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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show
that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with
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:the magic of movies.
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:Today we're discussing the three worst hip
hop movies ever.
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:We are three old heads who put their old
heads together to vibe on these films for
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:you.
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:I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,
longtime hip hop fan, and the most
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:important thing I learned from Master P is
to make him say, UNNNNHHHH
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:I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, long
time Hip-Hop fan, and I fairly recently
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:performed Parents Just Don't Understand at
a karaoke night.
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:Yeah.
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:Nice.
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:I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan.
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:And one of my favorite things to do is
watch clips of breakdancing battles.
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:I do it all day.
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:And I'm so excited for breakdancing to
premiere in these Olympic games in Paris.
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:Finally.
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:Yes, sir.
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:In this episode, we'll answer the
question, why?
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:Why?
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:Just why were a few of these movies, these
terrible films made?
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:This is gonna be fun.
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:Whoo
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:Get ready for some hot takes.
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:Yeah.
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:So, you know, if you listen to our
episodes and we give ratings at the end
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:of, you know, bring that funky flick back
or leave it in the vault.
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:There's a couple that were unanimous, not
too many and a lot of were unanimous in
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:terms of yes, bring this back.
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:These are a lot of really good films out
there, but there are a few that were just
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:Dreadful.
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:To say the least.
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:We're gonna rank these in order of three,
two, one.
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:So I think there's a few that we agree on,
but Boogie, would you nominate the third
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:worst hip hop movie film of all time?
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:You have a nomination?
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:a tough one.
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:See, the first one that came to my mind
was Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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:But, I actually, as bad as that movie is,
I actually do enjoy watching that movie.
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:So I'm not gonna nominate that movie.
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:Cause it gives me good laughs.
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:Good for laugh value.
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:So I will probably say...
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:I Got the Hook Up.
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:Hahaha
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:I don’t know.
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:I remember that one did go off the rails.
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:It lost.
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:Yeah, it was, it was, it was okay.
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:It was fun.
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:got a lot going on.
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:Ha ha ha.
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:it got to the point and then it got to the
end and the cops weren't who they said
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:they were.
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:And I'm like, what, what?
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:The weird chase, the weird car chase
scene, the random, what was it?
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:I don't even want to call it a brothel,
but like, his uncle turned into like a
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:club with all the strippers and stuff.
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:Like, what the heck?
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:It was like random, like it was random.
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:Like there's so much random.
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:parts in that movie that just didn't make
sense at all.
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:I mean, I think it was one of those
situations where like, cause Master P' had,
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:Master P’s money was long at that time.
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:So he probably was just like, yeah, I got
money.
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:I'm going to make a movie.
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:You know, dude had, you know, I remember
MTV Cribs, you know, he had like,
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:solid gold, you know, handle on his
toilet and stuff like that.
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:ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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:Solid gold like, you know, water faucets and stuff, like
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:Like you know, unnecessary stuff so he was probably like
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:Yeah I got money let me go make a movie real quick
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:I don’t know, but yeah, that’s probably gonna be mine.
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:This guy literally drove around tanks, probably like
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:diamond-encrusted tanks we talked about
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:It was, he did whatever he wanted
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:he wants to play
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:basketball for like the Houston Rockets.
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:It's like, yeah, he's in the summer league
team.
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:You know, he's like, what this guy,
whatever he wanted to do.
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:He was the one that we talked about.
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:He negotiated his contracts with those
record deals.
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:Like amazingly, like
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:getting such a huge cut of everything.
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:And then he had his whole family, Silkk
the Shocker and all these other Mystikal
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:all these guys making records and selling
tons and tons of albums back then.
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:He was printing money.
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:Yeah.
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:So that's why he made that film.
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:he started off independently selling them
out the trunk of his car.
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:So like he was making, he had no, like he
had no middle man.
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:Whatever he made, it went straight to the pocket
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:So you, you figured you go platinum, you
go platinum or almost a gold even, just
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:from selling out of your trunk with no
middle man.
