Today I happily welcome Genevieve Joy, quantum healer and certified master hypnotherapist, to talk about what hypnotherapy is, what it isn’t, and how it can be best put to use for healing and behavior change.

Genevieve was born with thyroid cancer that went undetected until it was the size of a softball at the age of 11. Her whole life she dealt with extreme fatigue and pain from interstitial cystitis that would never go away, along with an abusive home situation. She made a conscious choice to dissociate from her body and numb herself as much as she could and become the world’s best people pleaser. After 14 years in an abusive marriage, she finally had enough, filed for divorce, and looked up all the strangest, most woo-woo methods out there to heal her physical and emotional suffering. 

During a particularly intense pain flare up, she tried a technique from quantum healing and within an hour, all her pain was gone and it has never come back. What she had done was deleted the neurology that created that pain and the emotional storm around it. Since then she has refined her technique so she can teach it to her clients so they can make changes at the unconscious level.

This episode is full of wisdom about how quantum healing works, who it works best for, and how it’s done. You have to be willing to let go of your old identity and brave enough to do the work without blaming anyone. The degree to which you prioritize your own well-being is the degree to which you will be well.

Learn more about Genevieve Joy:

Website: https://www.iamgenevievejoy.com/

Social IG and Facebook: @iamgenevievejoy

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Hey there and welcome back to the Nutrition Edit podcast.

I'm your host, Jeanie Oliver, functional nutrition and wellness coach, and

today my guest is Genevieve Joy.

Genevieve is a quantum healer and certified master hypnotherapist, and she

has also been fully initiated into the ancient Polynesian healing art of Huna.

She now uses these tools to guide other women in healing the source

of their most problematic patterns, enabling them to create lives that feel

vibrant, joyful, and deeply fulfill.

I've always been very curious about hypnotherapy and today we dive

into what it is, what it isn't, and how we can best put it to use

for healing and behavior change.

I learned a ton from Genevieve today and I had so much fun talking with her, so

I think you're gonna love this episode.

So without further review, let's jump in.

Hey, Genevieve, welcome.

I'm so glad to have you here today.

Thanks for joining.

Hey Jeanie, thanks so much for having me.

I'm so glad to be here.

Yeah, welcome.

I'm so excited to talk to you about this today because it's something

I've been curious about for a really long time, and I know that there are

a lot of myths around hypnotherapy and, you know, just misconceptions.

Those of us, like myself who may be sort of, you know, Leaning towards control

freak status are a little freaked out by the idea of being hypnotized.

So so many questions for you today.

I'm really excited about it, but let's just dive in.

I wanna hear a little more about your background, tell us

your story, it's so powerful.

And then share a little bit about how you got into doing this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My story is kind of wild and it really starts back in 2017 when I

was at the lowest point in my life, physically, emotionally, and mentally.

I was born with thyroid cancer that went undetected until it became the size of

a softball when I was 11, and it had already metastasized and spread 200

smaller tumors all the way from the base of my brain to the top of my heart, and,

and I did have the cancer removed and.

Taking thyroid replacement hormone.

But my entire life I had to deal with an extreme level of

fatigue that did not go away.

Even after the surgery.

And when I was two years old, I was diagnosed with an intense chronic

pain condition called interstitial cystitis, which if you're not

familiar, is the pain of a bladder infection without any actual infection.

So there's no obvious way to make it go away and.

So doctors told me that they didn't know how to fix it, but they offered

me , some pretty intense narcotic drugs to try and manage that pain,

but it, it just never went away.

So I spent every day of my life in just extreme levels

of fatigue and physical pain.

And I also grew up in an extremely abusive family.

My parents were both raging narcissists and they just terrorized

me emotionally and psychologically, and by the time I made it to college,

I just felt like a completely worthless human being, and I was so.

Psychologically traumatized that I, I honestly had a hard time

telling the difference sometimes between my dreams and reality.

But you would never have known that any of this was going on to, to look at me

not, and not even my closest friends knew because I had straight aides.

I was a student athlete in college.

I mean, I had my stuff together, but the only reason I was able to do that was.

When I was 13, I, I made a very conscious choice to completely

dissociate myself from my body so that I could get on with my life.

I mean, I, I remember the day I was sitting in my room and I was in so

much pain, and I was so tired, and I just wanted to sleep all day long,

and I was so tired of being afraid of my parents, and I remember thinking,

I cannot go on like this anymore.

I to be honest, I, I was like, I don't think I can kill myself,

but I can't keep living like this.

So I just decided to become the world's greatest people pleaser, and I would just

agree to shape shift into whoever I needed to be to get my parents to leave me alone.

And I just decided to become as numb as I had to be to my body so

that I could do the things I wanted to do to have some semblance of.

I, I wanted to play sports and I wanted to do creative writing,

and I wanted to play music.

So every day from that day on, I woke up and I asked myself, okay,

what would I do today if I was not in pain or exhausted or super depressed?

And then I just would pretend that I was not any of those things, that

I'd go do whatever I wanted to do.

I was still miserable, but at least I was doing stuff right.

Well, fast forward to 2000 s.

I was in a much more intense moment of that moment when I was 13, when I

realized I can't live like this anymore.

That interstitial cystitis pain had become so intense that it would cause me

to vomit or pass out on a regular basis.

And I'm over six feet tall and I only weigh 112 pounds.

I look like a walking skeleton, and I'd spent the last 14 years

in an abusive marriage and my ability to pretend like I was okay

physically ventrally or emotionally.

Gone.

Completely gone.

I just felt like there's, there's absolutely no way that this

is ever going to get better.

I felt like my life is basically the same since it wasn't, I was a little

kid and, and if I can't figure out a way to fix this then it's just, it

must never going to, you know, change.

But again, I felt like.

I can't kill myself.

I can't end this cuz I've got kids.

Yeah.

And if I'm not here, they're gonna be stuck with their abusive dad if I'm gone.

And then one day my ex-husband gave me the greatest gift that

I've ever received to this day.

And I mean that seriously.

He's a big drinker, and during the day, you know, he'd go to work and

like live it up with his friends.

Then he'd come home and take all of his emotions out on me.

And I would respond every time by saying like the right

things, quote unquote, right?

I'd say what you're doing is totally unacceptable and it's true, right?

And you need to knock it off now.

Look how you're hurting me.

Look how you're hurt.

And every time he'd respond in exactly the same way, I don't have a problem.

You're the only one with the problem here.

And he was obviously trying to gaslight me.

Right?

Yeah.

And for a long time it worked.

Until one day everything happened.

Like it always happens, right?

The pattern repeated.

But when he said those words that day, for some reason I

just, I heard them differently.

And I allowed myself to stop for a second and just get a little bit curious, and I

asked myself, all right, hold on a minute.

what's a problem really?

Well, maybe a problem that is something that causes somebody to feel pain.

Okay.

That that seems right.

All right, well, who in this situation is feeling pain?

Oh yeah, it's not him.

That's me . And that means I am the one with the problem.

Well, if this problem belongs to me, then I am the one with the authority to fix it.

And that is when everything changed.

And I became totally single minded in that moment.

I stopped trying to save my ex from himself and I stopped trying

to save my kids from their dad.

