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We are breaking down Season 9, Episode 14 Captives. This episode is proof Diana isn't skipping ahead. Liz then quizzes her on Kevin and Linda Freaking Tran.
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On this episode of Devil's Trap podcast, Sam and Dean teach us how to summon a ghost in the woods.
Liz:You need coffee maker, radio, spirit board, beer, candles, and candy.
Liz:Let's do this.
Liz:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Liz:I'm Diana.
Diana:And I'm Liz.
Liz:And this week we're going to talk about season nine, episode 14, captives.
Diana:Captives.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:I whispered, but sure.
Diana:Captives.
Liz:Captives.
Liz:How are you?
Liz:What are you up to?
Diana:Not a damn thing.
Liz:Not a damn thing.
Diana:No.
Diana:Oh, yeah.
Diana:It's been a.
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:Like, I've just been hanging out in hospitals and all that shit again.
Diana:So it's.
Diana:It's.
Diana:It's not been a fun week, and.
Diana:But it's also been fine.
Diana:I.
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:Everything is normal, and it's spooky season.
Diana:There's a ghost hunt this weekend I'm looking forward to.
Liz:That's exciting.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:My children hunt, so I'm gonna go hunt ghost.
Diana:Ghost children.
Liz:That's right.
Liz:I think I told you there's a really cool one in Dallas.
Liz:It's not a ghost hunt.
Liz:It's just a tour.
Diana:Oh, the cemetery tour.
Liz:Preservation Dallas, which is who does, like, a lot of the historic buildings in Dallas, or there's a private organization that advocates for them.
Liz:They are doing a cemetery tour, and apparently they're giving access to cemeteries that are not always open to the public.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:Kind of neat.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:So you can go see the fancy dead people, right?
Diana:As opposed to those poor dead people.
Liz:I don't know.
Diana:Yeah, that's exciting.
Diana:I would go do that one.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:I mean, it's just.
Diana:It's.
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:It's just one of those things.
Diana:It's one of those weeks.
Diana:I'm ready for this week to be, I don't know, just to move on and go.
Diana:Go talk to dead people.
Diana:They've seen better than live people.
Diana:What about you?
Diana:Oh, I will say on that note, because it is like, it's super consumption time, because Amazon is having prime days.
Diana:Everybody's having a sale.
Diana:So I was looking up because I'm probably going to be hunting by myself because I don't think my team is going to be able to make it on Friday.
Diana:And so it's like, okay, well, what do I want to bring?
Diana:I have no idea where my thermal heat gun is.
Diana:It's in a box somewhere.
Diana:That is, you know, because for those of you don't know, I got stuff that's packed up from a move.
Diana:So I don't know where that is.
Diana:I don't want to buy another one because it was expensive.
Diana:And so it's like, what can I do?
Diana:So I'm going to bring my little travel spirit boards with me.
Diana:And those are really, because they're small and they're portable, but what sucks about them is you need it, like, in the dark is, like, how you see them.
Diana:Right?
Diana:So do I have to get a nerdy flashlight for my head or something so I can.
Diana:Yeah, so get a headlamp.
Diana:But I did find on somebody's, like, kind of, like, budget ghost hunting site about building a kind of a ghost detection with a theremin, and I found a cheap kit to build a theremin with.
Diana:So I'm making a ghost hunting theremin that I'm going to attach to one of my creepy dolls.
Diana:Maybe not a creepy doll.
Diana:I mean, just a regular doll.
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:It says, let's put it to a stuffed animal.
Diana:So I figure I'll grab one of my creepy dolls.
Diana:Oh, maybe I'll put it in Peggy.
Liz:There you go.
Liz:It goes in Peggy.
Liz:I think that's.
Diana:Exciting because, yeah, there's.
Diana:There is a lot of ghost hunting equipment that's out there, but I feel like the field is going so commercialized, and you can just, you know, build a lot of stuff from scratch and things that you get off of eBay.
Diana:So I'm going to build.
Diana:I'm working on buildings with my own equipment because I don't have enough things to do.
Liz:There you go.
Liz:I appreciate that.
Liz:That's exciting.
Diana:Yeah, yeah, I'm just excited to build a theremin.
Diana:Honestly, I wanted one forever.
Liz:I'm excited for you for that one.
Diana:I think now that I got the melodica, I knew that I was gonna have to get the theremin, so my.
Diana:The world's.
Diana:If I can learn to play the theremin or the melodica while I'm on the Lyra, who I think my circus act will be achieved.
Liz:Yeah, I should say you're there.
Diana:What are the problems?
Diana:One of the sites that I keep looking for, like, Lyra stuff on also sells fire toys, so they're having a flash sale today, and I almost bought fire, so I was like, no.
Diana:Sell yourself on fire.
Liz:Don't do it.
Liz:Don't do it.
Liz:No.
Diana:All right, so what about you?
Diana:What are you up to?
Liz:We're in get ready for the invasion car show mode.
Liz:That's a lot of my focus right now because that is coming up on October 26 in deep bellum invasioncarshow.com.
Liz:but, yeah.
Liz:So we're just getting ready for our car club show.
Liz:You know, it's exciting to have another year of it.
Liz:And doing at the end of October is a first for us.
Diana:So hopefully the weather will be lovely.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:I mean, in October in Texas, I can go.
Diana:Still be a lot of ways.
Diana:You have no idea how that's gonna be.
Liz:No, but we're excited about that.
Liz:And then.
Liz:Yeah, other than that, just trucking along.
Liz:I mean, I saw a.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:I mean, yeah, but we took our car, actually, kind of.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:Did you see a car show?
Liz:We took our car to promote, and it was kind of cool.
Liz:And then what else have we been up to?
Liz:I guess that's about it.
Liz:I feel like I haven't done as much.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Just work, working, you know, watching my pool drain when it's not supposed to.
Liz:So that's exciting.
Diana:That's exciting.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:That's expensive.
Liz:And we went to the fair last week, and we're gonna stay fair Texas last week, and we're going again this week, which makes me very.
Diana:I'm jealous.
Diana:Was jealous of the fair.
Liz:I love the fair.
Liz:If you happen to listen and are going to the fair, I will give a strong endorsement to the cotton candy bacon.
Liz:I was skeptical.
Liz:I did not believe in it.
Liz:I was like, this is going to be gross or weird.
Liz:And I love cotton candy, and I like bacon a lot.
Liz:And it was better than the sum of its parts.
Liz:It was really good.
Diana:That is really funny.
Liz:So there we go.
Liz:It's one of the specialty items this year.
Liz:So strong recommendation, but, yeah, that's all I got.
Liz:Oh, and I'll say that, actually, they do have a bad ass Dia de los Muertos installation this year in the women's museum, which is also a lovely building.
Liz:It is.
Liz:It is an really, really lovely, lovely installation.
Liz:It's multi floor.
