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Hosts Beck and Dash chat about home and apartment quirks, pets, and grief after Beck’s 15-year-old dog Wenda dies, discussing euthanasia, cremains, and pet rent. They talk about caring for and rehoming animals, moving with cats, litter robots, and Beck wanting an older small dog. Beck discusses an upcoming pap smear and past awkward medical experiences as a trans man, including visibility, bias, and the importance of preventative care for lgbtq people. They share jokes, a local Appalachian wrestling discovery, and reflections on drag and play. A sponsor bit riffs on “Hill Williams: Rent a friend” DIY repairs. They cover stained glass class, bargain stores, odd food stories, and an Appalachian “paper plate holder” icon, then end with rural healthcare access issues in eastern Kentucky—limited PET scanning delaying cancer and heart treatment—and plans for jobs, a discord, and community YouTube nights in a queer rural Appalachian space.

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00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:14 Mic Setup Talk

00:55 Drafty Apartment Woes

02:44 Remembering Wenda

05:11 Cremains And Goodbyes

07:36 Rehoming Pets Stories

09:36 Litter Robot Debate

11:54 Moving With Cats

14:18 Renting Vs Owning

17:26 Pap Smear Anxiety

20:19 Trans Healthcare Mishaps

27:43 Dark Humor And Ads

30:00 Wrestling Sponsor Realization

30:49 Marvelous Marcus Saga

32:33 Wrestling as Adult Play

34:40 Cat Break and Sponsor Bit

38:00 Stained Glass Crafting

41:09 Factory Seconds and Bargain Stores

44:33 Expired Groceries and Dollar Food

45:54 Ketchup Cookies and Umami

50:18 Appalachian Paper Plate Holder

52:15 Rural Healthcare Bottlenecks

56:08 Plans Jobs and Community Hangout

59:26 Thanks and Sign Off

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Speaker:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that

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puts the Yee Hall in y'all means hall.

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I'm your host, Beck,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

and I'm your host.

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Dash.

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Welcome to today's episode.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh, that's a fancy microphone.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

It is the same one.

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Um, but I got an actual stand for it

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

instead of just like

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holding it in front of me.

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It had a piece, it came with

this piece that I lost somehow.

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And so I had this little stand thing

that's magnetized and it's sitting on top

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of it so that the sound of my fingers.

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And finally, I was just like, I, I gotta

put something a little more ergonomic

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together here and splurged on a little

stand, which actually wasn't that bad,

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but it makes it a bit easier to sit here.

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I also have a heater going under my feet.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah.

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It's pretty chilly here today.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Well, I wanted the window

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open, but it's missing a pain.

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So it's not totally open, but it's only,

it was, first of all, they're the original

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windows, so they're a hundred something

years old, and there's a, they're supposed

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to be double paned, and even then they're

like rickety wooden things inside a sash,

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so they're not super, what's the word?

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Insulated.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

It is leading

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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So it's a little breezy.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

the, uh, recent windstorm that we had

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here, knocked some of the siding off

of two of the buildings in my complex.

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Turns out there's plywood

underneath the siding.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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They took it.

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They, they put so much effort and

so much care into building these.

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if you touch the wall, you

leave fingerprints on it, like,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh, it's that, like that gummy kind of

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paint that they just put a new layer on.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

They had that stuff in the, the

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building I lived on, on campus up here.

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It was nice of them to provide it for, for

free until I could find somewhere to live.

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But it had that stuff on the walls

and the cats would, you know,

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you know, sometimes they like to

parkour off the walls and stuff.

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There were grooves that looked

like a haunted mountain lion

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had run down the hallway.

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Like as I, especially when I went to

cleaning the place out when I, I was like,

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oh my God, they have ruined these walls.

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What, what am I gonna do?

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And so I went around, I was like

pushing it back down, trying to

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like close the grooves up with my

finger, which kind of worked, but

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then it just left the a fingerprint.

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I was like, now I just left proof.

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Is your buddy still there?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Uh, no, she left about an hour ago.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh, okay.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah, that was I, my, my BFF came to

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visit and that was very much needed.

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I should have been working all

weekend, but to hell with it, I had

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fun with my best friend instead.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Well, and you had a loss.

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We, we put this in the newsletter, but

it has happened since our last recording.

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So if you don't read the newsletter,

you don't know listeners.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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I lost my baby.

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Wenda,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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Such a beautiful little baby.

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15 years old though.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah.

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And she had two teeth left

and one good eyeball and,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: She

was really just all of us in so many ways.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah, she came out of a really bad

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hoarding situation, like a puppy

mill situation, and the lady that

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I got her from said that she had

pulled her out of the cage herself.

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she had spent her first three years

living in a cage, in a puppy farm, and

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she had no idea how to dog when I got her.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

And 12 years later, she

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was the doggiest of dogs.

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She liked to do all of the dog things.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

thing about all of it

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is sleeping without her

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Mm-hmm.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

hand goes to her like in my sleep, and

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I have reached for her a thousand times.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: a

little, she was a little teddy bear too.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

She, she went between nine and

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12 pounds depending on the, the

season and how she was eating.

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And between nine and 12 pounds,

she was a pug yorkie mix.

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She was a tiny little thing.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

RIP Wenda.

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You are amazing.

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And I'm just sorry that your losses

have stacked up on you like that.

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It's not right.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

the way it runs for me.

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You know, I

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Mm-hmm.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

lose one parent, I have

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to lose three in a row.

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I can't lose, one dog I

have to lose two in a row.

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When I lost my cats after my

adopted dad died, I lost both of

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my cats in like a six month period.

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and I had had them for 12 and

13 years, 15 years, you know,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: I,

I know of, um, you know, like couples

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that have grown old together, that,

that's kind of happened too a lot.

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Uh, back home.

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Just like one will go, it, it'll be

like both of them hold it on like it's.

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A drinking contest and the last one

to tap out wins, you know, hobbling

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around or whatever for decades.

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And then one goes and the

other one is right behind them.

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Okay.

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I've gotta stop this.

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I moved some things in here because

part of my to-do list is to, to

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actually start working on the house.

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And also this room is really echoy,

so I've moved a bunch of the stuff

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that was in the other room over here

and the cats are like attacking it.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

No, not for us.

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We hate this.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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Well, I still think that we

should make our wind a sticker.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh, I'm down with that.

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She's not going anywhere.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Did you get, um, the box,

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

What box?

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

her cremains?

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Is that what they call it?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

It happened on Tuesday morning

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and I'm assuming they're gonna

call us tomorrow or Tuesday.

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If I don't hear from them by tomorrow, I'm

gonna call myself because I want her back.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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Sabrina went and got Link's, cremains,

and I, I, I was aware of that word,

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but man, what a fantastic word that is.

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Like, it's portmaneau.

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It's super descriptive.

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If you'd never heard it before,

you immediately know what it is.

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But it's also like a little

stark and dispassionate.

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I guess maybe 'cause the word remains

also sounds kind of like Jesus.

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We don't gotta call 'em that.

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That's probably how pro-lifers

feel when we say fetus.

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It's a person.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

You know, that was, that was the

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hardest thing when we lost baby.

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We had to take her to the

crematorium, but on our

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Mm-hmm.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

That's, I would rather pay the extra

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a hundred dollars to let the vet do

it and not have to see the place.

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You know what I

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Mm-hmm.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

So Wenda cost us a little bit more,

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which is surprising 'cause baby

cost us a lot, but we also paid for

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diagnostics on Wenda hoping that

there was something to be done.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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you, you'll want to feel certain.

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I've never, I've never had to make a

decision like that of, of, you know, being

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at the vet with, uh, with one, I just

haven't had, you know, pets, like indoor

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pets long enough to go through that yet.

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We all always just had outdoor animals

and they just kind of die on their own.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

So, I, I can't imagine.

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I know it's gonna be awful of having

to like actually make that call.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh, it's the worst fucking thing

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

then you have to watch the

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trigger warning for anybody.

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You have to watch the

light go out of their eyes.

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And the way that my vet checks to see

if they're still alive is he opens up

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their eyelid and pokes in their eye

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh my God.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah.

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And it's so traumatic to

me every time it happens.

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ugh.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I mean, and we sort of talked

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off air how they'll go like, you

sure you wanna be here for this?

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It's like, yeah, I wanna

be here for it, but

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

they offered like three times to

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let us leave before it was over.

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I've always wanted to fight 'em.

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I was like, fuck you.

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I'm not leaving

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

what are you suggesting?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I don't wanna leave her when

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she's dead, let alone, you

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I just can't imagine taking one of your

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babies to a place like that, getting them

in that position and then walking away.

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what kind of heartless bastard.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Yeah, that really highlights the

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monstrosity of people like Kristi Noem,

and you know, folks who can just, just

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make that decision so preemptively

because they didn't wanna deal with it.

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And I know that people, there's lots

of examples of animals in shelters

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for behavioral issues that are likely

more just a person and the animal

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didn't click or the person wasn't

knowledgeable on how to rehome an animal.

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Like what that adjustment

period takes I understand.

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Even though it couldn't be me, because

I absolutely, I will wear it down.

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Like if you come into my house,

you're staying, I don't give a fuck.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Right.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I, I've re-homed one animal and it

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was Beef and it was because I had to

mb into a hatchback and drive:

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miles with four animal or fi five cats.

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And he was the biggest

fattest of them all.

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And they, he really just threw

a wrench into everything.

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And I was still gonna do it until

Vanessa said that she would take him.

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And I was like, thank God, because

he stressed all the, they, it

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would've been one long three

day cat fight in, in this car.

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And I was just like, this

is gonna be dreadful.

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It still wasn't awesome, but the four of

them, for some reason, they do better.

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When he was in the mix, he

just, he fucked it all up.

