Too many retailers still believe discounting is the only way to keep customers walking through the door.
In this episode of Retail Reckoning, I, Clare Bailey, will explain why that mindset is a fast track to collapse. From the real meaning of value in 2025, to the dangers of a “race to the bottom” on margins, Clare explores how economic uncertainty, squeezed supply chains, and outdated 9–5 trading hours are reshaping the retail landscape.
Discover how independents and big brands alike can compete on more than just price — with smarter stock strategies, customer reassurance, and creating moments of joy that build loyalty.
In this episode, we're focusing on the real meaning of value,
Speaker:how to maximize margins, the importance of
Speaker:localization, and if you're trading
Speaker:9 to 5, this one might make you rethink that.
Speaker:Welcome back to Retail Reckoning. We're going to cut through the fluff,
Speaker:confront the facts and say what many others might not. I'm
Speaker:Clare Bailey and today we're diving into the murky waters of value
Speaker:margins and what it really means to serve customers. Customers in
Speaker:2025. This episode picks up right where our last one
Speaker:left off. And if you haven't caught up on episode one, go and do that.
Speaker:It sets the stage. Let's first dive into value.
Speaker:As I said in episode one, it isn't just about price.
Speaker:Yeah, retail reckoning.
Speaker:Retail reckoning. No space for
Speaker:dusty shelves. Cause retail
Speaker:reckoning owns the floor.
Speaker:The message hasn't landed enough people yet. Consumers aren't
Speaker:just bargain hunting, they're prioritizing where they spend.
Speaker:The share of wallet isn't just about the lowest
Speaker:possible price. And quite frankly, often when I speak at conferences,
Speaker:I say to the independent retailers in the audience, be more
Speaker:stellar, reassuringly expensive. Because actually
Speaker:value is a race to the bottom that only those with the biggest
Speaker:pockets can achieve. That's where we call value. But we
Speaker:don't mean it as value, we mean discounting. The real
Speaker:meaning of value is a bit of a moving target as
Speaker:consumer behaviors have changed and more and more people
Speaker:are looking for ethical and sustainable options, especially
Speaker:in the younger generation. That's one of the areas where you might be
Speaker:able to compete on value. Made in the uk. Shorter supply
Speaker:chains, fewer carbon miles. Others just want
Speaker:speed, same day delivery. Only recently we
Speaker:saw that John Lewis was partnering with, I believe it was
Speaker:Uber Eats, not just to deliver food, but to deliver
Speaker:all kinds of products, from lamps to bedding to who knows
Speaker:what. That's real speed. It's not going to be in all stores,
Speaker:it'll only be in those who've got a significant catchment. And it's a trial,
Speaker:but it just goes to show how much instant
Speaker:gratification is important to our consumers today. Think about
Speaker:your own behavior. There are some who want the cheapest option
Speaker:and that still feels like a reliable, dependable way forward.
Speaker:I mean, I often talk about the fact that people cut
Speaker:as much of their spending out of the boring basics
Speaker:in order to be able to splash out a little bit on the
Speaker:interesting additions. And actually that's been seen for
Speaker:quite a few years now. The majority of us want
Speaker:the combination of a fair price, not Necessarily the lowest,
Speaker:but a fair price, quality products, it lives up to our
Speaker:expectations and meets our needs. The service
Speaker:we were treated well. And convenience. What are
Speaker:the opening hours? Is there parking? Can I buy online, can I click and collect?
Speaker:And all of those things, depending on what they're buying and when,
Speaker:could have a different weight in the decision. So
Speaker:really you can't apply this blanket approach that many people do.
Speaker:And if you still think value is discounting
Speaker:or a generic promise, then you're already behind the curve,
Speaker:because it certainly isn't. And the retailers who are
Speaker:successful have fully understood this.
Speaker:Talking of discounting, we all know, as we mentioned last
Speaker:time, that margins are being squeezed. All of the information
Speaker:that we've heard from national Insurance, increased minimum wages,
Speaker:very sticky inflation, business rates still looming, online
Speaker:fraud, all of those things are still relevant. And
Speaker:that's why consumers are still cautious. All the more so
Speaker:with a lot of the global economic uncertainty, with what's
Speaker:happening in the stock market, so Trump's
Speaker:tariffs, wars, Gaza,
Speaker:Ukraine, the world is full of bad news
Speaker:constantly. And when the world is full of bad news, consumers
Speaker:worry. They worry about their jobs, they worry about
Speaker:what's going to happen to them. And they worry because
Speaker:it's nerve wracking to hear all this bad news all the time.
Speaker:So what they often do is even if they've got
Speaker:spending power, they just hold back. They keep
Speaker:the money with them, just in case.
