Welcome to another episode of Websites Made Simple, the podcast designed for website designers and developers who want to build thriving businesses without losing their sanity.
I’m Holly Christie, website designer, mentor, and straight-talking website design advocate, and today we’re tackling one of the most common challenges in the web design world: how to attract more clients... especially those perfect-fit, dream clients who really get your vibe.
In this episode, I’ll guide you through practical, actionable strategies for filling your client list with people who love what you do.
Whether you’re just starting out or looking to uplevel your web design business, this episode is packed with advice to help you stand out, stay true to yourself, and attract a steady stream of clients who value your unique skills.
00:00 Authentic Branding Through Personal Design
06:08 Website Messaging for Sales Success
07:12 Social Media Messaging Consistency Guide
11:22 "Building Trust Through Expertise"
14:50 Display Prices on Your Website
18:13 "Focus and Clarify Your Offers"
20:37 Collaborate to Avoid Scope Creep
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Getting clients for your website design business is one of the
Speaker:things that website designers struggle with the most.
Speaker:And that is generally because Scope creep red
Speaker:flag clients. A steady stream of really
Speaker:perfect fit ideal clients clients, clients, clients.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Holly. I'm from Websites Made simple, the podcast for
Speaker:website designers and developers to have an absolutely
Speaker:stunning, stellar career without pulling your hair out for it.
Speaker:In today's episode, I am going to walk you through how to get
Speaker:more clients for your website design business. Because trust
Speaker:me, building websites and attracting clients to those websites
Speaker:are two different things. As a website designer's
Speaker:mentor, this comes up over and over again. In fact, I
Speaker:actually call it one of my big three. The three things that people
Speaker:consistently come to me with. How to get clients for their website business.
Speaker:How to deal with scope creep in their business. How to
Speaker:recognize and deal with red flag clients in their business.
Speaker:Now, I have actually already done episodes on Scope Creep
Speaker:and Red flag clients, and I am sure there will be some more coming out
Speaker:as well. But today, this episode is for you. If you
Speaker:are struggling to get not only a steady stream of
Speaker:clients, but a steady, steady stream of really
Speaker:perfect fit ideal clients, I promise you they
Speaker:are out there and this is how we're going to get them
Speaker:kicking off. I want you to sit back, close your
Speaker:eyes and think. How do you feel when
Speaker:you are absolutely intrinsically you.
Speaker:What does that look like? Does it look like
Speaker:a very professional veneer, which some people are, you know, some people
Speaker:are just very kind of professional and yeah, that's great. Do you
Speaker:have that witchy, gothy Persona that I know a lot of web
Speaker:designers have and you go on their websites and they're really good fun
Speaker:as well. Are you creative? Are you playful?
Speaker:Let's just take one word that really encapsulates not only
Speaker:who you really truly feel you are, but how you would
Speaker:like to be known for. What would that word be? And
Speaker:let's start there. Because something that I often notice
Speaker:is that website designers try to present
Speaker:themselves as the person they think the client wants them to be.
Speaker:And this isn't always in line with the
Speaker:person that they actually are. And when we create a website
Speaker:for ourselves, and we try and create it
Speaker:with us being someone who we feel like we've playing up
Speaker:to the camera with, it means that the website doesn't have that
Speaker:cohesion that we're actually looking for, that's going to earn
Speaker:the trust of the people that we're trying to get there as well. And you're
Speaker:much better to just throw that idea out
Speaker:and design for something that is completely you. It's like people
Speaker:say to me, why have you got so much pink on your website, Holly? And
Speaker:I'm like, that's me back when I got married. Years and years ago, I wore
Speaker:a pink wedding dress. I'm recording this from my pink living room.
Speaker:I live and breathe that. And while I'm not the girliest girl, the pink
Speaker:has become synonymous with my brand. People have said, oh, but don't
Speaker:you want to work with men as well? I do work with men as well,
Speaker:but they see past the pink and they just see what I want them to
Speaker:see of the brand, that really kind of professional, cohesive one.
Speaker:But I've been working today on a website with a website
Speaker:designer who is putting her new website out there.