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And I do miss him.

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Like

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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he's with your sister now though, right?

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yes.

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And he is so happy pro, probably

much happier than I would make him

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because he's the, not the only animal

in the house, but he's, the only cat.

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There's a dog that lives

in fear of him, of course.

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And then there's two kids who

he loves, like he's loved them.

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He met them before he

went to live with them.

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He's a black and white cat,

like tuckie animals in general.

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They tend to be better with

people and especially with kids.

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So he's living high on the hog.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah, never had a black and white cat.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I almost said you want one, but

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah, we, we've talked about that.

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And I would love to have a cat,

but I don't wanna chain myself to

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a litter box for 15 years, know,

that is just, uh, no thank you.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

yeah, the, the litter robot life

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is the life for me, but it is.

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It's got a pretty big price

tag at, at the beginning there.

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I mean, that's, if you go name

brands, there's lots of knockoffs

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now that could be as good, you know,

but still you're gonna, that's a

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few hundred dollars at minimum.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

The efficiency it has with the

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litter though, like it does kind

of save you money on, on litter.

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And you, I haven't scooped

shit in over a year, so

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Wow,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

you just open up a little

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drawer and pick the bag up.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

that's fancy,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: It is,

it's like, that is, that's like maybe the

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most exorbitantly, unnecessary, expensive,

fancy toy I've ever gotten myself.

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And it's because I hate scooping litter.

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It's disgust, like I love my cat to

do, but it's just I, and I'm too a DHD,

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so it would get like really dirty and

then I really didn't want to do it so.

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This just, it has a little sensor.

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It knows when one leaves and it cycles,

and then it tells you when it's full.

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So mine have maxed it out though.

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You're, 'cause you're supposed

to, it's like up to four cats

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and I have four high producing

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cats.

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They'd be, they'd be shitting.

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Uh, so I'm really like, I should

get another one or something.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

We're gonna look for a new

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dog, but I don't know, I just

need a little bit of time.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Yeah, there's no rush.

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And some so often, like the,

the animals find you, you know?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I want a little dog.

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I don't want a, a big dog.

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I don't want, I mean, we talked

about a cat, but that's not the,

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that's not the route for us.

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I definitely, and I don't want a baby.

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I want like a three, four, or five,

6-year-old, somewhere in there.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Well, because you still are not, I

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mean, y'all aren't like putting down

roots in that particular apartment, so

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

no.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

easier to move a dog than it is cat.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

They just kind of get in the car.

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They're happy to be wherever you are.

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A cat is not like that.

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Cat's like, did we discuss this?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: I, I

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want to take a cat to look

at apartments with me.

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Like, what do you think?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

My first cat on my own.

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Trance, was a big cat.

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I think he was part Norwegian Forest

cat, and I'm not even kidding about that.

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He was huge.

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And he had a huge tail

and he was beautiful.

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But he had a bit of a

badass streak in him.

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big giant blue, uh, containers, like

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the storage bins, and we cut a hole

in the top so that he could breathe.

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the trunk of my, my Hyundai accent.

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Virginia to Hamilton, Ohio, he sat

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in the back of the car going, help,

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help, help, It sounded like

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we were kidnapping somebody.

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uh, Oscar can make some ridiculous

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this, like they can downshift their

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like, and he will do that on a loop

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for the first like maybe 15 minutes

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we're in the car after, after that.

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So that, 'cause they have moved so many

times and they've driven around so much.

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They just literally snoozed in the car,

the hallway from Kentucky to Minnesota.

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Wow.

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I don't put 'em in a carrier.

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I don't do, like I will if I, I will

to move them from the house to the car.

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Felix because he's, he's a little

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shifty, Yeah, he, he's not bright.

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if he doesn't understand what's

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going on, his instincts kick in

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but the rest of 'em, I just kind of grab

'em and throw 'em in the car and let 'em

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situate wherever and then we, we take off.

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So brisket, he was a baby, so

he sat in my lap most of the

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way and looked out the Wenda.

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Oscar and Felix slept

on the passenger seat.

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And Ziggy, this is her in general,

she was just off somewhere

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else in the car, chilling.

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She didn't wanna come out.

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We got there and Felix too.

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They were both like, no, we live here now.

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You wanna do this again?

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What's your problem?

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Oh my God, I have moved so many times.

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I just realized that's gotta

stress them out so bad.

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Yeah, we have moved quite

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don't, I mean, I know that I'll probably

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have to move again now that I have to

find a different job, but I don't really

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want to, like, I had plans for this house.

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I don't hate it.

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It's, it's fine.

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It's one of those like places people

will look at and go, it's got potential.

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So I don't know.

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I'll work on that.

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Maybe I'll work on it, even though I

know I'm gonna have to sell it right now.

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I owe more on it than it's worth.

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So I would've to pay somebody to take it.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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The home owning life is not

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Not for me.

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for, for reasons like that.

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I, the handyman shit, I can just

call a number or put a file online

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and be like, come fix this shit.

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You know?

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And it, it doesn't affect me and

have to mow the grass or be in,

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in charge of that or any of that.

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I don't like living in a complex at all.

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But I mean, this was the solution

we had to having three dogs,

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including baby who was giant.

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but now we'll have a little

bit more flexibility.

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you think if since Wenda passed,

they'll take her off of the rent?

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Or do you think I'll have to pay for

her the whole time We have a lease.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Uh, that's a good question because

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I don't know what pet rent is for,

like, it's not a security deposit.

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It's, it's, I don't think they

know what it's for either, because

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I think that it's just them

squeezing more money outta people.

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well we got two of them certified

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as emotional support animals, so we

don't have to pay anything for them.

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But I made that Baby in Pita

because those are the two most

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commonly, like that would be

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah,

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because Pita's a chihuahua and

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they're known to bite, you know?

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So I thought Wenda would be the

safest one not to have covered.

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so she's the only one that I

had to pay actual rent for.

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But now that she's gone, I'm just

curious if they'll take it off my rent.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I mean, I would ask them to.

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and

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I mean, it'd be 30, it's 30 bucks a month.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

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I've gotten used to being like, I don't

think I'm very good at being a homeowner.

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Like I'm not somebody

that's on top of shit.

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But I don't wanna go back

to renting necessarily.

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I probably will if I leave here.

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Although if places don't wanna

let you have a dog, they damn

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sure don't want you to have a cat.

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And I've got four of them.

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Yeah,

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you'd be fine.

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At my complex.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Really?

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in this, in this complex has a cat in it.

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It's a cat tree.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

maybe it depends on where I was,

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but like in Richmond, nobody

would want you to have a cat.

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I couldn't find anybody to rent.

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I had to lie about 'em,

which I don't like doing.

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Yeah, this place was a unicorn.

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That's why we ended up here, you

know, because why it's, we pay the

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more expensive rent and everything.

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It's not for the freaking amenities

that break every five freaking minutes.

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Like the, they have these no slam drawers.

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Right.

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And the one with our

silverware in it broke.

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Like the day we moved in, like

nothing in here is top quality.

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Everything was just slapped together.

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I mean, it looks nice,

but it's, it's all crap.

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touched my wall, and it

has fingerprints on it.

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I didn't have greasy, I mean, I wasn't

eating fried chicken and touched

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the wall, you know what I mean?

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I just like was getting up and

I was pretty close to the wall

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and touched it, and now there's

fingerprints there and it's like,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

It is the worst paint in existence

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that they choose for that.

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'cause it's just so cheap.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I had, so I think, I'm not sure,

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but tomorrow I have, uh, a doctor's

appointment and I think it's

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gonna be a, uh, what's it called?

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A pap smear.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't say that on it, but like, I

remember I've been seeing her every month

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ever since all this bullshit started.

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And last time I saw her, she was like,

so do you still have these parts?

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And I was like, yeah, because it

keeps, it'll come up right in my chart.

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It'll be like, you're overdue for

this preventative care, this exam.

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And so it kept telling

her that I needed that.

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When I would see her.

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And so I was like, yeah.

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And she said, okay, well, and she said

something weird, like, well, I don't like

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to spring those on people, so, um, we'll

just deal with it next time you come.

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And I was like, wait a

minute, are you gonna do it?

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Like, what's, don't I have a say in this?

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cause I, and I don't, uh, if she's

gonna do it, then whatever, she's a

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nurse, so I guess anybody can do them.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

nurse practitioner does mine.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

uh, see that's what I'm thinking.

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It's gonna be her.

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And like, it's, would you rather it be

somebody that you have gotten to, you've

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established a certain kind of relationship

with over the course of a longer period of

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time or somebody you've never seen before?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I want my doctor to know

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everything about me.

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So I feel like it's just

because she's great.

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You know what I mean?

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She remembers things.

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Like I know she looks at

my chart before I come

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

but she remembers things like better than

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I do sometimes and it's really cool to

me that she can connect the dots so well.

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Right.

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'Cause like one of the, one time

I was taking a, uh, blood pressure

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medication and it was causing my blood

sugar to rise and we figured that out.

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Right.

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And, and things like that.

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She's really good at figuring out issues.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I think it's because of just what

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it's like for me to have that exam.

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I have never been to the

same person twice for it.

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I, and I don't, and it's never

been somebody that I've even seen

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before or after the, the thing.

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And I think I was just taking

it for granted up until this

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point that that was normal.

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And so the idea that like somebody that

I already know and will continue to know

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afterwards, like, I can't hide my shame.

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Like this is forever gonna be

something she knows about me.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

know that about you?

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

no, and, and she also is being very

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like, aggressively cool about it, which

is very, is cool, but I'm also like,

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I'm not as chill about this as you're

being, and I re I, I know that, you

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know, you probably aren't actually as

chill as you're, as you're trying to,

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let me see that you are right now.

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And I appreciate that.

