Peter Lord, acclaimed songwriter and founding member of The Family Stand, joins Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelley to discuss his powerful new solo project Songs From The 8th Dimension. He unpacks the evolution of his single “Boom,” born from a TV musical and transformed into a bold statement on internal struggle and social commentary. From shaping modern R&B to the power of song structure, Lord offers a deep dive into the art and soul of songwriting.

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They can have a go at going.

Yeah, they have a go at go.

They can name with the.

The Billboard songwriter of the year.

So exactly what year was that?

That year?

92.

Okay.

Yeah, it's still going strong.

Coming out with your solo album.

I'm the LeBron James of funk.

Yes, that's right.

Yeah.

And you could still take him to school, right, LeBron?

Exactly, exactly.

I could still score 25 and get 10 rebounds.

I still get a triple double.

Okay.

Yeah, that's.

Hi, this is Peter Lord and I'm happy to be here on Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelly.

We're in store for a great chat right now with the premier songwriter, producer, screenwriter, director.

He's got a brand new single out which is really smoking.

It's coming out officially July 4th.

We've heard it, love it.

And the new album coming out in August.

He's also a founding member of the band the Family Stand.

Massive hits this guy has written.

We welcome finally to Musicians Reveal.

Peter Lord.

How you doing, brother?

I'm good.

And you, Joe?

Nice.

Nice to hook up with you here.

No doubt.

Yeah.

I mean, it's great that, that you've got new.

New music out.

Boom.

July 4th coming up.

I'm sure you've been asked about that.

Tell us about initiating this song and choosing as the first single off the upcoming album.

Well, it was actually part of a TV musical project actually I was working on.

And just want to mention, also featured on the song is this great singer and actress named Dede Dion, who actually was a co writer also.

And I was working with her on a project that was going to be a television musical project.

That will still happen eventually.

But as I know the difference between.

Or learned.

Well, I knew already the difference between film and television and music.

You know, even.

Even when they say, yes, it takes five, it takes five or six or seven years, you know.

Yeah.

So it's the whole thing.

So that song and some of the songs were originally part of that, but as they were about to happen, that didn't happen.

And then so in the process, I decided that I would do some remixes and rearrange some things, get it mastered and put it out.

And then I said, well, you know, I have some things here that I think are our album of material and it can serve the purpose it originally had, but also another purpose and just boom.

As a song.

Even though this.

That.

That series was called.

It's called Love Junkies.

It's about people in an addiction treatment program, and so they use songs to.

To deal with their addiction Triggers.

Right.

But the lyrics of the song not only connected to personal.

That.

That point where you kind of crossed that line and knew you needed help or things went too far.

I. I realized in this.

At this point in time that not only could it relate to personal journey, but also the social upheaval we're having in the world.

Right.

In this country at this point, you know.

Yeah.

A lot of people hurting and don't know where to steer the ship in their own lives.

Yeah, exactly.

It just all went boom.

Thank you.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Living in.

Unfortunately, it's.

It's timely.

Yeah.

The only saving grace.

I always try to tell my wife we live in a state and you live in a state and you're from a state, same state I live in now.

Which is like a little bit open minded.

Yeah, well, yeah, we have.

There's always an oasis in the midst.

Of, you know, right.

Of the desert or whatever's going on.

But.

Yeah, yeah.

So you're in Southern California now.

But let's get back to those early days in Brooklyn.

You were born in Brooklyn?

Yes.

Yeah.

Tell us about your first introduction to music.

That you really got into it or did it take a while?

Oh, no, I got into it.

I mean, I knew I always wanted to be a writer and at first started writing poetry and then knew that I always heard melodies with that poetry and it kind of related.

And I knew by the age of 13 I wanted to write songs.

And.

And often the story that I tell is just.

And I feel like I grew up in an era that, you know, every person who grows up think they were in the best era of music.

But I don't know, late 60s, early 70s, it's hard to top that.

And the people who influenced me.

