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The Beatles: Get Back is a 2021 documentary series directed and produced by Peter Jackson. It covers the making of the Beatles' 1970 album Let It Be
Featuring JACK HUGHES of THE GRAND UNION, the lads sat down to discuss the ins and outs of Peter Jackson’s eye opening documentary into the trials and tribulations of the boys from Liverpool.
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hello jack have we got you there hey hamish how are you doing man
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yeah man i'm doing well now did you watch the the recent beatles documentary the get back
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i have mine i've watched it a couple of times there's just a barking dog behind me
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ringo shut up yeah man i've watched it and i love it absolutely love it
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now is your dog actually named ringo no it's not it's not even my dog and the owners will be very
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disappointed with me when they see i've stolen their dog oh man but um now what did you what did
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you you being from liverpool and and a liverpool patriot what did you think of
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the documentary do you think it like did justice or it's uh you know missed its mark a little bit
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to be honest not for me i just see it as a big love story and how for the last
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however many years like the beatles have spoken about in such such high regards around the world
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rightfully so and especially being from liverpool you see them as four lads from liverpool who went
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and conquered the world but when you're thinking about get back i think it's important if you get
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at got us there and from like:02:25
when revolver was released the beatles decided they were going to stop touring
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and that was massive because and i understand why they did it because sound systems weren't where
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they were at beatlemania which was too much and they needed a break and that's when they decided
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to become a studio band and then obviously after that they created apple corpse which
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was a brilliant idea at the time and they weren't making iphones just yet that's a different one
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they made that and then obviously everything is monetized and not not only looking after their
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own careers looking after other people's careers and the business side of the business and then
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unfortunately uh their longtime manager brian epstein died literally the same year and and
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obviously he was spearheading everything and then he was gone there george called him mr epstein
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in the show their leaders gone and then they all have to step up so it's the conflicts
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you can already see things on the horizon of challenges that they were going through that later
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on you find out you know really why the greatest band of all time could be no more and then for me
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e of the biggest points is in:03:45
been nice but paul got money to linda eastman and john got money to yoko ono who is the most
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divisive and polarizing figure in pop culture history someone uh to this day there's bands
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right now who have you know wives girlfriends boyfriends husbands maybe a little bit too around
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maybe a little bit too involved and taking that band member away from the process and we call this
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the yo oh no effect and then we get that hold it there jack this is for all the musicians out
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there and this is for all you guys that are musicians but know somebody who is
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now if you know somebody who's a musician and they're experiencing the yoko ono effect they've
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got a girlfriend who's doing you know getting way too much in their business call the yoko
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ono helpline do them a favor and call the yoko i know help one for them or do it yourself cheers
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nice man i i have to say the one thing that i i took from the start of watching get back
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is is i found it i found it exceptionally like to be honest boring for like the first hour because
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you're kidding me only because i'm used to the way that they structure documentaries like
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okay i don't know what i mean like where it's like here's something he's something
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he's something and that just a whole bunch of [ __ ] at you in a bunch of different cut footage
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but then after about after about an hour or so i realized no this is the this is the
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[ __ ] documentary like they're just drinking it as if there's a camera in the room like any
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band around the world and then i then after i got that i was just like oh man they're just
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they're writing [ __ ] great songs but they're healing as well like they're just hanging out
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i think i think it's a funny thing because it removes the mythology of the beatles because
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it's not it goes from being here john paul george and ringo full that's from mother
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going on to take the states and you know it's the mythology around them and
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people bands for the first time chris cornell saying he felt like john lennon was his dad
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because he just kept listening to the beatles all the time and all these artists that have been
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inspired the way pop culture changed because of them and then you're just watching them
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decide what they want to have for the lunch is is crazy yeah but the the the four human beings
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we've we've made them these mythical creatures you know yeah they're masking for the cup of tea
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but i understand what you're saying because as as a documentary you just you straight into it
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it's it's them sat in a big you know sound stage yeah just there being there but what like how
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how do you find the beatles individually what do you think about the beatles individually
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i think i think like as as people i i i realize paul was way more involved as a i i always thought
