In Episode # 150 of the Squeaky Bum Time Podcast, Mike and Laurent (well, not Mike) discuss the massive news of Roman Abramovich's personal sanctions and what it means for Chelsea Football Club, the UEFA Champions League results, and more:
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hello and welcome to the squeaky bum
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time podcast with mike and laurent it
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is
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friday march 11th
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and today we can only talk about chelsea
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who received a death penalty but we'll
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talk about psg blowing it we'll talk
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about scores we'll talk about games but
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first
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p chelsea
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chelsea and robin abramovic receive what
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is the equivalent of the ncaa's death
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sentence for those of you who don't know
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what that is the ncaa once gave it to
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smu for violations within the ncaa rules
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which effectively meant your school
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could no longer play or no longer be
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part of the ncaa and football but
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chelsea received the death sentence what
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does that mean why did they get it what
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does it mean for the rest of the league
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so to recap uh mike had the conversation
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with ollie uh the other day um chelsea
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are owned by roman abramovich
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roman abramovich is a russian oligarch
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whatever that means basically it means
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he made a lot of money
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with
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putin or through the auspices of putin
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or with putin's
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agreement uh he essentially bought the
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resources
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of russia as it was collapsing in the
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early 90s
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for very cheap and then was able to sell
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it later on at exorbitant prices so he
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got very rich
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by ill-begotten means and has the
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nickname of putin's wallet
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where that comes from how it got to him
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i don't know but
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essentially chelsea received the death
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sentence the uk government has listed
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him along with 25 other oligarchs
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or friends of of putin
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due to the
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uh attack in ukraine so i'm gonna read
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from my phone here roman abramovich's
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assets have been frozen by the uk
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government meaning
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he is unable to sell chelsea he could
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sell chelsea he just could not make
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money from it he has frozen assets what
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does it mean
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these are tactical things that are
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happening further ticket sales to home
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and away games from fans are prohibited
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however if you already have a season
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ticket you still may go to games no
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merchandise sales are allowed not
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necessarily true they cannot
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buy new merchandise but whatever is in
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the stores they may sell but they may
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not get new merchandise they cannot make
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any transfers because they cannot spend
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any money because they don't have any
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money their bank assets are frozen they
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cannot do any contract renewals for
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chelsea this is a big deal that means
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that antonio rudiger uh aspella quetta
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uh several women on the several players
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on the women's teams who have rolling
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contracts as i understand it as of now
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chelsea's ban on is runs through may
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31st
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and chelsea have no access to money they
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may not be able to make payroll they
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have no
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access to new cash
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all the money that roman abramovich has
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been using to fund the club has been
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frozen they cannot transact now chelsea
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does have special dispensation that
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allows essentially the club to run
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provided it's from existing deals
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so there is some sort of system where
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the players will be able to be paid
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there is some sort of stipulation where
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the team can travel so
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chelsea do have to travel to lille lille
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l i lle the french champions and we're
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going to get onto psg in a minute that
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allows them to finish up their leg
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they're up two-nil in the champions
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league and i believe they play next week
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this is a massive deal and we are in
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completely
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new
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territory
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for sports
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um we are in a place where
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i believe
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no team has ever been i don't know of a
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team
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ever being
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frozen by the government we've had in
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the nba
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a team being taken under control by the
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commissioner's office the last team i
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can remember was the
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um
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new orleans
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hornets slash pelicans
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and they voided famously the chris paul
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trade under david stern so this is new
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territory um the team was for sale roman
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abramovich seemed to know that this was
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going on he's last week he sent out a