But then being kind of a bridge generation in a way.

You know, the end of the old school, the beginning of the new school in terms of thinking and leaving.

Being born in the end of the rock and roll era into the beginning of the hip hop era, and then the influences of hip hop and grunge and rock and just loving all that stuff kind of led me to a certain place stylistically.

Yeah, that was such a great time for music.

And, you know, funk's my number one music that I love.

The genre army of Funko.

Know, early 80s, up until the late 80s, going into the 90s.

But I tell a quick story.

The.

I lived in New York for three months of my life.

I was freshman year at nyu and in the dorm I lived.

I found out years later Rick Rubin was starting def Jam Records in our dorm.

Okay.

I said, I. I should have stayed at the school.

And finally.

Exactly.

I'm sure I wouldn't know who this guy was, but they did a documentary on it.

So that's him.

I try to offer him some pizza.

I could change the course of my career, right?

That's right.

Yeah, exactly.

Because I don't think he was.

And I think he finished.

But I don't know if that was his primary purpose because I think he set up DJ table in his dorm before his first roommate walked in the door.

Yeah, so.

But then you grew up.

What were you.

Do you listen a lot of radio in New York?

I listened to bls.

Were you like.

Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Bls.

Well, there was a story I told before in other circumstances, but I think I'll tell it now, actually.

I could say bls.

And really kind of I was.

I always had, maybe or knew I had a kind of artistic temperament.

But I jokingly say a lot of people say God brought them to music.

I can say the imaginary Satan brought me to music.

Because literally around that time, the scariest movie of all time came out, the Exorcist.

And I was a little, little kid, and I went to the movies and saw it.

So don't put my lovely late mother.

Bring up child services.

But I saw the Exorcist, okay?

And I was so freaked out by that movie, I couldn't go to.

I couldn't go to bed unless I heard some music, you know, go to bed.

Some songs and music.

And I was listening to bls.

And then I wake up in the morning thinking I wrote the Isley Brothers or Steve won his new song, It Wasn't Me, but at least it inspired.

Opened up my ear to things and.

And about 12 or 13, even though I played the upright bass in junior high school, but then knew I wanted to write songs, and that kind of, you know, led to, you know, really getting the music and knew I wanted to do it seriously.

That ended up going to Howard University as a music major, as a composition major.

And I said, if.

Well, if it's good enough for Donny Hathaway and Roberta Flack, I think it's good enough.

Yeah.

Tell us about the experience at Howard University.

What was that like in the program?

It was great.

I mean, the thing about Howard, there's institutions then and now who might have more resources or more money or whatever, but they don't have the history that's kind of in the walls of the university.

It's the walls of the art School and the music school.

There's just something special there and you can feel it in the music.

And when I was there, there was, you know, really a lot of, you know, great jazz musicians.

They were a little older than me, but.

But they were there still.

Like, Jerry Allen was still there and.

And.

And Rooney, the trumpet.

Wallace Rooney, yeah, he was there and.

But I wasn't a heavy jazz cat, you know.

They were practicing their scales.

I was practicing.

Practicing my Stevie Wonder imitation.

But it was still a wonderful environment.

Yeah.

Just so much history.

And you're amongst one of the alumni, so that's cool.

Yeah.

Let's get back to your band.

The Family stand with Sandra St. Victor, Jeffrey Smith and Jackie was later on of the project.

What was your first introduction to Sandra and Jeffrey?

How'd you guys hook up?

And a little background.

We were working on a group.

Jeffrey and I were working.

Producing a group in Dallas, the Mac Band.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

They had a big hit.

And we met Sandra through Lisa Fisher and she introduced us and they ended up that eventually we.

We had opportunity through Sylvia Row, Sylvia Rowan and Merlin Bob at Atlantic East West Records to produce a record and do kind of like a compilation album.

At the time, I think Jimmy and Jam and Terry Lewis were supposed to do an album.

They have different artists.