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it was john lennon who runs the band and they have that little conversation but secretly i think it
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was paul that was running the band from like because i think paul was always doing the back
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he was the hr part of the band right he was the one who was doing like getting picking out
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who's going to be around the band and then john lennon may have just been the force being like
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nope that's what's happening boys and putting his foot down on certain ideas and being very you know
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um yeah you know forceful about saying nah this is how we're doing things but i think paul was
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out there talking and you know doing all the and i and i think what was weird too is i i figured out
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that paul was much more aware of his position in history than i actually anticipated okay
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did you realize that like paul at that time they they they weren't just um like
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you know they they weren't just going through [ __ ] and like this was their reality
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like paul's a very rare like aware that they they are the biggest band in the [ __ ] world to be to
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be a fly in the wall literally in history that's that like i i i've got to give it to peter jackson
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wrong like i understand uh michael is it lindsay hogg the director the guy who's we're gonna make
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a tv show it's gonna be a tv special that guy yeah and he didn't even realize it but he was
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he was creating content well obviously he they have the show in mind it's gonna be an arm and
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it's gonna be a behind the scenes and whatever but that footage is more sought after now than it ever
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would have been at the time you know like when when that was eventually released that part of the
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footage and whatever it it was just something that came out whereas because we've had to wait so long
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it's it's like finding out about the jfk assassination you've got your thoughts
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and feelings about what was going on and what happened but to see minute by minute how the
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bands was going and the direction they were going in is quite fascinating for me anyway made me just
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it's it's it's a special one i i i always thought that um that john was the leader of the beatles
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and then paul paul was always second but i realized it was kind of the other way around and
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also i realized that john was tapped out during this he's just you know he he he's almost like
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a fly on the wall of the beatles you know he's that he's the i i just felt like his involvement
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was [ __ ] all in this in this documentary because every time i was watching him like you could see
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that there was a bit of conflict between like george and and um and uh and paul but then you
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also would see like ringo would show up every day ringo was [ __ ] keen john's late every day
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john doesn't say that [ __ ] word in this barely you know he barely speaks and i just thought
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man you he he's basically he's got one leg out already yeah and and especially like later on
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where he's taking meetings with the rolling stones manager he's he's already got his eyes
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on the exit one one thing i found surprising was john lennon post beetles you know where he was at
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every rally under the sun you know and he was he was opposed and evident and he was as
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on the side of like the peace protests in the states with the vietnam war he was he was at
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the forefront of all that had a lot of things going on in the world john was right there
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but i know in this he does avoid confrontation he doesn't like confrontation and everybody knows
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that there's something not right between john and paul but they're just not talking about it they're
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doing everything they can not to talk about it and when they're together the spark is still there and
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they're still there and they still look like they enjoy it but i feel like as soon as that's over
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and they go from playing together there's that there's that huge thing of the not necessarily
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on the same page and obviously they went but one of one one of my favorite things about the whole
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thing is and where the writing and john's there and he's got his guitar and he's like i don't
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even know all the words to this and obviously because it's just after the new year and he's he
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has that moment and he goes up oh mel grab a pen and he's staring at his examiner everybody had a
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hard year a good year and then he he just comes up with the lyrics you know everybody put the socks
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you know everybody put the foot and he's literally writing the lyrics and i i think i struggle with
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being in my band with with the grand union is the fact that when i'm writing i see the beatles and
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their lyrics and you hear them and you just go oh my god oh wow but they didn't really necessarily
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put a lot of thought time or effort into them you know and i assumed they did i just thought they
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did but watching them just nodded his head and got yeah that's the lyrics i i couldn't believe that
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but at the same time is it because they were that good the right lyrics they didn't need to
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fluff about with it for six months to decide on the day in the studio what phrasing they
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were gonna go for you know you know you know one thing that surprised me a little bit actually was
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the the whole concept of the original documentary right is you know and we're gonna go i'm gonna
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play a show it's gonna be the beatles first live show and however many years it's you know and then