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crisp
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cryptic message that says oh chelsea
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will be under control of the chelsea
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trust no one knew what that meant and
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the people in the chelsea trust didn't
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know that they were in that chelsea
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trust and didn't know that what that
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meant he seemed to be trying to protect
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his asset he then said later in the week
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that the team was for sale that he
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wouldn't make any money from it and that
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all the proceeds would go to ukraine and
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that
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he would not ask for any loans
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so they tried to get the sale through
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but this was all happening too fast and
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there seems to be other laws that were
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coming onto the books that the
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english government was
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grand standing for that allowed and
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pushed this through and all
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and i think the bombing of the hotel of
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the uh children's hospital of mary pole
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was the final straw for the oligarchs to
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actually get their assets seized and
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this happened for about 60 people
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and so chelsea football club are in
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limbo they have no access to funds the
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person who funds the team no longer can
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send them money they are
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under normal circumstances when someone
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has their assets taken
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you know it's a it's a factory it's a
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it's a warehouse it's a
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it's something that's just inert it's
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just there they just take it they take
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the yacht they take your house they take
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your apartment no problem but a football
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club is different
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it's a living entity it has fans
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it is a public good it is a community
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asset as they say it would be as though
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there i think the way to think about it
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is
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football clubs are as though
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someone owns a church or owns the
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congregation of a church
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yes they can charge rent or whatever and
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they are shepherding the maintenance of
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that church or you're the owner for the
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time being and you can make money but
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that that building doesn't belong to you
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in the natural sense of
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what
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we would think of as a normal asset
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because
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there are millions of fans and millions
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of supporters that support chelsea
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football club they didn't have a choice
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in who their owner was they didn't
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control it and so
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it's a delicate situation that the
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government has gotten themselves into
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and they've opened themselves up to any
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number of things
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um
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i
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am torn
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i am torn
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uh what do i think about this right what
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do i think is happening
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i am torn
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because this is a dangerous
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precedent to set now these are
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mitigating circumstances we have putin
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invading ukraine we have uh abramovich's
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direct ties
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to putin there was an investigation
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within the last 10 years or five years
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that said they weren't direct or what
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have you i think it's pretty clear i
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don't think if if if chelsea fans really
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can search their heart they know that
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abramovic got that money through
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ill-begotten means
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did he have someone killed is he a
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murderer i don't know whatever the case
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is
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he's on the list
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i don't
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i don't like the idea of guilt by
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association
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i know why it's being done i understand
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the pressure but
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the chelsea fans and supporters
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are not
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russian citizens this isn't
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something along those lines these are
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british citizens or english citizens or
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fans around the world who because their
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owner
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is associated with the president of a
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sovereign nation
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their team
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may
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collapse
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in the short term i i chelsea are big
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enough brand
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uh i think that they can weather this i
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i don't think they're in danger of being
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relegated or whatever or or being in
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trouble but how long do they have to go
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through this i think it's super fluid
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and i'm torn
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because
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there's a lot of hypocrisy
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um we've just seen
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the saudi wealth fund the pif by
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newcastle not exactly good people
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i will raise my hand and say listen
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manchester city are owned by sheikh
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mansour of the emirates and abu dhabi
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it's their culture they're doing their
