In this episode, I speak with Karen O’Brien. Karen is a Professor in the Department of Sociology and Human Geography at the University of Oslo. Karen’s research emphasizes the social and human dimensions of climate change and implications for human security. Her recent books include You Matter More Than You Think: Quantum Social Change for a Thriving World and Climate and Society: Transforming the Future. Karen has been named by Web of Science as one of the world’s most influential researchers of the past decade. In 2021 she was co-recipient of the BBVA Foundations Frontiers of Knowledge Award for Climate Change. Karen is currently co-chair of the International Science-Policy Platform for Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES) Transformative Change Assessment. We discuss:

🥥 How it's not just the actions that we take that matter, it's how we engage with the system as a whole in everything we do;

🥥 How thinking in terms of quantum social change means appreciating we are all entangled, connected, and a (bio-)collective;

🥥 How everything has agency and thus we can move beyond linear, problem-solution models of thinking and action.

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