will do I touch this long red nose.

And then it gets to the slave woman, and she starts stroking it and says, surely I would not overcome the temptation of thrusting you into myself if we were lying alone pleasuring one another. So when it gets to the king Olaf's turn, he reveals himself, and then he just starts preaching about Christianity. And.

But the old woman was like, I don't think you're the king. And the husband was like, well, maybe you are the king, and I want to know about Christianity.

And so finally, they all agree to be baptized, and they remain Christian ever since. So that's the story of King Olaf and the dick. And we're going to stop floor there. You got nothing.

I got nothing. Yeah. I can't.

We did. We did not expect the veneer mythology to go to horse dick, did we?

There's a lot of horse dick in the story and some very special fantasies about horse dick and a amputated horse dick, too, especially that I'm still processing here. But, um, it's a very well known.

And popular story that, I mean, even if I'm assuming this is not true, and. But also, like, what I'm really trying to figure out is this was really.

The story was made to talk about why you should convert to Christianity and to why, like, somebody made up the story about the horse stick.

I feel like there's a lot of stories that you could, like, takeaways from this that you could have is. I don't know, like, don't have weird ceremonies with horse sticks. I mean, that's a real simple one.

You don't have to make deep religious decisions about.

But I also like how the slave woman was like, I'm gonna fuck the horse stick.

She's like, I'm into it. Let's do it. Like, she's right.

I'm gonna make. I'm making a dildo out of the horse stick.

And, yeah, y'all just pass this dick around. Can I go use it in the bedroom real fast? Like, she's, like, ready.

But I also like how there's, like, a younger sister who's like, I'm so over your shit. Put the dick away. Just put the. We're weird. Put. Put the dick up. I want to eat my dinner.

Mom, do you have to bring the dick every time? Embarrassing, mom. Oh, isn't that what was happening to this teenager?

It's just like, oh, my God, like, you think your mom is embarrassing? My mom has this horse stick, and she.

I'm gonna go eat in my room. Ugh.

Really? And, like, the story is, like, this woman is, like, literally praying.

And I guess it's supposed to be idolatry worship, but it's like, that's the idol that you choose. You choose, like, the horse penis.

It's a very interesting choice. Yeah.

So norse mythology. Yay. And I'm sure we have many opportunities within this 15 years of to talk about other things, but highly recommend.

Go check out Doctor Jackson Crawford. If you're a tech, he's very interesting.

Or if you're a dude who's into.

Norse, it really like his stuff. His stuff is fantastic. He like, he's so fucking knowledgeable. I learned so much watching all his things. I was not just drooling about.

He does have a lovely backdrop in his, like.

Yeah, he films in Colorado and Wyoming, all sorts of great things. Although he does have a tendency to say wha. What he's like talking about w eight.

So the where and the whis and the win, which drives me fucking insane. Stop doing that. Doctor Crawford, please stop.

All right, there we go.

Laura's over. We can get back to you. I think last we left this, Dean was getting hit in the face. The shotgun.

Yeah, he pretty much got hit in the face with his shotgun. And so. Yeah, and obviously the professor was in on that.

So we find the next scene is basically the couple and people, the people from the town that they've shown so far.

Scotty and this couple, the aunt, uncle and all that are standing with their umbrellas very close to the rain, plotting about how important it is to protect the town. And they, you know, one cup, the one couple that runs like little like shop at or whatever. I don't know what else to call it there.

That gave the pie to the first couple we saw are basically. They don't really sound like they want to participate anymore. They're like, this is kind of bullshit. We don't really like this anymore.

But they get kind of bullied into it.

We are uncomfortable. Like, killing strangers was fine, but now.

Like, now it's uncomfortable because apparently the decision is that Dean and Emily, the teenager, the, well, teenage chick that lives with her aunt and uncle are going to be the fucking sacrifices for the common good.

Yeah. Also, like, I really hate. I hate that fucking phrase.

Like fucking commies. Um, gyrus.

Like, they're pink O's. And I'm just like, in general, like the sacrifice of one for the good of many always is going to give me the heaps. It will always.