I don't know if they ever did it, but we were supposed to do that.

But then we knew We Want it ended up being that in my.

In the back of my mind, subtextually, was always, I really want to do a band type of scenario or a group type of scenario.

And though we had thought about different singers, Sandra and Jeff and I, there was this simpatico and bond and as we often call each other's, you know, musical soul mates, and we really were and are still.

And we're still close.

And then years later when, in a way, Sonja took a sabbatical, ends up, you look back in time, even though it wasn't any kind of thing.

She left the bed, which is know the circumstances, and she was going to do a solo album.

Then we met Jackie McGee and that was great also.

So we all.

We're all very, you know, tight in that sense.

And I thought it was really cool.

I. I came across.

I forget if it was on Instagram or something.

Sandra was promoting your single, which is really nice.

So you guys, like you said, there's nothing ever changed.

You guys are the best of friends.

Everybody in the group.

Yeah, we were.

We're still very close.

Yes.

Yeah.

Right off the bat, the first album Has a major smash, Ghetto Heaven.

Did you know that was going to be a big hit?

Did you have that feeling?

Well, my.

One of my best friends, or my best friend growing up was named Kenny Morrison.

Loved him very much.

He passed away very young actually, and.

But he'd heard the songs and that's the first song he said to me, oh, that's.

That one's a hit.

I was like, okay, Kenny.

So my Kenny Morrison, my brother forever, he called it.

So I said, well, maybe he's right.

Since, you know, maybe I was a little too out.

Most of my stuff then and now maybe been.

Was too weird for my friends.

I was kind of close.

Close to.

But they got that song, you know, so.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

And remix and.

And great video and everything.

You know, you were.

You were off.

Off to the races with that, right?

Yeah, to a certain extent.

I think it was still a different song for the time in the era.

And that was era still of Jerry Curls in a certain vibe.

And we were not that.

So we were definitely bringing in the 90s in terms of our vibe and tone and era and.

Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, you toured with the rest of the development.

They were kind of that vibe back then, right?

No, we didn't.

We didn't.

Because by the time we started really becoming a touring band, there was the rock elements in the group, the rock elements in the music, and the more eclectic, broader tone that we were working with had us actually reopened up for the Chili Peppers.

And we opened up.

We even toured with the Rollins Band for a second.

Henry Rollins.

Wow.

By the time we were doing Moon and Scorpio, that's when we really became a touring band.

Okay.

Yeah.

We kind of transitioned to the.

The R B two guys in a girl mode to.

No, we're gonna be a real kind of scenario.

And actually, our first album was.

Wasn't the one that had Ghetto Heaven on.

We had a different.

Slightly different name.

That was my awful idea.

It was called Yvonne Jeffries in the Stand.

It was a combination of my mother's name, Yvonne, and.

And Jeffrey was Jeffrey.

And then we put a saint over the stand and blah, blah, blah.

But we knew when we did the chain album that we were going to switch it up and have a vibe that was kind of semi like Sly Stone and the A R guy.

Merlin Bob said, oh, you kind of like the family stand.

And we said, we're glad we thought of it.

So that's how the name arose from that, you know, it really would have been the stand.

Right.

There was Ohio that had the name.

And then it was like, okay, yeah, you gotta.

You gotta check through the database, make sure nobody hit you with changing your name while you guys are going strong.

Right.

I had a question.

I don't know if.

When Sandra went solo, I went to a gig she opened up for the time at Tramps.

Did you.

Did you help her out on that?

On that gig?

No.

Okay.

I don't even remember that gig.

Because the funny thing is Johnny Kemp was singing background.

And she starts in.

In the second song.

She's looking around the stage, where's Johnny?

Where's Johnny?

She finally found out he was in the bathroom.

Didn't know the concert started, and he.

Ran up on stage.

So, yeah, that.

That was a funny moment.

You should bring it up to her.

Yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, you mentioned all the genres blending in.