And I decided to put everything I had into saving myself.

Cuz I realized that's the only thing I had the power to.

And I just held on to the belief that by doing everything I possibly could to

end this obvious generational pattern of abuse, both self abuse and abuse

from other people, then I would show my kids how to save themselves too.

Yeah, and I'll tell you, that is exactly what happened.

The very next day I filed for divorce, I started researching the weirdest most out

there healing methods to try to heal my physical, mental, and emotional suffering.

I'd been in traditional therapy my whole life and it didn't change

anything for me mentally or emotionally.

I'd been to doctors at the top research hospitals all over the country.

They couldn't do a thing for my physical pain, you know?

And then I got into, you know, a little more of the like mainstream woowoo, right?

I tried yoga, meditation, journaling, and I definitely had more hope, but nothing in

my everyday reality was changing at all.

So I just decided to get as far away from the mainstream as I could.

Yep.

Get me all the weird stuff.

Let me try it.

And I found hypnotherapy and quantum healing and I learned about one tiny

little piece of the full quantum healing process that I now teach my students.

And one day when I had a really intense.

Pain flare up of that interstitial cystitis.

I was in my car, I was sobbing, I was close to passing out.

I stopped driving, obviously, and I thought, you know what?

I don't have anything to lose, so why don't I just give this weird thing a shot?

So, Without really knowing what I was doing.

I tried it, and I'll tell you what, within 30 minutes, my physical pain

went from being a 10, outta 10 to a three, and that had never happened

before, even with hardcore narcotics.

And 20 minutes later, by the time I got home, my pain was at a zero.

And since that moment, six years ago it's never come back.

Not even a teeny tiny bit, even though the most stressful times of my life have.

After that moment.

The piece of that process is something that I call timelining.

The way I do it now has evolved immensely since that little

process that I use in that moment.

The idea is to go back to the original root cause of the pattern,

which is something you will probably not consciously remember.

Yeah, but in that moment, because my, my body was so lit up all of

my neurological pathways associated with that pain, which is the same

neurological pathways that are associated with the emotional constellation

that I have around that pain, right?

It's all the same thing.

They were more as lit up as they could possibly be, and that means all I really

needed was anything, anything can help me access the unconscious route of that.

So it's gonna go like, Hmm.

Because it was so on fire, right?

And so that's what I did.

I, I went back in time and I recalled a highly, highly charged memory associated

with the emotions of that pain.

And I did some work to give and receive healing information around that.

And it was just gone.

It was just gone.

I don't recommend doing it that way because most people's

neurology is not going to be lit up to the degree that mine was.

That's why that was so effective because that process wasn't

as effective as it could be.

Right.

But yeah, that's why it worked.

And I, I believe it was so effective.

and the changes that it created were so permanent because I actually deleted

the neurology that was creating my physical pain and the emotional pain

that went with it, that neurology is gone, which is why it cannot come back.

So yeah, after that day, I remember I got home, I, and I just sat in my

car holding onto the steering wheel.

Really letting the realization sink in of what I just did.

I just did something that doctors all over this country

told me would never be possible.

Mm-hmm.

I made a miracle, a real life miracle, and in that moment I,

I was a totally different woman.

and I, I re, like, I can, I can do magic here.

I have to tell everybody else if I can do magic, if I can change the thing that was

torturing me, then what else can I do?

And I wanna help other women learn how to stop their own suffering.

Right?

So I got my certification as a master hypnotherapist and I started working

with women who wanted to heal the source of their problematic patterns.

And I just kept learning and refining and learning, refining,

and I continued to take my study of unconscious healing method.

even further even to the more kind of esoteric right until I went through

a very powerful spiritual initiation process into ancient Hawaiian Huna,

which I believe is like the pinnacle of unconscious healing methods.

And, and that's what I use today.

Wow.

That's intense

. Jeannie Oliver: Yeah, it's amazing.

And.

I mean, wow.

Like, I don't even know what to say to that.

I think that so many of us, I mean obviously it's, it's

relative for everyone, right?

It's I think sometimes we can get into this like contest, so to

speak, in our own heads of like, well, I don't have it that bad.

It could be so much worse.

I could have gone through what generally did or what someone else did,

and it could just be so much worse.

And so we push things off and push things off and we don't address

them because we're minimizing them.

And I think that in itself is sort of a survival mechanism.

Like it's not that bad.

You can just keep going.

And it's a way of dissociating as well.

Yep, yep.

So yeah, I mean, thanks for sharing that because that's, An incredible

shift in what you'd experienced your entire life up to that point.

Yeah.

And so you said that started when you were two.

How old were you and if you don't mind me asking, when this shift happened?

Let's see, so I was 37 8.

Seven, eight, somewhere in there.

Yeah.

Late thirties . Isn't that so interesting?

Yeah.

I, I didn't get into doing my own work.

Until my late thirties either.

Mm-hmm.

, it's a very interesting time in our lives.

Mm-hmm.

. Mm-hmm.

awakening and a realization that

midlife, so.

Yep.

It's a beautiful time.

Yeah.

So

tell me, why don't you tell us what hypnotherapy actually

is and how it works, because I think that we all sort of have this idea

of, you know, the random guy on the stage and criticizes someone and makes

them quack, like a duck, like a dog, whatever.

So tell us what it actually.

Okay.

So first of all, that's a thing and you know, okay, , that's not this,

I don't, I mean, Quacken leg aduc is fine, but like, how does that help

you change your life if Quacken leg a duck help you to change your life?

I'd be all on board.

But I, I, I haven't, fine, I haven't found why for that to do that.

So that's why I don't do it.

So hypnosis is a fairly general term that refers to any process

that allows you to access.

Unconscious mind.

That's the aspect of you that runs your bodily functions, your emotions, your

memories, your desires, your thoughts, your obsessions and compulsions.

Anything that you don't consciously choose is run by your unconscious mind.

And I think the thing that's really important to notice here is that your

unconscious mind is the link between your body, your emotions, your.

and the desire you have to make or avoid making certain choices.

There's an unconscious motivation right behind your choices, and unless you're

using a healing process that has the power to access that unconscious source that's

driving your emotions, your thoughts, and your choices, then the chance of

you being able to make a big change that lasts over the long term isn't great

because you can't just consciously choose to override your unconscious program.

Right.

You, you can't just like, you can't consciously choose to stop your own heart.

Right now it's the same thing.

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, when you do use an unconscious healing process, you are able to do

one simple thing that creates a massive change in your experience of life.

And that happens because when you make a change at the unconscious level,

you're changing the very mechanism by which your entire reality and

your quality of life is created.

That means you will feel like a totally different.

. Yeah.

Yeah.

That's so powerful.

I, you know, I tend to use the term like, oh, your, your brain is driving

the bus or your mind is driving the bus.

Which that's true to some degree, but there is so much that is

subconscious for us mm-hmm.

, that we can't understand with our logical minds.

Mm-hmm.

right.

As to well, why, even though I know something doesn't serve me well,

I know that, Drinking too much alcohol or eating tons of sugar,

whatever it might be, you know?

Mm-hmm.

not moving my body.

, I know these things don't work for me.

They don't serve me well.