Speaker:And what retailers need to do, and what many do,
Speaker:is attract more customers through the door, or to at least engage with
Speaker:those customers who are cautious and reassure them. The problem is, far too
Speaker:many think the only way to keep afloat in a time
Speaker:of extreme consumer lack of confidence is to drop
Speaker:prices, to maintain volume sell and to release the
Speaker:cash tied up in stock. But what that doesn't do is generate enough
Speaker:profit to pay the rent, the rates, the utilities, the staff, the
Speaker:insurance. And of course, a lot of people complain when
Speaker:the PLC retailers make profit. And I sort of think, what are you
Speaker:complaining about? Most of the pension schemes and
Speaker:investment trusts use PLC retail as part of
Speaker:their portfolio. If they don't generate profit and shareholders value,
Speaker:that actually degrades the actual income into a
Speaker:lot of the major pensions and investment funds. So people that
Speaker:declare the major retailers who've done well are just
Speaker:greedy and profiteering from customers, are they? Or are
Speaker:they being really efficient and delivering what PLCs are meant to do, which is
Speaker:shareholder value? Because one day when we all come
Speaker:to draw pensions and hopefully private pensions and so on,
Speaker:funded by a lot of these stocks and shares will appreciate the fact that
Speaker:they made a profit because it'll mean that our pension pot has kept up with
Speaker:inflation and we're not actually going backwards. The other thing to consider
Speaker:when it comes to discounting is the volume doesn't
Speaker:equal viability. The smaller businesses can
Speaker:reduce prices for only so long. But as
Speaker:the buy in price for new stock is unfortunately rising
Speaker:due to pressures upwards of the supply chain, what you're getting for the
Speaker:product you once bought for, say £10, that product may
Speaker:now be worth £12, 50 or more.
Speaker:So if you haven't sold enough to generate
Speaker:the profit now to rebuy stock, you find yourself
Speaker:in a cash constrained position. And that's a serious
Speaker:problem. And that's where quite a few small businesses unfortunately have ended up
Speaker:in an insolvency position. So I really do urge people to
Speaker:reconsider discounting, but to focus on what can
Speaker:they do to bring customers back. If you're not making enough
Speaker:money per transaction to be viable, what's the point?
Speaker:What are you really gaining?
Speaker:So looking at that in terms of the high street reality we've
Speaker:seen over the last, oh, probably it's nearly 15 or
Speaker:15 plus years now, retailer after retailer
Speaker:falling into collapse. A lot of that has been to do with not
Speaker:banking enough money in the golden quarter. So from now until Christmas is the
Speaker:most important time for a huge amount of retailers if they
Speaker:don't bank the profits now, and some of those might be looking to make
Speaker:30% of their annual profit in this next quarter, others in
Speaker:gifting and so on could be looking as much as 60% in the golden
Speaker:quarter. And the reality is some of those retail administrations over the Last
Speaker:more than 15 years have been as a result of a poor Christmas trading.
Speaker:They then don't have enough in the bank because they've discounted and
Speaker:they've not done well. They don't have enough in the bank to pay the quarterly
Speaker:rent, to pay the staff, to buy new stock, and they hit the wall
Speaker:as well as all that. We've got quite a lot of empty units. More and
Speaker:more retailers have moved out of high streets and it's an interesting situation
Speaker:because people are busily blaming the Internet. I actually look at this
Speaker:from a point of view of what happened back in the 80s and 90s
Speaker:to deal with housing. Lots of housing estates were built on the edge
Speaker:of town or out of town and then to serve that community
Speaker:who became car or public transport reliant to get high streets,
Speaker:large out of town stores and developments started to pop up. That
Speaker:meant that the community who'd moved out of the town centre to
Speaker:the nice detached house with a garden where the kids
Speaker:could play in a safe area versus living in a flat in the town
Speaker:centre. But all those families were now not needing to go
Speaker:into the town centre because of out of town developments. So we can definitely consider
Speaker:that out of town became part of the reason why the high
Speaker:street suffered. And we saw closures. Then we saw lots and
Speaker:lots of car dependency because they were no longer able to walk to
Speaker:things and public transport wasn't as accessible from housing
Speaker:developments. And finally we're seeing some planning
Speaker:reforms which hopefully address the problem of that drift
Speaker:out of town, which I personally believe has got a lot more to do with
Speaker:high street decline than the Internet. Because the Internet, even at the peak of
Speaker:COVID was only ever 35% of total retail sales.
Speaker:And it trickles along somewhere between 25 ish percent depending on the
Speaker:ONS figures or whoever you look at. So it's not the Internet. If
Speaker:there's 25% going through the Internet,
Speaker:75% are still going through physical shops. Unfortunately, they're not
Speaker:necessarily the ones in town centres. But luckily there has been
Speaker:some planning reform that's, I think is a good idea because it's
Speaker:made it easier to turn perhaps offices above shops or even empty
Speaker:shops into housing, where it could be usefully used as housing.
