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Episode 5021st October 2025 • RESILIENT A.F. with Blair and Alana • Blair Kaplan Venables
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Big changes happened in the Kaplan sisters lives and they dive deep into what has been going on. This episode explores life changes and medical trauma and how both sisters are navigating it all.

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About the Hosts: 

Blair Kaplan Venables is a British Columbia-based grief and resilience expert and coach, motivational speaker and the Founder of The Global Resilience Project. Her expertise has been featured on media platforms like Forbes, TEDx, CBC Radio, Entrepreneur, and Thrive Global. She is named the Top Grief and Resilience Expert of the Year 2024 by IAOTP. USA Today listed Blair as one of the top 10 conscious female leaders to watch and she empowers others to be resilient from stages around the world. 'MyStory,’ which is a television show available on Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+ and Google Play, showcases Blair's life story. She is the host of the Radical Resilience podcast and specializes in helping people strengthen their resilience muscle using scientifically proven methods and guides grieving high performers with her Navigating Grief Framework. The Global Resilience Project’s award-winning book series are international bestsellers, and her fourth book, RESILIENT A.F.: Stories of Resilience Vol 2, will be published in January 2025. In her free time, you can find Blair writing, in nature, travelling the world and helping people to strengthen their resilience muscles. 

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Alana Kaplan is a compassionate mental health professional based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She works in the mental health field, and is a co-host of the Resilient A.F.  podcast. Fueled by advocacy, Alana is known for standing up and speaking out for others. Passionate about de-stigmatizing and normalizing mental health, Alana brings her experience to The Global Resilience Project’s team, navigating the role one’s mental health plays in telling their story.

Engaging in self-care and growth keeps her going, and her love for reading, travel, and personal relationships helps foster that. When she’s not working, Alana can often be found on walks, working on a crossword puzzle, or playing with any animal she sees.

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I travel a lot and like, it's at a point where, you know, like, there's

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only so much I can do as a caregiver, but it's a lot. And I,

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I really been thinking about like, who takes care of that

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caregiver. And like in this situation, like when the heart

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attack happened, like mom was just there for me, like, you know, chatting

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with her and being, you know, and so like my mom and dad are, mom

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and dad are dead. And like, yeah, you're here for me. It's just not the

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same. You're not a parent. You're kind of like the equal. Yeah. And

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like that makes sense. I don't want to lean on like Val's going through it

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too, my mother in law. So it's, it's

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definitely interesting this time because it's like when I, you know, I want to go

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call mom and then like dad would be the default to also call because he

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did have good advice for me and he did support me in the best way

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he could and. But they're both dead and it's like I've had

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friends reach out, like, you know, you're the caregiver, you need someone to take care

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of you. I'm like, what do I even need? Welcome back to another

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episode of Resilient AF with Blair and Alana. Featuring Alana.

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Actually, Alana, I am here live in the

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flesh. Live in Winnipeg. In the flesh.

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Live and fleshy. Fleshy as flesh.

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Oh my gosh, what is going on in your world? So Alana and

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I, we spent a lot of time together. In September, we were

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together in LA for the Emmy's Gifting lounge. And then I came to

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Winnipeg for a full year, full week, which is kind of unheard of. So we

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spent a lot of time together. Like almost half of September. It was so

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nice. And you got to experience Lenny in his prime.

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So Lenny, to not be confused, it's not our dead dad, which we did go

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see. We also split and saw our dead dad. But, but

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Lenny is Alana's British short hair cat who is like super

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lovey dovey and super cute. Yeah, he was

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just all over me. He kind of smells like belly button right now, which is.

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Ew. I know, I know. Better than

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sneeze. I don't know,

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it's. It's not great. And I don't know why he's

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smelling like that, but he's been all up in my business today, which is time.

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For maybe a bath. Yeah, I don't know how to do

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that. Don't think. Don't worry. Tick Tock does Tick Tock can tell you how to

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bathe cats. And I think

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you could also document it. Blair

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wants me to give Lenny a bath so she can benefit

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from seeing Lenny have a bath. Yeah. So what's going on in

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your world, Alana? Well, you were here in September, which

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was great. I recently

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presented at a conference, and that was my.