I know consciously, so many of the people that I work with, they know a lot

It's not lack of knowledge that they are coming in with.

Yeah.

It's this deeper emotional driver that exists that, it could be

easier or harder to uncover.

And so that's why I think this is so exciting because

it taps into those things and.

what I think is coming now into our social consciousness.

Better understanding of just how our nervous systems work.

Yeah.

And look, even if you've been in a very negative or abusive

situation, you're used to that.

So the nervous system knows it's kind of the devil, you know?

Right, exactly.

It's familiarity there.

Yeah.

And it's gonna keep trying to maintain that sort of state,

because that's familiar.

Yeah.

We know how to cope with that.

We know how to navigate that.

Yep.

But even if we're making positive changes, like.

That tells the nervous system.

Cause the nervous system doesn't have like a little, you know,

thinking reasoning brain.

Mm-hmm.

, it's just mm-hmm.

Cellular, you know, on a cellular primal level.

Mm-hmm.

how it's gonna react to keep us safe.

Yeah.

Keep us alive.

Yep.

And so, you know, I see this so many times.

I think a really good example is we all have, and I think I've used this

in a previous podcast, like we've all got the one friend who like dates

essentially the same person over and over.

And it's always.

A terrible situation.

It's always a bad choice.

Yep.

But they're attracted to that type of person because it's something that's

familiar, that feels safe in that.

Mm-hmm.

, even if it's absolutely the opposite.

So, yep.

Yeah, so anyway, I got off track a little bit on there, on that subject.

But I just think it's really helpful and empowering to understand that our

nervous systems wanna keep us someplace.

And so it's natural to have this sort of innate built in resistance to change.

And we can release the shame

around that.

Absolutely.

And like, yeah.

And like, let's just, let me let everybody off the hook here, . But you

know, when we have those moments when we like find ourselves at the end of a

relationship with the same kind of D bag that we've been dating forever, right?

It was one of my favorite terms.

Yeah, totally.

You know what I mean?

It's not like you saw that guy and you.

Douche canoe over here.

Let me sign up for this one.

. That's my dude.

Right.

That obviously didn't happen.

No.

Right.

You know, same thing with finding yourself, you know, in front of the

freezer at midnight, just, you know, yes.

Hoovering a pint of ice cream.

It's not like you said, this is gonna be a great look for me.

I'm gonna Yes to that.

Yes to that.

That's not what happened.

Right.

There is an emotional resource.

There is something that you felt like you were lacking and that

douche canoe or that pin of ice cream or what the new purge that.

Spent way too much money on, right?

Yeah.

That was giving you access to an emotional resource that you felt like you didn't

have enough of, and that there was no other way for you to get in the moment.

That's why you did that.

So quit beating yourself up over that.

You need that emotional resource.

Yeah, you need that right now.

What we can do with hypnotherapy is neutralize your attachment to having.

So that you can actually receive it and the blocks that are keeping you from

having it right, so that it's yours now.

And now we don't need to go looking for it in inappropriate ways like

douche canoes and pine of ice cream and overpriced handbags.

Right now you can ask yourself, wait a minute, what about this guy?

is attracting me to him.

Or obviously you won't be attracted to those kinds of guys anymore.

Right.

But when you're thinking about ice cream, when you're thinking about purses, it's a

totally different kind of feeling for you.

Yeah.

That's how you're able to make conscious choices, right?

We need to get that unconscious programming that's keeping you stuck in

that pattern handled so that you can't actually consciously create your life.

You won't be able to consciously create your life until you do that.

So no need for blame.

That doesn't need to be a part of it at all, right?

This is about a search for resources, and those resources are things that you need.

You're just going about them in inappropriate ways.

Let's take care of that, and then it's gonna be no big deal.

, right?

Yeah.

So give me a little play by play.

I come into your office or we're having a session online, however you work.

Yeah.

And, okay, Janie, it's time.

Like we're gonna do some hypnotherapy work.

What does that look like?

Okay.

Well, first of all, I wanna tell you, explain to folks what trance is.

Trance is just the name we call of, like that state you go into when you are.

In hypnosis.

Notice I did not say being hypnotized.

Okay?

All hypnosis is self hypnosis.

Okay?

I can say things to you, I'm just gonna give you directions, right?

Go inside, see this happening.

See this happening.

You can do it or not do it.

It's totally up to you, right?

So what have I told you?

That you are in a trance right this moment.

You and I are both in a trance together.

Everybody listening to this is in a trance right now.

It's just that, again, the name of the state that you're

in when you're hypnotized.

We're in a very, very light trance right now, but you are in one.

Every time you read, watch tv, listen to a podcast, scroll through

social media, drive in your.

, you are in a trance.

Okay?

Yeah.

Every moment that you move through life without 100% conscious

awareness, you're in a trance.

Mm-hmm.

. But in order to do that every single moment of every day,

you'd have to consciously ask yourself, what do I want now?

What do I want now?

What do I want now?

But we don't do that.

And that's, that's not a bad thing, right?

Because you literally drive yourself insane.

If you did that , right?

You can't live like that.

So we need our unconscious minds because they make our lives easier and they

give us peace and the space to rest.

Right?

So with hypnotherapy, all we're doing is recognizing, hey, you're

already in a trance most of the time.

Why don't we do it on purpose with the intention of healing our most problematic

patterns so we can consciously create a life that feels vibrant, joyful, and

deeply fulfilling instead of numbing ourselves and living life on autopilot.

Right, right.

So we're just going into that in a deeper

level,

essentially.

and we're getting information first.

The first step is to get information, and I'm gonna tell you now, it doesn't

have anything to do with who did what to you and what their damage was.

That interesting is not helpful.

What I wanna know is what's that resource, right?

Mm-hmm.

, what are you hoping to have happen or stop happening when you date Mr.

Douche canoe?

. , right?

How are you expecting to feel?

What's gonna stop happening for you when you.

Prince Charming when you find Mr.

Wright or Mrs.

Wright or whoever it is, right?

And we get all of these resources that have been keeping this

problematic pattern attached to you.

Let me go get all that stuff.

Notice I don't need details about, mm-hmm.

, what made you choose the, I don't need any about that stuff.

Okay.

I don't need any of that information.

In fact, when we get into the details of your problem, all it's doing

is solidifying the neurology that you've created around the problem.

So interesting.

I never recommend, please do not get into conversations with your

friends about all of these things.

You're just making it worse.

Okay?

It's one thing to talk about feelings.

Yeah.

Right now I'm feeling X, Y, Z, and I'm feeling this other way.

As soon as you start using the word, because you are traveling a very d.

Okay.

So just be aware of that.

What I recommend we do instead is something I called an emotional barf.

Some people don't like it because they don't get to use because but

it actually, it, it's incredibly effective and all you have to do is

just sit down when you're in a funky state and you just list your feelings.

Right now I am feeling blank.

No, because I'm feeling blank.

I'm feeling blank.

I'm feeling blank.

I'm feeling blank.

And you are probably gonna notice that you get a mix of positively charged

words and negatively charged words.

It doesn't matter.

You feel like you have too much of the negative stuff and

not enough of the positive.