Speaker:And she's got this really cool, witchy, gothy kind of
Speaker:vibe going on. And I can see the type of people who are going to
Speaker:want to work with her as well, because people buy
Speaker:from people as we know. They want to
Speaker:see the bits of their personality that they really
Speaker:like kind of reflected on the website page that's there in front of
Speaker:them as well. I have had so many people come to
Speaker:me wanting again, those witchy, gothy kind of websites
Speaker:and I was lucky for a long time. I had someone on my team, Amy,
Speaker:who really kind of met that profile and she created a lot of the websites
Speaker:while we worked together. And I can design those, of course I
Speaker:can. As web developers, we can just design anything, really. But I'd much
Speaker:rather pass that on to someone who just absolutely had that
Speaker:vibe. So the lesson here is, if you
Speaker:feel that you are not putting
Speaker:the whole proper you out there,
Speaker:then really stop and consider how many
Speaker:people out there would really love to work with someone like you
Speaker:and are just not finding that kind of personality
Speaker:match, that mirror being held back to them. So please don't
Speaker:hold back.
Speaker:Our second thing is work out your messaging before you build
Speaker:or rebuild your website. Otherwise you're just going to feel like
Speaker:that puzzle piece that just doesn't quite fit. You know, the one where you wish
Speaker:you could take that hacksaw too and just hack the end off just so you
Speaker:can squish it in there. But you don't need to do that because one of
Speaker:the great things about web design is this business is yours and
Speaker:you get to build and shape your little corner of the Internet however
Speaker:you want to do it. So don't hold back. Don't think,
Speaker:oh, I think my client will want to hear this. Just put it
Speaker:out there as it is. But make sure your messaging
Speaker:is something that you're really aligned with because you're going to be
Speaker:using this a lot. And as you get more experience, that
Speaker:messaging will start to naturally update. I mean, my messaging
Speaker:used to always be when I started out is homemade websites don't
Speaker:make sales. That's great. But I don't work with anyone now who
Speaker:has even tried or wanted to do a homemade website.
Speaker:And so my messaging has evolved in that space. And a lot of my
Speaker:messaging is your website should be bringing in leads and making sales
Speaker:even while you sleep. And trust me, as web designers, you know
Speaker:that this is possible. But trust me, I often wake up to
Speaker:notifications saying that people have bought my courses, that they bought my
Speaker:web designer's contract pack, that other sales have gone on. It has
Speaker:all happened while I've been asleep. It also happens for my clients as well.
Speaker:So really work out what your messaging is because
Speaker:this is really going to be the mountain that you die on. Get
Speaker:really clear about it, get a journal, jot it down, kind of throw out
Speaker:some phrases, think, what do I really believe about
Speaker:the websites I build? What do I really believe about the process
Speaker:of working with me? What do my reviews from my past clients tell
Speaker:me? Look at all of this and start to really dig
Speaker:into that detail there about that messaging because this is going to become really
Speaker:important. And if you are struggling to
Speaker:work out this messaging, I do have a course on the Websites Made
Speaker:simple website which is how to get clients for your web design business.
Speaker:And it's got a workbook that goes alongside it and it's got loads of prompts
Speaker:on how to work out this messaging for you as well. So when you do
Speaker:have your messaging and this could just be a straight strong as
Speaker:a message with a tagline there, you're going to
Speaker:need to really rework this messaging into your social channels.
Speaker:You need real consistency. Consistency is what
Speaker:gets clients. And I know every now and then we can be really tempted
Speaker:to think I'm just going to throw out a post about this or I'm going
Speaker:to throw out a post about that. And yeah, that's fine. Let people
Speaker:have an insight into stuff you do outside of websites by all
Speaker:means, but make sure the main focus of your
Speaker:business are your social channels. If you're
Speaker:struggling with how to get stuff across on your social channels,
Speaker:then we can look at that. I offer some mentoring. I've also
Speaker:got really exciting membership for website developers coming up in September. We
Speaker:can work on that together. But right now, get your messaging sorted,
Speaker:make sure it is absolutely intrinsically you,
Speaker:and then you are going to build your website. As you
Speaker:build or rebuild your website, I am going to just give you these
Speaker:words, imposter syndrome be damned. Because
Speaker:often this is the point where imposter syndrome will kick
Speaker:in. You'll have it all worked out on paper, or digitally on paper, in
Speaker:my case. You'll have it all there and you'll go to build and
Speaker:then you'll probably head to the kitchen to make a cup of tea or you'll
Speaker:put the TV on for this, or suddenly that pile of ironing looks really
Speaker:tempting even though you haven't ironed since 2000.