And I know it's a very giant trolley car problem, but I. But it's a heebie jeebie question and I don't like it.

So. So anyway, so we show, we, we cut back to, to Sam and he's been trying to call Dean who isn't answering his phone. So he's like, fuck this.

My brother's in trouble. I got to go after him and bails on going to California. It's just a brief scene. And Meg tries to kind of steer him to go to California still.

But he's like, nah, I know marbles.

She's also not very convincing. She's just very whiny. Like what? But, Sam, what about a problem?

Yeah, she like, goes for me, like kind of flirty to kind of like whiny there. But anyway, so, so now we've got Emily and Dean locked in, like, the fucking cellar under this house.

She had no idea that this shit was going on in this town. She knew that the town was very blessed. Even though shit's going bad in other towns around us, we're just lucky.

And I live with my aunt and uncle and they just shoved me in a fucking cellar. You. So. That's lovely. Um, anyway, so he starts asking her questions about, like, what she knows about the town and is there a special tree?

Because that's what's going to be tied to the, the veneer, which is the scarecrow. So, um, we would animate it by the God, basically. Um, so she knows there's a thing called the first tree.

Um, and, uh, so they're hoping to find the first tree so they can burn that motherfucker down when they're, when they basically get dragged out to the woods by the townspeople that have been involved.

The couple, scotty from the aunt, uncle, scottie from the restaurant, the sheriff, and get tied up and in the orchard because they're just like, fuck it. We're not even going to try to lead you in here. You know what the fuck's going on. We're going to tie your asses up and feed you to the scarecrow.

Because why not? So dean's like, you know, asking the sheriff how much blood's on your hands.

And they're all just kind of like, like saying it doesn't, doesn't matter kind of an attitude. And anyways, so then it turns to night and they're just waiting. They were just waiting on the scarecrow to show up.

And so, and then, but Sam shows up, which is awesome, but the scarecrow is already off of his stupid pole or whatever the fuck it is. So.

Yeah, and my note about that, it was just like, Dean was so proud that Sam stole a car.

He was so proud of him. They say, how'd you get your stupid, okay, yeah, that seems like a dean thing to be proud of.

So, um, I thought it was interesting that they're like, oh, there's, that there's supposed to be a scarecrow, that giant thing.

But no, so they're going to try to find the sacred tree and they get cornered by all the townspeople because they knew something was going to happen and ruin their fucking sacrifice again. So they were all hanging around, and while they're talking shit about it being a sacrifice, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Well, scarecrow sneaks up and he gets a couple all fucking right. It's just not Dean and Emily. It's the aunt and uncle.

Yeah. And my note is, like, I'm not sad that uncle got killed. However, I am very upset by the drag, by the Achilles heel. Like, I was like, oh.

Ow.

Like, that's. Oh, that's painful.

Unnecessarily painful. Yep. But, yeah. So anyways, it turns to daylight pretty fast, and they find this fucking tree with, like, carvings in it.

So they dump a bunch of gas on it and set it on fire like you do, vernic.

Emily is the one who.

She wants to light it. She's like, nah, I'm a light this bitch. And she's ready to do it. So she lights the tree on fire. Like, gets a.

Gets a stick burning real good and lights the tree on fire. Um, it cuts to the next thing is her just getting on a bus to Boston. She's out. She's like, fuck this town.

And everybody knows the town's gonna go to shit anyways. I said all their neighboring towns have already gone to shit, so. Yep, there you go.

And, yeah, so we get, basically the next important part of Sam and Dean's relationship is that Sam is going to stay with Dean on their mission. And, you know, he basically acknowledges that, you know, mom and J. Mom and Jess are gone. Dad is. Who knows where he is.

And so they really need to stick together is kind of the attitude, which is sweet. Yeah.

So sweet that Dean says, hold me, Sam. That was beautiful.

Yeah. Because he has to say something. He has to say something like that. Yeah. So. But the episode's not done yet.

We're not done. Oh, no. Where do we go to now? We're gonna go to Meg. And she's in another creepy van.

This bitch loves her creepy vans. And I could not tell what the mural on the side of his van was. It was very. Oh, I waited on the side of it and I couldn't tell what it is.