Liz:It's really cool.
Liz:So if you go, it's a, it's seasonally appropriate, b, if you're at the fair, you're already there.
Liz:So it's free.
Liz:And.
Liz:And, yeah, it's just really, really cool.
Liz:So there you go.
Diana:Awesome.
Liz:My update.
Liz:I gave two sales pitches in one.
Liz:That's my update.
Liz:Look at this.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:That's why you've got to listen to these things right when they come out, like, and subscribe.
Diana:So let's talk about this episode, and just because we haven't said this in a while.
Diana:So on this, this podcast, Diana has never watched this show, and she says she's watching things for the first time, so we're always getting her perspective on that, and I have seen it too often.
Diana:So title of this was captives.
Diana:It was season nine, episode 14.
Diana: ,: Diana:It was directed by Jerry Wanick.
Diana:Jerry was a production designer and a co producer on Supernatural, and he's been with the show since his first season.
Diana:He also directed three episodes of the show, and the last time we saw him direct was Slice girls.
Diana:And most recently, he's been working as a production designer for Superman and Lois.
Diana:And it was written by Robert Behrens.
Diana:And Robert Behrens joined the supernatural writing team this season, and he served as an executive story editor and supervising producer before being promoted to co executive producer in season 13.
Diana:We last saw him write Heaven can wait, and most recently, he was serving as an executive producer and writer on kung fu Ripley.
Diana:I miss you.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:Well, we kick off with our recap.
Diana:Angels are dicks.
Liz:Angels are dicks is the summary.
Liz:It reminds us of that and that they're at war and that Kevin's dead and that Sam and Dean are fighting.
Diana:And Sam would not do anything for Dean.
Liz:He would not.
Liz:Would not do it.
Diana:He was not meatloafing for Dean.
Liz:Correct.
Diana:I.
Diana:And we go from that and see there's water dripping, and then there is a devil strap and jump scare.
Diana:Look, I told Babe to make me a guitar sound.
Diana:So until Babe makes us a guitar sound, I'm gonna keep trying to find weird things to play every time we get a.
Diana:Every time we see a devil strap.
Liz:Oh, my gosh.
Liz:Well, yeah, we're in the bunker, and the lights are flickering, and Dean is just trying to chill.
Liz:Listen to some billy squire lonely as the night.
Diana:On headphones.
Liz:On headphones.
Diana:It's kind of weird.
Liz:And then he yells, Sam.
Liz:And I see Sam cut out of his room, and he's yelling for Dean.
Diana:And Sam's not in a flannel, and it's so attractive, and he's.
Diana:This is kind of like this nice, tight fitting shirt.
Diana:Sorry.
Diana:I'm objectifying.
Diana:Kind of lucky there.
Diana:But he looks really good.
Diana:But he does also gets a sword, and that also makes him hotter.
Liz:Yeah, because there's.
Liz:He's.
Liz:Dean's not in his room.
Liz:Those lights are flickering, chairs are spinning, and so he's got an arm up with this sword, and all of a sudden, there's a ghost sneaking up on him from behind.
Liz:But Dean shoots him.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:Hits it with rock salt.
Diana:There's.
Liz:Go away.
Diana:Oh, man.
Diana:The bunker's haunted.
Diana:It's a Halloween episode.
Liz:Boo.
Liz:So, they are confused, though, as to how the bunker could be haunted.
Diana:I'm confused as to why they have to fill all these shotgun shells with rock salt.
Diana:Like, are you not prepared for this?
Diana:Do you not have boxes of this already?
Diana:Way to go.
Diana:Did you, like, did you not refill after your last ghost hunting mission?
Diana:Does the men of letters not have, like, a plethora of rock salt shotgun shells?
Diana:Because I would assume they did.
Diana:And they would have cool little bit of letters, big things on them.
Diana:They would be, like, really neat shells.
Liz:So cool.
Liz:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Liz:Like a bandoliers of them.
Liz:Like, band layers.
Diana:Yeah, bandolier.
Liz:Bandoliers.
Liz:Yes.
Diana:I think you can somehow.
Diana:I think you combined pistolero, and I did.
Diana:But I feel like there's a bandolero somewhere.
Liz:I do, too.
Liz:And.
Liz:But we're just gonna roll.
Diana:We're just gonna go with it.
Diana:Okay, so.
Diana:So who's a haunted.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:And so they have just.
Liz:They have to narrow it down and realize that whoever is haunting it died there and probably recently because the wards.
Liz:So, obviously, it's gonna be now.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:So this is the point where I was like, no, because Liz made me really believe that we would never see Kevin again because she's like, well, his eyes were burned out, obviously.
Liz:And I'm like, fuck.
Liz:You're right.
Liz:We're never gonna see Kevin.
Diana:Kevin's dead is what I said.
Diana:I said Kevin was dead.
Diana:And I didn't lie.
Diana:Kevin was dead.
Diana:And.
Diana:But also, the coffee pot says that Kevin is a ghost.
Liz:Kevin's a ghost haunting their coffee pot like you do.
Liz:Sure.
Liz:So.
Liz:And when Sam, to prove the point, says Kevin, the coffee mug explodes.
Liz:So, we cut from this scene.
Liz:Now, we've confirmed that Kevin is their ghostie to a funeral and a man standing at the back of the grave site.
Liz:A burial, I should say.
Liz:And a man standing at the back of the group walks away, and Castiel is like, why are you here?
Liz:And he's like, oh, that was my friend I was friends with the angel that was possessing that woman, the angel Rebecca.
Diana:And this was not.
Diana:This guy was not only friends with Rebecca.
Diana:He was also friends with Booger, aka.
Liz:Metatron, once upon a time.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:And I think this ghost is Aliyah.
Liz:Does that sound right?
Liz:That's what note said somewhere, but they don't really say that, so we're just.
Diana:Gonna say his name.
Diana:I just call him angel dude.
Diana:But I think maybe you're right.
Diana:Maybe that's his name.
Diana:I think they will hear it at some point.
Liz:But so, either way, he's like, look, I I me and Rebecca gave up all of the bullshit because we realized angels lost touch with their mission, and she created her new group of angel followers.
Diana:These are just, like, all little cults, so she, like, she has a true mission.
Diana:Uh oh.
Diana:Who is us?
Diana:The penitent.
Diana:Uh oh.
Diana:They're all her followers.
Diana:Uh oh.
Diana:These are all, like, cult signs that you were in a cult.
Diana:But it doesn't matter because Rebecca dead.
Liz:Rebecca dead.
Liz:But they do kind of agree that Bardi's a monster because he's killing them all.
Diana:Yes, he is a terrible monster.
Liz:Back at the bunker, Sam is trying to communicate with Kevin.
Diana:I'm not gonna lie.
Diana:This is why I ended up, like, going down the rabbit hole of building some of, like, my own ghost equipment today because I was just.