How about the songs from the 8th dimension?

I'm sure it's a good mix of all the flavors that you're into, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

Just naturally.

I mean, I. I often say I grew up being disciples of certain songs, writers and a certain quality of songwriting and just that mixture of what as a kid I listened to combined with modern textures, that's where I'm.

Where I'm at and where I've always, always been.

And I think the one asset that I feel I've been fortunate to have the instincts for is not to be stuck.

And so this new album is not bringing back the 80s 90s funk or doing the Running man or New Jack swing.

Is not that.

Not that in the center of that anyway.

But.

Right.

And not to dog anybody whose vibe and energy is there, but I.

To me, great songwriting or songwriting, like the late Princey Jones said, you know, the.

The top on a certain level doesn't change.

It's the bottom.

The.

The beat, the tone, the textures, those might change.

But the importance of a song, at least for me, is always the quality of the song is the most important thing.

And I think what it is also is that what a great song does.

A great song, to me, is the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

And often you hear a lot of great singers who have a vibe and a lot.

A lot of artists, not the biggest ones, because the biggest ones still have this certain.

That they have the catchiness or whatever the songs that the listeners can get to.

But in terms of quality, quality, quality of a song, there's.

To me, the key phrase thought about that is structure is freedom in the sense that if you write a strong song, then it can really go any place.

So special guests or collaborators on the new record Songs from the Eighth Dimension.

Do you want to talk about some people on it?

Well, there's.

There's two featured guest vocalists who sing along with me on two of the songs.

There's Dede Dion Gibson, who sings also on Boom.

And Tara.

Tara Naomi sings.

There's a song that I wrote that she collaborated on called and the sun is a Dying Star.

That's the fifth song in the album.

So kind of a cool, I guess, focus type of number.

Acoustic guitar.

But you play just about everything, right?

I mean, I. I can no, but I can fake the funk and with the technology, it ends up being everything.

So I guess I play elbow now synthesize oboe.

Hey, do you have a quiet.

Do you have like multiple or is that multi track vocals on.

On Boom.

Boom.

Boom.

Well, Boom is the choir is actually a sample on Logic.

Okay.

All right.

So I didn't mean to like expertise.

Yeah.

So.

So it was just me and.

And Dee Dee singing on it.

I sing most of it, but then she comes in later in the song.

But there was a.

That choir effect that I put in later in a later mix.

The hits in the chorus, it just took it to another place.

Okay.

And though it's interesting, some people start to listen to it, might think of it always a gospel choir.

Gospel.

And if people know me, if I went to a church, it might blow up.

But no, I don't.

But it's not.

It's almost like visually in that song, I almost picture a choir of zombies.

You know, know, not wonderful, beautiful people in pretty white robes.

Because it's really speaking about the song.

A personal as.

As well as a social dystopia in a sense, if that makes any sense.

So.

So there's an irony to.

To that those chorus.

But hopefully it gives this depth, you know, to it.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a great song.

And we encourage our viewers and listeners to go to.

First of all, you can go to Peter Lord's Instagram page and.

And interact and see what's the latest with his ongoing Spotify, Amazon, whatever.

People download their digital things, right?

You have all the links up there, right?

Yes.

Official be will be released July 4th.

Yeah.

Okay.

The single boom.

And August 29th, I believe that songs from the 8th dimension.

Yes.

The album comes out then.

Yes.

Okay, great.

You.

You've also had a storied career as a songwriter and producer.

I mean, you got a lot of credits to.

To Your name and you know, a lot of applause.

You, you actually were named songwriter of the year one year from Billboard, right?

Yes.

92 or 91.

Yeah, I beat out this young writer named Prince, but it's there.

We don't want to talk about that.

But anyway.

No, no.

Was he from Minneapolis?

Yeah, I think so.

I think, yeah.

Very talented.

Cat.

That's right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Prince featured our show over the years.

So yeah, we had a, we had a relationship with him.

So yeah, he sorely missed.