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My first. First time ever presenting. Good job

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story. Teddy just came in with a toy, a ball, but it's on

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a stick. Oh. So he's, like, walking. Like, walking around.

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Yeah, he's walking around, but, like, the stick is getting caught on everything.

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Like my mirror and my plants. Classic.

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Yeah. So I had my first presentation ever, and I was just going over some

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of the feedback, and it was pretty good. What'd you

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talk about? It's a great question. I talked about

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approaches in working with families who are

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grieving or going through loss. And,

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yeah, it was my very first time. I. So I ended up

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taking a calm AF strip.

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So Comm AF strips are from Aegis

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Naturals, and they really help with

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basically calming you down. And so we had met these people,

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Bunny and Vaughn, in, like, March, and then they

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were telling us about these strips, and then they brought them, and so I've

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dabbled in them. And they brought them to la, Alana. They brought them to

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la. Yes, they did. And then they gave us some. And

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so I was so excited. I was like, great, I have this presentation. I'm

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gonna take it. And I took it and was, like, so calm during

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the presentation that one of the comments. Like, I had some comments being like, oh,

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she was funny, and. No, no, no, no. Then there was one comment that said,

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no energy. And I was like, well, I guess the calm

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AF strip really worked because I felt great.

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No energy? No, it just. You are talking about, like, death.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm not, like, happy.

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Whatever. It. It's good to get feedback because it helps for future presentations.

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I just thought it was funny because. Yeah,

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maybe only half a com strip next time. Anyway, so I did that

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presentation and it was. I'm at the end of

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a contract in this job that I was in which I love so

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much. And maybe one day I will go back in this capacity, but

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for now, I will stay on the program in a casual role.

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I'm just doing different types of

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social work tasks. And

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I am also starting to a new

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job this week, which is exciting,

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working with kids and families and

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anxiety. Everyone needs a calm AF Strip. Maybe I should just bring Calm

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AF strips for everyone. You'll be able to. Seriously, if you, if

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you want to feel Calm af, you need to look it up.

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Aegis Naturals. It's. I. My friend

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bought a pack when I was telling her about it because she tried it out

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and she tried it out. Then we ended up having a really stressful work situation

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and she, she like didn't get

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activated at all. And then after I was like, I think the strip might be

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working. She's like, oh, my God, it is.

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Magic. Yeah. So, yeah, that's, that's the update in

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my life. So I'm gonna be doing a

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smorgasbord. Of jobs, but

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keeps it interesting. Yeah, keeps it interesting. I'm happy I get to stay within the

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palliative realm. I'm happy I get to work with anxiety. I really

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like working with anxiety. So, yeah. How about you? I know

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your update's going to be much different than mine. Oh my gosh,

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where do I begin? Well.

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Things have been going good with the grief and resilience expert training course.

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We're going to be running it again in January and we're going to do it

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for three weeks, twice a week. So that's really exciting. Yeah.

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And yeah, just working on the next

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two books and my grief coaching and

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some marketing clients and I was

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just getting ready to, you know, go on a

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yoga retreat. So by the time you listen to this, I'm going to be offline.

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I have my project manager managing my inbox.

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Remind me, when do you go? A Monday.

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So. Oh, so I have some like

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my, I'm not even managing my box. My out of office is going to be

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off. I am going to pre schedule some social media posts

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and I will be checking in with my husband and only once with

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Alana during this week because I

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decided like I do a lot of travel for work in the grief space

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and with the global resilience project that I wanted to do something that was just

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for me without work being tied to it. So for months, months I've been had

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this planned and me and a friend are going. It's on Bowen island. It's from

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Monday the 13th till the 17th. So it's four nights

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and it's yoga and wilderness and like there's some

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ceremony and I'm going to bring my laptop in case I'm inspired to write and

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work on my book. I know that's not, that's work but for me it's creative

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outlet and you know, I'm just excited to Shake up my

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routine because I'm about to go into a very, very hectic season. But my