Diana:Eventually, they'll get to other things in here, too.
Diana:They're just, they're making kind of, like, their own ghost equipment.
Diana:And I was like, oh, so, like, the coffee pot is.
Diana:Is a.
Diana:It's spirit box.
Diana:Okay.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:So, either way, they're like, but it took.
Liz:They know it took bobby months to be able to communicate through the veil, and so they're, they're not sure how well this is gonna go, but now it's Dean's turn to take over and Sam's turn to leave.
Liz:And Dean's trying to talk to Kevin, and he's like, I just can't talk to coffee pot.
Liz:He turns.
Liz:He's like, but he's gonna monologue anyways, even though he said he.
Diana:He's got a monologue, but I wish he had done it to the coffee pot.
Diana:That would have been great.
Diana:And Jensen's beards really light in color.
Diana:Like, they've done a lot of close ups on him here, and I didn't have it kind of makes me wonder if he dyes his hair or something because his beard was coming in, like, super kind of almost reddish.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:A lot of guys that happens with, though, where this beard comes in later.
Liz:But so he's like, you know, he gives his monologue, and Sam comes back in.
Liz:And as Sam comes back to the room, Kevin flickers in.
Liz:And Kevin is talking, not realizing that he's flickering in because he's just saying, this is not happening.
Liz:I spend months trying to break through the veil just to get stuck listening to Dean Winchester self pity, possession.
Diana:Hilarious.
Diana:And we've all been saying the same goddamn thing.
Diana:So, yes, Dean Winchester, stop with your pity sessions.
Diana:But he has broken through, and he's going to tell us some very stressful news.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:He's like, I got to talk fast.
Liz:I can't go to heaven because no one can go to heaven.
Liz:So everyone who's dying right now, since the angels fell, are just kind of wandering around.
Liz:This is bad.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:Think of, like, how many people die a day.
Diana:And I don't know what that number is, but I feel like it's a lot.
Diana:So if, in this theory, all those people, we're gonna go to heaven or to hell.
Diana:Doesn't matter.
Liz:Even, like, 70.
Liz:70 30.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:Still.
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:I guess they're like, how?
Diana:Yeah, I guess everybody's going, why isn't Crowley just picking up all of these?
Diana:I don't know.
Diana:It's probably a thing for later, maybe.
Diana:But why wouldn't Crowley be picking up all the souls that are in the veil?
Liz:Right.
Liz:Well, he's got a favorite ask, though.
Liz:That's, a, they need to know that because they gotta solve some.
Liz:But b, his favor is they've got to find his mom.
Liz:They've got to find Linda Tran.
Diana:Find Linda Tram.
Liz:And they're like, wait, are you sure she's even alive?
Liz:He's like, I have a source.
Liz:It's really crowded in the veil, but I found someone who, whatever, died near this.
Liz:This woman named Candy died near a.
Liz:In a forest in Wichita, near a trussel.
Liz:And you've got to go summon her because she saw Linda alive.
Diana:I want Candy.
Liz:So.
Liz:And then he flickers out, and he's like, that's basically, he tells him this is the only way they can make things right with him, is to go find his mom.
Diana:And they owe him this much.
Diana:They owe him to go look for his goddamn mom.
Diana:You should have been looking for her a long time ago.
Diana:Why have you not been looking for Linda Tran?
Liz:It's rude.
Liz:It's rude.
Diana:Rude.
Diana:Linda fucking Tran, man.
Diana:Fattest bitch in town.
Diana:All right, so we go from.
Liz:From.
Diana:I want candy to back to the cemetery.
Diana:And the angels.
Liz:Yeah, two angels.
Liz:Angel henchmen.
Liz:Nag, Castiel.
Liz:That's basically it.
Liz:Then.
Liz:And then we go to the woods in Wichita, near the trestle where Sam and Dean are going.
Liz:Have.
Liz:Are going to summon candy with radios and a coffee maker.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:Sometimes you just got to bring whatever ghost hunting equipment you have.
Liz:But they're both very skeptical about all.
Diana:This still, as you should be with all of your ghost hunting equipment.
Diana:So we get.
Diana:And they're also just.
Diana:They're hunting for candy, which is this hilarious.
Diana:Would be.
Diana:You know, I also have a cousin.
Liz:Named Candy, so it's also, you keep saying it's spooky season, this candy season, too.
Liz:So there we go.
Diana:And someone like, there, I saw the Reese's peanut butter cups and, like, chiropractors today.
Diana:You bastard.
Diana:I let them be.
Diana:But, all right.
Diana:So we go from Mister Coffee to heaven's waiting room.
Liz:Oh.
Liz:Where we've got, uh, Castiel meeting with, uh, Bartholomew.
Diana:And it's a very interesting interaction between them, right?
Liz:Because he thinks he's about to get jacked.
Liz:And Bardi's like, oh, hey, take his angel blade, but give me a hug, bro.
Liz:It's really weird.
Diana:It's been so long since I've seen you.
Diana:And mostly, like, he probably has another angel blade, but, okay, so, so they, they do the hug thing, and then we've got a lot of cutting back and forth.
Liz:It's a lot.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:So then we got from there back to the woods.
Diana:And it's adorable because there are some ghosts, and it's just hilarious.
Diana:It looks like they're having a seance in the woods or like they're at a slumber party, and I love it.
Liz:They are.
Liz:And they've got a lot of beer.
Diana:Like you do at a seance or.
Liz:A slumber party in the woods.
Liz:Yes.
Diana:What else?
Diana:Like, if you go into the, I mean, granted, like, how far they had to walk with all this shit.
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:But they are.
Liz:Dean's leaving Crowley a voicemail because he thinks that's gonna help.
Liz:And Sam definitely calls him out for leaving multiple voicemails for Crowley.
Diana:Yeah, it references a very old reference.
Liz:Of, maybe he's just left that into you right then.
Liz:Dean's like, well, he does.
Liz:He calls Crowley a flaming douchebag.
Liz:But at least he's real and he is connected to Linda.
Diana:Yeah, I he makes sense to me contacting for this.
Diana:Right.
Diana:But also, you know, Cass would make sense as well.
Diana:But clearly, like, how do you all, like, not know how to summon a ghost at this point, right?
Diana:This should be like second nature.
Diana:You guys just be like, there's a ghost.
Diana:But then we go into the radio, starts tuning, which is really a freaking spirit box.
Diana:That's hilarious.
Diana:And Candy is coming through.
Liz:Hello.
Liz:But we cut back to Bardi.
Liz:I'm sorry, Bartholomew.
Liz:And they are telling war stories, him and Cass, about when Castiel was in charge and bars off.
Liz:Bartholomew is like, I held my, remember.
Diana:How well that went?
Diana:Remember the good times and Cassiel was in charge of heaven.
Diana:It ended well.
Liz:And Cassia won, and then, you know, he got to go be elevated.