Yeah, very much, Very much so.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, speaking of Prince.

Well, we can, we can go into that a little later.

I got a question about that.

But you kick started Paul Abdul's career with some smash songs, Vibology.

I, I, I never get tired of that.

Thanks.

Well, I don't know, I don't, I don't know if we kick started it, but we, we, we definitely after she had to, she had super big hits and her biggest hits, you know, was straight up and, etc.

But the album Spellbound we did with her was a great opportunity for, for us and I think it also opened up different creative avenues for her also.

So, and we're, and we're close still also Paula Abdul and myself and, and so there's a lot of love there also.

And the songs I did with her like Blown Kisses in the Wind and, and Rush.

Rush.

Yeah.

And Biology and Promise Me on New Day was the number one, you know, song.

We were very fortunate about that.

But my personal favorite was was Blown Kisses in the Wind and Vibology.

They were both diff, kind of different songs.

Right.

So, so when all that success hits for you there in a different avenue of writing songs for other people, do the calls come fast and furious, people knocking on the door to write the next hit for them?

To a certain extent, yes.

We had a lot of opportunities after that and we also took that opportunity with the commercial success to, I guess you would say, go the opposite direction.

Not that we didn't feel that.

I mean, Moon and Scorpio to me was a commercial album.

But commerciality is a marketing question as opposed to a quality question often.

But we felt the balls and freedom to do Moon in Scorpio, which I think is our sergeant Pepper of albums in that sense.

And I'm very proud of that album to this day as proud of anything that I've ever done.

Wow.

So I think it's a special moment.

Yeah.

Sandra made a return right.

Later on.

Well, yeah, Moon Escorpio, we was, she was still.

That was right after the chain Album and the moon.

And Moon of Scorpio was at.

The Moon of Scorpio was right after we did Spellbound with Paula.

Right.

She came.

Actually.

And which has some really.

Some great songs in there, too.

There's a song that Jeff Ro called I thought we had.

But we got a lot of play on this one particular TV show.

So you think you can dance.

And then brought some attention to the group for.

For a minute there.

But there's some excellent songs on there.

You're right.

You know, had a lot of excellent stuff on the.

Also, I think.

And we were.

So, yeah, that was the end of that.

That's why I'm doing shows at home.

I did a show in a studio.

And then the Pandemic hits.

Like, well, what are we going to do next?

Can't go to the studio.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah, yeah.

And we said, just fire up the camera, do it at home and play the music.

We do it on mixcloud.

So.

Yes.

Yeah.

You got to navigate through everything.

We.

I mean, musicians, you guys went through hell with all that, Right, Right.

Yeah.

Well.

And.

Well, fortunately, unfortunately, also I was.

I was.

I was deep in screenwriter filmmaker mode, so I wasn't necessarily touring or so focused on music at that time, but, yeah, it affected everything.

Yes.

Getting back to Prince, I had a question, because sanctuary by Sandra St. Victor, you had a hand in a bunch of songs on that record, right?

Yeah.

Prince took an interest in various songs off the record.

Right.

I think that.

I mean, I didn't really deal with him so much.

He always avoided me.

But.

But he liked Jeff and Sandra.

But anyway.

But.

But yeah, he worked on that with.

With her, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

Soul Sanctuary.

Oh, yeah.

He did one song or one song, right?

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

You never met Prince or you met him in.

No, we met.

No, we worked on.

We worked.

There was a song that we did for Paula that he actually wrote, but she'd asked us to work with, do the vocal producing on it, so.

Oh, okay.

Was that you?

I think You.

Yes, yeah, I remember.

Yeah, the song.

You.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, yeah.

So where were you?

Up at Paisley park or you did it on California?

No, we actually.

We did it in a.

We were in California.

Yeah.

We just have the track, the vocal.

Right, right.

Yeah.

He just didn't like it because you.

You bested.

It.

Is because you.

You beat him out for the songwriter of the year.