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:Yeah.
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:You know, you saw the albums were selling
for, you know, the price of a regular
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:It wasn't like, you know, two dollars,
full length albums, you know, selling out
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:the trunk with no record label, no shady
contract in the middle, taking a cut.
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:Right.
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:You know, it’s like, that’s insane.
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:Like I tell people, I remember the very first time I heard of Master P
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:because I had.
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:I had one of my boys went to school out in
Ohio and he said, yo, yo, L gotta hear this.
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:There's this guy.
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:He just says, UNNHH and the whole crowd
goes crazy.
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:And I'm like, what?
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:That's it?
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:That's all he says?
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:Like, what else does he say?
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:He says other stuff, but like, that's it.
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:That's the catch.
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:Like the whole place gets crazy.
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:I'm like, okay.
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:So we go to a party or whatever.
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:He throws it on.
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:And I'm like, wow.
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:I couldn't believe it.
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:But yeah, but yeah, you know, he made a
movie and it was horrible, but you know,
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:no knock on him.
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:He's still cemented you know, in hip hop
culture as, you know, a legend in the
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:game, but that movie....ehh.
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:Hahahaha
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:But they also, like you said, they did end
up with a sequel also just because they
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:could.
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:Yeah.
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:Yep, yep.
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:Dyno Wright, do you have a nomination for
a third worst hip hop movie?
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:I was also gonna go with I Got the
Hook-up.
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:It had its moments, but as a film it
wasn't that great and then they had these
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:these like unsatisfying plot twists at the
end and so yeah, it was not that Not quite
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:Cinematic triumph, I'd say.
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:Yeah.
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:I mean, I did enlist in the No Limit Army,
but this was just against my morals.
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:Haha
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:Can you get a discharge from the No Limit
Army?
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:Hahahaha
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:I agree with, it had major flaws.
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:You know what movie really didn’t care as much for
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:and
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:it might be blasphemous a little bit because there’s such legendary people in it
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:Poetic Justice, because
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:Tupac.
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:his talents were kind of wasted because of
the role that he played and Janet Jackson
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:was a little bit demure in it and like, I
don't know.
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:It's one that I don't really go back that
often to watch or I really wouldn't.
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:And it's part of that was John Singleton,
right?
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:With this trilogy, it's kind of like, I
almost wish that it was done differently
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:or there was a different film in the mix
there.
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:Yeah, it didn't age well for me.
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:It didn't, I don't think, I mean it was
fine.
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:But when you, when you get your follow up
from Boyz n the Hood, it's difficult to
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:And it felt a little uneven and I probably
even said this in the episode we did, that
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:there was a better movie in here
somewhere, but it wasn't on the thing we
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:Yeah, I'm looking back at some of my
comments and it was like, like, was just a
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:little bit too much of just gratuitous
cursing and fighting for no reason, like
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:snapping and snapping back and forth and
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:It was a little bit bizarre.
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:Some of that you said it best.
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:It didn't really age that well.
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:And I think that's where I'm having that
contradiction in my head is like, we love
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:so much of Janet Jackson's life's work as
well as Tupac's.
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:And for this to be part of that, it's one
of those footnotes, I would think when
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:It's a minor footnote.
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:I won't go so far as to call it a blemish,
but there was something left there, left
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:Yep.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, let's get into some that we more or
less agree on in terms of being terrible
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:hip hop movies.
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:Number two on our list is Malibu's Most
Wanted.
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:If you remember my commentary on this one
from my original episode, I was
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:embarrassed to be a white guy and watch
this movie.
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:I was like, come on, you're disgracing our
entire race.
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:you
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:point, it was like, let's make a movie
about a white guy that talks, you know,
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:really urban fashion, almost like he's
Black.
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:And they even use the term that I can't
stand, you know, the term wigger.
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:And I'm like, it was just horrible because
this was after Eminem already came on the
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:So like, it was proven.
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:It's been proven time and time.