And this is a way to neutralize both of them so you can have less

of the stuff you don't want and more of the stuff that you do want.

And you may also notice that you get a lot of repeat.

Doesn't matter.

That word just has a high charge for you and you just keep going until you

reach a place where there's nothing left.

I know that sounds a little bit vague, but I call it an emotional bar for a reason.

Cuz just like when you're barfing, when you have the flu, you know when

you're done , it's the same thing.

. Okay.

You just have to trust me on that one.

Yeah, well that's

cause that's so interesting.

Cause that's exactly the opposite of, I think what traditional therapy does.

Like you're rehashing and you're rehashing and you're unpacking this and that, and.

. God, it's exhausting.

Yeah.

And it doesn't work.

Like, oh, we're actually just solidifying.

Yep.

Garbage.

Yep.

Yep.

It's helpful for people who, you know, lived in situations where I lived,

where it's like you were constantly being gaslit into believing that, like

what you saw you didn't see and what you're feeling you're not feeling.

Right.

So that can be helpful.

Like for people who were like, wait, a who, who am I?

And what is happening?

Right?

And you go to therapy and you're like, wait a minute, did, is that a thing?

And they're like, yeah, that's a thing.

And then you go like, okay, I'm, I'm a whole human being right now.

I can trust my emotions to guide me.

Like if you were in that kind of a crappy place, yeah, you

might need something like that.

After that, if your goal for therapy is feeling validated and like returning to

center, I'm a hundred percent for that.

If your goal from therapy is trying to end your problematic patterns, yeah.

Uh, I suggest we, we push pause and maybe ask ourselves, is that

really what's going on here?

Yeah.

Very cool.

Yeah, that's really encouraging because I, I, I mean, I, for years did therapy.

decades even.

Yeah.

Traditional talk therapy.

Yeah.

And I felt a little better.

Like it was nice to get things off my chest and have someone

who truly listened and cared.

Mm-hmm.

and you know, you walk away feeling a little bit lighter.

Yep.

Did it change anything?

Yeah, not really.

No, it wasn't.

And you know, I think this is sort of tied into the work you

do, but it wasn't until I started working with a therapist who uses.

more of these somatic modalities, like emtr and that type of thing.

So in tapping that, I actually saw a shift.

It's not like, and tell me if, if hypnosis is similar in this.

It wasn't like I forgot things.

It wasn't like suddenly this was an erase memory from my mind or my life.

Yep.

It was just that those experiences or events didn't carry that emotional charge

so much anymore and they no longer had the power of my life that they used to.

Yes.

So there is a depth.

So what you're talking about with E M D R tapping, things like that, those are

processes that do access the unconscious.

Mm-hmm.

We can get into the technicality of that if you want to, but I think for general

purposes, that's why those are affected because they do work right now, there

is a level of depth with those, they can only go so deep because you're using

your conscious mind so much with those.

Right.

It's true.

And sometimes I struggle with that.

Yep.

Cause I can't get out of that.

Exactly.

Exactly.

There Well, there is, you, everybody has something called a critical factor.

So if you think about your unconscious and conscious minds,

like a Venn diagram, that little place where they need in the middle.

Okay.

Is, is both a very helpful because it's a window for us to consciously use our

unconscious, which is what we need.

Right.

And there's something that lives in there called a critical factor.

It's like a gateway.

That your unconscious mind uses to try to keep you in that safe zone

that you've already adapted to, right?

Yeah.

So the more you stay there in that middle place, if you've got a real

long-term problematic pattern, the trickier it is when you're using

very conscious processes like that.

Okay.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

So when we do higher level unconscious healing, We're able to make a much

deeper transformation very quickly.

And I will tell you there is actually a way to erase memories.

I actually worked with a woman who unfortunately witnessed the

suicide of her son in her home.

Yeah.

And I'm sure you can imagine all the problems that she had with that.

She drove home from work, walked in her front door.

Saw what she saw.

So she was having trouble, like even getting in her

car to drive home from work.

And she's a unique person, which is why this works so fast.

I don't think this might have worked so fast for everybody else in one session.

It's gone.

It was gone.

And I was like, you're gonna have to convince me.

I don't actually believe you.

This has never happened that fast for anybody else.

But I kept checking in with her and she's like, no, I'm fine.

I'm like, okay, tell me.

The one thing that you remember most about your son and when we

started working together, she was like, well, what do you think it is?

It's that last memory.

Right?

Which is where most people get stuck.

Right.

And no, she was telling me all about the times when like, you know, he did the

school play when he was in fifth grade.

And those are, sweet memories, but they're much harder to access when

you have this intense, chronic thing.

No, it was, it was gone.

So we really can do things like.

What, what I find that most people don't need that though.

What they need is to see whatever that problematic pattern was or that

one really intense memory is from a much more empowered perspective.

You are not who, even if it happened yesterday, you are

not who you were yesterday.

You have gained more wisdom since then and what needs to happen is that

the you who was living then needs to receive the wisdom of grown ass.

You.

So that you can see that situation from a higher perspective.

Understand that whatever was happening there was just a search for resources.

Even if somebody did something horrible to you that on in no planet will

ever be acceptable, they were doing it because they were on a search

for resources and they didn't know how else to get those resources.

Yeah.

And however you responded or you perceived that situation, it's the same thing.

It was a search for resources.

Well, you have those, now you have them.

So what's given to you?

. Mm-hmm.

. And we're gonna see it in a different way.

And yeah, there are other things that we do to make cuz I'm a person who is

very, very thorough and methodical.

I don't wanna just go in and like, let's clean this thing up 57 times.

I want it gone now.

And so we go in and do other things as well.

Go grab all the parts of you that are in conflict with this.

The parts of you that are in conflict with wanting to be past this for good.

Go round all those up cutting cords between the current version

of you and the old version of you.

There's a way that I do that that is extremely unconscious so that we can

really put this thing to bed for good.

And then the last piece that I think a lot of people either don't realize

exists or don't know what to do with, is that once you've done a healing,

you're actually in a void space.

You know who you're not anymore, but maybe you're not quite sure

about who you're becoming, that's a very dangerous space to stay in.

It's one thing to be in it for a second.

But once you do that, you know your unconscious mind wants safety.

And one of the main ways that it's probably gonna go about looking to

get safety is by repeating old habits.

The same kinds of choices and behaviors and things like that

that got you into that problematic situation in the first place.

We gotta get you outta there as fast as possible.

So that's why I build that into the quantum healing process

so you don't leave it written.

We're not done until you have done, it's a very simple thing.

We we're just infusing.

The events with this very specific energy.

And then once the healing process is technically done, like that internal work,

we go back and we do some checking and we do more installation of resources, right?

Remember the whole thing is about a search for resources.

So let me give them to you now.

And it's about finding the new meaning here.

And again, it's very, very simple.

You can do the whole thing from like, oh my gosh, I realized

I just found a pattern.

Let me go get the process to.

Did the discovery work.

I did the self-healing work and I've done the installation of resources, whole

thing, ba bing, ba boom, 30 minutes max.

That's all you need.

Now you have to go do the work of making new choices.

It's not over then.

Right?

You are required to make radically different choices, but

then the healing phase is over.