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hectic season started a little early. So on

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October 2nd, uh, it, it was the sixth

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anniversary of Shane's heart attack. Shane had a

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heart attack and could ripple bypass surgery. And

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so last Thursday, or like on October 2nd, I was

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sitting in my office and Shane came in and his like, leg kind of gave

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out. And he's like, well, that's weird. My leg's like, not really working. I'm like,

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that is weird. And we just kind of like ignored it. And then like, it

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didn't get any better. And he was lying down because he felt weird. And I

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was looking up symptoms and I'm like, I, I think you might be having a

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stroke. And he's like, no, there's no way. But we have

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a friend who's a doctor, a neighbor, and message the doctor.

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And classic Shane. The doctor came over and

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like, did some tests and was like, you should go to the emergency. So

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October 2nd at 10pm I was already in bed sleeping. I

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woke up and took him to emergency. By 1:30. I left because

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I, I needed to go to sleep because I had some really big speaking

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engagements the next day that could not be rescheduled.

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Well, they probably could have, but no. And he

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had some tests done, a brain scan, and there was nothing that showed on the

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brain scan. But with his symptoms, they

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determined it was a minor or like a

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suspected minor stroke. So on

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the sixth anniversary of Shane's heart attack, he had a minor stroke.

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And then navigating the medical system here has been crazy. So I went home and

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slept for a few hours, woke up and then got

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ready for my day just in case I had to go from the hospital to

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my, my speaking. And the hospital discharged him

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at like 8am he never was fully admitted. He was given a

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prescription for an anti, what's it called, coagulant

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medication. So he didn't have any more clots. I think it's like a blood

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thinner. Yeah. And yeah, we were told that

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we'd hear from like the minor stroke clinic, the TIA clinic, about

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an appointment to get assessed. So this is

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Thursday. We wait. We don't hear over the weekend.

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Obviously, Like, I knew this, but there was nowhere that indicated this that they're not

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open on weekends. I called first thing on Monday morning and

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the nurse said that they just got into work and that she would look into

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his case and get back to me. And she got back to us saying there

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was no neurologist available. There's no neurologists in

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Kamloops, where I live, for two weeks. So our referral was sent to

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Kelowna, which is two and a half hours away, and that they would be in

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touch. And a couple hours later they reached out with an appointment. So

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the appointment is on Thursday. So by the time you're listening to this, we would

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have had the appointment. But you're not going to have the full update until the

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next time we record this podcast. But the biggest thing is making sure

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he doesn't have a major stroke, if this was a stroke, because

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a minor stroke usually is indication that a bigger stroke is coming.

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So it's been really hectic, like, but what's been really interesting

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is remembering, like, what happened in my body, in my mind,

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when the heart attack happened and then like, when the miscarriage happened and

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all that, because I'm in a different head space and I

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have been implementing so many tools for my nervous system.

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This was a completely different experience for me.

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Like, I remember sitting in the hospital, like, I kind of felt like I was

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going to cry, but not really. And I was like, oh, like, interesting. And

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then the next morning, like, I just kind of did what I had to do.

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Went to Starbucks. I went to Starbucks like three times on Friday.

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That's how you coped? Well, I needed to stay awake because I had to

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speak twice. One until, you know, like one till later.

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Yeah, one past my bedtime and. But yeah,

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like, I. Friday was. Got Shane home, had to go get his

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prescription. And Stephanie Sarazin, who is one of our

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grief, our experts in ambiguous grief in my course and, and I'm, you know, going

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to be featured in one of our books. She called me. Well, we were supposed

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to have a call and I don't know, I was busy. Like, I. I sat

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in my car and all of a sudden had my, My menti be. Like, I

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had a full cry and like, I was

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starting to. And then I realized I was late for the call, so I called

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her and then I. She held space and it was really great and she got

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to participate in my mentb. But other than that,

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that you call it a mentb. Like, I don't. I wouldn't even. Well,

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I can't explain. I don't. It's. This is not the place to talk. Like, I.

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I spiraled. Oh, okay. Maybe it was a menti. No, no, it was.