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But I don't know.

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It'll be way better than

the last person I saw.

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Like I went to see that guy

know the one who said he wasn't

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an expert in, in vaginas.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

told my students, I've told

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every one of my classes about

trans broken arm syndrome, by

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah,

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I, I told my doctor about it

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too, and And she'd never heard

of it and I was like, okay.

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It's kind of weird.

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It's hard to explain like it's similar

to, some of the biases that fat people

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experience with medical, with this

added step of, did I just say medical?

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What the fuck is that?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

It's one of them.

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Doctor words you got.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Just so that is so cultural studies.

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Ugh, yuck.

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But yeah, the, he kind of overcorrected

after I pointed out to him that he

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was being stupid and it wasn't mean

about it, and which is probably

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why he, you know, was cool with it.

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But he decided to be like aggressively

cool about it and he goes like, oh,

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well I'll see if the ultrasound tech

is free and we can do this exam now.

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And I was like, uh, you

should warn her first, like.

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This is not a, I don't, this is not an

improvement on how things were going.

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I just need you to know that.

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Like, and so he just hollered

down the hallway to this woman

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like, Hey, are you free right now?

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And she was like, yeah.

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And he marched to me down there.

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Now look at this from her

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perspective listeners, if you

don't know, I have a pretty

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big beard and I am not short.

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there for her.

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There was no indication at all that

I Like he didn't go like, I have a

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transgender man in here who needs this.

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He just said, are you free?

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And took a a, a five foot

10 bearded weirdo into her

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and said, drop your drawers.

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And I was like.

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So,

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this will be better than that because

she will at least, like you said,

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be familiar with what's going on.

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But I think it's the social thing.

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I just don't wanna look her

in the eye after this is over.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

But there's nothing shameful about

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what you're doing whatsoever.

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It's part of your body.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I know.

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and, and this will be good for

me either way, because like one,

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it just literally has to be done.

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We have to do this kind of thing, right?

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We, it's like our responsibility

to at least try our best to get the

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preventative care that we have access to.

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But even if it sucks, and maybe

especially if it sucks, you know,

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like, like we don't get to just not do

things because it's hard or upsetting.

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What if I just never

talk to her again after

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It's been nice knowing you.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

And now I gotta ghost you.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

She works 10 feet away from my house,

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Oh.

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But I realized though, that

that was like my, remember we

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set like goals for the year.

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That was the one I, I said,

so maybe I'm gonna do it.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Nice.

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I'm proud of you.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Thank you.

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But I had another exam though,

where it was an echocardiogram,

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which I thought I'd had before.

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I thought it was, that's what

an EKG was and I was not.

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Correct.

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So it was this whole thing where you

have to like take your shirt off and

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like get on your side and put your

hand behind your head and stay that

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way for like half an hour or however

long it takes this person to, to

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like do an ultrasound on your heart.

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And I don't know why they do this.

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They always ask me what my scars are from.

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Do they?

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Is it all scars?

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They do that.

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Like does everybody,

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

People usually comment

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on the ones on my legs.

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:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

okay, what do you do?

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You go like surgery or do you

tell 'em the diagnosis or?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

IU So my nephew is autistic and he's

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echoic and he watches videos very closely

and memorizes lines from YouTube videos.

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So you never know what's gonna come

out of his mouth and, and how he's

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gonna phrase what he says to you.

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so one summer, we were at my mom's house

all the time and we were in the pool and

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stuff, so I was wearing shorts a lot.

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And he kept pointing at my leg

and he would say, what happened?

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And I tried to like be honest with him

and tell him that I had a booboo and

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he'd say, you fell off your skateboard.

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And finally I was like, yep.

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Fell off my skateboard.

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So that's usually, usually what

I say when somebody asks me, I

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say, I fell off a skateboard.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I have tried to come up with a lie to

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tell 'cause for, especially for this,

he kept going, like he, the text sits

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next to the table and he kept going

like, okay, scoot closer, scoot closer.

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And I was like, and he was right here.

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And then he goes, well,

what's that scar from?

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And I was like, uh, surgery?

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And he goes, yeah, I figured surgery.

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What kind?

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And I was like, I don't wanna

tell you what kind of surgery.

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And I just went, I had

some breasts removed

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and I, I don't know why I phrased it

that way, like they weren't mine or

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I didn't know where they came from.

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And I was like pouring sweat

because it was so awkward

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and he didn't respond at all.

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He just completely, he went

silent and the next thing he

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said was on a totally different,

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and I felt, I didn't mean to

do it that to him, but I just

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couldn't come up with a lie to tell

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

That's some pe sometimes pe It's,

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it's funny to watch sometimes

people like falter like that.

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The other day Shannon and I were

walking into the Texas Roadhouse.

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We went out to eat and this woman

just out of nowhere comes up behind

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us and she like stops and looks at us.

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She said, are you sisters,

mother and daughter?

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What?

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And like, I just had no idea what to say

and I was like, uh, and Shannon went wife.

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And you could just see that lady turn

pale and fade into the bushes like Homer

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Simpson and like faded away from us.

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It was hilarious.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Why would you even ask that?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Was that like a,

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:

a case of an intrusive

thought that got loose?

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:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

And who was the mother in this situation?

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Who was she saying was the old one?

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Like, I like feel like I

need to fight that woman,

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Sisters?

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

mother and daughter, wife.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh, bless her.

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well, it hap kind of happened again later

'cause he was, I I, I know that he, it's

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awkward and he, we just wanted to talk or

whatever, but he was like trying to figure

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out what they were even looking for.

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'cause basically I look healthy

is kind of what he was saying.

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Like, and I was like, well, you

know, there's this or that going on.

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And he was like, well, that,

that usually affects females.

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And I was like, yeah.

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And he, he did, said that again later.

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And it was like, as I was

getting up and I, I was just

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like, well, I used to be one.

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And he did not say anything to that.

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So I was like, he still

hasn't put it together.

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Like I can give them all the data

in the world they would possibly

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need to not to be able to put

together what they're dealing with.

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And it never.

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Computes because in the, in sort

of the opposite to the way that

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trans women are hyper visible,

trans men are completely invisible.

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Like the average person has no concept

that we are even a thing that occurs.

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beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Right.

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dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

And in general, that that means

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that we're like safer from the kind

of violence that trans women are,

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subject to or, or live the, in the

potential of experiencing all the time.

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But in medical settings, we die

of completely preventable shit

629

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

630

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

the medical field, already ignores

631

:

women's health and then it's never gonna

even be able to wrap its head around

632

:

the idea that trans men are a thing.

633

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Right.

634

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

But yeah, I had some breasts removed.

635

:

Why did I say some?

636

:

Like I kept some others,

like there was more.

637

:

How many were there?

638

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

One thing that made me laugh really

639

:

hard this week, you said a number.

640

:

We were watching, uh, we watched a

lot of YouTube in this house and we

641

:

were watching a random, uh, collection

of Family Feud, funniest moments.

642

:

so the question was, what was a

number that a man might exaggerate

643

:

and the woman went, uh, hundred,

644

:

well, then he gave it to the other lady

and she got her ex, and she was like 69.

645

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh man.

646

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

And I had to go over to the other people.

647

:

And then finally that guy was like his

height, like one of them finally got it.

648

:

But the hundred about took me out.

649

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I, I love when, especially like when

650

:

I'm the person who has said something,

so just incomprehensibly stupid.

651

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh yeah, I do that regularly.

652

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Can you remember the last time

653

:

you absolutely cracked yourself up

654

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh.

655

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

or just your favorite time, like.

656

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Wow.

657

:

I don't know.

658

:

I'm pretty hilarious.

659

:

I've got a lot of, a lot of jokes.

660

:

Like when we were at the, at the graveyard

when we moved my mom's body and we were

661

:

putting my dad in the grave with her.

662

:

We were putting, basically burying

both of my parents together that day.

663

:

And the, cemetery that

they're in is pretty new.

664

:

And so it's still expanding.

665

:

And my niece, uh, commented on that.

666

:

She was like, yeah, this

place is really growing.

667

:

She's like, yeah, I heard

people are dying to get in here.

668

:

That may be the top of

all of my jokes ever.

669

:

Like.

670

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Uh, pretty classic.

671

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Or the time that that Planet Fitness

672

:

texted me and asked me if I wanted

to join, and I said, no thanks.

673

:

I've decided to stay fat.

674

:

they had no sense of humor

about that whatsoever.

675

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Oh, really?

676

:

What'd they say?

677

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

If I change my mind to let 'em know,

678

:

we'll do Chad

679

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

there's some an ad that makes me laugh

680

:

every time I see it, even though I always

know it's a commercial for safe flight.

681

:

You know, the, the windshield repair?

682

:

Yes.

683

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

flight Re.

684

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

There's a shot in one of their ads

685

:

of their van driving away, and on the

back of it it says, nice windshield,

686

:

let us know if things change.

687

:

And I don't know why that, that's

just my specific kind of humor.

688

:

Like that makes me laugh so

hard every time I see it.

689

:

Because imagine actually encountering

that in the wild and being behind that,

690

:

seeing that message and then like all

of a sudden being aware of the fact that

691

:

like, oh God, something could break.

692

:

You know what I found out you know

that joke I was doing with the sponsors

693

:

of the Appalachian wrestling thing,

I found out that that's a real thing.

694

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh wow.

695

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

696

:

They didn't like comment or anything,

but like, and the, the reason I

697

:

found it out is because we actually

are in the same circle is because

698

:

I have some weird friends and.

699

:

On Facebook.

700

:

I have a, friend I made from, uh,

I, well he was a coworker at EKU and

701

:

we also trained at the same Dojo.

702

:

And he is a, professional wrestler

in his, I don't know how he

703

:

has spare time, but he does.