Speaker:That puts populations back on the doorstep of the
Speaker:businesses. So yes, there'll be fewer businesses in the town centre, but it
Speaker:brings the equilibrium back and puts a population in front of
Speaker:the businesses that trade there, so that then they can at least
Speaker:be viable. And over time, as the population is back in the
Speaker:town centre, maybe more businesses will pop up. So
Speaker:that's a good side of planning reform. The recently announced planning
Speaker:reform doesn't make a lot of sense. As I covered in a previous
Speaker:episode, we have to really look at the differences between
Speaker:what's causing issues on the high street, what's causing
Speaker:drops in footfall, and so on and so forth. And high streets
Speaker:are less and less accessible. The first thing that local authorities
Speaker:get when they walk into a dependent business is it's all about
Speaker:the parking. It's all about this, it's all about that. Availability of
Speaker:parking is a problem, Cost is not a problem if the offering
Speaker:is right. But I also think that businesses are often
Speaker:their own worst enemy. If we think about who have got the highest spending
Speaker:power, it's often people who are working full time. They're working full
Speaker:time, right? So they might be commuting back home and
Speaker:reaching the town, getting off the bus or getting off the train and
Speaker:walking home perhaps at exactly the time you're shutting.
Speaker:So if the shop is shut and they need something, they're either going
Speaker:to jump online when they get home or go to the large out of
Speaker:town development who are open longer hours. I've always said
Speaker:that retailers, if they want to open 9 to 5,
Speaker:really ought to consider getting a different job because it isn't a 9 to 5
Speaker:job if they don't want to work weekends and back, holidays and evenings and so
Speaker:on. It's not the career for you, but the behavior and the
Speaker:footfall that we've seen over the years has depleted during
Speaker:the nine to five hours. But actually the best period
Speaker:is the evening and nighttime economy. So that segue
Speaker:from arriving home from work through into the evenings and you only have
Speaker:to look at some European countries. Let's take Denmark. Very similar weather to uk,
Speaker:arguably colder. I used to do some work in a town called Aarhus,
Speaker:which is about on the level with Edinburgh. It's minus 10 in the winter,
Speaker:but you see people al fresco dining and they provide blankets
Speaker:and heaters and so on, and they're having fun and they're enjoying the
Speaker:atmosphere and they're hanging out together until quite late into the evening and
Speaker:all the shops are still open. Whereas in the uk, if you go
Speaker:out for a meal, the only thing that's open is probably the pub
Speaker:and the restaurant. Chances are all the shops are shut and
Speaker:I believe that that's where we're missing out. So one thing I'd
Speaker:say, if you take nothing else from this, reconsider your opening hours
Speaker:and try to look at the flow of people around your town. Your council
Speaker:might have footfall data that you could ask to see. And if it seems that
Speaker:there's a peak of footfall in the evenings, perhaps when commuters come
Speaker:home, then why not change your opening hours to suit them?
Speaker:Other things that you can do We've talked about the range
Speaker:and segmentation in the previous episode, but
Speaker:it's also things like reviewing your suppliers.
Speaker:If you consolidate the range and curate it down to
Speaker:the things that people really buy in volume and which make you profit,
Speaker:that might mean that you can then push more volume
Speaker:through some products and negotiate better rates with suppliers. Because
Speaker:if you think about it, if certain products on the range were actually proliferating
Speaker:the range and cannibalizing the potential sales of another
Speaker:product because it offered a similar alternative by
Speaker:channeling all that demand through the best performer, you can
Speaker:negotiate harder with the supplier to say, look, I'm going to be increasing volumes. Is
Speaker:there anything you can do? You can also, whether you're large or small,
Speaker:make sure you monitor actual supplier performance, because
Speaker:failure to deliver impacts availability, impacts customer
Speaker:experience. And actually you could be looking to your supplier
Speaker:base and asking them for better performance and managing a couple of
Speaker:KPIs that the supplier then thinks whether you're small or not.
Speaker:These people are serious about being professional. And even the
Speaker:biggest suppliers will be impressed by a small business
Speaker:demanding the same level of performance as a large business. They may not
Speaker:listen to you, but it's worth having a go.