Liz:And Bart Bartholomew's like, yeah, but I got left behind as a grunt.
Liz:And Cass is like, yeah.
Liz:Then also, you had a bad reputation for, like, I don't know, torture and murder.
Diana:Yeah, yeah, you got.
Diana:You know, this is what you got with your wins.
Diana:You became a torturing dick.
Diana:And he brings up the.
Diana:The point that angels follow orders, and that is their inherent nature.
Diana:And, well, angels just want to be in armies.
Diana:Like, they really just want to.
Diana:I feel like they're just drawn.
Diana:A lot of them feel like that's their nature.
Diana:At least that's what Bartholomew thinks.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:And Castiel is just like, but that's not you anymore.
Liz:Following orders.
Liz:And Bartholomew is like, no, I give them.
Diana:Give them.
Liz:He does.
Diana:Okay, Bart, whatever.
Liz:And then we get back to the little ego.
Liz:And.
Diana:Little ego.
Diana:My notes just say, in the box.
Diana:In the box.
Diana:Linda's in a box.
Liz:Oh, my gosh.
Liz:So, candy, through the radio, is explaining that there are three boxes side by side with her, Jerome and Linda.
Liz:So, um, there.
Liz:And we cut to a woman that is candy.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:Okay, I'm just gonna pause.
Diana:And now that you're saying, where the fuck is Jerome?
Liz:No one ever addresses Jerome.
Diana:We just.
Diana:For Jerome.
Diana:Just.
Diana:So we left him with a storage thing, didn't we?
Liz:Yes.
Diana:Oops.
Diana:Okay.
Diana:Carry on.
Liz:Left him with.
Liz:Left him with.
Liz:For crowd.
Diana:Unless maybe he's already dead.
Diana:Or is that maybe make that assumption?
Liz:Let's assume that maybe.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:So, we see candy in her cell, and it's like, bare concrete walls and metal door, like, us inside.
Liz:She's inside a fucking storage unit.
Liz:That's the story, anyways.
Liz:And then this is the episode of.
Diana:Storage wars that nobody expected, right?
Liz:And there's.
Liz:She explains there's two men.
Liz:One is short and british and loved hearing himself talk.
Diana:Oh, clearly, Crowley.
Liz:And then they were chained to the floor, and then.
Liz:But they.
Liz:But the british dude told her that she was worth more alive than dead, but then suddenly he just stopped showing up.
Liz:So it was just the second guy, and so he doesn't seem like he was as nice, so he tried to.
Liz:So she decided to escape, and she ran into the woods.
Liz:She was under the trestle, and she got stabbed from behind.
Liz:Said Linda might have survived, but she doesn't know what happened.
Liz:But at the.
Liz:But she said after what they experienced, she hopes Linda's dead.
Liz:Ooh, dark.
Diana:But we cut to a not dead Linda fucking Tran.
Liz:No, but she is screaming real loud when this dude enters the storage unit.
Liz:And that's distressing.
Diana:It is.
Diana:I don't like anybody who makes Miss Tran that, that stressed out.
Diana:It's not okay.
Liz:No.
Liz:No good.
Liz:No good.
Liz:So, Sam and Dean are going to start investigating storage units.
Liz:They figured out that candy was the kept woman of a congressman, and he very much liked her feats.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:Congressman with a foot fetish.
Diana:I'm shocked.
Diana:But Crowley was holding her for leverage against this politician, just like he was holding Linda Tran for leverage against Kevin.
Liz:But does it make sense to kill them, then?
Liz:That's the question mark here.
Liz:So, back at the Boyle ministries, is that where we are?
Liz:Bartholomew and Cas are walking and talking.
Liz:They're walking and talking.
Liz:And he's explaining how they purged the human allies and commandeered all of Boyle ministries and made all of the remaining humans their vessel, that the ones that could survive it, at least.
Diana:Wow.
Diana:Okay.
Diana:So, I mean, we kind of do that.
Diana:I mean, we're not that surprised.
Diana:Cass is, though.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:He's like, well, also, your followers want me dead.
Liz:I'm not sure that you don't want me dead, too.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:Are we friends?
Diana:Am I free to go?
Diana:What's going on?
Liz:And, and Bartholomew's like, of course, if I wanted to be dead, of course you're free to go.
Liz:It's fine.
Liz:Everything's fine.
Liz:We have to work together because we got to find Metatron.
Liz:We got to do it together, though, so we can restore heaven.
Liz:And we just need to get all these, like, little factions, just nip them so they won't be a problem later.
Liz:So we don't have other problems.
Liz:It's all for the recreator.
Liz:Good.
Liz:I know you don't like my methods, but it's fine.
Liz:We're just gonna take down Metatron together.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:That's cool.
Liz:It's fine.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:We're all good, right?
Liz:Totes.
Liz:People say that anymore?
Liz:I don't even know.
Liz:Anyways.
Diana: time buried in books from the: Diana:All right, so, we cut back to the storage place, and Dean has accurately predicted what the storage unit dude looks like.
Liz:Yeah, very much so.
Liz:And we have identified agents Nicks and McVie, which is a Fleetwood Mac reference.
Liz:There you go.
Liz:Um, so, they're like, we need to look at the rental record.
Liz:So, Dell, uh, calls to Barry to bring the rental binder, and while they're going through that, Sam also notices on the map that there's three units that are very separate from the rest.
Liz:And, like, that would probably be a good spot to hide some fucking people.
Liz:In prison, in a storage unit.
Liz:So, um.
Liz:Yeah, yeah.
Diana:And Sam notices that corridor Q has three units separate from the others, and they're all leased by Daniel Webster.
Diana:Yes.
Liz:Which is a joke about the devil and Daniel Webster.
Liz:So, obviously, those are definitely Crowley's.
Liz:Yes.
Diana: ent Bonet that was written in: Diana:It's about a New Hampshire farmer who sells his soul to the devil and is later defended by a fictionalized Daniel Webster, who was a real person, a 19th century statesman, lawyer, and orator.
Diana:And the narrative does reference real events in the lives of Webster and his family.
Diana:So that's kind of creepy a little bit.
Diana:And.
Diana:But it's also something that has been parodied a lot.
Diana:So you'll see it on things like here in the Simpsons.
Liz:So there you go.
Liz:So, um, Dell overhears that.
Liz:He's like, oh, yeah.
Liz:That same person's also leasing some spots on the other side of the property, too.
Liz:Why don't I show you there?
Liz:Those.
Liz:So Sam's like, cool.
Liz:I'm gonna go look at these three.
Liz:Dean, you go with, quote, del, the funky homo sapien.
Diana:Yes.
Diana:Let's split up and go our separate ways.
Diana:Whatever could go wrong and make an.
Liz:Old hip hop reference.
Liz:Anyways, so Del and Dean are in this storage unit that definitely doesn't look like a storage unit that Crowley would have.