704

:

And he posted on Facebook, like

he's a part of this drama going

705

:

down in, in the, um, Appalachian

Mountain Wrestling Coalition.

706

:

And I was like, oh, shit, I better

stop making those jokes then.

707

:

he's like this, um, kind of

Captain America type thing.

708

:

He wears these like, really

spangled American flag pants,

709

:

these spandex pants and a cape.

710

:

His name is Marvelous Marcus.

711

:

And.

712

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh, nice.

713

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I was like, oh my God, that

714

:

is, that's pretty funny.

715

:

But also, like, I thought I made

that up and apparently I didn't.

716

:

And they, they, uh, meet in Corbin.

717

:

They go all around like the southeast

Kentucky, like the, basically all

718

:

those jokes I was making except,

except they weren't sponsored by

719

:

like folding lawn chairs and shit.

720

:

But like, but it is, I started like

following their Facebook things and

721

:

it is so funny, like the stuff they've

got and they have like actual, like

722

:

the story arc he's in right now, he got

a, a, it's some form of rule breaking.

723

:

I don't know if it was cheating

necessarily, but a cheap shot basically

724

:

where his opponent set him on fire

and he, he actually had this like

725

:

little pyrotechnic in his, in his

like wrist guard or glove or something

726

:

and shot a fireball across the um.

727

:

The ring at Marcus who like, he

was very theatrical and so now he's

728

:

doing all these like rick flair

style things from the hospital with

729

:

these big bandages on his head.

730

:

I just thought like, man, we should

see if he wants to record a little like

731

:

just message and put it in the show.

732

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

That would be awesome.

733

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I, yeah.

734

:

If, if, if anybody's near the Corbin

Hazard region and you go to the

735

:

Appalachian Mountain Wrestling, let

us know if you've seen Marvelous

736

:

Marcus, I forget the name of the guy.

737

:

He who did the Fireball.

738

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

That's pretty amazing though.

739

:

We've reached Mario level of technology.

740

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

and of course it would exist, right?

741

:

It's pretty one of those,

well, I don't know, like what

742

:

is it about wrestling anyway?

743

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I've never understood what, what

744

:

the appeal is, but I don't know.

745

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

You know, I understand it better

746

:

now that I understand drag better.

747

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah,

748

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

749

:

Because it's straight person drag.

750

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

right.

751

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Well,

I think drag is more than the kind of

752

:

drag that like we are aware of in America.

753

:

Like if the, if we like, even if

we expand it back out even more,

754

:

it's just play and it's a specific

kind of play that adults do.

755

:

And I, it's proof of the fact

that we don't like, just suddenly

756

:

not have the need to play anymore

because we're not kids anymore.

757

:

And so like what we think of as

drag is as the gay version of this

758

:

is just one culture's version of.

759

:

That particular kind of play pantomime

or whatever you wanna call it, because

760

:

like, white, cis, straight women,

they've got pageants and stuff.

761

:

Uh, but I don't know some other versions.

762

:

There's probably lots of other versions.

763

:

Listeners let us know.

764

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

There's Dandyism in the black community.

765

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Dandy.

766

:

Okay, hang on.

767

:

I don't know that, let me look that up.

768

:

So is it, does it like stem

from Oh, black Dandyism.

769

:

Got it.

770

:

So it's distinct from like the British, I.

771

:

Cool.

772

:

like a lot of the stuff we talk

about is a version of that,

773

:

like, uh, the county fair, right?

774

:

That is all, well, a lot of it

anyway, the more like the spectator

775

:

portions of it, definitely.

776

:

Mm-hmm.

777

:

And like tractor pull, what the fuck?

778

:

Even who comes up with that?

779

:

And like, I think you can identify,

play as something that, because it's

780

:

not that you never learn anything, it's

not that it's never even constructive.

781

:

All kinds of things only

exist because of play.

782

:

A lot of the skills and techniques we

have, they were just horsing around first.

783

:

But I think at its outset, it's.

784

:

It's a combination of enjoyment

and showing off a little bit.

785

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Aren't most good things.

786

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

787

:

Hi Brisket.

788

:

Well, let's uh, take a break in

here from this week's sponsor.

789

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Okay.

790

:

Hi baby.

791

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

You see him?

792

:

Hey buddy.

793

:

He is fat,

794

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Me too, buddy.

795

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: right?

796

:

You gonna say hello?

797

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I could bring Pita over, but

798

:

she would just growl at us.

799

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

You are shedding so bad.

800

:

I've gotta clean this house

from all the shedding.

801

:

okay.

802

:

You can say hello, but then you

have to leave the microphone alone.

803

:

Let's say it's Memorial Day weekend

and your whole clan is already en

804

:

route, and the pipes start humming

that forlorned melody of imminent

805

:

failure, or a porch step that now

identifies as a ramp has appeared.

806

:

You can call the pros, but they'll want

a down payment just to come look at it.

807

:

Instead, call Hill Williams.

808

:

Rent a friend.

809

:

We may not be bonded, but we also

aren't insured, and you can take that

810

:

to the bank and be swiftly escorted out.

811

:

They haven't spent a single day at

the Greater Appalachian Institute of

812

:

Traditional Tinkering around here,

a PhD from the University of Hold

813

:

My beer and watch this as the only

accreditation we actually trust.

814

:

The Hill William Hallmarks

are the Swiss Army human.

815

:

If it involves a roll of duct tape,

a pair of vice grips, or a very

816

:

specific way of kicking the starter

motor, they've got it handled.

817

:

Redneck ingenuity where a contractor

sees a code violation, a hill William

818

:

friend sees a creative bypass.

819

:

It may not be pretty, but by

God it also might not work.

820

:

Judgment free labor.

821

:

They don't care that you tried to fix

it yourself first and made it worse.

822

:

They've done the same thing.

823

:

They're just Here to

help you finish the job.

824

:

Since we aren't limited by codes or

best practices, we've put together

825

:

some specialized friend packages.

826

:

These are tailored to those moments

when you don't need a contractor.

827

:

You just need a guy who owns

a truck and asks no questions.

828

:

The Gaum-Mess special.

829

:

When you started a simple weekend project

that has now taken over the entire living

830

:

room, kitchen and personality, we'll send

over a friend just to finish it for you.

831

:

The Slaunchwise solution.

832

:

If your mailbox is leaning at a 45

degree angle or your deck is a little

833

:

Slaunchwise our friend specializes in

functional gravity, we'll shim it, kick

834

:

it or tie it to a nearby tree, or our

paint hunter HVAC electrical special.

835

:

If your AC sounds like a trapped ghost

or your lights are flicking like there's

836

:

an open portal to another dimension.

837

:

This one's for you.

838

:

This one requires a purchase of

a case of bush ice for the liquid

839

:

courage to touch the shoddy wiring.

840

:

If you don't know how you got here, try

the bless your heart bulk by one friend

841

:

with a working knowledge of the redneck

way, a large poke of assorted zip ties and

842

:

duct tape, two hours of labor that ends

with the phrase, this ain't going nowhere.

843

:

kerosene matches in a hastily

acquired insurance policy.

844

:

If we can't fix it, we'll at least

sit with you while you process

845

:

how it came to this and shake

our heads and commiseration.

846

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

That's fun.

847

:

He is really enjoying your

848

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I don't know what it is,

849

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

You're busy using it.

850

:

Hello Kitty kitty, kitty.

851

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

if you chew on that.

852

:

All right.

853

:

Look at the fur flying.

854

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

He is so pretty.

855

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

856

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

the stains on his face.

857

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: he's,

he's from a very, um, multi-ethnic litter.

858

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

859

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

They're all, they look

860

:

unrelated, but is raccoon tail.

861

:

I'm gonna sit you down because

you're really overstimulating me.

862

:

Thank you.

863

:

I think the worst part about

having cats and a beard is how

864

:

much cross-contamination there is.

865

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

We went to, uh, when my friend

866

:

was here, we went to a stained

art or a stained glass art class.

867

:

Uh, we made sun catchers

and it was a lot of fun.

868

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

So that, that was like real glass.

869

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

870

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Wow.

871

:

I just saw you post that and

then I, my mom used to do

872

:

this kind that you just paint.

873

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah, no, so it start, so you

874

:

start out with a pattern, right?

875

:

And then you copy the pattern, and then

you cut out the little pieces of paper.

876

:

Then you take those little pieces of paper

and overlay them on your pieces of glass

877

:

to make sure that they're the right size.

878

:

Then you have to like, score it and cut

it and break the glass and all around it.

879

:

And then they have these grinders

that you use to smooth it out.

880

:

they're like a wet grinder.

881

:

And then once you smooth it all

out, then you use a copper tape

882

:

that you put all around it.

883

:

And then you use the flux, and then

you use the the aluminum or whatever

884

:

it is, the, the metal, whatever.

885

:

Metal.

886

:

I think it's aluminum that just a big bar.

887

:

And you use it with the,

I'm losing my words here.

888

:

What's the word?

889

:

The hot thing that you

890

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

A solder.

891

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yes, the soldering iron.

892

:

And then the metal with that, and

then you just go through and you

893

:

cover all of the copper tape with it.

894

:

It was a lot of fun.

895

:

I made a, a dog's paw.

896

:

Shannon made a, a hand doing the I love

you hand, and Tracy made a fish, so

897

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Cool.

898

:

I.

899

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

I would definitely do it again.

900

:

It was a lot of fun, especially

now that I know what I'm doing,

901

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

902

:

Uh, I played with enamels for, um, just

like one semester in, uh, college, which

903

:

is, it's not like it's similar to stained

glass because some of the powder, whatever

904

:

that you fire to make the, the colors,

it's some of its ground up glass, I think.