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own things i'm sure there are terrible
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things that sheikh mansour has done in
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the name of his country
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is he funding the houthis in in the
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emirates is he
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funding um uh osama bin laden's former
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fighters i don't know
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we can assume
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that if a country is one of the oil
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states
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that
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there's a loose morality
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that doesn't feel good to deal with
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um
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and we can do that with a lot of very
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very wealthy people they are wealthy
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especially at the multiples when you're
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in the multiple billions of dollars
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they're wealthy
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because
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they see the world a certain way and
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they are ruthless in a it does it
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doesn't mean they're killers i'm not
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saying they're murderers i just find
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this pandora's box of
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taking teams from owners to be worrisome
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i don't know if it's wrong in this case
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i just don't know
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when we're gonna pull this out and use
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it for
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nefarious
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or unusual means
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um sometimes
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where you don't think of second and
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third consequences so you know we should
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be asking ourselves okay
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chelsea's been taking away from roman
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abramovich and then what
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okay this team gets sold but he can't
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get the money okay and then what who
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gets the team who benefits it do we have
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to do this more often what about other
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teams whenever whenever there's a war
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and a country's associated owner is
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connected to it do we then have to take
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the team away because that would mean
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that the sovereign wealth fund of saudi
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arabia and newcastle should have their
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taken team taken away because they're
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forcibly starving the
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the the yemenites in their civil war
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are we going to do that
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is that something we want to think about
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is that something we want to be in
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charge of
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a lot of fan groups
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and
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your your pie in the sky folks are now
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oh we need to go to the german one
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percent ownership this is what this is
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what the premier league has wrought with
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its billionaire owners
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that might be true
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that might be true
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there's other ways to fund teams
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there's other ways to handle football
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or
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the premier league just keeps on going
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on the way it is
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these
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things we
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we want to stick to sports as often as
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possible
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but
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society is reflected in sport
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and there are oligarchs that own teams
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and
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there are labor relations you know we
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just found that out with baseball
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they're all these things that are
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involved in base in football and the
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world i don't know what to do but watch
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this space
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chelsea are one of the big six
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teams
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they're one of the big brands in the
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world um chelsea fans love roman
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abramovich they have
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been singing his names at the games
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um
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and i don't blame them for it
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i really don't they love their team
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he has shown that he cares about winning
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which is all you can ask for
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and since:13:18
of the team chelsea have won the most
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trophies in england and that's a fact
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and chelsea fans can hold on to those
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moments
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they just won the champions league they
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just won the club world cup
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they have mourinho
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they have championships under ancelotti
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they have uefa cup under
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under rafa benitez they have the famous
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siege against the greatest team that
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anyone has ever seen they beat barcelona
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in the champions league
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in the biggest rear guard action you'll
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ever see:13:56
hood stood and
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withstood another attack from bayern
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munich and won the champions league that
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season as well
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kante won a league with them mourinho
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came back
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it was against liverpool that the slip
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happened
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it was against chelsea that the world
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famous gerard slip at anfield happens
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and and mourinho reveled in it chelsea
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are there they're part of the fabric of
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the premier league and the fans get to
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revel in those moments and
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abramovich has been the funding of that
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and i