Liz:It just does not make sense at all for Crowley.
Liz:On the other side of the property, Sam gets to corridor Q and picks a lock.
Liz:And in the first one, he finds Linda Tran.
Liz:Yes.
Liz:She's alive.
Liz:Yay.
Liz:And he's like, we've got.
Liz:And she's like, we have to get out before he comes back.
Liz:And then she's asking if Kevin's with him.
Liz:And then the door closes because there's a camera in there and someone remotely did that.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:And.
Diana:But when she asks if Kevin's with him, which just heartbreaking because you know that she doesn't know.
Diana:And it's already starting to weigh on Sam.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:And Sam notices a camera, and we.
Liz:Know we cut to Dell, who definitely has a phone in hand, looking at the camera feed and closing the doors on them.
Liz:So we know Dell's a bad guy.
Liz:And Dean is.
Liz:Look.
Liz:Is getting suss about this storage unit.
Liz:Right around that time, Del pulls out a blackjack and knocks Dean out.
Liz:I think that's what that's called.
Diana:Yep, that's a blackjack.
Liz:So Sam and Linda are trapped in one storage unit.
Liz:Dean is unconscious in the other with.
Diana:Dell, and we kept back to boils.
Liz:Boil ministries, whatever you want to call.
Diana:I like calling heaven's waiting room, but, you know, like.
Diana:Because it's.
Diana:But whatever.
Diana:So, Bart has identified three locations where Metatron has been on earth.
Liz:So he's.
Liz:He's got a pretty impressive operations room.
Diana:Here, by the way.
Liz:That was pretty neat, but.
Liz:And he's wants Castiel to lure Metatron because they think that will help get Metatron exposed, at least.
Liz:And he thinks that it'll be so powerful for the new boss, being Bartholomew and Castiel, the ultimate rebel, working together, it'll send a message to all the dissidents that resistance is futile.
Liz:Isn't that the Borg?
Diana:Something like that.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:He's just laying it on super, super thick and about what they could accomplish, and then somebody gets drugged, and, oh, no.
Diana:It's our guy from earlier.
Liz:It's the funeral.
Liz:Funeral.
Liz:Angel.
Liz:And Bartholomew is like, yeah, we're gonna torture him and kill him now.
Liz:Cool, cool, cool.
Liz:Let's do this together, buddy.
Liz:So, back in the storage unit, though, Sam has.
Liz:Is trying to.
Liz:He has successfully picked the locks on Linda, trans chains holding her to the floor, and she's like, look, by the way, there's power lines, right?
Liz:Or electrical, you know, conduit right there to this powered lock.
Liz:You should go work on that.
Liz:And then she stops Sam from working on it and does it herself because she used to help Kevin with his engineering assignments.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:And she knows what, what wire is, which, where they go, and basically can fix this in, like, a flat minute.
Diana:And Sam doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, so she still doesn't know that Kevin is dead, though, and asks him if they left him someplace safe.
Diana:And, I mean, I guess, technically, dead in the bunker is safe.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Sam says, of course, and then he stops her, and then she knows, but she's like, nope.
Liz:You're still gonna take me to my son.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:I'm like, why are you stopping to tell her about.
Diana:He said, this seems like a wait until you're out of the scary situation type thing, right?
Liz:On the other side of the bunk of the bunker of the storage.
Liz:Contain.
Liz:Storage unit place.
Diana:I have other side of the bunker, too.
Diana:Technically, I guess, it is a bunker.
Diana:It's just a different bunker, kind of.
Diana:It's a storage unit, so.
Liz:Bunker.
Liz:Bunkery.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:But Dean is awaking on the floor, looking at a very drained Barry because Barry's throat has been slit to make a blood bowl.
Liz:Phone.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:Sorry, Barry.
Diana:Ew.
Diana:He says, honey buckets I don't even know.
Diana:It's just all I have in there is, ew.
Diana:Honey buckets.
Liz:Well, then Dell wants to go on his a little bit of a rant about being roped into this job by Crowley for essentially an internship.
Liz:It's sold that the position would be more.
Liz:And he's just very cranky about it.
Liz:And he's like, Crowley won't even return calls, and he's not allowed to kill anybody.
Liz:He's supposed to protect these people, and that's sick.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:Doesn't he have basic demon needs and rights?
Diana:Yeah, he's like a demon, incel is what I figured out.
Diana:He was just saying, why do the girls like me?
Liz:Me?
Diana:I have needs.
Diana:I.
Diana:But then they also, like, when they show, like, the knife and Dean shoes, like, the witcher kind of.
Diana:Like, they're really nice shoes.
Diana:And I think they're probably dead man shoes.
Diana:I was looking at them because they were kind of cool, like, kind of vintagey looking, like boots.
Diana:Shoes.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:But they were like, they were nice to go with his suit.
Diana:And I'm like, yeah, I bet he took them from some dead dudes clothes.
Liz:I'm sure he did.
Liz:So, yeah.
Liz:And, but Dell also thinks that, that he's going to get credit for catching the Winchesters.
Liz:And Dean's like, yeah, except for the fact that, like, we're, like, cool now with Crowley, which is probably an exaggeration.
Liz:He's like, yeah.
Liz:We're, like, been hanging out.
Liz:We're on the stage.
Liz:They're, like, acting.
Liz:They're, like, super tight, is what Dean says.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:He's just like, we're super friends.
Diana:He's like, wait.
Diana:That's where Crowley's been?
Diana:He's out partying with Hunter?
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:And so Del is super mad, and he's gonna quit.
Liz:And his.
Liz:No.
Liz:He's gonna quit his no kill job.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:So he rage quits.
Diana:And sometimes you just gotta do that.
Liz:Well, Bartholomew is now torturing our angel from the funeral, and he is the last one of Rebecca's faction.
Liz:And he instructs Cassiel to finish him.
Liz:And he's saying, like, I know I brought you.
Liz:You know, I I know that Castiel didn't have it in you back in the battlefield.
Liz:Time to kill those prisoners.
Liz:But I know you've killed a buck ton of people since then, so let's do this.
Liz:And he's like, Cassiel's like, no, that's just not who I am.
Liz:And I'm not going to prove myself to you by doing this.
Liz:That's just not gonna happen.
Liz:And, uh, yeah, he's like, by the way, I was never free to leave here, was I?
Liz:Kind of dawns on it.
Diana:And I'm like, oh, no.
Diana:But I think he also needs that.
Diana:And he was like, my only choice, though, is to obey or be killed.
Diana:I choose death.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:He hands an angel aid to Bartholomew, and Bartholomew stabs our.
Liz:Our other guy.
Liz:And then we cut back to our storage unit, where Del is now very excited just to kill Dean because he just.
Liz:He's now he's gonna kill because he quit his job.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:He's regaining his power, which is like, you know what happens sometimes when you just tell that.