Yeah, he was better.

Pitch was better.

Yeah, yeah.

He was bitter all these years.

Exactly.

Yeah, yeah.

So the new album.

Oh, I forgot that your buddy Corey Glover, he doesn't make an appearance on it.

No, no.

Oh, okay.

No, it was just.

I mean, just having those happen to be those songs that I had that I.

When I decided to put out a quote unquote.

Well, it is a solo album, but.

But it was just that stuff and I'm doing all the singing on there, so it's.

You know, I cover all the male singing.

Yeah, right.

You don't.

You don't put the falsetto in there.

The.

The what?

Falsetto voice.

I do have the falsetto in there, but.

But me, you know, just me and a.

And like I said, there was a Just couple.

There's a couple of duets on there, basically.

Or more feature.

I know one is more like a dude kind of like do it.

But you're here when you.

When you.

When you get the whole album.

Yeah, that's it.

We're going to be playing it from the get go.

Songs from the eighth Dimension.

And also, hey, I gotta ask you the difference.

I'm sure it's a huge difference.

Brooklyn, New York, moving out to Southern California.

You've been out there a while, right?

Yeah.

You have.

15 years.

Hard to believe, but the usual cliches.

You know, the weather's beautiful, the people, you know, they're very lovely in your face.

Actually, you know, I would say most of the people who are.

Who are not in any of the entertainment industries have been very nice.

And people who are in the.

In the entertainment industry have been entertaining.

Okay.

Yeah.

They'Ve been entertaining.

But I still live here, so.

I'm a Hollywood phony, too.

I love you all.

Yeah, you got to play the part.

Right?

Exactly.

I'll call you.

We'll meet.

I'll call you Tuesday.

Sure.

Right, right.

But public transportation is.

They don't have the New York subway system.

Exactly.

I just thought of a title for a new song.

But then Tuesday Never Comes.

All right.

But then Tuesday Never Comes.

Right.

Anyway.

Yeah, yeah.

So you.

You got a.

You got a piano in your house.

Right, I see.

Deep in your house.

My little electronic studio.

That's where the magic kind of happens over there.

Okay, so you write on.

Do you start on.

On keys?

Most of your songs generally, or, or a thought as I'm driving or washing the dishes or making a beat at the table as we're eating.

Eating dinner.

But yeah, so, yeah, just usually from the piano, but then acoustic guitar, I might mess around and then hear something.

Do you still go out to a lot of concerts to see some of your friends?

Not really.

Not really.

I never wasn't so much of a concert person, even when I was focusing folks on music all the time.

But I don't really.

I don't get out.

I don't get up much.

No, I don't.

I'm some concert.

But, you know, I've really been.

My head to a large extent these recent years has been so focused on the film and TV projects I'm developing.

I call them the Magnificent Eight.

You know, some of them TV series and some of the films and writing multiple episodes for the Things.

But I had been focused on that until the last set for the last end of last year when I knew, I said, okay, I'm going to put out an album.

And there's these songs here.

Though I might have been saving some of them for these, these.

These other film and TV projects.

I think they are timely and it's a good time to do it.

So that's.

I just kind of jumped in and on one level didn't realize it would become what it became, but it's become something and I'm happy about it, actually.

And it's kind of taking my mind off the other aspects of the artistic endeavors I've been involved in.

So you.

You're creating great works, art that you hope to.

To get filmed and stuff like that.

What was.

Is the fundraising out there is really tough.

Is it so competitive out on California?

Yeah, always.

It is, very much so.

And I think that I moved to.

I called H. Wood, figuring out it was a.

To be a H. Wood writer.

But then I realized once I got here, I'm not an H. Wood Hollywood writer.

I tended like all the.

You see, from all the most.

The filmmakers I love the most tend to.

Tend to be.

And the people who've resonated with the things I've created tend to be east of the Mississippi and across the Atlantic Ocean.