Speaker:I worked with an independent fashion retailer in Litchfield a few years ago
Speaker:and it was her aim to sell business, which she now has. But she was
Speaker:really working everywhere God sent. And her repos data showed
Speaker:that she was overstocked on high fashion items and
Speaker:selling out regularly on core basics. All we needed
Speaker:to do was make a when it's gone, it's gone policy on high
Speaker:fashion. Basically, if it's not sold by New Year's Eve, things like a
Speaker:party dress, for instance, it's not going to. But making
Speaker:it so I must buy it now because she'll sell out made
Speaker:a sense of urgency around the product and of course it increased the
Speaker:sales. So she got a higher sell through rate by saying, when it's gone,
Speaker:it's gone. But similarly, because these things were core basics
Speaker:that she kept selling out of, I just said, why don't you
Speaker:buy slightly more than you think you need? Because
Speaker:the demand had been constrained by lots of stockouts. So if
Speaker:demand's constrained, it gives you inaccurate data to forecast from. So why
Speaker:don't you just buy heavy on that? And if you've got this capacity for storage
Speaker:and you've got the cash in the bank, why not buy a month and a
Speaker:half worth of stock and make sure that you saturate
Speaker:the sales. Never go out of stock, and then you'll know what your real
Speaker:baseline is. Well, that transformed the business. Those two
Speaker:key levers never be out of stock of the core basics
Speaker:and make it an urgent purchase of the sort of
Speaker:fashion items. She increased her profit by
Speaker:£40,000 in the first year. And this is a small, independent
Speaker:single store retailer that of course put her in a strong position to be able
Speaker:to sell. And I don't think this matters whether you're large or small. You
Speaker:cannot afford to be out of stock of the things that customers expect to find.
Speaker:It's like Sainsbury's not having bread on the shelf. That would really
Speaker:annoy people. They think, well, I'll go to Tesco's then. What if they
Speaker:never come back? It's a really bad choice. Equally,
Speaker:we don't expect certain high seasonable products to be available. You
Speaker:don't want to buy a Christmas tree in February after all.
Speaker:Finally, I want to pick up on the local intelligence
Speaker:that I talked about in the previous episode. And I think
Speaker:that the key to this is the empowerment. And I mentioned
Speaker:that before, but going into this in a bit more detail, it's about
Speaker:understanding the local market and demographic. It's about doing, as I
Speaker:just said, going to the local council and getting footfall data to understand the
Speaker:flow of people around the town and then requesting
Speaker:changes to opening hours and trading hours. There might be licensing
Speaker:limitations on that, but at least you can ask. And it's about
Speaker:the personalization and the flexibility and the
Speaker:adaptability that makes it feel like this
Speaker:isn't just the same old, same old cookie cutter
Speaker:template. This is a business that understands me. Even
Speaker:though they've got a big brand name above the door, the staff
Speaker:know me by name and they know what I like and they
Speaker:recommend things to me. And it feels great because that's
Speaker:exactly how the independents behave. It's really important to allow the
Speaker:managers, and even the area managers as well, to
Speaker:respond and agree to what's actually happening in store. And you give them
Speaker:room to act, to surprise. For example, one thing I
Speaker:always talk about at conferences as well is moments of joy in
Speaker:customer experience. And I talk about loyalty and I talk
Speaker:about disloyalty because in my wallet I must have six
Speaker:coffee shop cardboard stamper cards. And I call them
Speaker:disloyalty cards because quite frankly, depending on which coffee shop
Speaker:I'm walking past now, if I want a coffee, I open the wallet and flick
Speaker:through all the cards until I find the one that's that brand and I get
Speaker:my stamp. And at some point down the line, I've got enough to get a
Speaker:free one. Then I discovered what pret a manger do. They don't do that.
Speaker:They actually had the opportunity at store level and
Speaker:a budget to achieve this. That said, oh, it's on the house today. Now,
Speaker:that happened to me once and I didn't know at the time that that was
Speaker:common practice. And I turned to what then was called
Speaker:Twitter and said, oh my goodness, my coffee's just been on the
Speaker:house. What a wonderful surprise. And it was a moment of joy.
Speaker:Now, if I can see a prep, I'll walk past the other coffee
Speaker:shops to go there, even though I know that it's a policy
Speaker:and they're allowed to do this. But I just hope that it might be me
Speaker:again that gets the free coffee. I would definitely
Speaker:recommend having room to create moments of joy.
Speaker:So to wrap up, margin isn't a
Speaker:dirty word, it's survival. It's about being able
Speaker:to pay your staff, keep your rent commitments and provide
Speaker:shareholder value. If that's the kind of organization structure you've got,
Speaker:it means that you can actually invest in keeping
Speaker:the service levels up. At the moment, we've seen staffing levels
Speaker:drop because the cost of staffing is higher than ever before.
Speaker:And of course that affects affects the service level. You need to know your
Speaker:numbers, make tough range decisions,
Speaker:invest in what's working and ditch what's not. Well, thanks
Speaker:for tuning in. If this has resonated, please share it. If you've got topics
Speaker:you'd like us to cover, drop me a message. And until next time,
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