And then I forgot to rewind and pause. Excess piss.

I will. I will do some. I will go back and I will try and find out what that.

We need that image. We'll instagram the creepy van.

Yep. And this guy, who is gross is also really think he's getting lucky.

And what she's like, if you're creepy guy in a van and there is a semi hot chick in there with you and she's like, yeah, let's pull over. Like, as long as she's, like, saying, here's a. Give me $1,000 before we pull over. Like, no. Like, that. She does not. She does not want you.

Nobody wants you. Could be.

No. So. And then apparently the song that was playing here, which is another funny. Somebody was being clever.

I feel like as the creepy van is pulling over that she told to pull over, apparently it's a song called push ins by autumn's descent, so. Push ins. So someone's being naughty with their jokes already. Anyway, so.

And she pulls a silver bowl out of her bag, says she needs to make a fucking call. Okay. And cuts his mother fucking neck. So, slits the dude's throat, starts collecting the blood in this bowl, and I have in caps.

I knew she was the shady one. Remember we were talking about these shady fans, and she was talking shady people and all shady vans, and.

I'm sorry. I knew she was the shady one. So this is why I'm laughing.

So one of Diana's dogs is going through some trauma, and Diana is required to collect the pee in, like, a tray. So. And she's having difficulties collecting the pee in the tray. So now I'm just.

Getting a dog urine sample is not easy. I'm just saying.

But also, like, she was able to get this throat blood to, like, go very easily into a bowl. But I'm also just picturing her running around, trying to get, like, trying to capture the guy's blood.

Like, Diana is trying to capture the dog's pee. But anyways, okay, so we're on a serious note. All right, Megan.

So this shady, shady bitch, Meg, has collected this blood quite successfully from this dude's throat that she just cut and is starts stirring the blood with her finger, and it gets all spiky, and she starts asking it questions like, why she had to let Sam go and. And whatnot. And you don't really hear an answer, but she's just like, okay, kind of a deal.

Well, she also says, yes, father. Which is an interesting thing that she says, but, yeah, so she stuck her finger in a biohazard and stirred it around. And that's. Yeah, y'all.

Y'all are gross. Like, you're just shoving your fingers in blood. Like, that's just nasty. Yeah, and put some gloves on.

Like, I'm sure you got some nitro gloves, like, around somewhere. Just put that on before you shove your finger. And, like, that guy did not look clean.

I don't know what was in his blood, but I would not want you putting my finger in it. And also, there is that kind of thought of, like, supernatural. Hermione has not researched this.

It's like, how long would it take somebody's neck blood developable?

Well, she didn't even need a whole blood full. That would seem kind of, like, a lot of, like, mess for very limited need.

Like, oh, she needed, like, they take more blood than that when you donate blood. Like, what the fuck? She, like, needed, like, this little, like, tiny bit in this bottom of the silver dish. Like, I feel like she.

Well, did he stop bleeding? Like, that's a carotid artery that she just cuts.

I'm assuming, like, he gonna be dead.

There's a more blood that's, like, pouring, like, everywhere next to her while she's.

Saying she was being wasteful.

Yeah. Well, what else was she supposed to do with that blood? What other crafting purposes?

That's not my problem. She's the one using blood. She needs to find be more useful in or more thoughtful in her use of. Use of blood, apparently.

Or maybe not kill people when she uses their blood. I don't know. That's not my problem. I'm just saying that it was wasteful.

Well, so you're saying, like, she could just have, like, a hyper derrick needle and just be pulling out shit and, like, pouring. We will discuss Diana. Sorry. My theories about things that we people do in supernatural shows that are unhygienic.

Like, you know, I'm gonna share a knife and we're all gonna cut her wrists together or hands together and pull blood out. I'm like, yeah, you could honestly just, like, get a phlebotomist in there and have her just come through and pull this out.

And it's not very ceremonial. I'm just saying, though, she probably could have cut, like, his arm and drained some blood from him and, like, knocked him out. You know what I mean?

Maybe she just was tired of fucking creepy guy.