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people hate him he's controversial did
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they dope the league did they break the
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wage structure all these things might be
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true and i don't know the answers to it
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but
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the premier league will never be the
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same it has now been irrevocably changed
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by the events in ukraine and i expect
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more changes more changes to happen i
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think that
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these financial crises
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that are hitting the premier league
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and the financial crises of inflation
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and the financial crises of covid and
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the financial crises of a war in europe
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are gonna change football and this is
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probably just the first step but
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let us get to the football this was the
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champions league week
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we had bayern munich defeating red b red
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bull softsburg 8-2 on aggregate uh i
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guess salzburg weren't ready they did
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they did go into the tie 1-1 but
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lewandowski and bayern munich just
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decide off we're taking you out uh
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uh
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uh lewandowski with a hat trick
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liverpool lose but go through 2-1 on
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aggregate they lost at home
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in anfield
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wow and wow loltaro with the screamer
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and then uh alexis sanchez sent off for
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an orange card unfortunate i think enter
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could have got that liverpool live again
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the ghost of anfield carry them through
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man city win 5-0 on aggregate they play
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a drab nail nil draw the only thing that
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anyone can say about this game is 42
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year old goalkeeper scott carson got to
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play
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and uh some of the kids got to play but
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the drama drama drama came from the real
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mcgridd psg game
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psg up one nil going into the game
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score a goal from mbappe early they're
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up two nil on aggregate in the game
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bape scores two other goals that are
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offside
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psg are cruising
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psg have this thing in hand
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in the second half
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there is a
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bump in the 61st minute
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donnarumma tries to play the ball he is
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not known to be a good keeper for
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playing the ball but he has a
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euro winning goalkeeper he won on
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penalties
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he
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gets bumped off the ball by benzema
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it's a arguable foul
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and from that moment and they score a
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goal goes to venetia's goes back to
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benzema benzema puts it in
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and from that moment on from the 61st
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minute on
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psg collapse
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again
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this is now
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the fifth or sixth year in a row that
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psg have collapsed in not in a row they
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had they made it to the final against
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bayern munich and probably could have
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won that one they made it to the
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semi-final against city and city put
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them out uh in in the snow game they
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were so much better city in that game
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but they have the ramantata where they
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were down they gave up three goals in
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the 87th minute on uh they have just a
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poor poor history and psg's narrative
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continues mike this is just for you
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in football
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because
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there is not free agency because
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there is not mass there is mass movement
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of players but
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teams get stamped with an ethos
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um
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and those narratives live on and
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unfortunately
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you know spurs
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for mike have the concept of spursy
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which is the idea that they they they
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blow it in the end
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and psg have now
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mostly in the champions league picked up
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that
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moniker as well as a team that
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can't find a way to win whereas real
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madrid on the other side are a team that
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have
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the will to win they're warriors they
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have the aged
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battle scars of cruz and
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modric and modric at 36 years old just
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completely
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took over this game from the midfield
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benzema scored in the 76 in the 78th
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minute and psg collapsed they were like
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just gone they couldn't pick their heads
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back up they couldn't get themselves
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back together
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um
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the narrative of this game is
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not one of tactics or not one of
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not one of two teams raising their
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levels but
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of a team
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getting punched in the mouth
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and being unable to recover football
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is
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a wonderful sport
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and there are a couple reasons why it is