So, yeah, you know, so there's, so there's, you know, the projects are.

They're as eclectic as my music background and some of them are music related.

But some of them have nothing to do with music at all.

Okay.

In fact, and I almost made a point when I first moved out.

He had to play down the music side.

Oh, really?

Okay.

So I wouldn't get boxed into certain things, but they box you anyways.

Yeah.

It's all on the Internet, right?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

All right.

You follow the Knicks through the whole year.

Even though you move right, you still follow.

I'm a Nick fan.

I'm a Nick fan.

I'm a Nick fan.

What do you think they need beside a coach to take it one more step further?

Well, you know, I hear rumors.

Rumors today.

I just heard my Brooklyn accents.

I hear rumors today.

No, I hear rumors.

I heard rumors today about LeBron.

I'm like, see, it's typical of the Knicks to.

To get a great superstar.

Right?

He's at the.

As he's about to exit, so.

Right.

And he's.

I mean, he's still amazing, but it's not.

I don't believe it's the move, personally.

Yeah, I remember watching that.

That move when he went.

Went to Miami, watching that ESPN special, and that was a waste of time.

Yeah.

But, yeah, they get the coach and hopefully stay healthy, which.

Which they pretty much did most of the year towards the playoffs.

But, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, believe me, I could talk about basketball forever, but I. I do love the Knicks, so I did for a second, I. I say, joke me, The.

The Knicks are my wife.

I always love them, but I had a little affair with the Golden State warriors, and, you know, I love them, but I.

But I always come home, own the mommy, and that's the Knicks.

Right.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The last time, what, 73.

They won the championship.

Yeah.

We were little kids.

Yeah.

Oh.

Were we even alive?

Anyway, I was.

You're younger than me, so.

Yeah.

So controversy.

Yeah.

Oh, I. I wanted to ask you one of the writing credits.

You work with Desiree Coleman, right?

Oh, did you.

And you mean in the.

Desiree.

Desiree Coleman.

Oh, you didn't.

I did work with Desiree Coleman, yeah.

Once.

Early in her career.

Yeah.

Okay.

Because I went to see her at Mama I Want to Sing.

I forget the theater.

It was in New York somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, it was right after that, briefly.

We met and actually met Mark Jackson for a second.

But.

But yeah, we together.

Yeah.

Yeah, they were then.

They were.

I don't think they are now, but yeah, we worked for.

I don't know if their record ever came out.

I'm not.

I think it did.

I'm not sure, but that was a. Yeah, that was a while back.

What do you kind of.

And I first got together.

Yeah, right.

So everybody from the family stand.

The three.

Three members originally from New York.

No, Sandra's from Dallas, Texas.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

And now she lives Dallas.

Yeah, she's in the Netherlands.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't forget that Johnny Kemp story.

I told you.

Oh, no, I won't, I won't.

You mean.

You mentioned that.

You know, and singing the basketball.

I mean, one of.

One of the projects we worked on also that is one of my favorite songs that I wrote and we produced was on Tamiya Hill's Wife to me.

We did a song called Poetry.

Oh, Grant Hill's wife.

Grant Hill's wife.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yes, Poetry.

And after that, certainly after we did the song called He Is on Heather Headley, even though I stupidly did it under another name at the time, which was Joshua Nile, because I was going to try to play a trick on the industry.

Oh, I'm this young new hip hop producer.

And, you know.

But then when the song kind of became a hit.

He is.

They were looking for Joshua Nile.

So anyway, I said, no, it's.

It's me.

Yeah, yeah.

Try cashing the check for Joshua Nile.

Right, exactly.

Exactly.

You know what?

You know, you could do a student name.

They go to ascap, don't get me wrong.

Right, right.

How about hip hop artists?

Who are you influenced by in those early days of hip hop?

Actually, just as a.

Just the overall tone and aura.

Aura.

Because Ghetto Having was inspired by the.

That hip hop music of the late 80s, early 90s.