And the brave work, you know, of taking action in new ways continues.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's exciting.

Yeah.

, to say the least.

Yeah.

So.

, we're getting into that sort of deeper trans state.

Mm-hmm.

maybe after doing this emotional barf Yeah.

That you talked about.

Yeah.

And then, you know, when that person is in that state, that deeper trans

state, I mean, how unconscious are they?

Like what are you seeing on the screen?

Like what is the person.

How aware are we?

gonna ask everybody's different.

So, okay.

I, I wanna say too, like that when I told you about ancient Hawaiian Huna,

you will go the most unconscious there.

I've had folks like, they look like they're asleep in front of me.

It's because it sends you so deeply.

I mean, think about it, when you are asleep, when you're actually physically

asleep, that's max unconsciousness, right?

When you are fully awake that is the max consciousness level for you, right?

During our waking hours.

so from the client's perspective, You can go as deep as you want to into trance.

Again, it is up to you.

Some people look like they're asleep, , and some people look

like they're fairly coherent.

With the quantum healing process that I teach inside my.

Selfie course Warrior Woman University, you're actually going to be listening

to a series of, like, remember those?

Choose your own adventure books that we had when we were kids, right?

So I set the audios up that way so that you're gonna get as close

to a one-on-one experience as you would get, but it's self-directed.

So you're gonna be listening to that.

So you're gonna be, if you've ever meditated before, it's gonna look and

feel like that Most people close their.

, some people don't.

But you're gonna be guided the whole way through.

When we're in a one-to-one session, I always do those over Zoom.

I'm going to use a more powerful spiritual healing tool.

And that's because I mean, first of all, it just cuts through a hundred

percent of that conscious resistance.

It's just not there with Huna.

And I don't teach that yet to my students because in order to receive

that, you have to go through a very intense spiritual initiation process.

Most people are not ready for that just yet.

Later I will be teaching it in kind of like a level two.

But anyway, with my one-to-one clients, that's what I use and yep.

People do, they'll, they look like they're partly asleep.

But I alway there are cues I use in the process that I do.

If this is happening, nod your head, and even if you look like you're

out, you're gonna nod your head.

Yeah.

So it, it just, it depends on the person and, and how deep they wanna go.

But everybody comes back up.

You are doing this inside yourself.

I'm not doing anything to you.

I'm guiding you through a process with the Una healing, I'm actually

using my breath and my hands to create and blow symbols that I blow to you.

So it's a much more high level.

There's none consciousness happening on your end and that is coming in

and doing work for you, which is.

, there's just no conscious resistance at all.

And that creates change on the level of identity.

It changes who you are, how you see yourself, what's

important to you, your values.

That is, values are what's most important to you.

Yep.

At your deepest level of your unconscious.

And it has the ability to change though.

So that's why all in, in one session, we can just get massive,

massive transformations with one quick little process.

That's

amazing.

I'm excited to try this with you.

Yeah,

. Genevieve Joy: We'll circle back

after I've done this with you.

Totally.

So speaking a little bit to, you know, so many

people and myself too, like I've done a lot of healing work.

I feel like I'm in a healthy place as far as my relationship

with my food and my body.

Yeah.

It was a long road getting here.

Is it?

. Definitely not.

Yeah.

But you know, so many people that I work with are really still struggling

with self-hatred, body hatred.

Yep.

Emotional eating.

Yep.

Food addiction, sometimes, you know, alcohol addiction.

Yeah.

Usually it's a sugar addiction in, in one form or another.

Yeah.

And so when we're talking about something like that, like if someone decides to

do this type of work with you mm-hmm.

, what could they.

Expect to shift, like just speaking to that more specifically.

Okay.

So the clients that I love working with the most and who tend to get

the best results are those who no longer care about why they ended

up in the position they're in.

Mm.

They don't care about who did what to them and what their damage.

, all they care about is putting an end to their personal pain and

suffering as fast as possible.

Yeah.

And they're committed to being brave.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

This is not a do it to me kind of thing.

You've gotta participate here, right?

Yeah.

Even with Huna, and you, I mean, that's the, just the fact you've gotta make

choices, you know, that are new and, and stop making those choices that you.

You gotta make the choices that you avoided making in the past.

Mm-hmm.

. Okay?

So that you can permanently move your life in a new direction.

I mean, look, you can think about it like this.

If you are stuck inside a deeply problematic pattern that keeps

playing out over and over and over again in your life, it kind of

feels like your life is on fire.

. Mm-hmm.

. Well, if your real home, the place where you live, your life was on

fire, you would call 9 1 1 and the fire department would respond.

Now, the fire department is not gonna roll up in front of your blazing

inferno and just stare at it while they have a deep discussion about

who I have started this fire, and how are we gonna get that person to stop?

They know that's not their job.

That's the police's job stuff.

Fire, right?

The firefighter's job is to protect your ability to live a safe and

peaceful life by putting out this fire as fast as possible.

You know, the, the issues with putting out fires in your life is

that most people really want the police and not the fire department.

They're looking for somebody to blame , right?

Yeah, that's so true.

Yes.

Yeah.

That just ain't gonna work.

Mm-hmm.

. So, I mean, to just be really literal, right?

The women who get the best results from working with me have realized that they

have to stop blaming everyone, including themselves for their circumstances.

That's true.

It doesn't matter why you got here.

. Right?

Right.

And that's what enables them to do healing work that really

produces lasting powerful results.

So if you're gonna insist on blaming anybody for any reason, you're gonna

limit your ability to heal now.

Mm-hmm.

, once the fire is out, yes, we do need to look at the choices you am you made, or

avoided making that contributed to the creation of that problematic pattern.

That's what's really gonna end this thing.

Of course if you make the same old choices, no, you will not be

able to recreate the exact same pattern in the exact same way the

neurology that created is gone.

But you will play it out in a new way, and I promise you that's more heartbreaking.

It is now.

This is not about exercising your willpower.

Right?

Right.

I, I think you would agree it's not gonna produce sustainable results.

It's just not.

Cuz you can't consciously override your unconscious programming.

What we do instead is recognize that you made those choices again because they

gave you access to an emotional resource.

So there's no need to blame.

Mm-hmm.

. Okay.

And we can find out what that resource.

And neutralize it so that you have access to it.

Now, you don't feel compelled to do all these unproductive things to

try to get it, and you just Right.

You're free to do radically different things that will Yep.

You're gonna have to feel bright.

It's, it's a little bit like, you know, you're gonna have

to do some Wonder Woman moves.

Yes, you are.

Right.

That leads you in a brand new direction that you can stay in permanently.

Right.

I believe that, I mean, you may have heard it in there, there is like an

addiction compulsion component to every kind of problematic pattern.

Mm-hmm.

. So let's recognize that, you know, and bring that into our healing.

Right.

Because even if we don't like it, we become adapted to living in dysfunctional

ways, and that that's what allows that problematic pattern to continue.

And in order to break it for good, we need to break our addiction to being

the version of ourselves who tolerat.

So that we can become someone new.

This is about healing and letting go of your old identity, and you have to

be willing to let that old identity and everything that came with it die away.

The degree to which you are willing to let your old identity die

is the degree to which that you will be able to live in new ways.