Speaker:Yeah, imposter syndrome shows up in loads of different ways. And
Speaker:as a website designer, it can be really hard to
Speaker:get past that and get through it because it's not only
Speaker:you building your website, but it's your website should be
Speaker:pretty much the best representation of your work. And you also know that
Speaker:there's going to be other website designers out there who are going to be looking
Speaker:at your website. They're going to be trying to find it lacking
Speaker:in comparison to theirs. Your job is to push through
Speaker:because as Dave Grohl was once quoted as saying,
Speaker:no one is you and that is your power. Let's say
Speaker:it again, no one is you and that is your power. So it doesn't matter
Speaker:what other people's websites have on them. It doesn't matter what other features
Speaker:or functions or how well designed they have or, you know,
Speaker:whatever else. It just doesn't matter. What really matters is
Speaker:that you build a website that you feel fully reflects you,
Speaker:that you're really happy with, to put out there and which is going to
Speaker:give you that platform to get clients over to
Speaker:as well. So get going with your website. Get
Speaker:going, get building, go forth and build. Hit, publish.
Speaker:When you've done that, you need to keep your blog updated, and
Speaker:you need to keep your blog updated with things that people actually
Speaker:want to read about. So if you head over to my website
Speaker:for clients, it's thisdemandinglife.com you will see
Speaker:the blog has it's time for a new website. It will have why
Speaker:we choose WordPress for our website. So it will have how to
Speaker:choose a designer or developer for the website. It has a blog that
Speaker:says why I have two different web design services and what the differences.
Speaker:It has a blog about process. All of my clients who are
Speaker:thinking about working with me, they don't need to know
Speaker:how to do something on my website because they're not interested in doing it on
Speaker:their website. They're interested what the process of working with me looks like
Speaker:or when they're going to get a return on their investments, or lots of
Speaker:little things about the process, which also helps them
Speaker:to choose to work with me because I'm essentially giving them information that lots of
Speaker:other websites designers aren't. I'm saying this is the timescale, this is the process,
Speaker:this is the software. You know, there's a real transparency there.
Speaker:But I can't tell you how, back in the day, how many blogs
Speaker:I wrote of how to do this, how to add an image on your website,
Speaker:how to use Lottie files on your website, how to do this, how to do
Speaker:that. And they never really got anywhere or did anything. And then
Speaker:I realized, with the help of my mentor at the time, that
Speaker:people wanted me to do that on their website and they trusted that
Speaker:I knew how to do it. They didn't need me to tell them how to
Speaker:do it or to write down the step by step instructions. They needed me to
Speaker:go and do it for them. And so my blog is essentially there
Speaker:to persuade them, convince them, encourage them to recognize that
Speaker:I'm the person with the skill set and experience for it as well.
Speaker:Wherever you niche in your industry, it could be that
Speaker:you, for example, build websites for photographers. And I
Speaker:recognize, as I say this, that lots of photographers build their own website, but let's
Speaker:say some of them don't. So it could be vlogs on how to
Speaker:best showcase photography on a website, what's the
Speaker:best size images to use on websites, how to do
Speaker:this, how to do that, how to choose the right website designer
Speaker:for your photography business, and the best tools
Speaker:for photographers websites. So there's lots and lots of ways that
Speaker:you can shape your blog to be
Speaker:absolutely targeted to this ideal client
Speaker:whilst being intrinsically you and getting your message out there as
Speaker:well.
Speaker:The next thing is very obvious, but sometimes we do miss this, and you could
Speaker:miss this as well. If you're quite a new branding designer, make
Speaker:sure your SEO is done. And if you're not sure
Speaker:about SEO, I have a course, it's quite a short course
Speaker:and it's called Unlocking Boost yout Website's Visibility.
Speaker:And as I say, if you're not very sure about it, you can jump onto
Speaker:the course. It's less than £50. It has tools, it has
Speaker:workbooks, it has sheets with it, it has a webinar. It will teach you
Speaker:everything that you need to know. Not only for your website but, but for all
Speaker:your clients sites. And with my clients websites, when they go
Speaker:live, I send them a screenshot as part of their website user
Speaker:manual. I send them a screenshot of their
Speaker:page speed scores on the time of
Speaker:publishing and that goes in the website user manual and they can
Speaker:see what their performance is, what their accessibility report is, what their
Speaker:SEO score is as well. So the unlocking SEO
Speaker:course will get you a score of between 92 and 100 for every website
Speaker:you publish. And you can reuse all of those materials and
Speaker:stuff for every website you publish as well. But make sure your SEO is done
Speaker:because you're putting all this work into your messaging, into everything
Speaker:else you want to make sure people can find you. And SEO is the way
Speaker:to do that.
Speaker:Next, have prices on your website. Gone
Speaker:are the days of thinking, oh my goodness, my competition is going to go
Speaker:in, look at my prices, they're going to undercut me or they're going to do
Speaker:this, that and the other people don't make their decision based on price anymore.