And my thought was, you know, loving the beats.

And I think for the time it was innovative to sing a song over one of those hip hop beats and then add a different element to.

And this.

And the song that we did also on Heather Headley, He Is was influenced by this.

This hip hop record, Broken Broken Language.

Was it my deep?

I think it might be my deep, but anyway, it was.

Yeah, it was.

Because the cadence of the chorus of He Is is like he is the mind protector, the door protector.

It was that kind of the blow killer, the boat, the bum bubba bum bum bum.

And they used this to that cadence of that.

It was taking that kind of hip hop rhythms, but giving it a melody and that tone of attack.

So in the.

In that sense, and even.

And in this new album too, with this.

This colors in the drums and the way they hit and textures that we are here, our ears are geared towards that.

That those tonal Textures of hip hop.

So it's in the music.

It's in the music on this new album also.

Except I mixed it.

I mix it with all these other elements.

Not trying to do that.

Just who I am.

Yeah.

So what do you got planned for July 4th?

Anything for the single.

I'm actually going to a family reunion.

But we do have a video coming out this direct.

This video content director named Rio I'm really excited about.

Oh, okay.

He did.

He's worked with Beyonce and did Coachella visuals and things like that.

So we have.

We will have a video that will be on my YouTube channel, Peter Lord.

And so things related to songs from the 8th dimension will be on there.

And hopefully we have that video soon.

Any day now.

Okay.

Yeah, we'll put that in the link of all the links in our description for.

For the interview.

So.

Okay.

Yeah.

By shortly after the fourth live, the videos and stuff should be.

Should be up.

So.

They're not up yet, but they will be.

Are you thinking of a record release party or something online for the.

The big August 29th for the album?

Not yet, but who knows?

Something might come up between now and then, but maybe we'll do something virtual.

But.

But no, we're just gonna.

We're really, really excited.

I'm really excited about the videos contest we hope to create with.

With Rio.

And Boom will be the first video would.

I think we're gonna do at least three things together from the album, so I'm excited about that.

So.

So back in the days of the family stand, that was the era of the remixes.

Everybody was so curly and.

Yeah.

Are you planning on doing any remixes for some of the tracks on your current album coming out?

Not really, but if anybody wants to do some remixes of the stuff, I'm very open.

There's a song that might be, I think, as of now, the second single called Go.

Okay.

On the album back.

It'd be subject to a real great remix, I think.

You know, Go in particular, I think could be.

They can have a go at going.

Yeah, they have a go and go.

Make a name with the.

The Billboard songwriter of the year.

So exactly what year was that that you.

92.

92.

Okay.

Yeah, it's still going strong.

Coming out with your solo album.

I'm the LeBron James of funk.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

And you could still take them to school, right, LeBron?

Exactly, exactly.

I could still score 25 and get 10, Rebo.

I still get a triple double.

Okay.

Yeah, that's.

Yeah, man.

You got to come back in the fall.

We talk about the whole record.

Oh yes.

Yeah, I'd love to.

Ready to come back and talk about.

I'm excited you and for others to hear what I'm doing.

What I'm doing.

Yeah.

Like I said before, I. I try not to stay stuck and I don't think about.

You know, but try to have a certain.

Though there is a certain.

The.

The thematic elements are the same, but the tone and textures are just now, I would say.

Right.

Yeah.

We're looking forward to hearing the singles.

Is awesome.

So starting off with a boom.

July 4th, get that new music from Peter Lord and August 29th songs from the 8th dimension.

Go to his Instagram page.

Updating that and YouTube page Peterlord with the new videos and visuals and everything.

So.

Hey, it's been an honor, man, having you loving your music over the years.

So.

Yeah, I appreciate you.

Thank you so much.

Thank.

Thanks to spend some time with us on Musicians Reveal and.

And we're excited about everything coming up this year with you.

Great.

Appreciate you.

All right, Peter, thanks.

Take care, Jeff.

Thank you.