That's the way it works.

Yeah.

And something that you said when we were just chatting before we started

recording, I thought was really profound.

And you said, you know, it's one thing to remove that compulsion or to, take

the, power away from the negative thing.

It's, it's yet another thing to start taking action.

in the opposite direction.

Yep.

And start moving forward with what you need to do.

Yep.

Versus just focusing on what you need to not do.

Right.

And so, I have a similar thing that I always try to reiterate over and over

my clients that let's say, dessert after dinner is like your Achilles heel, and you

always want something sweet after eating dinner, and you just can't say no to it.

It's so hard.

It's like, well, you can't just.

, remove the sweet after dinner and expect to not have this like gaping hole there.

You know, you need to fill it with something.

And like you said, that res, what is filling that emotional need?

What resource can you put in place there that takes the place that fills that void?

Mm-hmm.

. So I heard a really interesting.

Podcast the other day where the gal was talking about she's decided to

go alcohol free for a whole year.

And initially she was only gonna do one month and then she kind of was

like, oh, maybe I'll do 90 days, and then it extended to three months, and

then she eventually like almost hit the six month mark and she's like, well,

why not just keep going with this?

But one of the really cool things that enabled her to stay on this path was the

fact that she, you know, . Everyone's different with whatever reasons that

they have, but for her, it wasn't so much about having the drink or

the ritual of making the drink.

She and her husband are wine lovers.

They enjoy really good wine.

It was about kind of the taste, but more so about the connection and

the time of like just connecting with her husband over this.

Yeah.

Unwinding.

Yeah.

Enjoying that time together.

So she realized like that was actually the really powerful piece of this.

So how can we find this connection and downtime together that's not, you

know, focused on the glass of wine.

Yeah.

So they started taking walks with their dogs in the evening together and you

know, obviously at different times of year that can be more easy than others.

Yeah.

Depending on the climate you live in.

Yeah.

But I thought it was really cool because by identifying like,

okay, what was that emotional.

whole, it was filling like what was the emotional need there?

Yep, yep.

What was this providing me and making peace with that.

Like I always tell people, like make peace with the fact that food

served you on some level up till now.

. Genevieve Joy: Yeah.

You know, and I actually found it really, really helpful.

I have a whole phase in Warrior Woman University, my self-based

course where we talk about pleasure and desire specifically.

Mm-hmm.

, the big concepts of pleasure and desire.

Yeah.

Right.

We're hardwired for as humans.

Yes.

We need those things.

Don't make 'em weird, but especially as women.

There is shame around both of those things.

A hundred percent.

Yep.

Right.

Especially so, and, and it, it impacts every area of your life.

And I'll tell you right now, the reason why you want what you want.

Let's say you want a brand new Mercedes.

You don't actually want the Mercedes, you want the pleasure of

being driven around in a Mercedes.

That's what you really want.

, right?

So there's pleasure associated with everything in our lives.

And what we need to do is make sure that our relationship to pleasure

as a general concept is healthy and beneficial for you, right?

Same thing with desire.

And then on the other end of this spectrum is you know, people, pleas.

and self-sacrifice.

Yes.

That's so huge because I think especially as women too, because if

you were to go ask 10 people, how do you know a woman is a good woman?

I can almost guarantee you 10 outta 10 of those people are gonna say she

puts everybody else before herself.

Yep.

Yep.

Do you realize what's happening when you do that?

Yes.

. When you do that, you are saying, yeah, I'm gonna have less so you can have more.

Anytime you do that, it means at the highest level you are dying to try.

, is that what you wanna do?

Is that really what you wanna do?

And in order for you to go to sleep at night knowing that you're a good person,

you have to feel dead inside in some way.

No, thank you.

I mean, right.

But like this, this is where we go when we start getting curious about

our life and really asking ourselves what's going on behind the service.

Wait a minute, , is that something I really wanna do?

Right.

And then, I mean, look, I am, I am a mama bear at my core.

Currently I am a single mom to three homeschooled kids.

And being a mom and showing up for them is the most important thing to me.

It, it still is, right?

But I didn't know until a few years ago how to be a mom without

doing major self-sacrifice, right?

And in order for me to live in a new way, and that was, that self-sacrifice was

what was allowing me to be abused, right?

I was abusing myself and putting myself in situations where

I felt like this is normal.

And not only is it normal, this is good for me.

This is how I be a good.

Right?

Yep.

So I had to allow my identity, what does it mean to be a good

person, to be a good mother?

Those definitions had to totally change, and I had to be okay with that, with

those totally changing, you know?

Yeah.

In order for me to really end that pattern, I did that work, and I can

tell you now, I see massive changes in my kids are not who they used to

be anymore, and we have a much, much.

Much more healthy relationship since I allowed myself to

stop being a self sacrificer.

Yeah.

I believe it.

Yeah.

I believe it.

And it models it for

them.

Exactly.

And that was the thing I really realized.

If I don't stop self-sacrificing, how is this pattern gonna end?

Well, they're gonna have to Oh, okay.

No, no, no, no.

Yeah,

yeah, yeah.

It's so powerful.

It really is.

Mm-hmm.

and, you know, I've shared things that.

, with my clients who are parents, but I am not a parent.

So I think it's really powerful to hear a parent say like, no, this really makes

a difference in your child's lives too.

But again, I think at some point , we have to, whether we're parents or we're

not parents, we have to detach from doing whatever it is that we should need,

want to do for someone else's benefit.

Right.

Like at some point I think that we need to just go, what do I need?

What do I want?

How do I want to feel inside this earthly shell that I have?

Cuz I've only got one.

Yep.

And if I don't feel like working out one day, but man, it sure makes me feel

really good afterwards and my energy's better the rest of the day, like mm-hmm.

when is the trade off worthwhile for us?

Like, I think we have to kind of get to that point where we.

This is what I need for myself.

This is what I want.

Mm-hmm.

, and if it's uncomfortable for whatever reason mm-hmm.

, be it because we're taking time away from, I don't know, doing something

with a PTA or baking cookies or something, that the world is not

gonna end if we say no to that.

Right.

Right.

We can say yes to these.

acts of self-love, self-care.

Mm-hmm.

. And the more that we can do that, we can solidify that like, this

actually feels good in my body.

This feels good to me.

I am doing something for myself.

And it builds that self trusts, builds that

self-love.

Yeah.

And that trust muscle is, is huge.

Mm-hmm.

. And I also believe too, that it's like once you.

Start to really understand that you have no authority over anyone but yourself.

Yeah, , which means like, I, I can't, there's no way for me to stop

anyone else from feeling any way.

Emotions are things that happen totally inside you.

They are based on your unique neurological profile.

that's it.

I can say words to you and I have no idea how that's gonna impact you.

Right.

Yeah.

Now look, I'm not an asshole.

I can make a guess, right?

, I don't, I don't wanna be a jerk just to be a jerk.

That's not how I am.

Right?

Okay.

So like it's both of those things, you know?

But also it's like, you know, I get into these situations where,

you know, somebody's asking me to bake the cookies, somebody's asking

me to, you know, do whatever.

and I now, in the past I would've said, oh, absolutely, I will bake the cookies.