905

:

But I, I, it was kind of,

um, unpredictable because the

906

:

way it doesn't look like it's

gonna look when it comes out.

907

:

And so you'll think like, oh, this

color is gonna be beautiful or

908

:

whatever, and it'll come out brown.

909

:

So I was not super, I, I know it's

because I wasn't very knowledgeable

910

:

and people who know what they're doing

can make beautiful things doing that.

911

:

But I think the glass thing would

be more fun 'cause you could kind

912

:

of, if you weren't already super

knowledgeable, still kind of make

913

:

something cool by accident, at least.

914

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

915

:

It was crazy how much chemistry

was involved with Shannon's glazes

916

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Mm-hmm.

917

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

and stuff in her, in her,

918

:

uh, ceramics program.

919

:

There was a lot of chemistry involved.

920

:

I.

921

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Yeah, my mom worked at a ceramics

922

:

place for a while down in Tennessee.

923

:

I don't remember exactly what she did.

924

:

I think she, uh, well it was a small

place, so she probably did a little bit of

925

:

everything, but it wasn't like that stuff.

926

:

It was mostly just the kind where you pour

it into a mold and make certain things.

927

:

I think we must've been really small

or we didn't go there very often.

928

:

You know, like when you're a certain age,

you go to work with your parents a lot.

929

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

930

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

So I remembering like she had

931

:

so many weird jobs like that

when we were, when I was small.

932

:

If I was small then Vanessa

was probably like an infant.

933

:

Yeah, she worked at a ceramics

place and she worked at do

934

:

you know the brand Duck Head?

935

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Uh, vaguely.

936

:

Vaguely.

937

:

I think.

938

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

It's kind of like a, a tough

939

:

wearing, you know, jeans company.

940

:

I don't know if they're still around.

941

:

They had a plant there, in Jellico

942

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Oh.

943

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

that she worked at for a while.

944

:

I wonder if they're still around.

945

:

Always future facing, drawing

strength, growth and inspiration

946

:

from its deep roots in history.

947

:

These are clothes, you guys, are you okay?

948

:

Yeah.

949

:

Like this is one of those like

fancy brands that outsourced.

950

:

Its like they, it probably

went from in Jellico to.

951

:

Uh, Singapore or something, you

know, like they as soon as there

952

:

was a third er world to send

their, to outsource their labor to.

953

:

They did, but it was fucking, and it was

kind of weird because it was like whatever

954

:

factory there was around that there would

be random really nice clothes from it

955

:

on the poorest kids you've ever seen.

956

:

And it was always like stuff that

the stitches weren't quite right or,

957

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Right.

958

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

'cause they was uh, also, uh, a lot

959

:

of kids in the high school, they were

wearing Jordache and like Guess jeans,

960

:

like super popular, expensive shit.

961

:

But it's because it was all made

in factories around there, and

962

:

all the seconds got thrown out

or sold at the second stores.

963

:

Did you ever shop at those,

like the, was it goodies?

964

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Like the factory stores.

965

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Yeah, there was certain stores

966

:

around like Corbin or down in

Lafa that only sold seconds, and

967

:

I think Goodies was one of them.

968

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Yeah.

969

:

We had a goodies.

970

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: I

was in TJ Maxx one time and I said, I

971

:

was talking to the person I was with

and referenced, I said something like,

972

:

check the zippers on that before you

get it, because these are seconds,

973

:

and so sometimes it's the zipper.

974

:

And a, a staff member was going by and she

goes, they're not seconds, it's overstock.

975

:

And I was like, okay.

976

:

The overstock in the store just happens

to mostly have ruined zippers and seams

977

:

and two different length pants slicks.

978

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

Like Gabe's,

979

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Gabes, I haven't heard of that one.

980

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

oh, they're, they're a big chain.

981

:

Used to be Gabriel Brothers.

982

:

Now it's just Gabe's.

983

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

Gabe's?

984

:

No, I don't.

985

:

Don't use my precise location.

986

:

American off-price Department

store headquartered in

987

:

Morgantown, West Virginia.

988

:

Haven't heard of that one.

989

:

What about an Ollie's?

990

:

I love an Ollie's.

991

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

But there's a Ollie up here in BG

992

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248: Yeah.

993

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

where the big Lots used to be.

994

:

dash--he-him-_33_03-29-2026_110248:

I love a cheap ass store.

995

:

I.

996

:

beck-a-roonie-guest595_34_03-29-2026_120245:

yeah, me too.

997

:

But I will not eat food from them.

998

:

I just, my dad was a regional manager

for Big Lots at odd lots when in the

999

:

eighties and they would get food in and

there would be spoiled food in the food,

:

00:43:42,975 --> 00:43:44,685

in the canned stuff and stuff like that.

:

00:43:44,685 --> 00:43:46,695

And I just heard too many horror stories.

:

00:43:46,845 --> 00:43:48,615

-:

The dollar stores are the same way.

:

00:43:49,945 --> 00:43:50,305

-:

either.

:

00:43:50,705 --> 00:43:52,475

-:

like there are certain things that

:

00:43:52,475 --> 00:43:54,995

I will get from a dollar store that

:

00:43:55,395 --> 00:43:59,455

it's, it's kind of like knowing how

to buy food at the Dollar Store is

:

00:43:59,455 --> 00:44:01,555

similar to being literate in media.

:

00:44:02,326 --> 00:44:06,616

Like you have to know how to

decide what is okay to take

:

00:44:06,616 --> 00:44:07,666

a chance on and what's not.

:

00:44:08,066 --> 00:44:11,276

Like I've seen people that got

like dog food or something from

:

00:44:11,276 --> 00:44:12,836

the Dollar Store, full 'em moths.

:

00:44:13,236 --> 00:44:14,796

-:

Have you seen the dollar steaks?

:

00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:18,126

Who's buying and eaten the

dollar steaks from the Dollar

:

00:44:18,246 --> 00:44:19,596

General or the Dollar Tree?

:

00:44:19,596 --> 00:44:20,946

The Dollar Tree has 'em here.

:

00:44:21,306 --> 00:44:21,696

-:

Mm-hmm.

:

00:44:22,026 --> 00:44:27,166

Like you go there and get some bulk

candy or get your pops or whatever.

:

00:44:27,646 --> 00:44:29,036

But yeah.

:

00:44:29,156 --> 00:44:30,986

-:

a garbage can from my bathroom there.

:

00:44:31,016 --> 00:44:31,436

Like

:

00:44:31,556 --> 00:44:31,676

-:

:

00:44:31,796 --> 00:44:32,756

-:

things like that or.

:

00:44:33,156 --> 00:44:33,606

-:

:

00:44:34,006 --> 00:44:36,616

Although, like something

that happens out here.

:

00:44:36,646 --> 00:44:38,086

'cause nobody cares.

:

00:44:38,116 --> 00:44:40,486

Nobody, you're not, nobody's

gonna get reported for a

:

00:44:40,486 --> 00:44:41,866

single goddamn thing out here.

:

00:44:42,266 --> 00:44:47,186

So the stores, the grocery stores, they

don't cycle out their expired stuff.

:

00:44:47,216 --> 00:44:53,496

They don't, I, I bought a thing of

peanut butter at the store here and

:

00:44:53,496 --> 00:44:56,016

I opened it and it was more solid.

:

00:44:56,046 --> 00:44:58,386

It was solid like Play-Doh

that had been set out.

:

00:44:58,786 --> 00:45:04,616

And I was, and all of the um, the oil, the

peanut oil had separated up out the top.

:

00:45:04,646 --> 00:45:07,586

And I was like, okay, maybe I

just need to stir it or something.

:

00:45:07,986 --> 00:45:08,706

It wouldn't stir.

:

00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:10,566

It was actually solid

:

00:45:10,906 --> 00:45:11,126

-:

wow.

:

00:45:11,436 --> 00:45:11,886

-:

under that.

:

00:45:11,886 --> 00:45:13,326

And I was like, what is going on?

:

00:45:13,326 --> 00:45:16,536

Because it was just Kroger brand,

which should have been my first

:

00:45:16,566 --> 00:45:17,796

'cause there's not a Kroger here.

:

00:45:17,886 --> 00:45:19,656

And it, I did not buy this at a Kroger.

:

00:45:20,016 --> 00:45:22,326

I bought it at the, fell off

the back of the truck store

:

00:45:22,801 --> 00:45:23,371

-:

Gotcha.

:

00:45:23,556 --> 00:45:24,966

-:

So I was like, oh, okay.

:

00:45:24,996 --> 00:45:29,766

And I looked at the uh, best Buy date on

it and it was six months prior to that.

:

00:45:29,826 --> 00:45:30,456

-:

Oh wow.

:

00:45:30,856 --> 00:45:32,536

-:

The best buy date on something

:

00:45:32,536 --> 00:45:36,676

that is damn near shelf stable

is like two years in the future.

:

00:45:37,339 --> 00:45:37,629

-:

Yeah,

:

00:45:38,064 --> 00:45:40,224

-:

So this stuff rolled off of whatever

:

00:45:40,224 --> 00:45:42,219

assembly line five years ago.

:

00:45:43,416 --> 00:45:45,636

And I was like, what do I do about this?

:

00:45:45,636 --> 00:45:47,886

You know, like I'm becoming

part of the problem now.

:

00:45:47,886 --> 00:45:49,416

'cause I don't know

who to tell about this,

:

00:45:54,813 --> 00:45:56,163

-:

One time I saw a recipe on the

:

00:45:56,163 --> 00:45:59,373

back of a ketchup bottle, and I

posted about it on Facebook and my

:

00:45:59,373 --> 00:46:00,993

friend went and made the recipe.

:

00:46:01,023 --> 00:46:01,983

Guess what it was?