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:White guys can rap.
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:Yes, it is a very much.
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:Black predominantly, predominant genre of
music.
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:And however, I didn't get the point.
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:And they took liberties to also, you know,
misappropriate other cultures as well.
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:I mean, Kal Penn played a, you know,
generic Middle Eastern guy with all the
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:stereotypes.
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:I think there was Far Eastern stereotypes.
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:It was just terrible.
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:Jamie Kennedy had his moment of fame here
and there with the Jamie Kennedy
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:Experiment and everything.
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:But to make this film, I just, it was like
fingernails on the chalkboard throughout
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:the entire movie.
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:I was almost like watching it through
veiled eyes.
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:I'm like, please let it be over soon.
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:Yeah, it was a complete mockery to me.
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:Like, it was just hard to watch.
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:I mean, I had never even considered
watching that movie until we decided to
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:And after watching it, I was just like,
damn, now I know why.
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:Yeah, my whole intuition about the movie
was correct.
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:It was just a complete waste of my time.
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:And I'm like you, JB.
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:I love a good comedy.
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:I love a good slapstick.
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:I love, you know, satires, you know, don't
be a menace.
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:to south central while drinking your juice
in the hood.
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:You can even go back to things like
Airplane and Caddyshack.
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:Like classic, I love a good laugh, but
this didn't make me laugh.
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:It was so cringey.
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:It was so cringe worthy that I just, it
was hard to watch it.
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:you know, you take,
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:this film and just, I don't know whose
idea it was to put this out, but I don't
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:know.
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:I just, yeah, just bad.
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:Just bad.
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:I never thought I would talk about this
movie again.
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:Hahahaha
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:It's time to bring it out and flog it in
public.
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:8 Mile was released prior to this.
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:so listen, Eminem was huge and
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:the Beastie Boys
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:other like white rappers,
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:It was like, wow, a white guy is trying to
be a rapper like big deal.
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even a likable character.
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:It was like the father's not being
attentive and he's almost trying to have
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:affinity for hip hop culture.
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:I was just...
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:Yeah, it was not helping his political
campaign.
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:It was ridiculous.
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:Yeah, exactly.
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:Jeez.
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:it's one of the great wastes of comedic
talent on film.
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:Yes, and then Taye Diggs and Anthony
Anderson who are awesome and they're in
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:this movie and I'm like, I bet that they
regret being in it or they probably again
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:footnote very minor footnote that they'd
probably want to scratch scratch off.
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:Blair Underwood is in this, he’s very good
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:Regina Hall is in this, she’s very good
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:Ryan O 'Neill, Snoop Dogg, and yet...
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:They yanked some great talent into the movie
and completely wasted them.
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:Yeah, Nick Swardsen, Jeffrey Tambor And so
they've done so little with so much.
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:I mean, like the scenes with Taye Diggs in
them, I enjoyed watching him.
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:It was the one saving grace.
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:So I will say, yeah, I will say to a
certain point with him, I enjoyed watching
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:And I mean, he, I don't know, he might've
improvised some of that stuff, because I
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:don't see how the script could go from
what was going on to being, you know,
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:Ehhh.
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:The fact this movie was actually
profitable in the box office, which is
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commentary
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:It’s a sad commentary on our society or what we were thinking
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:What was our problem that year?
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:I would like to think we've evolved a bit
from then.
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:Don't watch that.
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:was not a good idea.
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:I don't know who thought that was a good
idea.
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:But again, except Jamie Kennedy had a
moment, he was able to make a film or, you
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:Went over like a lead balloon in my book.
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:And then the final one, number one worst
film is one that we covered fairly
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:And on Rotten Tomatoes, it got 0 % for the
critics rating and but 73 % for the
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:Ahhh man, state property, who wants to take
that and kind of speak to why that was so
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:State Property ooh-wee
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:Where do we start with that one?
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:When did State Property come out again?
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:So picture this, the year is 2002.