Mm-hmm.

, absolutely.

I will do this thing that I definitely don't wanna do, but you

will feel disappointed if I don't.

So I'm for sure gonna say yes to that.

Right.

Right.

Okay.

Now I ask myself, what do I want?

Because I know I'm the only person who is in charge of me.

So, and this is the only place that my authority lies, and I'm going to trust

that by doing what's right for me.

Yes, what's right for you will also happen even if the consequences of my actions.

Are you in the moment getting a little bit pissed.

. Yep.

That, that's not my business.

Your emotions are your business.

I don't have any authority over that.

Right?

Once you get in that place, you take all your power back to live

your life in a way that is truly vibrant, joyful, and fulfilling.

The more you keep doing this, people pleasing nonsense, even in the name

of like being a good person and giving to your kids and being a good mom.

It's not, it's not that way.

It doesn't work.

, you won't be happy.

The degree to which you do that is the degree to which you will suffer.

Yeah, and I will say that's the most common.

theme that I see repeated among people who struggle with weight and

emotional eating is people pleasing.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

, it's a thing, man.

It's a thing.

it's baked into our definition of not even just a good woman.

I think it's more intense for women, but everybody, how do I be a good person?

I put everybody else before myself in.

. That's how I know.

And I, I think collectively we are very slowly, there's folks like us who

are awakening to that realization that that's, that's actually not how it is.

And we're starting to live this way.

And it does feel like a rebellion.

And it does feel like we're living outside of the Norman.

Yep.

Some people might look at that and have their own very intense feelings

about that, but that's not my business.

, that's their.

My job is to live in the way that serves my highest good.

Yes, absolutely.

And you know, I've had a really interesting, this is a little bit off

track, but I think it's important to mention because I know so many women,

and actually many of my clients who deal with this too ha as someone who has

chosen consciously and made us, you know, concerted effort to not have children.

Yeah.

Man, there is so much backlash.

Yeah.

And that really like.

Triggers people in a huge way, and I'm, it's mostly the last, I'd

say probably eight years or so, maybe seven, eight years that I

have kind of been like, whatever.

Like if you're, that's your deal.

Yeah.

Like, I'm not making any judgements on what you've chosen for yourself.

This has nothing to do with you.

Like Yep.

Whatever.

If it upsets you, I'm sorry.

Like, you know.

Mm-hmm.

can't help that.

. Yep.

You're on your own.

Well, but it's a really interesting thing because I, it's this really huge

step and sort of statement mm-hmm.

that says, I am gonna go against every societal norm, cultural, familial norm.

Yep.

And make a choice, because I know that this is the right.

Thing for me.

And I know it's not gonna be

easy sometimes too.

Yeah, that's right.

That's right.

And you know what I had, I, I grew up knowing from the time I was a

very little girl, that I wanted kids.

This was not something that I was like, oh, you get married

and then you have babies.

And I'm like, I don't know.

That's what you do.

That's not how it was for me.

. Yeah.

I will say though, that there were other things in my life where that was the case.

And when I got a divorce, my entire immediate circle of

friends evaporated instantly.

I, at first, I, I couldn't believe it.

I was absolutely shocked.

And then later I looked back and I was like, you know what?

I wonder if some of these folks were thinking that like this kind of liberation

was catching , and you know, if some of them weren't a little tiny bit jealous.

because they weren't happy in their lives.

Yeah.

And the choice that I made was triggering in some way for them.

And again, mm-hmm.

, that's not my business.

I just have to do what's what serves my highest good and trust

that that's gonna serve the highest good of everybody else too.

A hundred percent.

And I will throw this extra little comment about this in because I think

that it's, well, it's just something I see all the time, and it ties into that.

People pleasing too.

Mm-hmm.

when it comes to food choices, like there's a, I think it's Dr.

Wilco had a great quote recently.

He said, avoiding foods that don't agree with you.

isn't being restrictive.

It's self-respect.

Yes.

And so many people that I work with really struggle with the social aspect

of, you know, I have people who are severely gluten intolerant or have.

autoimmune disease, and they really need to be avoiding certain foods.

They know they feel better when they do.

Yeah.

But because they're in social situations, those are the times when they really

struggle to draw those boundaries.

Or just ask the server for what they need or stand up for themselves,

because they either have friends who give 'em a hard time about it.

Mm-hmm.

, or they just are worried that they're gonna be that person, that high

maintenance person, and be perceived as being, you know, picky or entitled.

, trust me.

Like typically if it's, if they're worried about that, they're not a picking

titled person No.

By nature or they wouldn't even cross their

minds.

No, but I think that it's a really good example of just saying, look,

this doesn't work for my body.

Mm-hmm.

. And I am not going to eat it cuz it doesn't work for my body.

And whatever else, you know, everyone else wants to do is up to

them.

Yep, yep,

yep.

But it's really true.

Like, oftentimes I will see people.

you know, as they go through this journey of making shifts with the

way that they eat, incorporating movement better self-care, et cetera.

Mm-hmm.

, prioritizing, sleep, whatever, you know, eliminating alcohol or reducing it from

their lives, like the social structure around that can start to get shaky.

It can shift drastically.

And so I think that's another aspect where this kind of work that you

do could be really, really helpful because I think that, mm-hmm.

, you know, as humans like.

survival is being a part of like being in community.

Yeah.

Like there's a survival instinct there.

Yeah.

Right?

Mm-hmm.

, and if we start to see our community mm-hmm.

or a support

system mm-hmm.

potentially falling apart or losing as parts of that, or individuals,

whatever that might look like mm-hmm.

, that can feel really, really scary.

And I, you know, it, it's not uncommon that that will be the breaking

point for someone where they're like, I just can't, I can't do this.

Yeah.

Because on that subc.

Neurological level.

It's like, oh my god.

like, yep, I might die

. Genevieve Joy: Yeah.

Yeah.

It can feel like that.

Yeah, it absolutely can feel like that.

And here's what I'll say about entitlement.

I am entitled to live in a body that feels fully healthy.

Amen.

Thank you very much.

I am entitled to that.

And you are not entitled to tell me how, what's.

how that looks.

Yeah.

Right.

You're not entitled to do that.

And I'll tell you this conversation too, around like eating and food and

all that stuff came up in my life a lot.

I, so I'm severely gluten and dairy intolerant.

And I also, I just choose not to drink.

I mean, I've you know, I've told you my story about I've n just

never lived inside a normal body.

And for me, I just like, I don't want it on purpose.

Put things in my body that I know are not nourish.

So I just make, that's the choice that I make no judgment for anybody else.

But my ex-husband is a raging alcoholic, had a huge problem with that.

And he'd wanna trap me along to his little business things, and I'd get my little

glass of ice, tea or water, whatever.

Nobody knows what's in there.

And he would get furious with me, be like, you're making

everybody else uncomfortable.

And I'm like, I don't . Okay, well you're not.

. It's not my deal.

It's not my deal.

Right.

It, you know, but it made him uncomfortable because it pointed

out the ways that he cannot say.

. Jeannie Oliver: Exactly.

And he knows that it's a shift he wants to make.

Yeah, yeah.