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paul obviously is wanting it to become a live performer he wants to be a live band again he
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paul wants to be out there again and i think they all they all kind of do really but
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the pressure they put themselves on there to go into a sound stage come up with an idea for a show
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and write an album yeah it's ridiculous they they they were that big
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that they didn't have to put that constraint on themselves yeah you know it's not like
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they put that pressure on themselves and that again like i was saying before like
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it's just adding little bits of fuel to the fire that they don't need yeah you know and
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an interesting one is ringo you know you were saying before about you thought john was putting
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his foot down more and john was more involved ringo i think is kind of the shining light
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of this whole thing it's because ringo seems to be the nicest most caring man
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out of the band you know the mccartney ringo relationship is a funny one to this day
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people always go oh did you like each other or other when ringo says you know i could watch
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him play the piano for hours this genuine love between ringo and paul and he's he's like that
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with everyone in the band but where ringo doesn't want to go abroad and play the show they they as
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a band could veto any decision and if they all didn't want to do it they just wouldn't do it
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which which is funny really because it's you think of it as john and paul making all the decisions
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but they allowed george and i sailed out like tongue-in-cheek they allowed george and ringo
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to make decisions that actually affected them yeah you know yeah well i i i got that as well man like
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and i i thought it's funny seeing the relationship between paul and george like george knows that
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paul's right about like you know things in the song but but then you see that like george's
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you know like ego is like oh yeah but i can't i just want to play a little bit you know i want
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to put this here right here and it just [ __ ] and i think any guitar player can relate to
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that just wanting to over play and like where the singer's like can we just not have a guitar solo
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and then there's one part where they referenced hey jude and he's just like do you want me to sit
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down like hey jude again yeah i like to george george is quite sad he's great balls you judge
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when it comes to then anyway like george george this is cheeky but one thing i noticed a little
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george is like i think he feels inferior to john and paul because he's always been the little
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brother you know that dynamic of relationship and he's playing in their bands but by this point he's
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hanging around with dylan and he's you know he's friends without a cotton and it's it's kind of a
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funny thing his relationship with that a captain because you know what he's talking he's like oh
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you know eric can do all these things i can't do all these things you know that's quite a good
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george i know to anyone who's not from liverpool they might think i sound like all four of the
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beatles but i don't but that that that george impression was killer but he's the way he talks
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about at a cotton and then when you think about what happened down the line of clarkson starla's
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you know it's it's a bit of a bit of a funny thing but george man i i don't think anyone can watch it
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and think badly about george because george george for me is he's the normal one you know he's just
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he he understands what they're trying to achieve but he sees it
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as a bigger picture of there's other things out there not just the beatles you know
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yeah well i will say when they when they were jamming all things must pass together
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and the three of them were singing on it i was like man it's it's a shame
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that the beatles never called it that song i mean don't get me wrong george on his own is is amazing
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but it is a shame i i think every song should have their three voices and harmony on it man
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hey marcia good morning oh demand [ __ ] this and then one thing did you notice i one thing
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i took away from this documentary is george was the best dressed beetle
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that one but the one that comes to mind is just him in these like [ __ ] amazing fur
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jackets and every time i won i was like looking up on my phone where can i get one of these
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you know you know what's actually quite funny one and i didn't really
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i wouldn't have ever thought about it but you know the obviously what the crescendo
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what we're leading to of of the rooftop gig right yeah the clothes they wear on that is
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i i don't know i live on the old david bowie school of thought of you should never
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wear on stage what you arrive into the venue right and it's it's thought about us more of that these
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are your performer code that's not you anymore these are your performer codes and the beatles
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iconic look in that in that performance and they're just the clothes they were
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wearing to go to the studio and they're just their normal clothes that's that's
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just what they were they were getting from me to be you know i was amazed by that because
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i feel like maybe some bands more than others some performers and all the numbers put a lot
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of time and effort to what they're wearing on stage and the beatles just they'd already
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done the suits for many years yeah yeah they just wanted to wear a big comfy fair coat