Speaker:Price is a factor. You know, if someone's looking to spend £500 and
Speaker:your minimum website is £5,000, then yeah, they're not going to work with
Speaker:you. But also you don't want to work with someone who's only got £500 to
Speaker:spend on a website. They're going to be much better suited to maybe
Speaker:self building a site and having some mentoring or something like that along the way.
Speaker:And even if you're a brand new designer, please do not build a website for
Speaker:500 pounds. It is not enough money in return for the professional
Speaker:service. Regardless as to how much knowledge you do or don't have.
Speaker:But do put your prices on your website, do make them accessible for
Speaker:people as well. Hiding prices is not cool. And it
Speaker:means as well that you'll often lose people along the
Speaker:journey who can't find your prices because if they don't know
Speaker:how much it's going to cost them to work with you, then
Speaker:they're often not going to go to too much effort to find out. They will
Speaker:just find someone who does have their pricing on their website. I've got a very
Speaker:real example of this. I put a shout out on LinkedIn a couple of weeks
Speaker:ago for branding designers because I had a client who's looking to
Speaker:rebrand, had over 70 responses, thought how
Speaker:are we going to filter through all of this? So I went on all of
Speaker:their websites and immediately the ones who didn't put pricing on
Speaker:their websites were the ones who we didn't take any further, they didn't get
Speaker:shortlisted purely because we didn't have time to contact everybody.
Speaker:Lots of people have a follow up sequence and stuff like that. It's
Speaker:all time consuming and we need to know whether we want
Speaker:to engage with someone straight away based on what expectation is.
Speaker:And don't be afraid if your prices are on the higher side
Speaker:as well. I've had people say to me, oh, the prices feel a bit
Speaker:toppy. I'm like, that's absolutely fine if I'm not the right fit for you right
Speaker:now, totally understand, lovely to meet you. And they often come back
Speaker:and say, yeah, had a word with myself and I've decided this
Speaker:is where I want the investment to be because I want the service and I
Speaker:want the experience of working with you and I recognize that it's going to cost
Speaker:a little bit more than someone who doesn't have that service laid out
Speaker:in that way. So do put your prices on there. Don't be afraid to
Speaker:do so. If you're only offering bespoke
Speaker:custom built stuff, just have a starting price on there. I have a starting price
Speaker:for my custom build website because it's impossible
Speaker:to kind of price everything according to, to what people need. But
Speaker:I can definitely say, yeah, this is the starting price of my
Speaker:websites. So that's there.
Speaker:Use testimonials. So many people get really good
Speaker:testimonials and then completely forget about them and they build
Speaker:their website and they think, where's my credibility? And your credibility
Speaker:is there in the emails that satisfied customers send you. Hopefully
Speaker:they're there in Google reviews. And if you haven't got your Google My business set
Speaker:up, that's a reminder to go and set that up. Get those Google reviews.
Speaker:Make sure every time you send a website live that you ask people, you
Speaker:send them a link to leave you a Google review or a LinkedIn recommendation
Speaker:and I use both. But I do prefer Google because it's more accessible for people
Speaker:who might not be on LinkedIn. And then when they're there, add them on the
Speaker:website, use them to break up the page as well so they're
Speaker:reinforcing the messaging. You'll see on my own websites that I
Speaker:use them on a pink banner throughout the site and then at the bottom
Speaker:of the page I have the Google widget there and I have all the Google
Speaker:reviews come up there as well. You can also set Google
Speaker:widgets where you can only show four and
Speaker:five star reviews onwards. So if you've got like a
Speaker:pesky one star review from someone where it just didn't work
Speaker:out. Hopefully you would have dealt with that well on Google.
Speaker:But people can always go on your Google site and see all of your
Speaker:reviews. You know, it's obviously we're only going to display the best on the
Speaker:website there, but it's not hiding it if it's publicly and easily
Speaker:available as well. So do you use testimonials on your website? Do
Speaker:you use them to back up what you're saying with your messaging on your website?
Speaker:Make sure your offers are really clear. And this is where
Speaker:a lot of web designers fall down, is that they don't want to turn down
Speaker:work and they want to end up being all things to all people.
Speaker:And if you heard of the expression, you know, he was a jack of all
Speaker:trades and master of none. Sometimes people can
Speaker:feel that if someone's offering to do everything, you know, work on every
Speaker:website, platform or offer every form of hosting, plan or offer this
Speaker:or offer that, it just feels like there's not a
Speaker:tightness there and that you're not going to be very good at the one thing
Speaker:they do need you for, because they only need you for one thing, not
Speaker:all of the things. If someone's got a WordPress site, they're not going to need
Speaker:you to have skills in Wix or Squarespace or Shopify or
Speaker:whatever else. They just need their WordPress website. Don't be afraid to
Speaker:narrow down and really double down on what you're really good at.