Or needs to make, didn't wanna make mm-hmm.

he needed to do and hit on that.

But they don't want to, or they're not ready.

And so that's often when people will start to avoid us or give us a hard time.

Mm-hmm.

. And again, we don't have control over that, that's

their emotional work to do.

Yep.

And like, let's just be honest.

. Okay.

When you start to do real healing work, yeah.

Some folks in your life might have a problem with that.

Yeah.

And it might mean that you are no longer an energetic match for those people.

Yeah.

If you are going to insist on being an energetic match for them, you

might go backwards in your healing.

Yeah.

That might happen for you.

So putting it, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

. So again, the degree to which you are going to prioritize your own wellbeing

is the degree to which you will be well.

there it is.

We can be done Now.

I'm actually gonna

write that down.

, the degree to which you will prioritize your own

wellbeing.

Mm-hmm.

is the degree to which you will be.

Well, it's just true.

It's the

degree to which you'll be Well, I'm so

quoting you on that . I love it.

Yeah, and I think the flip side of that, that's so exciting,

Genevieve, that I see in you.

I'm sure you've seen this with clients too, when we actually start to make

those choices unapologetically.

Mm-hmm.

, and we just say, this is what I'm doing because this is what serves me well.

This is what I need.

Yeah.

It actually empowers those people in our lives who are meant to be in our lives.

Yes.

Who are healthy, energetic matches for

us to build.

Yes.

I could do that too.

That's exactly.

, right?

Mm-hmm.

. It gives them permission somehow to be like, you know, , I could do this.

You can do this.

We all have a right to take

good care of ourselves.

That is such a great point.

Because you know what if inside us, I think especially as women, we do have

this desire to do for others and to heal.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

Well, here's the thing.

It's this both situation, okay?

You only have authority over yourself.

So when you reclaim that authority fully and you start doing things that

are only right for you, you allow other people to heal because you

become a beacon of hope for them.

Yes.

And they say to themselves, oh my God, I didn't even know that was

possible, but she's doing it, which means I must be able to do it too.

And look what happens.

And you allow, you create the space and the process for which

other people can rise up as.

Yes.

This is if you wanna actually help people, you, you do it by helping

yourself and like, don't be shy about it.

Tell people Yeah.

And let 'em see and they'll come along with you.

That's how we actually do the real work.

It's not this other business.

It's not this people pleasing.

It's not this self-sacrifice that ain't it.

This is how we do it.

Yes.

You prioritize yourself and your wellbeing because it's the only

place where you have authority.

Mm-hmm.

. And you watch all the people come along with you.

yeah, yeah.

It's so powerful.

So . Wow.

This has been a great conversation and I learned so much and I'm super excited cuz

I'm gonna schedule a session with you.

I really wanna do this and Oh, I'd love to have you.

Yeah, and like I say, we'll circle back and, and we'll do

another episode at some point.

We'll talk about it and, and You know.

Yeah.

Before and afters.

Yeah.

Right.

, Jeannie Oliver: You briefly mentioned your

can find you, how they can work with you.

And of course, in the show notes, I'll include all of your links to

your website, social, et cetera.

But

. Genevieve Joy: Yeah.

Give us a down low.

Awesome.

So in a one-to-one container, I work with women who have one very specific

problematic pattern that they know this thing has gotta go now or something

bad is going to happen for me.

The container for that is called the Quantum Healing Intensive.

It's an eight week container where we focus on healing the source of that

problematic pattern, your blocks, to getting what you wanna have instead,

and then moving you forward by taking brave action so that you can

get away from who you used to be.

Step into that new reality of who you want to become so that we permanently

move your life in a new direction.

And then my self-paced course is called Warrior Woman University, where I teach

you how to do that process for yourself, how to do that investigative work and

really get curious about your life.

Phase one is learning about how you created the situation that you are in

now, so you can learn how to create a new one and stop creating this one, right?

It it's like getting the owner's manual to your own.

And then in phase two, we learn the ins and outs of the quantum healing process.

How does this thing work so that you can use it with total authority.

And then in that also you find those self-guided self-healing audios so

that you can have that experience of a one-to-one healing without

the actual one-to-one healing.

And then it's like you train yourself to do it.

So once you know the process, you don't need the audios anymore.

You can do it for yourself anytime you want.

And then in phase three, we are expanding your capability to receive

the life that you desire by doing things like neutralizing the concepts of

pleasure and desire and self-sacrifice.

Mm.

Right?

Mm-hmm.

so that we can actually make big changes and hold on to them over the long term.

And then phase four is like, okay, now we're getting down to business.

It's about learning how to take action and brave new ways.

In a way that actually gives you more energy than you put out.

So you're never feeling depleted.

We're never just using willpower.

That's not a thing.

Right.

And we are being brave.

We are doing new things right.

So it's all of that together.

And then very strategically placed throughout the course are constitutional

healings where we help you heal all the major negative emotions from your past.

We help you integrate your conscious, unconscious and higher conscious minds.

This is most people's, one of their favorite ones.

So there's no resistance anymore.

Those three aspects of you are all working together as one unified

body to help you move you forward in life and heal in, in very.

Profound ways.

I think there's six guided constitutional healings that we do throughout the course.

Plus that, and then there's monthly live calls.

So it, that is my digital baby.

I am so proud of it.

I can't even tell you.

. Yeah, and uh, you know, the, the healing, I'll just tell you

one quick story of this client.

One of my favorite clients, her name is Cynthia.

She and I worked together in the one-to-one Quantum Healing

Intensive a year or so ago.

It was over a year, I guess it was a year and a half.

And we were working on a specific pattern related to relationships.

And then I knew she had some big health challenges.

I know that in the past she had dealt with leukemia, but we didn't

really get into the depths of that.

And then when I created Warrior Woman University I called her up and

asked her if she wanted to be one of my beta testers, and she agreed.

Well, what she didn't tell me then, which was, it was just a year ago

from now, was that she had just been diagnosed with end stage.

And her doctors told her that she had about 30 days to live

and that she should call hospice.

But she just knew in her heart that her life wasn't over and she felt like

she was being given an opportunity with Warrior Woman University to do

this deeply healing work for herself.

And it was a gift that showed up, like just when she needed it.

So, I mean, man, she dove in head.

First, and she just made this big commitment to never ignore or numb

herself to any challenge or big emotion that came up in her life.

And one year later, this was about a month or two ago, she sent me

a Voxer message and said that she just returned back from the hospital

after undergoing extensive testing.

And even though she stopped all medical treatment, her leukemia was totally gone.

That's no cancer anywhere.

And like I'm thrilled for her.

Like, this is amazing.

Right?

And also I'm not, , this is work that works when you are fully

committed to doing the work.

And she was, and that's, that's why this happened for her.

You get to make miracles.

If I mean it, it's, I know it sounds like crazy and wacky, but like there

is a way to make magic in your life and I, and I, I found it and I did it,

and I can show you how to do it too.

It's incredible.

Let's do it.

I love

it.

Awesome.

Well, thank you so much for joining me and sharing us with us today.

And like I said, everybody, you can find Genevieve's information in the show notes.

Go check out her work, check out Warrior Women University and her one-on-one

work, if that rings your bill.