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but that's the thing they like i i think for a lot of performers out there it also becomes
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an issue of of of of price like that jacket that that third jacket is is would cost a you
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know a fair quid right they have the money to wear that well don't hamish well don't have it
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you know they would have the money to wear that all the time like if i had that kind of money
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like that i would do that i would wear the fur jacket and wherever or wherever i want it
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i wouldn't think of the animals hamish think of the animals think of the animals yeah well you pig
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i think paul's daughter has a vegan fur company i don't know how it works yeah i have to look into
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that and get some good money good on it what what what's your views on george martin and all of this
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um i didn't really see what he was doing too much i just saw him like wandering around
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asking questions and then then just disappearing and half an hour later oh there's george martin
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because it's quite funny because
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maybe it was up until this point but i had a conversation with stu my friend
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and guitarist and he he was saying maybe george martin because they went on abbey road
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he was just out of his comfort zone and they want they weren't actually recording an album
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at the time they were just writing songs and seeing what would stick you know but it's
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he's still so involved and you can see that they all trust them completely but i thought
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obviously the stories of of before maybe it's just because they've gotten bigger and they you know
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they trusted their own judgment more but george martin was very much involved in everything and
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i'd honestly like to know when that turned off and then maybe when it turned back on again in regards
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to the composition side of it anyway yeah well i think he was involved in the even like little
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things that i've seen on youtube i think that that's what he that's how he worked he was like
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boys you go figure this out then when you come to the studio i think we put strings on because
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there was one conversation about talking about like strings and orchestras on different parts
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and you only heard that briefly before it cut to the next thing and i was like ah that's where you
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come in it's like the boys an idea to you and then you're like yep let's fill studio three
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with uh with the full london orchestra and then after tonight can we get some you know concert
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violins in studio four you know yeah i just i just saw that as more of you know of the involvement
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who's calling you ringo yeah ringo bloody hell i'm i'm trying to talk about you and you're giving me
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phone calls oh no i'm really sorry about that percy yeah for me man mal evans he's he's the
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guy who i think should deserves a bit of credit anyway for writing a few beatles songs because
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he's there sat next to george and sat next to all of them his little pen and paper maybe these
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should be the words you know changing phrasing and whatever like he goes on long and wide in the road
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and that's just a beautiful beautiful thing and he was the road manager and he's a guy who later on
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in the show stops a few coppers from getting where they need to be you know and
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but i just like how anything they need he's doing yeah you know and it's it's such a shame because
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later on in life they kind of said that his involvement wasn't really there and he said
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he did more than he did and one of that but watching that documentary the guy is doing it
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less or less right he was quite lazy yeah and they went mal we're bringing a tv crew in anyway right
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let's get a coffee in me i need to look busy the bosses are here right unless unless that was the
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case yeah the guy the guy is is just everywhere he's doing everything they need and it's
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the legend of the beatles is quite a funny thing isn't it because i just imagine paul and john
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early days you know in in paul's bathroom writing songs to the right acoustics you know and and then
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them going into records with george martin and
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ringo and george wayne and the songs on the day you know yeah and then later on they've got that
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many things going on around them and there's a guy there like whatever lyrics they need and
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it's i don't know i think i think there's actually some people who could honestly do
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with not watching the documentary because if you want them to say it's this mythical
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mythical thing then it's it's how normal here you know yeah it's it's like
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we're coming up into christmas season now if you've seen what santa claus was doing
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for the rest of the year would you be that interested in them i don't know because he's
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definitely real let me tell you you know it's i think i feel like sometimes although we now i i
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feel like it may have always been there but right now our generation and the way the world is we've
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got such a need for content but such a need to have it right now you know and there's some
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things that you just don't want to know about you don't want to know how the sausage is made
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you know and i feel like for a lot of people it'll be quite a sad thing for them to watch because
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they go from being these gods to just being four blokes from liverpool yeah good pen a song you
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know yeah yeah write some amazing albums yeah i i definitely see your point with that because like