:

00:46:02,383 --> 00:46:02,603

-:

:

00:46:02,628 --> 00:46:04,398

-:

Peanut butter, ketchup cookies.

:

00:46:05,644 --> 00:46:07,629

-:

was this like a name brand ketchup?

:

00:46:08,029 --> 00:46:08,569

-:

heinz.

:

00:46:08,899 --> 00:46:09,829

-:

Oh my god.

:

00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:11,809

Was this a April Fool's joke or some shit?

:

00:46:12,373 --> 00:46:13,903

-:

it was just a regular bottle with

:

00:46:13,903 --> 00:46:17,803

a peanut butter cookie recipe on

the back of it when I was appalled.

:

00:46:17,803 --> 00:46:21,043

So I posted about it on Facebook, and

my friend Tara was like, I'll bake 'em.

:

00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:23,743

And she made them, and she

said they weren't too bad.

:

00:46:24,143 --> 00:46:24,683

I was like, Ugh,

:

00:46:25,455 --> 00:46:26,230

-:

What a weird

:

00:46:26,563 --> 00:46:28,243

-:

yeah, I like sweet and salty, you know?

:

00:46:28,243 --> 00:46:29,473

I like sweet and sour.

:

00:46:29,473 --> 00:46:33,973

I like the, the dichotomy of sweet

and something else, but no, no, no.

:

00:46:33,973 --> 00:46:35,233

Not peanut butter and ketchup.

:

00:46:35,633 --> 00:46:37,553

-:

Yeah, well, 'cause ketchup isn't,

:

00:46:37,803 --> 00:46:39,333

it's neither sweet nor salty.

:

00:46:39,573 --> 00:46:40,983

Tomatoes are umami.

:

00:46:41,013 --> 00:46:43,963

So there are five tongue tastes.

:

00:46:43,963 --> 00:46:47,853

I think especially in the western

world in America, we only think

:

00:46:47,858 --> 00:46:51,513

about the four sweet salty,

sour, and what's the other one?

:

00:46:51,913 --> 00:46:52,333

Bitter.

:

00:46:52,583 --> 00:46:52,883

-:

Yeah.

:

00:46:53,153 --> 00:46:55,073

-:

but there's a fifth one called umami,

:

00:46:55,343 --> 00:46:58,623

which is the flavor of a mushroom.

:

00:46:58,623 --> 00:46:59,913

It's that earthy flavor.

:

00:47:00,313 --> 00:47:05,623

And tomatoes are really like

somebody I, I saw some Alton Brown

:

00:47:05,623 --> 00:47:09,223

thing where they were looking for

the most umami flavor there is.

:

00:47:09,223 --> 00:47:11,383

And tomatoes have the most of that.

:

00:47:11,383 --> 00:47:17,683

And so like, that's one of the reasons

why like ketchup is shoved full of sugar

:

00:47:17,743 --> 00:47:22,603

and all these other additives and it's

still always gonna taste like that.

:

00:47:23,003 --> 00:47:25,163

You can't get the tomato ness out of it.

:

00:47:25,563 --> 00:47:27,603

It's one of the reasons

I think it does exist.

:

00:47:27,723 --> 00:47:31,053

Isn't it also technically a mustard

getting into weird stuff here?

:

00:47:31,453 --> 00:47:33,953

' cause there's different kinds

of mustards or No, there's

:

00:47:33,953 --> 00:47:34,733

different kinds of ketchups.

:

00:47:35,501 --> 00:47:36,281

What is ketchup?

:

00:47:37,417 --> 00:47:38,707

Google's gonna be so sick of me.

:

00:47:39,107 --> 00:47:40,147

-:

Google's just gonna be glad

:

00:47:40,147 --> 00:47:42,812

you're not searching for porn like

everybody else on the internet.

:

00:47:43,958 --> 00:47:46,253

Unless you're using the mustard

for the and for the porn.

:

00:47:46,653 --> 00:47:46,743

-:

:

00:47:47,143 --> 00:47:47,653

All right.

:

00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:51,003

Different kinds of ketchup.

:

00:47:51,403 --> 00:47:55,763

Banana, mango, apple, mushroom,

walnut, curry, truffle.

:

00:47:55,763 --> 00:47:55,973

Yeah.

:

00:47:55,973 --> 00:48:02,269

So there's like, ketchup is a process,

not necessarily its ingredients,

:

00:48:02,669 --> 00:48:07,246

um, but like, um, I think America

is most into tomato, ketchup.

:

00:48:07,646 --> 00:48:09,176

-:

Fancy tomato ketchup at that.

:

00:48:09,281 --> 00:48:10,001

-:

tomato, ketchup.

:

00:48:10,001 --> 00:48:10,241

Yeah.

:

00:48:10,661 --> 00:48:13,781

Like this is, I have gone down

this rabbit hole before and I,

:

00:48:13,781 --> 00:48:16,211

I'm not gonna do it again because

it actually gets kind of deep.

:

00:48:16,611 --> 00:48:17,481

I, but ketchup.

:

00:48:17,541 --> 00:48:18,381

Oh my God.

:

00:48:18,621 --> 00:48:20,871

That used to be I would

eat ketchup sandwiches.

:

00:48:20,871 --> 00:48:22,731

I would eat shit just so

I could put ketchup on it.

:

00:48:23,131 --> 00:48:23,211

-:

Ew.

:

00:48:23,556 --> 00:48:27,006

So when I worked at a group home one

time, I had a same guy that did that too.

:

00:48:27,126 --> 00:48:31,910

He say, put ketchup on it, Harv,

and he put ketchup on everything.

:

00:48:32,310 --> 00:48:34,800

-:

Uh, I'm, I mean, I'm prob I

:

00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,330

wouldn't say everything, but I do.

:

00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:38,470

I don't know, I just

loved the flavor of it.

:

00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:43,420

I loved that my two favorite flavors

were whatever that umami was.

:

00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:45,100

Like anything that had that in it.

:

00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:47,840

Um, and salt.

:

00:48:48,290 --> 00:48:55,180

So I would take just a white piece

of white bread and put a fuck load

:

00:48:55,180 --> 00:48:58,670

of ketchup on it and just another

piece on top of it, and that I would

:

00:48:58,730 --> 00:49:00,410

eat literally a ketchup sandwich.

:

00:49:00,711 --> 00:49:04,191

I would, um, suck on bullion cubes.

:

00:49:04,973 --> 00:49:05,053

-:

Ew.

:

00:49:05,584 --> 00:49:06,694

-:

I just, I think I needed a

:

00:49:06,694 --> 00:49:08,254

lot of salt when I was a kid.

:

00:49:08,254 --> 00:49:10,114

I think my body was like craving salt.

:

00:49:10,314 --> 00:49:13,734

'Cause I would also take

the, the salt packets.

:

00:49:13,734 --> 00:49:16,494

You'd get it like a Hardee's or

something, and I would put them in my

:

00:49:16,584 --> 00:49:19,044

lip, like it was a, a dip or something.

:

00:49:19,044 --> 00:49:22,444

And I would suck on those

until the salt was all gone.

:

00:49:22,444 --> 00:49:23,374

And then I would eat the paper.

:

00:49:23,374 --> 00:49:24,934

I used to also love eating paper.

:

00:49:25,206 --> 00:49:25,896

-:

That's different.

:

00:49:26,129 --> 00:49:27,359

-:

I think that I just was

:

00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:28,889

a little malnourished.

:

00:49:29,099 --> 00:49:33,629

And so I, I remember like

crawling around the floor looking

:

00:49:33,629 --> 00:49:34,829

for pieces of paper to eat,

:

00:49:38,008 --> 00:49:41,578

and then I discovered the spices

and things in the cabinet.

:

00:49:41,578 --> 00:49:44,848

And so I would, I would

suck on the bullion cubes.

:

00:49:44,848 --> 00:49:46,018

Those were my favorites.

:

00:49:46,318 --> 00:49:49,498

And I think mom actually did eventually

be like, where's all my bullion going?

:

00:49:50,676 --> 00:49:55,416

That's how I, I, I think learned

to make meals and get calories

:

00:49:55,416 --> 00:49:58,926

and things like that from the,

at the food court and stuff.

:

00:49:58,926 --> 00:50:02,796

Like, I would take the hot sauce packets

and I would eat those ketchup packets,

:

00:50:02,796 --> 00:50:06,906

mustard, honey, and a lot of like, salt.

:

00:50:06,906 --> 00:50:08,436

And I would just eat

that stuff all the time.

:

00:50:08,836 --> 00:50:10,006

But yeah, it is real weird.

:

00:50:10,406 --> 00:50:10,696

-:

Yeah,

:

00:50:10,971 --> 00:50:11,781

-:

I don't know what paper,

:

00:50:11,781 --> 00:50:12,531

what it was about paper.

:

00:50:12,531 --> 00:50:14,031

There's nothing nutritional about paper.

:

00:50:14,091 --> 00:50:14,901

I just liked it.

:

00:50:15,301 --> 00:50:16,231

-:

it's got a lot of fiber,

:

00:50:16,686 --> 00:50:17,196

-:

:

00:50:17,596 --> 00:50:17,896

-:

but I'm,

:

00:50:18,606 --> 00:50:19,476

-:

well, did you bring us a

:

00:50:19,476 --> 00:50:20,736

noun of Appalachian interest?

:

00:50:21,096 --> 00:50:23,226

-:

I did, I did, I did.

:

00:50:23,226 --> 00:50:28,371

Uh, this one has my mother-in-law

in mind because she has a whole.

:

00:50:29,641 --> 00:50:30,541

full of these.

:

00:50:30,751 --> 00:50:31,021

-:

:

00:50:31,141 --> 00:50:32,641

-:

All right, let's talk about a true

:

00:50:32,641 --> 00:50:35,401

Appalachian icon, the paper plate holder.