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I know, I know. When my Menti bees are meant to be's and when I'm

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crying because I'm sad, like, there's yeah. And she

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held space, and I pulled myself together. And, like, you know, obviously I'm worried

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and I'm tired, but, like, I have these tools, and so, like, making sure

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I'm journaling and sleeping, and I've rearranged some things in my schedule, and I'm

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doing what I need to do. And I just had a massage, and I have

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another massage next weekend. Oh, my God, what perfect timing for a yoga

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retreat for me. For me and my nervous system.

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That'll be really nice. Yeah. So Shane's starting to feel better. He's starting to

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get movement, like, full movement back in his left

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arm and leg, but it's not 100%. He's still very tired.

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So I'm looking forward to having more answers.

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And next time Alana and I do a podcast update,

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I will update you all. But. So it's been

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exciting, but not the good type of exciting.

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Yeah. And it's interesting because

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when you've gone through

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any sort of medical trauma, whether it's

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yourself or someone else, the way you respond

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and react to these events is

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gonna show that because the body remembers in different ways. And

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so, like, the way for me, I was very.

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I got very triggered because our

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mom was very much a minimizer at

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first with her. With her health stuff. And so

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I kept being like, okay, like, you should go back. If you. It's been 24

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hours. You should go back to the hospital

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and. Because that's my reality with what

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it was like for our mom and

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needing answers. So it's impressive to see

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how your nervous system has been impactful, because

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the fact that you're able to wait until Thursday, I wouldn't

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be. Because despite all the work I've

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done on myself and whatnot, the. The

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plan in the Kaplan, it's like our alarm

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bells are ringing. Yeah. So I agree.

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It's also one of those things where. Like what? Like,

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how much can you influence someone else? Right. And so,

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like, he is from. Cut from the cloth of, like, slicing

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his hand open on a blade, and instead of getting stitches, gluing it shut, or,

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like, having a heart attack for a week and a half and not going to

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the hospital to, like, I force him. And. And we

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maybe you a bit more, like, feel a little weird and you go

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to the doctor. So it's like the two ends of the spectrum. Yeah. And

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so, like, obviously, there's only so much we can do

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to influence someone's medical decisions. So,

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like, when I said to Shane, like, I think you're having a stroke, and he's

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like, no, but obviously something there. Like, he

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maybe Googled it. I don't really know, but something there was like, I should talk

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to my friend who's a doctor. And she came over and was like, you should

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go to the doctor. It might be a stroke. And so, like, being

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his wife is giving him advice is different than, like, someone from the

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outside. And also she said, like, you know, if your

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symptoms start to get worse, like, staying the same is

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fine, getting better is great, but if they start to get at all worse,

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immediately go to the er. So we've been on high alert, like, for the

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first 48 hours. Like, when I had to leave the house to do some work

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stuff, I. I made sure that there was always someone here. And,

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you know, for. For him, like, yeah, he's still really tired, and, like,

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he's not back to full functioning. And we're. I'm getting him out every day for

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a walk, and his mom is here picking him up to go, and they're gonna

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go for a walk. And I. I think those. That's really great.

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But his pain tolerance is so crazy that, like, yeah, something that

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you know, might completely, like, knock us down

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doesn't knock him down. So, you know, at the time of recording, it

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is October 7th. It's Tuesday. In two days, we have an appointment. If things take

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a turn, there'll be an immediate trip to the er. And he knows

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that, but I think it's just, like,

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you can only do so much, right? And

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also because, like, he is someone with high

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medical needs, like type 1 diabetic. And I've been with

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him for 14 years. Like, there's been various medical crises and

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911 calls and trips to doctors and specialists.

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You know, after mom died, he went blind. And, you know, he's had his heart

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attack, and there's been some really bad low blood sugars where I can't get it

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high, and, like, just, like, incidences, like, it happens. And so I think

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also because it is part of my reality, like,

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it is really fucking scary and terrible, but also,

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like, it's become a normal part of my life.