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i jus i just felt like if if if you know like if you were there you would be you would just
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be friends with them you'd just be like hey guys you know whatever and you know you know yeah yeah
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yeah did it just be oh paul my friend paul yeah yeah he's my mate paul that plays you know in this
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band and uh yeah we're just hanging out on the side he plays he plays he plays the funny guitar
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you know yeah he plays but he plays again yeah he's not bad he's not fun
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i don't think he i don't think he'll ever make any money out of it yeah
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man i don't and i'm you know and that george guy's a bit quiet man and that ringo guy is
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really nice too yeah but that johnny he should be he should be he he should be a train conductor
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but that john lennon bloke he's a bit moody you never know if he's happy or
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sad when he's sitting in there and uh you know very quiet pondering his ideas
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i think he's just how does he sleep ah how does he sleep man i don't know i'll die imagining
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so what what do you think of yoko owner man i think the worst the to be honest with everybody
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that will go watch this the worst 10 minutes of this whole documentary and when they cut to hers
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it's just like jump and paul's like not in his head played along and he must be thinking
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what have we got ourselves into dude when i saw that i thought [ __ ] man i don't think
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like paul has the patience of a saint you know like to sit through and jam while she's doing
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that to your song i i felt angry anger yeah it's it's it's a funny thing you know imagine
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like you know he's so nice like he i think he was too nice to john to be honest
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it you know you know it's i it's when she's reading the newspaper
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and they're all sat there writing you know the beatles are there and she's just there
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sat next to them yeah not even next to the annie christian fella she's
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just there reading the paper yeah and i could understand you know
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i i feel like i've had a few bad memories that would be like can you challenge people you know
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yeah and nobody does it nobody does it yeah maybe maybe people will more polite than but
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i've seen a an interesting thing and it was about uh it was paul talking about john
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the yoga and he was like you know at the time it was annoying but he met the love of his life
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and he just wanted us to be around him all the time and he can't argue with that
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you know but if you meet the love of your life she's not gonna do the podcast video this year
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i just asked you a question too like what your life do you take to work with you oh um
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in here
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yeah like you know i i i i understand what paul saying that's a really sweet way of saying it and
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i get it and like i said man i see this whole thing as a lord story you know but she doesn't
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always need to be there no no i i'm surprised nobody was like hey yo go he is like 20 could
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you go get us some lunch or something while we figure this out yeah just like bribe her off
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she was doing a screen and i was like
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this needs to stop that was the only part i never enjoyed that was the only one i never enjoyed
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yeah just just that just a little bit but god bless her but i've had a conversation
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about linda paul's missus and she's just the sweetest most lovable human being ever you know
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i don't know why linda didn't go up to yoko and be like oh yoko do you want to come do this do
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you want to come see my um you know just come this way a little bit more could you walk another 20
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steps in this direction yeah go do this you know get off the way yeah and wander around like the
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beatles housewives you know the real housewives of liverpool are just wandering around outside
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seeing all the sights yeah yeah i don't know it's it's a funny dynamic isn't it because
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it's john's wife and paul's wife you know yeah but for those who are so close john and paul there's
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not much going on between the wives whereas a thought that may have been at least you know yeah
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some kind of bond everyone's been away on a weekend away with your significant other's
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friends best friend and their partner you know yeah with gr we created teeth everyone's done it
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yeah but now she seems she seems really sweet and unfortunately she she you know just didn't
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have the longest of lives and i feel for paul to this day i feel like that was that was the love
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of his life you know and he's been in love after it but that was the love of his life
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yeah and that's i agree that's purple purple yeah like throughout this thing man i i i i
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gained more respect from paul mccartney out of this documentary i just wish there was people
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like paul mccartney that were politicians you know like the the [ __ ] democracy the patience
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and the persistence of that means we we've got a few politicians in england who say get back
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and they have christmas parties when these children's as well but what you know what
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there was a moment in it and it actually gave me a moment of clarity right and it's when
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when paul's then you know i feel like i'm always the one telling you what to do
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i don't want to do this but somebody's got to do it i i remember thinking ah paul's bit of