:

00:50:35,761 --> 00:50:38,911

Now, if you didn't grow up with

one, it might not look like much.

:

00:50:38,911 --> 00:50:43,741

Just a little plastic frame, usually

red that your paper plate snaps into.

:

00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:48,001

But the second that you use it, you

realize this thing is doing serious work.

:

00:50:48,271 --> 00:50:52,051

It takes a plate that's one scoop

of potato salad away from folding

:

00:50:52,051 --> 00:50:54,871

in half and turning it into

something you can actually trust.

:

00:50:55,201 --> 00:50:57,121

Because Appalachian food is heavy.

:

00:50:57,421 --> 00:51:00,451

We're not out here balancing a

few chips and calling it dinner.

:

00:51:00,661 --> 00:51:04,351

We're sticking baked beans and macaroni,

deviled eggs, and maybe a piece of

:

00:51:04,351 --> 00:51:06,181

cakes that's that's already leaning.

:

00:51:06,541 --> 00:51:09,181

That plate is under pressure,

and without help, it's gonna

:

00:51:09,181 --> 00:51:11,101

fail you, but not with a holder.

:

00:51:11,521 --> 00:51:13,771

That little piece of

plastic gives you structure.

:

00:51:13,771 --> 00:51:18,241

You can stand to talk, walk across the

yard, maybe even chase a kid or two,

:

00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:19,596

and your food stays where it belongs.

:

00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,050

No midair folding, no panic

catch, just stability.

:

00:51:24,110 --> 00:51:25,430

And you'll see them everywhere.

:

00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:27,530

Cookouts, church dinners, family reunions.

:

00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:29,210

Somebody always brings a stack.

:

00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:32,450

Some are a little warped, some got a

stain that tell a story, but they're all

:

00:51:32,450 --> 00:51:34,850

still in rotation, still doing their job.

:

00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:37,820

It's not fancy, it's not

new, but it solves a problem.

:

00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:41,330

And it solves it well, the paper plate

holder, because sometimes you don't need

:

00:51:41,330 --> 00:51:43,520

more plate, you just need a little backup.

:

00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,500

-:

I remember, um, styrofoam

:

00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,030

plates were revolutionary.

:

00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:51,405

Everybody thought those were just,

' cause they, they solved that problem.

:

00:51:51,934 --> 00:51:52,264

-:

Yeah.

:

00:51:52,264 --> 00:51:53,344

The soggy problem.

:

00:51:53,744 --> 00:51:54,944

But they would break in half pretty

:

00:51:55,294 --> 00:51:55,714

-:

Mm-hmm.

:

00:51:56,114 --> 00:51:58,184

-:

But yeah, no, the, the paper plate holder,

:

00:51:58,304 --> 00:52:02,954

uh, my mother-in-law has been using

those since Shanna was a kid and they,

:

00:52:02,954 --> 00:52:05,564

they, she's a diehard fan of them, man.

:

00:52:05,894 --> 00:52:07,184

And I think they're great.

:

00:52:07,184 --> 00:52:07,394

'cause you

:

00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:07,759

-:

:

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-:

dishes, but you still get dish quality.

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00:52:10,154 --> 00:52:10,724

You know,

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00:52:10,789 --> 00:52:11,119

-:

:

00:52:11,179 --> 00:52:11,897

They're genius.

:

00:52:12,097 --> 00:52:15,157

And if you lost one or broke

one, then you were in some shit.

:

00:52:15,557 --> 00:52:20,237

Vanessa had a birthday yesterday

and she said her kids got her

:

00:52:20,477 --> 00:52:22,722

silverware for her birthday.

:

00:52:23,218 --> 00:52:24,693

-:

That's an odd choice.

:

00:52:25,093 --> 00:52:26,473

-:

Maybe she wanted it, maybe she

:

00:52:26,473 --> 00:52:29,597

did that thing where she was like,

sure would like some silverware And

:

00:52:29,597 --> 00:52:30,857

the kids are like, I have an idea.

:

00:52:31,443 --> 00:52:34,243

Mom's gonna be 70 this year, assuming.

:

00:52:34,497 --> 00:52:35,487

-:

Yeah, my mom died two

:

00:52:35,487 --> 00:52:36,777

weeks before she turned 70.

:

00:52:36,777 --> 00:52:37,827

She almost made it.

:

00:52:38,202 --> 00:52:38,772

-:

:

00:52:39,172 --> 00:52:44,330

You know, like she's back in the

hospital, um, now, but, they say

:

00:52:44,330 --> 00:52:45,860

they have an idea for treatment.

:

00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:49,250

Here's the thing, here's the thing

about what this big, beautiful fucking

:

00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:53,340

bill has done and about what rural.

:

00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:59,050

Access to rural medicine is like,

because they know what's wrong with her.

:

00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:02,480

She's got lung cancer and she has,

uh, some sort of heart failure.

:

00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:06,840

They're not sure, but, um, she's

gonna need a pacemaker and they

:

00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,290

keep having to drain off fluid

that collects in her chest.

:

00:53:11,350 --> 00:53:12,460

I'm not sure where it's coming from.

:

00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,960

The all that stuff is so jammed together.

:

00:53:15,020 --> 00:53:15,320

But,

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00:53:15,610 --> 00:53:15,960

-:

Right.

:

00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,550

-:

so like they know she needs a pacemaker

:

00:53:19,820 --> 00:53:26,730

and some medication to help with that,

but her heart's not, it's not awful.

:

00:53:26,730 --> 00:53:26,940

Right?

:

00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:27,690

It can be repaired.

:

00:53:27,690 --> 00:53:29,190

She might need a new valve, maybe.

:

00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:35,660

But they can't do that until they treat

the cancer because cancer is causing the

:

00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:38,520

excess fluid, uh, problem they think.

:

00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:43,020

But they can't treat the cancer until they

find out whether it's metastasized first.

:

00:53:43,420 --> 00:53:44,980

They can't do that until they.

:

00:53:45,380 --> 00:53:50,370

Do this kind of scan, a PET scan, and

there's one fucking pet scanner in all of

:

00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:55,150

eastern Kentucky that drives around on a

semi-truck and it's like from hospital to

:

00:53:55,150 --> 00:53:57,400

hospital and it's booked out for months.

:

00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,550

So

:

00:53:58,550 --> 00:53:59,450

-:

oh wow.

:

00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:02,600

-:

it's like they feel like they could,

:

00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,710

whatever it is, is treatable, but

is there time to navigate this mess?

:

00:54:07,710 --> 00:54:10,330

And then, not to mention that

they're on Medicare and one of

:

00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:11,890

those parts has been canceled.

:

00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:13,930

So that probably adds to the wait time.

:

00:54:14,330 --> 00:54:14,960

-:

Yeah, for

:

00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,500

sure.

:

00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:17,630

Could they go to a

different part of the state?

:

00:54:18,030 --> 00:54:20,280

-:

No, like you have to go, you have

:

00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,920

to go through that maze of referral

and seeing this doctor, like for,

:

00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,690

she's in the hospital right now.

:

00:54:27,870 --> 00:54:32,100

They can't do the scans because

they can't be ordered out of order.

:

00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:34,980

'cause Vanessa was like, can't they

just sneak this shit in while you're

:

00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:36,270

just sitting there in the hospital?

:

00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:37,320

And she's like, Nope.

:

00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:37,980

Apparently not.

:

00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:39,460

-:

Bless her heart.

:

00:54:39,550 --> 00:54:41,080

-:

is what we meant by this

:

00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,130

is gonna kill people.

:

00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:43,100

-:

Yeah.

:

00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:45,720

-:

Because when you cut down on the

:

00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:49,290

resource itself, then it turns

into a case of there's one scanner

:

00:54:49,290 --> 00:54:54,550

floating around a whole region trying

to treat its aging population whose

:

00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:57,020

benefits have also been canceled.

:

00:54:57,420 --> 00:54:58,380

I just thought of that though.

:

00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:01,890

Like when I, I remember thinking about

the big beautiful bill and it feel, it

:

00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:06,150

felt like we kind of moved on, which we

do because this shit just keeps coming.

:

00:55:06,939 --> 00:55:09,519

and then I just remembered

like, no, this is what we knew.

:

00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:10,959

This is how we knew this was gonna go.

:

00:55:10,959 --> 00:55:12,939

This is what it's gonna do for people.

:

00:55:13,339 --> 00:55:15,529

I just, I hope we get out of this shit,

:

00:55:15,929 --> 00:55:17,014

-:

I hope we survive it.

:

00:55:17,414 --> 00:55:19,094

-:

but it just could be too late.

:

00:55:19,094 --> 00:55:21,254

It probably already is too

late for several people.

:

00:55:21,314 --> 00:55:22,184

I mean, for all we know.

:

00:55:22,584 --> 00:55:23,904

I think he's gonna die soon though.

:

00:55:23,904 --> 00:55:25,854

People are like, he looks like shit.

:

00:55:26,254 --> 00:55:26,644

-:

Well.

:

00:55:26,884 --> 00:55:27,754

We can hope

:

00:55:28,154 --> 00:55:28,394

-:

:

00:55:28,394 --> 00:55:30,404

If anybody's getting the best

medical care in the world, it's

:

00:55:30,404 --> 00:55:32,154

gonna be this undeserving fuck.

:

00:55:32,244 --> 00:55:32,754

-:

hard.

:

00:55:32,904 --> 00:55:32,964

Yeah.

:

00:55:34,125 --> 00:55:35,445

-:

I'm, I'm impressed that she's

:

00:55:35,445 --> 00:55:36,765

going to the doctor, right?

:

00:55:36,765 --> 00:55:40,302

Like, this is not behavior that she has

ever like exhibited before in her life.