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It doesn't make it easier, but it's less of a shock. Like, it's

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still a shock, but it's less of a shock. Yeah, it's

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like the. That saying, like, you're shocked, but you're not surprised, or

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surprised but not shocked. I don't know, whatever.

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But I guess the other thing, like, we talked about offline is, like, the caregiver,

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like, because, like, being a wife I'm also his advocate in the medical system

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because in Canada. Well, I don't know how it is in the US but in

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Canada with free medical. I say free as in like you

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pay with pay in other ways, like not always getting the

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adequate care and like needing to have an advocate and

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higher taxes, higher taxes anyways, like, you know, so

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not only am I his wife and his like friend, but like

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his advocate and also like the secretary between him and

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like maybe work or family or friends like the rest of the world

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because there's only so much he can, you know, field. And

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the caregiver, like making sure he's taking his meds because he's on a

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cocktail of meds, not besides his diabetes, he's on all these heart meds and

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now a new blood thinner and like, you know, it just because, you

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know, 50 year old men need someone to give them their pills. Trust

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me, like, and

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I mean like I travel a lot and like it's, it's at a point where,

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you know, like there's only so much I can do as a caregiver, but it's

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a lot. And I, I really been thinking about like

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who takes care of that caregiver. And like in

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this situation, like when the heart attack happened, like mom was just there for

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me, like you know, chatting with her and being, you know, and so like

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my mom and dad are, mom and dad are dead. And like, yeah, you're here

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for me. It's just not the same. You're not a parent. You're kind of like

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the equal. Yeah. And like I don't want to lean

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on like Val's going through it too, my mother in law.

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So it's, it's definitely interesting this time because it's like when I, you know,

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I want to go call mom and then like dad would be the default to

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also call because he did have good advice for me and he did support me

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in the best way he could and. But they're both dead and it's like

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I've had friends reach out like, you know, you're the caregiver, you need someone to

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take care of you. I'm like, what do I even need? Like, I can tell

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you I've been ordering a lot of food. If you're listening to this like doordash

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or skip the dishes, gift cards are great and we've gotten a few. But like,

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you know, I'm responsible for taking care of myself on top of

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all of this. Which is why the yoga retreat is coming up and I'm So

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fucking excited. And I'm going to be in the rainforest and I'm going to do

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yoga and massage. Have a massage and do walks on the beach and

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not have anywhere to be except for yoga. You can also

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get an Ouija board and reach out to mom

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and dad. Mom was in my

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dream last night. Really want to hear about it?

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Do I? Okay, so I had. I have fairly,

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like, interrupted sleeps. Like, mostly only if I share a bed with Shane. And he's

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went back to his own bed because I, like, wanted to make sure he was

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fine. But he's now back in the guest room because he snores.

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But my cats wake me when it's time to eat anyways. And so I went

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back to sleep after I fed the cats. And I had this very weird dream

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where me and you and mom were like, at Tim Hortons.

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And, like, mom was trying to order in Spanish, but no one spoke

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Spanish. She got in the fight with the worker there because she's like, you have

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to speak English. And like, mom threw a donut at

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the worker. And like, you and I ran out because we were so embarrassed, but

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it was so funny. Like, mom was in her dream and she was speaking.

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I don't even think Mom's like, Mom. She. The only thing she knew how to

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say in Spanish was uno ma cerve. Yeah, I was gonna say cerveza.

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Yeah. But anyways, mom came to visit me last night.

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So maybe she was trying to just tell me, go, like, go eat some. Donuts

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maybe, or just like, it's okay to not be

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serious and throw donuts at people.

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Yeah. So. But yeah, I don't know. I mean,

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like, I'm in it, I guess. Like, we're all always in a

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season of sorts. And, you know, it just. It's life. And

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that's why when things are going really well, I love to take that time to

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really bask in that glow and that glimmer because it's like

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this, the sense of peace and it's never going to last because

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life is lifey. Something's going to happen. A job, change a person,

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change a health change to you or someone you love. Like, I have

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so many friends going through so much right now with, you know, sick parents or

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big changes and life. And, you know, it's not

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always calm. So when it's calm, if you're listening to this and nothing's going on,

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like, enjoy. And if you are just feeling like you're always riding a wave of

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hard, it'll eventually have to stop. Like the ocean

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eventually, like, takes a minute.