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a [ __ ] right paul he's doing this thing of so when we talk about the yoko ono effect it's uh
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you go home and your significance others you know maybe annoyed yet and then you're annoyed
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about the bands and then they're they're saying you know they don't realize how much you do for
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their fans and how you know they need you more than you need you know and then it happens all
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the time in bands you you play them bands man you know yeah someone comes in a little bit
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down saying their involvement is more important than anyone else's and i have a friend in mind
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he's my best friend growing up chris baldwin right and i every time he'd come in and he'd give
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you know he'd be doing it he was in a band now and he'd be giving it to me about something right
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and i'd be like yoko oh no in fact this is what's going on because he met a girl and but
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after watching this it's given me the quality of was i actually doing as much in that band as it
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could have been you know yeah the problem is with with with with get back on where the beatles were
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is that paul is all in yeah and the rest of them are not all in yeah george has got his eye on the
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door john's got his eye on the door ringo never wanted to end yeah but paul is actually all in
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and that's the [ __ ] thing and to be in a band where not everyone
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is that committed as you especially if you're
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the main songwriter or one you know one of the two main songwriters i feel like
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he was giving them an ultimatum by saying we need to be out there and we need to be alive fans
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and maybe none of them wanted to just you know what i mean bite the bullet and
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go along with it one big thing about being in a band is managing personalities yeah you know
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and it's it's about managing them in the sense of when do they need an arm around them yeah and when
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do they need to be told you know and i i i do not like being screened up or told i'm not i need you
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know the long run up approach to it yeah they call it a director's sandwich right so you'd have notes
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you're doing really great oh yeah brilliant and then the filling maybe maybe you could just
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do it like this instead maybe you could maybe you could you know maybe maybe you could just
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practice a little more maybe maybe you could be on time or maybe you know and then underneath
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but you're doing great and that is the director's sandwich you know it's about being able to manage
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people's personalities and i personally know i've been able to do it well all the time and i know
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i've had my personalities managed but paul's doing the best that he can and bear in mind this isn't
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you know a pub rock band this is the biggest band in the world at that point you know but one thing
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and this is something that when i seen it and i don't know how you feel about it
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when the guy comes around the publishing guy and he's talking to them about
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you know uh oh and you've bought these you bought these back catalogues and you've bought that and
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oh and then so and so he's done a cover of your song and then oh yeah great correctly
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oh right should we go for lunch and they don't know it at the time
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but that is a massive massive point in music because they were so nonchalant about their own
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music if if i feel like that's the only moment in it paul mccartney would have seen and went
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i wish i would have paid more attention to that yeah but they just assumed they were
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being looked after you know yeah because they're the beatles and they have all this power yeah but
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a moment that if they'd have all been on it and you know being for businessmen not for musicians
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trying to steer the [ __ ] you know paul mccartney and ringo starr and yoko ono and
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uh olivia harrison and the families would be a lot lot richer to this day you know if if those
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issues never came up because that was such a pivotal thing and i was watching it and i was like
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someone listened to what he's saying someone someone and none of them you know but
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i suppose if you've been hit after hit after hit after hit it's like thinking you know you're a
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professional athlete yeah and you get paid the big contract and those contracts are always going to
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come so you can spend as much as you want because you're always going to earn that but you don't and
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the reality is you know the gravy train will end if you're an athlete you'll get an injury you know
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your body can't do what it used to do yeah you stop being able to write number one albums
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and then it all that is just something that you never used to worry about and there's
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now your reality the other thing we've got to remember is man it's like as important
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as this is and as good as it is that we've got to witness it this is seven eight months or
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maybe maybe close to a year and a half before the beatles even break up yeah you know
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and george right that's it i'm going i'm leaving where are you going i'm leaving the best
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how nonchalant dallas and i'm watching that as if you're going no george come back
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there's no this is the point where they're like what do we do now and it's a
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oh well if he doesn't come back or just get claptonin yeah well did you notice that george
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that's i i more or less thought george was a little bit of a [ __ ] because like before that