:

00:55:40,782 --> 00:55:43,732

So, and she said something

like, gosh, why me?

:

00:55:43,732 --> 00:55:45,622

Why does it feel like it's

all piling up right now?

:

00:55:45,622 --> 00:55:48,502

And I was like, I don't know, because

you've been sick for decades and

:

00:55:48,502 --> 00:55:50,302

refused to go to the fucking doctor.

:

00:55:50,702 --> 00:55:51,472

-:

That could be it,

:

00:55:52,139 --> 00:55:53,549

-:

And she just went, good point.

:

00:55:53,949 --> 00:55:55,389

I learned it from watching you, mom.

:

00:55:58,325 --> 00:55:59,555

No, I'm going to the doc.

:

00:55:59,585 --> 00:56:01,715

I mean, I haven't, but I am now.

:

00:56:01,715 --> 00:56:04,265

I'm trying to become somebody that

takes their health more seriously

:

00:56:04,265 --> 00:56:06,035

in my forties instead of my sixties

:

00:56:06,435 --> 00:56:06,785

-:

right?

:

00:56:07,402 --> 00:56:07,972

-:

anyway.

:

00:56:08,372 --> 00:56:11,522

It's gonna be 60 degrees here today,

so I think I'm gonna go for a bike

:

00:56:11,522 --> 00:56:14,112

ride before I make make the episode.

:

00:56:14,512 --> 00:56:16,372

-:

Shanna had the whole weekend off

:

00:56:16,772 --> 00:56:17,282

-:

All right.

:

00:56:17,282 --> 00:56:19,122

-:

here I didn't do any work

:

00:56:19,182 --> 00:56:20,232

'cause Tracy was here.

:

00:56:20,232 --> 00:56:25,032

So Shanna goes to work at four and I

have lots of work to do to keep me busy.

:

00:56:25,062 --> 00:56:25,542

So,

:

00:56:25,902 --> 00:56:28,792

-:

Well, I'll be working too, and

:

00:56:29,192 --> 00:56:33,342

tomorrow I'll be doing scary and

uncomfortable things and then after

:

00:56:33,342 --> 00:56:35,772

that I'll, I don't know what I'll do.

:

00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:39,372

I'll make a to-do list and I'll, I'll

post it on the Facebook and we'll all.

:

00:56:39,772 --> 00:56:43,742

We can all say what we're

gonna do today on Monday, and

:

00:56:43,742 --> 00:56:45,672

then whether we did it or not,

:

00:56:46,072 --> 00:56:46,582

-:

you know, there's only

:

00:56:46,582 --> 00:56:47,962

four weeks left of classes.

:

00:56:48,362 --> 00:56:48,872

-:

:

00:56:49,272 --> 00:56:50,682

-:

Thank the baby Jesus.

:

00:56:51,082 --> 00:56:54,112

-:

there's a, a job I gotta apply for

:

00:56:54,112 --> 00:56:58,942

over in the cities, uh, for a summer

course they need taught that I am,

:

00:56:59,342 --> 00:57:00,542

it's something about television.

:

00:57:00,542 --> 00:57:02,162

So it's like, oh shit, I can do that.

:

00:57:02,562 --> 00:57:02,942

-:

Yeah.

:

00:57:03,342 --> 00:57:05,022

-:

that's, uh, on my to-do list tomorrow

:

00:57:05,022 --> 00:57:08,952

is to apply for a couple of jobs

I've found or people have sent me.

:

00:57:09,352 --> 00:57:09,982

I really do.

:

00:57:10,012 --> 00:57:14,182

Like I'm, I have some good people

to good support and, you know,

:

00:57:14,182 --> 00:57:17,362

people like send me like, Hey, is

this something you could apply to?

:

00:57:17,362 --> 00:57:20,242

I'm like, fuck, I don't know, but

I'll, I'm sending my resume in.

:

00:57:20,642 --> 00:57:20,992

-:

Right.

:

00:57:21,022 --> 00:57:21,982

-:

We'll see.

:

00:57:22,382 --> 00:57:24,482

Well I guess we ought go.

:

00:57:24,682 --> 00:57:27,532

Listeners have a, have a nice week.

:

00:57:27,742 --> 00:57:29,962

Hopefully it's getting warm there.

:

00:57:29,962 --> 00:57:32,422

If it has been cold like it has been here.

:

00:57:32,822 --> 00:57:32,942

-:

I.

:

00:57:33,342 --> 00:57:34,722

-:

And should we do Coal

:

00:57:34,722 --> 00:57:35,862

Miner's Daughter next week?

:

00:57:35,982 --> 00:57:37,572

Will you have time to watch the movie or,

:

00:57:37,972 --> 00:57:41,062

-:

Uh, lemme get back to you on that.

:

00:57:41,377 --> 00:57:41,617

-:

all right.

:

00:57:41,662 --> 00:57:42,742

-:

check some things out and I'll,

:

00:57:42,742 --> 00:57:43,882

I'll, I'll see what I can do.

:

00:57:44,282 --> 00:57:44,572

-:

:

00:57:44,972 --> 00:57:49,402

We also, if, if, if anybody wants to

actually be in our discord, we don't

:

00:57:49,402 --> 00:57:52,822

do anything with it, and there's like

three people in it, including us.

:

00:57:53,222 --> 00:57:57,182

But, uh, uh, some people, 'cause I

mentioned it before, have actually

:

00:57:57,182 --> 00:57:59,604

asked like, what do, what do we do that?

:

00:57:59,754 --> 00:58:03,574

So if you want to join the

Discord, I'll figure out a I'll.

:

00:58:03,974 --> 00:58:05,669

I don't think we have to

worry about anybody being in

:

00:58:05,669 --> 00:58:07,829

there like horrible, you know?

:

00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:12,269

How would you even find a Queernecks

Discord if it wasn't for you?

:

00:58:13,229 --> 00:58:13,289

So,

:

00:58:13,289 --> 00:58:13,919

-:

Right.

:

00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:15,969

-:

I'll, I'll work on that now that I,

:

00:58:15,969 --> 00:58:18,999

now that I'm not doing anything except

for trying to find gainful employment

:

00:58:19,369 --> 00:58:22,919

I'll, I'll try to, I'll work on making

that into a space we can actually

:

00:58:22,919 --> 00:58:27,389

hang out and maybe do fun things and

then we can watch movies in there.

:

00:58:27,789 --> 00:58:32,869

Or we could have YouTube nights and like,

you know, like where we show our favorite

:

00:58:32,869 --> 00:58:34,549

YouTube videos or something like that.

:

00:58:34,949 --> 00:58:36,149

Fucking love a YouTube night

:

00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:37,849

-:

We got to show Tracy the

:

00:58:38,009 --> 00:58:38,569

goodness of the biscuit.

:

00:58:38,659 --> 00:58:39,009

Video

:

00:58:39,409 --> 00:58:40,999

-:

taste goodness.

:

00:58:42,269 --> 00:58:43,849

-:

and it's special honey sauce.

:

00:58:44,164 --> 00:58:47,001

-:

You know, the um, the Body Roll song.

:

00:58:47,361 --> 00:58:48,891

Watch out for my body roll.

:

00:58:48,981 --> 00:58:49,461

Okay.

:

00:58:49,521 --> 00:58:51,771

Like we are, we are gonna

have a YouTube night.

:

00:58:52,191 --> 00:58:55,011

Listeners comment on wherever this is.

:

00:58:55,011 --> 00:58:57,591

If it is on Spotify, you

can use the comment feature.

:

00:58:57,591 --> 00:59:00,381

If you're listening on Apple, I

don't know how the fuck that works.

:

00:59:00,631 --> 00:59:02,341

, Just send us an email at.

:

00:59:02,761 --> 00:59:03,381

mailbag@queernecks.com.

:

00:59:05,931 --> 00:59:09,771

Send me a Facebook message

or an an Instagram message.

:

00:59:10,171 --> 00:59:13,471

And, and we'll get this going and

we'll start having YouTube nights.

:

00:59:13,871 --> 00:59:14,161

-:

That

:

00:59:14,196 --> 00:59:17,266

-:

also put it in the, uh, the newsletter.

:

00:59:17,266 --> 00:59:20,846

If you subscribe to the newsletter,

we, we'll get this shit together.

:

00:59:20,906 --> 00:59:23,516

We'll, we'll turn this into

something everybody can like.

:

00:59:23,916 --> 00:59:25,896

And yeah, have a good rest of the week.

:

00:59:26,296 --> 00:59:28,036

Thank you to everybody.

:

00:59:28,036 --> 00:59:28,936

Who do we need to thank?

:

00:59:28,936 --> 00:59:29,806

We never do that.

:

00:59:30,051 --> 00:59:30,401

Thank

:

00:59:30,831 --> 00:59:31,051

-:

Uh,

:

00:59:31,451 --> 00:59:32,771

-:

you to the listeners.

:

00:59:33,171 --> 00:59:33,631

-:

for sure.

:

00:59:34,031 --> 00:59:36,261

-:

I don't know if you all know how much

:

00:59:36,261 --> 00:59:37,996

it means to us that anybody listens.

:

00:59:38,396 --> 00:59:39,366

-:

It's amazing to me.

:

00:59:39,696 --> 00:59:41,796

-:

Yeah, it really, I mean it adds

:

00:59:41,796 --> 00:59:46,066

this layer to something that's fun

already, but just actually meaningful

:

00:59:46,066 --> 00:59:47,596

now and that's fucking wild to me.

:

00:59:47,596 --> 00:59:50,426

I never thought I'd do anything

meaningful, but, um, yeah.

:

00:59:50,516 --> 00:59:53,306

We'll, we'll see y'all

out there next time.

:

00:59:53,516 --> 00:59:55,081

Be good and say hi to your mom and them.

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