Diana:You tell that corporate hell machine to go fuck itself and you just gain that sense of autonomy back, right?
Diana:And I know that's what he's feeling.
Diana:And so he's just about to use a stab dean, but unfortunately, Sam busted.
Liz:Yep.
Liz:Bursts his bubble back at Boyle ministries.
Liz:Bartholomew is like, oh, he's all pissed now.
Liz:He's like, oh, Castiello thought you were better.
Liz:Meh.
Liz:And we're gonna fight now.
Liz:Meh.
Liz:And he's punching Cas.
Liz:And Cas is like, I want to end angels fighting angels.
Liz:So this is not.
Liz:This is exactly what we're doing.
Liz:So Bartholomew is going to stab him, but Castiel blocks.
Liz:We have a good little fight, and then Castile flips the script.
Liz:He's going to win.
Liz:He's going to be.
Liz:He could stab Bartholomew, but he shows mercy and he walks away.
Diana:Of course.
Diana:He's like, you know, he is just then, he's just like, what are you now?
Diana:I am nothing.
Diana:Oh, God.
Diana:A little much, Bart.
Diana:A little much.
Diana:There can be no peace without bloodshed.
Diana:No.
Liz:And then.
Liz:No, of course.
Liz:Castiel turns to leave, and so Bartholomew runs at him to kill him from behind.
Liz:But bar.
Liz:But Cas knew he was gonna do it, so Cas kills him.
Diana:Yeah, don't.
Diana:Don't try and stab people in the back part.
Diana:So no more Bartholomew.
Diana:Bartholomew is now bitten the dust.
Liz:Yes.
Liz:So.
Liz:And Castiel just walks out as you do.
Diana:What else are you gonna do?
Diana:So he leaves.
Diana:And then we go back to our storage place.
Diana:And Dell is in the cool handcuffs.
Liz:Yeah, I know.
Diana:Somebody has to have made those.
Diana:I need to look at Etsy for them.
Diana:Or at least I need to get.
Diana:I need to buy some handcuffs and start etching things into them, maybe.
Liz:Well, they have given.
Liz:Sounds like something out of Tran is now holding on to the demon blade so she can kill Del.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:And that.
Diana:I do love that scene.
Diana:Right, because they're just where there is, like, he's like, oh, you're gonna kill me now?
Diana:They're like, no, we're saving you for someone else.
Diana:And he thinks it's gonna be Crowley.
Diana:And he's just like, oh, and here comes a pissed off Linda fucking Tran.
Liz:Yep.
Liz:She takes him out and says, take me to my son.
Liz:Boom.
Liz:Well.
Diana:And he doesn't even get to finish saying, I was just following orders.
Liz:No, he's trying.
Diana:Yeah, but I think, you know, that's just, that's the thing, you know, just because you're following orders, you can still be a piece of shit and get killed by Linda fucking tranh.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:At the bunker, Sam and Dean yell out for Kevin, and he does appear, and they're kind of trying to prep him for the fact that they have.
Liz:That they've got miss Tran there and.
Diana:Which is sweet.
Diana:And then she comes in, and I was just, like, so damn emotional.
Diana:I think at that point, I just started bawling.
Liz:And there.
Liz:And so they.
Liz:So Kevin and Linda are able to have their moment.
Liz:Brother and son are reunited elsewhere in the bunker.
Liz:Later, Dean and Linda are going through Kevin's things, which seems very upsetting.
Diana:It is very upsetting.
Diana:I was very upset during all of this.
Diana:And then she finds his dad's ring, and she thinks it's what his spirit is bound to.
Diana:And this, again, kind of gives up the question of, who the fuck is Kevin Tran's dad?
Liz:Right.
Diana:And we.
Diana:So there's a couple of things that kind of go in and out of here, you know, because Crowley had said once when that he learned while he was possessing her, that Crowley's mom had an affair and that Kevin's dad wasn't the dad that he thought it was.
Diana:But then this is like, Kevin's dad died when he was a baby.
Diana:And then there was.
Diana:I think at one point, there was a mister Tran, like, work like, way in one of the earlier things.
Diana:He has a continuity problem.
Liz:Yes, we do.
Liz:Definitely.
Liz:I agree.
Liz:So, yeah, super weird.
Liz:And Dean's.
Liz:So Linda's going to take the ring.
Liz:She's taking Kevin with her and going home.
Liz:And Dean's like, I just want you to know that since we don't know what's going on with heaven right now, there's.
Liz:There are some extra risks here.
Liz:And I don't.
Liz:I don't know if this is the best idea.
Liz:And she's like, nope.
Liz:It's my job.
Liz:I'm taking him.
Liz:I'm gonna keep him safe.
Diana:Yeah, because if you don't remember being in the veil makes ghosts nutbacks, aka what happened.
Diana:But Bobby was already eventful.
Diana:See, and I think that's different, though.
Diana:Not every ghost is a vengeful spirit.
Diana:No, I don't think they all necessarily go that way anyhow.
Diana:So we can go from there back to the cemetery from the beginning, where Rebecca's grave is at.
Liz:Yeah, because Castiel is there visiting the grave of Rebecca's vessel, and he is apologizing for creating chaos and being unable to fix things, and he wants to.
Liz:He lost, you know, he wants to try a new way of things.
Liz:And then one of Bardi's Bartholomew's henchmen is there.
Liz:One of the henchmen angels shows up.
Diana:And he gives them the Valentine's day card that says, I choo choo, choose you.
Liz:He's like.
Liz:He's like, I thought I had no choice, but you showed me that I did have a choice.
Liz:You're our leader now.
Liz:We'll follow you.
Liz:And I'm not the only one.
Liz:There's two more angels with him.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:So once again, we have cast as a reluctant leader.
Liz:So now we have another faction again.
Liz:All right, so back in the bunker, Kevin is very upset.
Liz:He's talking about how his mom was held and tortured for a year because of him.
Liz:Good lord.
Liz:And that's his responsibility.
Liz:So it's cute.
Liz:You got Linda saying it's her responsibility to keep Kevin safe, and Kevin saying it's his responsibility to look out for his.
Diana:Yeah, he's blaming himself.
Diana:It's.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:And Sam's like, we failed you.
Liz:And he's like, Kevin's like, no, it wasn't you.
Liz:It was.
Liz:You know, and because Sam's trying to take the blame for killing Kevin, and he's like, no, no, I know that wasn't you.
Liz:What you need to do is go fucking get that Gadriel asshole, though.
Diana:Yep.
Diana:So if you heal him, we can call it square.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:And dean's like, whatever.
Liz:Just don't thank us now.
Liz:Thank us when we get you to heaven.
Liz:And enjoy your time with your mom.
Liz:Enjoy your time with your mom.
Liz:Sounds like an insult.
Diana:Your mom, man.