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was the conversation of them of paul going i don't want to tell you this all the time george you know
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and and then george then still packs ups and has a little leaves for a couple of days but imagine
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that more really ripped into him then [ __ ] the beaters would have ended a year before oh
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yeah yeah well that's that's enough i didn't say something john quit and then that was pretty much
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john quits pre let it be even being released you know yeah and then paul dissolves the partnership
40:25
and then let it let bees come out and imagine like promoting the album you know the death of
40:36
the beatles this is the name now but that um in itself like what what's your favorite feels um
40:44
the white album is it yeah it is or two people in the world said that you and charlie manson
40:59
well i don't know if it was charlie's favorite album he thought it was about the world
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you know coming to an end but i like i like the white album like that that's that's mine because
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i think it was the first beatles album that i listened to and i was like man i can see how you
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guys are doing this like it was like i could see almost the back end formula of it and i was like
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oh this is this is this is cool because it doesn't seem like you know um quite because it was
41:29
just little songs on there that were stupid you know that probably shouldn't have been on there
41:33
yeah on like especially the white house man and i was like yeah like i i this is this is the one
41:39
i like because it's the one i can kind of see that the the engine's working the process yeah
41:46
and now every time i listen to it it's it's just become like it the more and more it's
41:50
just become my favorite thing because it's not quite as polished as the others yeah
41:57
um what about yourself what's what's your favorite
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i don't really want to start the show but i thought you might like to know
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sergeant pepper's only haskell band that's sergeant pepper's man is a masterpiece yeah it
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really is a masterpiece yeah and that is an album that that's probably been my favorite album for
42:28
four years yeah that's my goal to to listen to um you know and i feel like they couldn't do
42:38
anything wrong the beatles there yeah and john is equally involved you know he's it's it's
42:47
competition is a very very healthy thing you know because it stops you being stagnant and it stops
42:57
a big problem with a lot of bands is if one person is the driving force
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that person's only got so many ideas you know whereas to have two
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of the greatest ever competing not necessarily to a better song than the other one but to yeah
43:19
that song was good i need to you know or my bit needs to be as good as what he's came up with this
43:25
on this you know and that that our man and the the track for me on that obviously
43:32
what it ends with a day in the life but the she's leaving home yeah
43:39
and mccartney i i shift all the time on favorite people i do and uh we are the conversation when
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uh i went the grand union did west underground positive week about you know you get to enjoy
43:55
it all you know and you don't need to have a favorite because you can enjoy it all and
44:03
paul for me like what what everyone did post beetles
44:11
what their music was you know what what what they created i think wings
44:19
the band on the run album stands next to award of the beatles albums for me
44:25
yeah and that's because mccartney and i can say mccartney just he had a period up there where
44:33
everything he was touching was saying into gold yeah
44:38
i got that and you know like you don't let it be the facts the fact that long unwinding roads
44:48
is on that song is such a beautiful song you know and and let it be itself like it's
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it's yeah you know you know what you know what i was actually looking for
45:02
in the documentary i i'd always said that john lennon thought paul wrote two of us about
45:10
them two together and the excitement on john's face where the planet two of us at least you
45:18
know and the two of them are singing it together and i would i would have liked for in in that
45:24
to be like it's a good song about me and you ain't paul and he's like what it's not linda and
45:33
because i don't care anyone says that ended the beatles
45:36
yeah that was that was the broken his heart when he found out that we're able to oh man yeah it
45:48
did that was one of the glimpses of when you could see lennon come back to life a little bit
45:52
in that documentary i was like yeah some there was a little bit of spirit like you know re
45:58
rejuvenated in him and i was like yeah that's that's a good moment but yet but again
46:05
it's this is footage that's been in the hands of um
46:12
so obviously the original director michael lindsay
46:14
footage got sold and i think:46:25
i reckon on you know so we've seen eight hours of footage
46:29
on the other it's 60 hours total isn't it i reckon on those over hours you know
46:37
ringo it goes probably just like this in a bunk you know oh i love that's very good
46:47
but one thing i will say about ringo is when when he comes in and he's like oh
46:54
this and he starts playing octopuses garden right and the smile on george's face
47:04
and he's like you can see he's like that's really good yeah that's actually really good and it's
47:12
it's those dynamics that i like in it because the two of them going nowhere must have always felt
47:23
you know this is john and paul's and then when they got to do anything together
47:28
for the two of them that must have been so good man because they'd probably been together
47:36
throughout over the years yeah because everything's always been john and paul
47:40
you reckon that like like ringo and george were i had plenty of balconies over the years going
47:46
i wrote a song and then ringo's like oh yeah i wrote one too and then and they're just bitching
47:52
that then their songs never got in the thing and then yeah yeah i've got five songs and
47:57
none of them don't want any of them yeah yeah then only that ones have one each on this album
48:03
oh yes you know what i will say though it is
48:07
it is it is a huge crock of [ __ ] that the lennon mccartney partnership thing right because
48:16
you know the songs that neither have had any you know you know like there's there's a lot
48:25
of paul songs and he's playing until then and it's come up you know where mccartney i
48:33
now we have nothing to do with it but i mean as a as a business model it's it's probably as the
48:44
years went on been great for the two of them more so probably for john's family yeah all still then
48:51
obviously after john john got murdered but i think that's what's paying the rent for yoko at the
48:57
dakota building uh i think yoko is fine i think i think she'll be fine forever i honestly it made me
49:07
i see yoko a bit differently now so i've seen it he just he look she still loves him the way she
49:15
talks about him to this day you know it's just i the facts you know we we we weren't alive you
49:25
know where we weren't alive when i got shot but imagine who's the biggest fan in the world today
49:38
the sad thing is that there was silence in and i can't tell you yeah because you don't know
49:42
you don't know right okay so out of that biggest band who you've just
49:46
mentioned that you can't mention because who is it really they're
49:53
you know the food they say the they're singing i love the food fighters but it's not the fruit