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Yeah. It might. Or might

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not. It might not. I mean, it'll either take a minute now or when you're

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dead, so. Yeah, well, that would take the ultimate

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rest. Or would it be. Hopefully.

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Yeah, that's my hope. Yeah. So

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that's my update. My update is that I'm getting ready to go on a

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yoga retreat and then on a grief trip to Australia, and then we're gonna

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go. Alana and I are meeting in LA at the end of November or

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like mid November for end well and Grieftastic, which we're both

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going to just attend both. And it will be great. It'll be great

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with griefy gals on the loose. It's gonna be good because we're gonna meet some,

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like, celebrities in the grief space and hopefully get some new podcast

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guests and friends. And, like, it's interesting because,

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you know, people know who we are and we know who people are, but we've

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never met a lot of these people. So griefy gals on the loose and. You

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know, it'll be fun with griefy gals on the loose, because usually when the griefy

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gals are together, unless it's grief week, we're working

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in some capacity. Yeah. And we get to just be. But we are. But

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we're learning, so it's not. We're learning, but it's not like we're not

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be on. Well, we will all be on. You're always on, though.

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Yeah, I'll be in low power mode unless I have to not be. But, like,

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we're gonna be, like, learning and schmoozing our little hearts out.

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Yeah, I'll be schmoozing our little hearts out while you stand beside

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me looking cute, looking smiley,

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smizing. I'm trying to right now,

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smite. Lana. If you're watching the video, you can see me smize.

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So I think that's a good update for now. Shane's

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alive. Shane's alive. I'm alive.

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I'm alive. Great. We're here

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somewhere. When you're listening to this, Blair will be in

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Shavasana and I will not

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be. And if you're listening to this and it's like, not on

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the release date, I may be back from. From the

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retreat, but Alana and I will have another couple podcast

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episodes in between now and End well

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and the next one we do, we'll have updates on Alana's new

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smorgasborg situation of work, and we're gonna have more updates on our

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books. We still have spots available in Resilient AF Stories of Resilience,

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Volume 3. There's still some spots on the grief trips. There's Australia

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coming up and the males in February and Bali in April.

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And, you know, maybe you're listening to this and you're like, I want to be

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a guest on their podcast. Reach out. Like, we're looking for guests

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who have stories of overcoming challenges. Yeah,

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you can. Yeah. You raised your hand. Atana.

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Yes, Atlanta. Hi. I have a comment.

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I have an idea of what we can call this episode and. Okay, what should

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we call it? Because I was gonna call it. Call Me Up. Oh,

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I was gonna call it Smorgasbord and Strokes.

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No. Well, I don't know. We'll talk about it offline.

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That's smorgasbord. How do you even. That's a very big word.

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I. I think it's. It's spellable. Okay, fine. It's going to be

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smorgasbord and Strokes. No,

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we'll. We'll save that for another time. Okay.

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Okay. Well, thank you for tuning in to another episode of Resilient AF

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Smorgasbords and Strokes with Blair and Alana.

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Alana's on the smorgasbord. My husband's on the strokes.

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Little yin, a little yang, a little yin.

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Yin. Yin yoga. Yang yoga. Is it

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yin and yang or yin yang?

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Yin, Yin. Yin yang. And the symbol

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is a yin yang. Anyway, this is probably

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time for us to end, so.

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No, we have sillies. Here we go.

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We've stayed for this long. Welcome to the sillies. So we're grateful

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for all of you.

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Oh, Michelle, please edit this. Or don't. Or

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don't. Michelle's our podcast producer. Shout out to Michelle.

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We're grateful for all of you.

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We did so good. We did so good. Aladdin and I only

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get the sillies when it's the most inappropriate times, like right

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now. Alana, shut your camera off.

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I'll do it too. Okay. And remember, everyone,

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you are Brazilian Day off. Thank you for tuning

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in to another episode.

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