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:Roc-a-Fella Records is pushing millions of
records out there.
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:I mean, the only other people that are
probably, other MCs that are probably
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:pushing out as much music as him is
probably Eminem and Nelly.
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:Jay -Z and the crew decide they're gonna
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:put out a film, a crime drama based on the
group state property out of Philadelphia,
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:helmed by the great MC.
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:Beanie Sigel was a great MC, you know, and
his crew, the Young Guns and Chris and
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:Neef and Oschino and Sparks.
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:And well, Freeway wasn't in the film
because Freeway was being detained at the
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:moment.
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:No more to talk about that.
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:But this film...
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:I mean, I did go watch the movie when it
first came out because I was a Roc-a-fella
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:fan boy.
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:I'll admit it.
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:You know, I was there from where
Roc-a-fella started and it took off and
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:I was, you know, I followed them and any
songs, any albums that came out, boom, if
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:you were a DJ playing Roc-a-fella records,
like I could play a whole set in a club or
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:in a party of nothing but Roc-a-fella
music the entire night and the whole crowd
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:would jump and stay on their feet the
entire night.
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:With that said, this movie.
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:didn't age well for me.
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:I enjoyed watching it when I was younger
and watching it as an almost 50 year old
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:man, I didn't quite, I mean, I knew what
it was about because it was the street,
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:the street, life I get it.
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:I mean, I grew up in the hood, so I get
where it was coming from, but it was one
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:of those things like, why?
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:Why was this movie made?
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:And, and...
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:I guess at the end of the day, it was
probably one of those those where Jay and
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:Dame were like, why not?
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:Let's do it.
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:We got the money to fund it.
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:And they unloaded State Property on the
masses.
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:And here we are in 2024 with it as our
number one worst hip hop film.
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:Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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:DynoWright, You want to add to,
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:So if Malibu's most wanted was who thought
this was a good idea, the question for
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:state property was just because you can
doesn't mean you should.
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:This movie shouldn't have been made.
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:It didn't have a plot.
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:It didn't have character development.
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:It didn't have any sort of dimension to
it.
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:And yeah, it was very easily my worst hip
hop movie ever made.
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:Yeah, and as we get to be our age, I guess
we get a little bit more sensitive to the
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:violence.
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:And it was just senseless violence, like
one after the other, after the other.
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:Pointless.
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:Yeah, it was just tough to watch.
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:You know, it's tough to watch when all
you're just seeing is a lot of killings
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:and brutality one after the other.
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:And you don't really know the entire
backstory.
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:You know, are we supposed to be rooting
for Beans?
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:You know, played by Beanie Sigel Why don't
we?
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:didn't get the basic characters like in
any sort of correct way.
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:shows up and starts killing people and
trying to run the town.
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:And, that's pretty much it.
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:compare the character of Beans in State
Property to Nino Brown in New Jack City.
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:You see the difference.
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:I mean, we know Nino Brown was a complete
evil guy, but
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:he was more dynamic.
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:There was facets to him.
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:We saw him not necessarily doing all bad.
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:So in certain instances you're like, all
right, maybe he's not all bad.
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:Whereas like with Beans, it was just like
one -sided, you know, two -dimensional,
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:you know, yeah.
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:yeah, there's senseless violence and then
there's senseless violence with no point
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:that that moves the story along.
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:Very sort of, let's just shoot everybody.
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:Right.
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:I mean, everything about the film sense,
there's senseless violence and there was a
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:lot of like senseless nudity.
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:I mean, yeah, I mean, nudity would attract
a lot of the viewers because, you know,
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:people, you know, attracted to the nudity,
but it's like, it didn't really have
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:anything to do with the storyline, which
is like, wait, there's a naked woman and
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:okay, all right.
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:Well, it's just one of those things like
you said, it's just because you can do it
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:doesn't mean you should do it.
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:It didn't add.
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:to the story.
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:And then Jay -Z's talents were wasted in
the film.
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:That was one of our takeaways.