Diana:But when you're grown up, you realize that, yes, enjoying time with mom is a good thing.
Liz:Special.
Liz:So Kevin, though, asks them for one more thing.
Liz:He wants them to promise to, quote, get over it about all their drama and fighting.
Liz:It's stupid.
Liz:And they're both still here, so knock it off.
Liz:Yep.
Diana:So Kevin is now the voice of the audience and telling them that it's stupid, and he's always.
Diana:Like, my mom is taking home a ghost, you fuckers.
Diana:Like, you're both alive.
Diana:Get a gratitude journal or something.
Diana:Right, so.
Diana:But we got the reunification of Kevin and Linda Tran, and before they walk away, I think it's time for us to quiz Diana on what she remembers about Kevin and Linda Tran, or just what she knows in general.
Diana:So, I have no idea what we're calling this quiz besides a quiz about Kevin and Linda fucking Tran.
Diana:So that's what this quiz is called.
Diana:And so, are you ready?
Liz:Sure.
Diana:Okay.
Diana:Your first question, because.
Diana:Okay, I wrote this question badly.
Diana:Oh, okay.
Diana:The fact that he has traits of being funny and generous, as well as his birthday, being December 2, makes Kevin.
Diana:What Zodiac sign?
Diana:What does Kevin feel like to you?
Liz:Let's go with a.
Liz:Oh, I don't know.
Liz:Leo?
Diana:He's a Sagittarius.
Diana:Leos are in August.
Liz:I was just thinking about who I knew and what they had.
Liz:I was a liberty and generous.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:Okay, that was your only one about the Zodiac?
Diana:Okay, question number two.
Diana:When Kevin first learned he was a prophet of the Lord, what did he tell Sam and Dean?
Diana:He instead just wanted to be.
Liz:Oh, no, I forgot something with his, like, school stuff.
Liz:I thought.
Liz:I can't remember for sure.
Diana:No, he wanted to be the first asian american president.
Liz:That's president.
Liz:President.
Liz:Ah, that's right.
Diana:Also, when he was called to be a prophet of the Lord, what instrument was Kevin playing?
Liz:Was it violin?
Diana:Cello?
Liz:Strings?
Diana:You saw.
Diana:You're in the string area, at least you.
Diana:Question number four.
Diana:What Ivy League school was Kevin applying to?
Liz:Columbia.
Liz:I'm bad today on this one.
Diana:There's an episode where they called what's up, tiger mommy.
Diana:Does that help?
Liz:No, I'm sure that's a reference to the mascot.
Diana:But that was Princeton.
Liz:Princeton.
Diana:They have the tigers.
Liz:I actually know a sports team that I didn't.
Liz:I'm impressed.
Diana:I give you a sports clue.
Liz:Weird.
Liz:What is happening?
Liz:I'm gonna bomb on this.
Liz:For someone that likes these characters so much, it's terrible embarrassed.
Diana:Let's try this.
Diana:I didn't give you a lot of crutches and multiple choice in this, but they would just be too obvious.
Diana:Okay, number five, you never forget your first.
Diana:Who was the first villain to hold Linda Tran hostage?
Liz:Who?
Liz:First to hold her hostage.
Diana:She's been held hostage so many times.
Liz:I know.
Liz:Dang.
Liz:I want to say it was.
Liz:Is it lucifer?
Diana:No, it was Dick Romande.
Liz:Oh, that's right.
Liz:Shit.
Diana:Okay, and that was in season seven.
Diana:There will be blood.
Diana:All right, question number six.
Diana:What state does Linda Trans brother live in?
Liz:I don't know.
Liz:Why?
Liz:I have a state in my head.
Liz:I'm just gonna say it.
Liz:And I want to say Tennessee.
Diana:You're close.
Diana:It's Wyoming.
Diana:You're not close at all.
Liz:Because he's the tax in business.
Diana:Yeah, that's why I went with what state he was in.
Diana:So he was the wyoming.
Diana:He worked in the Wyoming tax successor's office.
Liz:Oh, terrible.
Diana:All right, I'm gonna give you one that I actually did.
Diana:This is the.
Diana:I think this is your only multiple choice.
Diana:Okay.
Diana:Both Kevin and linda wanna make bombs.
Diana:Demon bombs.
Liz:Right.
Diana:According to Kevin in the demon tablet, the first three ingredients are west bank witch hazel, skull of egyptian cat, and this is it.
Diana:A random ass newt that may or not be extinct.
Diana:B, a very specific toad that can lick its own butt.
Diana:C, the button of an angry rattlesnake.
Diana:Or d, the feather of a fallen angel.
Liz:I think it's a.
Liz:But it could be.
Liz:Djdehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe it is a.
Diana:It is a.
Diana:D.
Diana:D has been used as ingredients and other spells, which is why I threw that in there.
Diana:I also thought that a toad that can lick its own butt whiz was very appreciated.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:Yeah, I remember.
Liz:Then.
Liz:The newt.
Liz:Random ass nude.
Diana:Random ass nude.
Diana:That may or may not be extinct.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:Number eight.
Diana:While on Garth's houseboat, the fizzles folly.
Diana:What food does Kevin almost od on?
Liz:Hot dogs.
Diana:That is correct.
Diana:Stolen hot dog.
Diana:Real bad.
Diana:Number nine, what alias does Kevin use in devil may care when he threatens Sergeant Miranda Bates in her wrong uniform with her pictures from Cabo?
Diana:I forgot.
Diana:I don't remember.
Diana:It's a nerd thing.
Liz:Oh, I know.
Liz:That's something from Star Trek or Star wars.
Diana:Yeah, that's from Star wars.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:That's why I don't remember how.
Diana:Star Trek.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:It's Kevin freaking solo.
Liz:That's.
Diana:All right.
Diana:Your last question, and I probably should give you multiple choices because it's gonna be really hard.
Liz:Let's go with it.
Diana:Always thinking about someone else.
Diana:Kevin's last words, pre ghost, were about who?
Liz:Huh?
Liz:Because where.
Liz:What were they doing before that wasn't.
Liz:Were they talking about trying to think who they were talking about?
Liz:I don't remember.
Liz:I'm gonna say, Garth.
Diana:It was Dean.
Liz:Dean.
Liz:Okay.
Diana:Because when Sandriel walks up to him and Kevin's last words that are.
Diana:Hey, do you notice anything a little bit off about Dean lately?
Diana:Between you and me, I'm a little bit worried about him.
Diana:And then sad.
Liz:Rude.
Diana:So rude.
Diana:So that was the Kevin and Linda fucking Tranquiz.
Liz:Damn.
Diana:Diana is not an expert on nothing.
Liz:Not next.
Diana:It's okay.
Diana:You can study next time.
Diana:Oh.
Diana:So back at our bunker, the trans are leaving and the boys have promised to end their bullshit.