Speaker:It is okay to do it that way and to have really
Speaker:clear offers when you have really clear offers. And you'll see
Speaker:on mine, I have two different types of website builds. I have the
Speaker:care plans. I've got one which is self hosted one and one which is where
Speaker:we host yourself. And I have the website clinic and that's it.
Speaker:I have people say, oh, I had a client who asked me could I do
Speaker:this? And I don't usually. So I'm trying to get a price and you can
Speaker:already see it unravel. They're losing confidence
Speaker:in what they've been asked to do because it's not part of their offering.
Speaker:And when we get someone who wants us to work outside of our scope
Speaker:and it's different software or it's not what we offer. You don't need
Speaker:the 50 quid a month or whatever it is that they're going to to be
Speaker:offering that badly, that it's going to throw out your invoicing
Speaker:system, that it's going to throw out your Regular work routine. What you need to
Speaker:do is have a really clear offer so that when someone comes in to work
Speaker:with you, you're bringing them into you. You're saying this is how it does it,
Speaker:this is how we do the direct debits, this is how we do that. And
Speaker:it all falls into place easily. You don't want to be creating systems for one
Speaker:off jobs for people. And often people who ask you to to
Speaker:do that sort of stuff end up not being very happy with what
Speaker:the end result is because they don't feel that there's been a
Speaker:level of expertise together. You know, essentially it feels from both of your
Speaker:parts that it's a patch up job. When that's the case,
Speaker:don't be afraid to recommend other people or to collaborate with other
Speaker:people. I already spoke in my episode about Scope creep.
Speaker:If you need to work on a bit of a website, you end up being
Speaker:asked to choose something and it's outside of your remit. Get another
Speaker:designer or developer on board involved. There's loads of people we can recommend
Speaker:people you can go on LinkedIn, find people and you'll find people you really
Speaker:enjoy collaborating with as well. So seriously, it's
Speaker:a really good one, is passing on work to other
Speaker:designers and developers and trust me, it comes back to you
Speaker:over and over again. I often get recommended work from other developers and
Speaker:designers. I often recommend others for work as well and it can
Speaker:build some really good relationships as well.
Speaker:So my very final point here is make it easy for people to reach
Speaker:you. So often we focus on the website and we forget about the
Speaker:contact page or you know, we don't make it very obvious how people get in
Speaker:touch with us or like, oh, just come find me on Instagram. No, they are
Speaker:on your website. They are here to reach you through the website. Make it easy
Speaker:for them to do so. I have the contact
Speaker:forms on my website. I like a contact form because I always
Speaker:think it shows people that you want to hear from them and it gives them
Speaker:a guide. What's your message, what service do you want to talk about? That sort
Speaker:of thing. And it gives you a little bit of a heads up before they
Speaker:get on the phone to you as well. If you're happy taking phone calls, have
Speaker:your phone number on there. You can even have hours that you accept calls.
Speaker:And I also have book a call link with Zoom Calls as well. So it
Speaker:books straight into my calendar. So I also know when people click that
Speaker:the first I know about it is that it will land in my inbox. With
Speaker:the booking there, but I also know that they are booking for a date and
Speaker:time. That works for me as well using a method that works for me. I
Speaker:like using Zoom because it means I can screen share and I can show them
Speaker:ideas as I'm kind of thinking them as well. You know some people just want
Speaker:to hit email and just come straight to you as an email as well. So
Speaker:do make it really, really clear. Make it really available from each page
Speaker:through your calls to action through that sticky menu. Would be surprised how
Speaker:many designers and developers forget to use sticky menus as well.
Speaker:Have that sticky menu so that once someone's read enough of one page they can
Speaker:easily navigate to the next one and they can navigate to contacting you.
Speaker:So there we go. If you want to go through this in any more detail,
Speaker:I do have the course how to Get Clients from for your website design
Speaker:business. It is under £50. It will be
Speaker:probably one of the best investments you make in your business and you can get
Speaker:it from websitesmadesimple.co.uk. if
Speaker:you've done the course and you would like to give a review of it,
Speaker:drop me an email. I'd love to hear from you and if you have any
Speaker:points you would like to add to this podcast, anything you've heard
Speaker:today and you think, oh, I've got one, I've got one. I want to talk
Speaker:to you about it. Come and find me at
Speaker:[email protected] UK. Until
Speaker:next time. See you soon and happy designing.