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:He had just such a brief role and he was
mostly mumbling in it.
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:And it was like, wait, Jay -Z, you know,
he's on the screen.
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:It's like, he's just mumbling.
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:And what did he say?
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:I was like, come on.
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:mumbling for no reason and no point to it.
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:Nothing that would give you any sort of
sense of what the character is.
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:Like, you just, just, let's have him
mumble.
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:It's like they pull it out of a hat.
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:Like, this guy is going to be a mumbler.
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:Why?
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:I mean, I don’t know if this film was rushed
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:to the theater.
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:because there was some other deadline.
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:Roc-a-Fella was ruling the roost.
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:They were doing everything.
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:So maybe there was so much focus on
pumping out the music that maybe this was
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:just a side project and like, Hey, we want
to get a film out there and let's just do
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:this and not spend time on the character
development and the plot.
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:and utilizing Jay -Z's charisma, but it
all just fell flat.
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:Yeah, but they all wore Roc-a-wear
clothing in the film.
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:So it was a commercial.
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:It was a big commercial.
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:the most violent, brutal commercial for
Roc-a-wear you would ever see.
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:women, it's like they took like, cause you
know, like when you're filming the the
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:music videos, they have these same women.
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:They look exactly the same as they were in
the movie.
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:But because it's a music video, it's all G rated,
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:there are swimsuits and things.
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:So well, we could have the same music
videos, but we don't have to have them
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:Yeah, like, ooh, it was like a 12 year old
boy like wrote this movie.
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:Yeah.
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:Boobies everywhere!
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:Yeah, yeah.
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:Yet there was a sequel in this too somehow.
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:Yeah
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:Because they had the ability to do it
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:Because you could.
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:I mean, a lot of people did rush to see
this, so they probably funded itself.
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:The sequel was, the
sequel has even, has more holes in it than
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:Swiss cheese.
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:Hahaha
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:If you watched the second one, you'd rank
this is one.
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:The second one would be like, you know, 0
.9.
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:Hahahaha
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:It's like, second one's worse.
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:You can’t imagine.
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:I think DynoWright, you made a point
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:when we were talking about this film, it was like
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:Dame Dash was the only one putting forth
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:some sort of effort hahaha
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:in the acting.
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:He was trying, everyone else was kinda going through the motions.
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:Certainly not the type of rapper turned actor
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:progression we’ve seen from like, Will Smith or Queen Latifah
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:Even Ice Cube No, we just saw like, yeah,
no acting.
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:No acting was happening here.
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:It's a shame because I absolutely loved
this movie when they first come out.
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:Yes, State property, woo!
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:And now it's like, ooh.
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:We've all matured and become more refined
in our tastes, but woof, you are so right.
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:I know I still own the DVD somewhere.
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:I know I have it.
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:I'm going to come across it.
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:It's probably in my storage unit.
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:I'm going to come across it.
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:I'm pretty sure of it.
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:Both of them, one and two.
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:Because a lot of the films we cover, like
I like to pass down to my son and like
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:tell him like, hey, check, like when we
first watched do the right thing for the
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:podcast and like, I was like, you got to
see some of this.
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:It's a great, great cinematography, great
storytelling.
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:It's racial tensions, which are still
prevalent today.
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:It’s in the news all the time,
unfortunately, but like, yeah.
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:And then, you know, Boyz in the Hood and
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:Even some of the smaller films have some
more redeeming qualities, even if they're
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:not to that level.
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:But when I was watching this a little
while ago, I'm like, I see my son like
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:over there and he's kind of like doing his
own thing on his device or whatever.
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:And I'm like, don't even look up.
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like, you don't want to subject them to
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:We can spend this time in better ways.
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:State Property...is a no-go.
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:Yeah, they should stay in the confiscated
property locker.
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:Yeah right.
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:People, what did we miss?
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:You got a worse movie?
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:Because there's probably, I'm sure there
are worse movies than we got on this list.
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