Liz:But as soon as Kevin and Linda are gone, Sam just walks away and closes himself in a room.
Liz:So Dean just goes back to his room, picks up his headphones and listens.
Liz:Picks up where he was in the song lonely is the night.
Liz:So they lied to cabin.
Diana:Of course they did.
Liz:Rude.
Diana:So rude.
Diana:All right, so do we have some cast members to talk about?
Liz:We've got a couple thoughts.
Liz:Yeah, we've got a couple.
Liz:Casting couch.
Diana:It's the casting couch.
Speaker C:What they are that show, that time with that guy.
Liz:La, la, la.
Liz:So we've got our dell was played by James Imakus.
Liz:He's been in episodes of House, charmed Bones, medium, grey's anatomy, ghost whisperer, mad Men, justified, CSI, once upon a time.
Liz:A few times.
Liz:Lucifer C a few times.
Liz:And NCIS Aliyah is what the note said.
Liz:Our other ghost is our ghost.
Liz:Angel is.
Liz:So that was Dustin Schwartz.
Liz:He's been episodes of Smallville, Bates Motel and the magicians.
Liz:Candy was played by Linda Rosleregh, and she's been in episodes of Republic of Doyle and Killjoys.
Liz:And then she was the publicist in the film I'm not there.
Liz:That was that Bob Dylan movie.
Liz:And then our first angel was played by Reid Morgan, who has been in episodes of Nikita.
Liz:The second angel henchman was Ben Sullivan, who's been in episodes of Hell on Wheels, eye, zombie, Supergirl, magician, siren and Riverdale.
Liz:And Barry, our poor attendant who got used for a blood bowl phone that never even got used.
Diana:Yeah, Kelly wouldn't answer the phone.
Diana:How long can you, like, reuse the blood bowl?
Diana:Like, is it just, like, one time?
Liz:That'd be wasteful.
Diana:It does seem kind of wasteful.
Diana:But also blood coagulates and dries.
Diana:So, I mean, at first, like, it's like highlight poking through, like that cheese film.
Diana:Yeah.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Scoop off the skin.
Diana:Scoop off the skin.
Diana:You know.
Liz:Well, Barry was played by Brendan Riggs, and he's been episodes of Van Helsing, charm, space Force, blockbuster, resident alien, and animal control.
Liz:So, yeah, there we go.
Diana:Animal control is a fun show.
Liz:It is a fun show.
Diana:It is.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:There's nothing redeeming about it.
Diana:It's just.
Diana:Just a fun show.
Liz:Yeah.
Liz:Yep.
Liz:So, yeah, that's our cast for this one.
Liz:Um, so, yeah, you tricked the thoughts.
Liz:Well, I did not trick you.
Liz:Kevin said you did tell me the truth.
Liz:But then I started to wonder.
Liz:I thought, it's real weird when you asked if something.
Liz:You asked me something about doing a Kevin and Linda tranquil.
Liz:What are you talking about?
Liz:But, okay.
Liz:And then this episode.
Liz:And I was like, what?
Liz:So that was, I guess, like, you technically gave me a hint on accident, but I think I asked you after.
Diana:You watched the episode.
Liz:I don't remember.
Diana:Yeah, but.
Diana:But still.
Diana:Yes, it's very exciting to have the return of the trans.
Liz:Yes.
Liz:We like them.
Liz:They're great characters.
Liz:And then I think, though, for this episode, um, I don't.
Liz:I think that I'm glad to have freaking put, you know, on, tied off the story about Linda.
Liz:We know where Linda is.
Liz:They didn't just forget about her and leave her.
Diana:I think now they left us with the Jerome story.
Liz:Well, yeah, they left hanging on that one.
Diana:Now we have a new.
Diana:Who the fuck is Jerome?
Diana:Where is.
Diana:Why did you leave him?
Liz:Is he dead?
Liz:Why does Crowley have him?
Liz:All the things.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:Is who has.
Diana:Who has a foot fetish.
Diana:Like, does.
Diana:Who's.
Diana:Who's kept woman is Jerome.
Liz:Well, and I think what's.
Liz:What interesting about this episode is really the only thing that's driving the story in this episode is the Castiel storyline.
Liz:Like, yes, it's nice to have the Linda thing tied up.
Liz:I'm not knocking that in any way at all.
Liz:And I guess Kevin drove it a little bit by being like, by the way, heaven's fucking closed.
Liz:Shit's fucked in the veil.
Liz:Like, those were important.
Liz:But really, like, the whole, like, captivity story didn't really further the overarching season, in my opinion.
Liz:But I don't know yet because I haven't seen the whole season fair.
Diana:I mean, what episode are.
Diana:We're in 14 now?
Diana:Yeah, I think they're really.
Diana:I mean, the big bad this season is Booger, right?
Diana:For the most part.
Diana:And by this is also pretty late for them to have figured out that we're episode 14, that no one getting into heaven like that seems like something y'all should have figured out a while back.
Liz:They should know.
Liz:Somebody should have told you.
Diana:A reaper should say something like, you would think that would be it.
Diana:Why haven't we dealt with Reaper?
Diana:I don't reapers this season, but.
Liz:No, not really this season.
Diana:This is what happens when you get to season nine.
Diana:There are some things that maybe run together.
Diana:And the also reason I had to text Diana and ask her if we'd had a Linda or Kevin Tranquiz because I couldn't just Google search my notes for those people because they're in here a lot.
Diana:They're in there a lot.
Liz:So, yeah, I think there was.
Liz:I think it was interesting.
Liz:I did not mind the story.
Liz:I thought it was a good story.
Liz:I found Del entertaining.
Liz:I did find it a little odd that this, we weren't doing a lot to propel the seasonal story with the brothers other than the heaven component and the fact that they're still fighting.
Diana:Yeah.
Diana:I mean, but, you know, we kind of come in and out of the seasonal opponent on this show a lot, so.
Liz:We do.
Liz:We do.
Diana:It's not that surprising at all.
Diana:And, hey, you know, we got.
Diana:Kevin can materialize now, but that also you.
Diana:The Kevin and Linda story was used to explain the veil, right?
Liz:Yes.
Diana:So I think without that, you wouldn't have had.
Liz:That's true.
Liz:No, that's true.
Liz:You're right.
Diana:You allow it.
Liz:We let them succeed.
Liz:I'll concede.
Liz:But either way, I enjoyed the episode.
Liz:I thought it was a fun episode overall, actually, even though with the creepy angel war aspect and the creepy storage units, like, I don't know, there's very creepy episode to enjoy if I did.
Diana:Yeah, it's a good episode.
Liz:Yeah.
Diana:All right.
Diana:I think that's gonna sum it up.
Diana:So on that note, two start.
Liz:Cheers, bets.
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Liz:In the sky.
Liz:That's where I'm gonna go when I die when I die in the lady I'm gonna go to the place that.