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i mean we've talked about it a million
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times
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but
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the
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continuous flow
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and lack of timeouts and lack of
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stoppages and really no way to control a
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crowd when it decides to pick up its
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team like what happened at the bernabeu
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in madrid
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against psg the players in the moment
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have to
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as a group
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find a way to pick themselves back up
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and that doesn't happen
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often teams
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only have so many moments to test
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themselves to get up off the mat
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and sometimes
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the team's history
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ethos ghosts
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uh whatever the case is
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does lift them and for real madrid it is
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a
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we're the 13 time champions of europe
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we're at home we're in a building where
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di stefano where ronaldo where raul
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where the ghost of every real madrid
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champion lives this is our league we're
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royale madrid we are spain we are
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football we are royalty
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regardless of the players it's expected
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for us to pick ourselves off the mat
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react to our crowd
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and go win games and that's exactly what
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real did they found the heart of a
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champion
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it it is
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classic
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it is
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narrative busting but it is there when
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you you watch the game you can feel it i
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i i
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it sounds trite and it sounds cheap and
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it sounds easy but in football
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we have those moments
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and what we have in psg is
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a nouveau riche
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a
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ill-begotten gains team a team that
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is less than the sum of its parts a team
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that's not connected to each other a
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team that doesn't play as a unit a team
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that
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thinks that it can
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get the greatest player of a generation
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on it and that makes it better
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when in fact it doesn't
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teams need to suffer together teams need
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to fight together um
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and and psg have found have
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been unfortunately regardless of coach
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from la juan blanc
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to
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pochettino to tuco
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to ancelotti
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they've all been unable to lift this
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team and and
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bound a unit together because
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the players
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on the team know they can go around and
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go to the owner and so the structure of
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the team doesn't allow for the manager
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or the leader to lead his team and so
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you see these disjointed performances
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where they get punched in the mouth and
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they go down
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and you know it was not an imbape uh
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thing but this was the end of mbappe at
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psg he will leave
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he will go to real madrid he will play
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with benzema and the legend and the
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power of the royalty of
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of of football will live on
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the whites the blancos
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the madristas
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will carry on and they're not going to
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win the champions league real madrid is
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not good enough to win the champions
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league they will lose
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to a team that also plays as a unit
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it will be
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bayern it will be liverpool it will be
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city who can defeat
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this grizzled lion of a team
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that is real madrid i would expect them
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to go out but they take a big scalp
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and
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you know for the
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for the royalty of football they
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continue liverpool goes through bayern
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munich goes through
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uh next week we'll see
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men united and atletico and juventus and
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chelsea
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and iax
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try and get through
23:30
iax having the toughest road with a 2-2
23:33
aggregate
23:39
so we see this the the royalty of
23:41
football come through
23:43
and it's very odd
23:45
because
23:46
it does
23:47
match
23:49
status of the club i don't know how it
23:52
works i don't know why it works but it's
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one of the things that makes me love
23:56
football and it's one of the things that
23:58
even though city are through
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i know they don't have it
24:02
i know they don't have the glory i know
24:05
they don't have the um
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the history behind them
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but we're trying to make our history
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and um
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we made it to the final last year the
24:14
less spoken about the nil nil the better
24:16
but from my perspective with city
24:20
we keep fighting and we have to fight
24:22
against the ghosts of of glory and make
24:25
our own glory and it makes it really
24:27
really really hard um it doesn't
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mean that manchester city don't have
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history
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y've been in manchester since:24:35
they've been champions today part of the
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history of english football
24:39
but they're a local club
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and the people from manchester who love