Like, maybe she. Maybe she's just an evil bitch and wants to kill people, but also, like.

Creepy dude and van. Yeah, just.

Just because you drive a van and look skeezy doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad guy.

Just because you drive a van, look skeezy, and pick up teenage girls in the sun of the road, it's no reason to say that you're a terrible person. You're probably. Nobody is going to miss you to call our demon lord.

Fair enough. All right. All right. Well, yeah, so it was a really.

This was, as you alluded to at the beginning, this episode really was, I think, pretty pivotal in Sam and Dean's relationship. And I think we really needed to get here or it was going to get annoying. Not wrong. I know that.

But I think that it was really important for them to have this moment where they did separate and really analyze kind of how they felt about each other and their missions and then have the opportunity to choose to get back together instead of feeling forced. Does that make sense? Yeah. So. And that was the path they chose, was the path together after assessing all the options.

Yep. Also fucking hate scarecrows. Hey, leather face. Scarecrows. I don't like particularly any scarecrows.

And so I guess maybe it was a raven in a former life. And I just, like, I see them. They creep me out. But just in general, effigies in the middle of a field.

Not a good thing.

Not a fan. No. No. Anything else you want to say about this episode?

No.

What are your thoughts on Meg? This is what I want to know.

Like, I think that bitch seems shady as shit. I don't trust her.

Do you think she's gonna be around more? Like, what are.

Oh, obviously she's coming back. They wouldn't have put her at the end of the episode like that if she was not gonna be back.

And obviously she's being told to be there by something that some. Her dad or whatever, but it has some future plans for the boys. It's not now or whatever. I don't know, I just. I think there's some tie in there.

And she was not accidentally on the side of the road when Sam showed up, obviously.

Well, no shit.

Obviously.

I'm intrigued about having another ongoing character because you have to keep in mind, realistically, for me now at episode eleven, there's only been two consistent characters the entire show, and that's Sam.

Well, three John John, but he's like, legit.

Been in like 30 seconds of three episodes.

True.

So it barely counts. Other than them talking about him all the time. I mean, and then they'd be on the same level almost as Jess, you know what I mean?

Where they had, like, one conversation and then she dead. And we just talk about her being dead all the time.

So I think, you know, I think it could be interesting to have another ongoing character, but I don't. I don't necessarily, like, dislike the character. I just know she's shady as shit. I don't trust her.

Yeah, no, she's shady as fuck. But what about. So what are your thoughts on just the choice of this show? Going for a monster of the week.

Like, we're going to keep pursuing pagan gods that are eating people in a field as opposed to pursuing the other storyline of, we now know demons killed mom and Jess.

Well, I mean, if you want to look at a sales perspective, it's much easier to have a show that could be standalone episodes week to week. But that's part of the reason, I'm sure, which is the monster of the week concept. But I think I, I think that they. I don't know.

I mean, like, obviously it was a story choice by the writers to do that where they want to leave dad on that mission and let the boys. The boys, obviously, the brothers. I mean, whatever. The brothers.

The brothers do what they need to do and go take care of the stuff their dad used to because I guess that's kind of the concept I get is like, dad's now focused on this mission. They're going to continue the other family mission of like, fucking saving people. That's what I'm reading it as.

Divide the, dividing up the responsibilities where like, a, we all want to find out what happened to mom and of course, Jess then. But if we're all focused on that, then this other stuff falls to the wayside. So we have to choose who's doing what.

Dad's already down this rabbit hole. He doesn't want us involved in it. He feels confident in it and really feels strongly about our safety in him going off on this on his own.

So we'll continue the other things which are also important, like, I don't know, like making sure fucking, you know, norse pagan gods don't eat people's faces in the middle of an orchard.

Yeah. And take their ugly tattoos and, which is weird. That was a very weird choice, but cool. Yeah. So I think that could wrap it up for this week's episode.

Unless you have anything else.

No, no, I think that was a good, I think the show did a good job wrapping itself up in a lot of ways. I think that helped, I guess, as far as the relationship.

So we're halfway through season one. Good things are going to come out of this. All right, well, until next time, cheers, jerk.

Cheers, bitch.

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