50:00
prizes it's gotta be a banjo everyone agrees on you know and the nickelback
50:09
hey we all just want to be rock stars the the idea that someone
50:18
i don't know like i was saying before john was beside every protest and he
50:22
you know he's doing everything he could to use a celebrity to help people the idea that
50:28
someone would just go unmarried to them yeah you know it's just it's nuts and especially
50:39
we have a problem in our society today in our generation of main character syndrome you know
50:46
with instagram and all these things yeah like the mark chapman just went up and killed young man
50:51
and just just killed him and i'd like to i'd like to know what what his albums would have been like
51:00
going on from where he was yeah whatever he would have did whether he would uh you know
51:07
released a a a dance album and you know what what would have happened
51:15
if john lennon would have went full tech that's what i want to know i i don't know i don't know
51:21
but i i read i i read elton john's book recently yeah and i think he may have may have followed
51:28
into that a little bit because there's this part of i've read the reviews on elton's book
51:34
they say it's a little bit funny yeah well we'll do that that's the next podcast
51:42
okay go online sorry um
51:46
but dude i definitely recommend it it'd probably be just as good as if like you were i tried to
51:51
write a book i'm just glad that he you know it's his words and he's you know done it i think it's
51:56
worse when you get the ghost writers did he write it did he write it all the bernie writer
52:05
did you ever see this i love you to pieces i love you to pieces i'm bernie
52:13
yeah these these are jokes you're not going to find anywhere else
52:18
oh man and the the one going back to the elton book there's one part of it where elton's talking
52:26
about how everybody used to go see john when in you yeah and they would come over like david bowie
52:32
and and when elton would come over they would go out and go to clubs and stuff like that and go to
52:38
so i think maybe because he would go to the you know the bit of like the alternative clubs in
52:42
new york so imagine if you're going to those places and you're experiencing that kind of
52:47
music you would probably it probably would be lennon's disco to be fair though as well like
52:54
like obviously yoko was an artist and they were
52:58
he lived he lived in greenwich village in new york that they were surrounded by
53:02
art you know and andy warhol's this world and they they were right in there so i feel like
53:11
i feel like he would have carried on making good music you know and even
53:19
you know we lost we lost george very early as well yeah and i feel like
53:26
those those traveling will be ups i i love those albums me too because he he looks like he's just
53:34
having fun and the way he talks about the beatles in the documentary he's like you know i i see it
53:41
as being more than just us you know we are you know maybe dylan can join and the beatles being
53:46
this this big thing is essentially what he created in the town of wilbury's you know yeah just like
53:54
all all the top dogs together having a little sing song yeah yeah and i i i just had one thought too
54:04
as well like that just came to mind as well like i don't think glennon would have released the
54:09
disco album to be honest because he was around for it like he was around for disco throughout
54:13
the 70s you would have seen the people yeah that's true actually yeah go down that road and
54:20
you know he he didn't participate in the staying live era you know we you know go and with the
54:26
documentary too were you sitting there going oh i'm looking at it like a very young john lennon
54:32
and like and paul mccartney and then after like thinking [ __ ] after this you went
54:39
you know and just sitting there going after this you moved to new york after this you you
54:46
take it pretty easy with life and put out a couple albums and then to put a band to get an all-star
54:51
band together and then looking at ringo and going you go on to you know do the voice for thomas the
54:56
tank engine just sitting there going the most successful of the brought out if you ask me
55:02
yeah and just going like wow and like we're just chilling with you guys like we're just sitting in
55:08
the you know in the in the background and going like you know like just so much of history could
55:14
have been changed you know if you were able to become present in those moments and be like
55:20
yeah george stop smoking cigarettes john moved to new york yeah john stop pissing people off yeah
55:32
overall would you recommend the uh the get back documentary to to to your friends or
55:40
also to your friends who aren't muse like i feel like for me anyway
55:44
this is a documentary if you're playing music or if you've got that little creative bug
55:49
that it's definitely a watch if you're not it's probably going to be a very tough watch for you
55:55
i i actually agree with you man i think it's it's it's so
56:02
i i i work with an italian guy with a very nice guy right favorite band is queen yeah yeah area
56:10
he was i i got i was i was watching get back just i was watching it for the second time
56:19
obviously for doing this but more for my own enjoyments and this you know this says what you
56:25
basically just said i think fans of the beatles will care about it and they will care about it
56:33
fans of music will care about it the average joe might make okay for example
56:40
oh that's cool bro he's italian this is how he speaks you can't speak english in the northern
56:44
territory for everyday people i don't really they're not going to rush to watch it but for
56:55
for anyone who's in the arts or in music you know it's how could you not watch it when when when it
57:02
was announced what they were releasing it was a countdown in my mind till the 25th you know yeah
57:12
literally a countdown and it wasn't because that's when my brother's birthday is it was because get
57:19
back was going to come out and we're going to get to see it yeah did it live up to your expectations
57:28
well i didn't really have any particular like expectations like to be honest i didn't go in
57:34
there going oh i expected to be like this i hope yeah you know but i think in in
57:40
in hindsight it it did because it made me just realize [ __ ] man like they were just like
57:46
normal dudes like you could just you know you could just see that they weren't like
57:51
um you know like yeah like manufactured fake you know people like they were just genuine
57:59
you know dudes like that's i think that's one thing i took away from it it's just like
58:03
i i feel like if you met them like even if you met paul to this day i don't think
58:08
i don't think it'd be like you could sit down in the room and kind of have a have a you know talk
58:13
to paul once you kind of got over the fact that he's paul mccartney oh my god it's morgan yeah
58:18
yeah once you had that moment i feel like you'd be like oh man i actually you know you'd be a decent
58:24
person to sit around with yeah i don't think that there's any there's any malice and paul mccartney
58:28
to be honest yeah i don't think there's a bad bone in his body i genuinely don't think that is called
58:34
carry on sonny there's other celebrities that you meet out there right and you could imagine that
58:39
you you wouldn't probably like to be in a room with them you know some of them and you'd be like
58:44
you could imagine that they would be like a how do i say the uh you know the c word in a nice way
58:53
see you next tuesday exactly a little nicer yeah
59:01
you know and um i just i just don't feel like they you know maybe if you caught them on a
59:05
bad day but i feel like for the most part you know yeah and i think that was the one
59:10
thing i'd take away from it because you know how they say you never want to meet
59:13
your heroes i feel like then after watching that i was like maybe it wouldn't be bad
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