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the team
24:44
feel insulted that they're they're told
24:46
that they don't have history we have our
24:48
own history we have 99 in the league one
24:50
getting up but
24:52
on the international stage city don't
24:53
have history and that's okay we're gonna
24:56
take united's history united play next
24:58
week against atletico
25:02
but we carry on i i got sidetracked
25:04
normally i just go through the scores
25:05
but i got moved by the champions league
25:09
we also had
25:12
premier league games today out of a blue
25:14
a lot of teams to a lot of games to make
25:16
up
25:20
we had wolves defeat watford 4 nil
25:23
watford still in the bottom three still
25:25
not really going anywhere norwich also
25:28
lose to chelsea chelsea in the face of
25:31
finding out their team
25:33
could collapse we don't know what will
25:35
happen but they win 3-1
25:37
um the fans still chanting bromage's
25:40
name
25:41
goals two goals for havarts uh and a
25:43
goal from chalaba
25:45
newcastle continue their run they're now
25:48
14th in the league they defeat
25:49
southampton i just watched the
25:50
highlights of this southampton were hard
25:52
done they were really really good and
25:54
should have gotten something out of the
25:56
game and leads under jesse march
25:58
give up three more goals
26:00
to the rampant aston villa um
26:05
mcginn's back
26:06
uh coutinho was on the ball in this game
26:09
so aston villa are up to ninth
26:14
and leads have not dropped into the
26:16
bottom three yet but they are getting
26:19
awfully awfully close
26:21
it's getting near
26:22
more than squeaky bum time for them
26:28
as i look through this
26:30
leads just four shots on target
26:33
they have 50 possession but that's just
26:35
not enough
26:36
um
26:38
not a great performance for them
26:40
goals from coutinho calum chambers with
26:43
a worldly also matty cash with a worldy
26:45
so getting two goals from defense for
26:48
for villa and um
26:50
um
26:52
steve gerard has his team
26:55
rolling
26:57
his team
26:58
rolling i'm at the half hour mark nearly
27:01
and i'm starting to get tired and not
27:02
have much to talk about mike and i
27:04
always bring up the fact that whenever
27:05
we do the show solo it gets really hard
27:08
to um to find more than a half hour
27:12
to talk about and when we do the show
27:13
together we get to about an hour so it's
27:15
pretty funny that between the two of us
27:17
we talk for about a half an hour but
27:19
let's go through let's go through the
27:21
the weekends games coming up
27:23
we have
27:25
brighton liverpool
27:26
burnley brentford and the six pointer
27:28
the mighty spurs versus van united but
27:30
then the whole the whole schedule is on
27:32
sunday all at 2 p.m chelsea newcastle
27:35
that count that game gets really tough
27:37
now that'll be the first test for
27:39
newcastle southampton versus watford
27:41
watford should go down west ham villain
27:43
the battle of claret and blues that
27:45
should be a good game as well i really
27:46
love what gerard's doing uh everton
27:48
wolves everton need a win desperately
27:51
they could be in trouble leeds vs
27:53
norwich six pointer there and then to
27:55
end the week we have arsenal versus
27:57
leicester city uh all the top four still
28:01
up for grabs let's go through that as
28:03
well city with the six point lead over
28:06
liverpool who have a game in hand
28:08
uh we don't know what's gonna happen
28:10
there this will all be decided on april
28:12
10th chelsea are in third but we don't
28:16
know if they'll be able to circle the
28:18
wagons on what's going on with them are
28:20
they going to be able to make payroll
28:21
are players going to be looking for a
28:22
way out uh jamie carragher has always
28:25
talked already talking about thomas
28:26
tsukel leaving and taking the man united
28:28
job i mean they're gonna pick the bone
28:31
if chelsea have an economic problem they
28:34
will be picked clean of their players
28:36
the first one to go to will be ruediger
28:38
he'll go to united
28:40
united in fifth west ham and sixth uh
28:44
followed by spurs who have two games in
28:46
hand on 45. there we have our our spice
28:50
boy crew in the middle of the pack there
28:52
basically from 14 to nine they're all
28:55
kind of in the same spot but new castle
28:57
are pushing to break into the party and
29:00
brighton are sitting there uh wishing
29:02
they never sold dan burn and then the
29:04
bottom four
29:07
leads everton burnley watford norwich
29:12
between burnley everton and leeds
29:16
one of them is gonna go down
29:18
um
29:20
burnley look strong
29:22
on paper
29:23
everton are too big of a club leads look
29:26
like the one to fall into that group
29:29
they have burnley have two games in hand
29:31
but only and and leads only have a
29:33
two-point lead i don't trust jesse march
29:36
i do
29:37
trust daish
29:38
uh it you could see leads going down
29:42
if they don't right the ship uh the last
29:44
performance was good against leicester
29:46
and they were hard done not to get a
29:48
result but today's was worse
29:51
and leeds
29:53
giving up goals for fun they have a face
29:56
a must-win against norwich or they are
30:01
in a lot of
30:03
trouble
30:10
i do want to
30:14
take a moment
30:15
to um
30:16
acknowledge how little
30:18
sport means
30:20
it's the least important thing that
30:21
means everything uh this time you know
30:24
we have this chelsea issue
30:27
but why are we having that issue because
30:28
there's a war
30:30
in the ukraine
30:32
that was
30:34
caused by russia whatever they invaded a
30:36
sovereign nation
30:38
whatever the reasons whatever side
30:39
you're on people are dying my friends
30:42
uh in the ukraine i actually have
30:44
friends there
30:45
marina
30:47
pavlo
30:48
misha
30:51
alexi
30:52
that i work with i think about them
30:54
every day
30:56
i hope they're okay and their families
30:58
are okay
30:59
and i hope that um
31:01
they're finding stupid things to do to
31:04
make them happy um and hopefully you
31:07
know this this thing ends uh it's gonna
31:09
affect football it already has russia
31:11
has been completely kicked out of the
31:13
world cup
31:14
uh ukraine have postponed their fifa
31:17
games to um
31:20
to join
31:23
uh they have a playoff game against
31:24
scotland i would like to see fifa just
31:27
be like you know what ukraine
31:29
we're just gonna put a extra
31:30
team in you're in the world cup it's
31:32
those sorts of things that
31:34
are so little
31:36
that can be done
31:38
that could give a country so much hope
31:41
and i wonder if they if if fifa would do
31:44
that i don't think it damages the
31:46
integrity of the thing you think you
31:48
know i don't know
31:49
so you have an extra two teams
31:51
you let you let scotland and ukraine in
31:53
so what
31:55
i don't know
31:58
i know football doesn't want to be
32:00
political but
32:02
everything is political now everything
32:04
means something
32:05
so why not use the power of football the
32:08
power of sport
32:09
to
32:11
lift up a country's hopes
32:13
and just put them in the world cup who
32:15
cares whether they made it or not or
32:17
you know let them play out all their
32:19
moments see if they make it on merit
32:22
and then
32:23
just make a special
32:27
ask ask if a team will sacrifice their
32:29
spot or or make an extra spot or do
32:32
something i don't know the right answer
32:35
make there be a group with an extra team
32:37
so what it's just football it doesn't
32:39
mean anything
32:40
it's just football they're not going to
32:42
win the world cup but if they can have
32:45
their moment in qatar
32:47
for the ukrainian team
32:49
that would probably mean everything to
32:51
them
32:52
they have something to cheer for
32:58
now again did does that
33:00
open a pandora's box again does that
33:02
make me a racist because i didn't say oh
33:05
palestine should have a team or yemen
33:07
should be able to make the caf uh
33:10
championship yeah maybe
33:11
maybe
33:16
but
33:17
you know
33:18
i don't care
33:20
just living in my feelings right now
33:23
and just uh hoping that
33:26
we have peace
33:27
and that um
33:29
that peace comes quickly
33:32
and i hope there's peace for the chelsea
33:34
fans i don't want them to lose their
33:35
team
33:37
i don't want chelsea to collapse just
33:39
because
33:40
roman abramovich
33:42
is a man who was greedy and made friends
33:44
with the wrong guy
33:46
when he was in his 40s
33:48
is he a murderer i don't know
33:51
i certainly hope not
33:54
did he
33:55
steal from russian people probably
33:59
does that mean that every chelsea fan
34:01
should suffer
34:03
i don't know probably not
34:07
because i certainly don't
34:09
i certainly wouldn't want
34:11
manchester city taken away
34:13
or dropped from the premier league
34:15
because of something shake monsoor did
34:17
or
34:17
or um
34:18
the cronkies are found out to be mass
34:21
murderers and and arsenal be taken away
34:24
or or fsg and john henry we find out
34:27
that he's a
34:28
sacrilegious you know pedophile
34:31
ring and liverpool be taken away or or
34:34
hey the sullivan and gold were
34:36
uh porn settlers and they still own west
34:39
ham
34:41
you know
34:42
what
34:43
what's the morality is i guess war and
34:45
bombing hospitals is the morality but he
34:48
didn't do it it's not putin doesn't own
34:50
chelsea a friend of putin owns chelsea
34:52
how far do we go
34:55
if i'm his hairdresser am i the guy who
34:57
takes pictures of him on horseback do i
35:00
lose my team i don't know i'm asking
35:02
questions i mean it's uh it's one of
35:04
these difficult things you know we talk
35:06
about football we talk about uh amazing
35:08
goals um
35:10
did i leave out new i did i left out um
35:14
i left out newcastle over southampton
35:16
today
35:17
really good goal in that game
35:27
i don't know okay
35:28
that i'm gonna wrap it up
35:31
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35:34
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