we sit down with Terrie Christine, an intuitive energy healer and motivational speaker, as she shares her profound journey from a corporate world to the spiritual realm. Terrie opens up about her childhood accident that led to an epiphany and her transformation into a master manifester. She describes the life-changing experiences and the spiritual encounters that shaped her path. Listen in as she dives deep into the stories of hardship, resilience, and self-discovery, providing valuable insights and tools that can empower anyone to overcome their struggles and manifest their true potential. This is more than an interview; it's an enlightening conversation about the boundless potential of the human spirit.

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I kept hearing the N O word, but in my head I was repeating K, N o W. So I wasn't allowing myself as a child to be put off by that N O word. I was saying to myself, I can figure this out. I'm going to get it.

And then I would just sit in my room and visualize that I could have a new pair of pants or a new dress and a neighbor would give it to me, or the church family gave it to me, or I got so many things that I mom started telling people, stop giving it to me. Hey, you.

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Samantha and Melissa.

Welcome back to season Season three.

What?

Episode one Season three. I think so.

I know, it's amazing.

It's so fun. You know, we have grown so much and I just love that there is like a.

There's like a reason and there's like a path and a purpose and a direction and it's just grown into this whole thing.

It has been amazing and I'm so happy to be on this journey. Maybe we do a little life catch.

Up instead of a fail. Yeah. Yeah. We were just on break.

Yep. So spring break. Just kidding, Melissa.

It's not even spring break yet.

Catch up. What did we do on our break? We recorded a fuck ton.

Yeah, we did. I don't know if you saw our. Our lineup of guests for this season, but we met with all of them on our break. We even traveled to one.

We went to dc.

I feel like we traveled more than dc but maybe we didn' it.

We imagined that we wanted to.

Yeah, I guess maybe why I feel it that way is that we did do like some in person. We did.

You had to go to Atlanta. I missed that one.

And then we both went to the yoga.

Oh, that's true. Okay. So we did some out and about.

We did, yeah. Which was like one of your original, like.

Oh, I really wanted to do that.

So that's been nice.

It was awesome. So, yeah, we definitely went to a goat yoga farm that's going to be coming up in May. In May. Oh, yeah. Sam is so good.

She's got the whole thing planned out for you guys. It's gonna be awesome.

Which makes it great because then you really can know what is coming, who is coming, and so you can mark your calendars for the one episode or you know, hopefully all of them that you really want to hear.

Yeah. What is coming? Who is coming? Come with us.

That sounded wildly inappropriate, Melissa.

Oh, I didn't mean that kind, but, you know.

Well, guys, we're back.

So. So, yeah, what. Tell us, what did you do on your break besides the recording, like, when it was just you and your family?

My free time. So we took. I had never been on a cruise before, and we decided to book a cruise. We took the big kids.

We left the baby at home since it was my first one, so that I can enjoy it too.

The.

So the crew stopped at Grand Turk.

Never mind.

And Dominican Republic.

And Grand Turk was awesome because the kids, like, really got to experience what we usually experience when we go out of town, as opposed to just, you know, being in a tourist, Touristy area. We were able to get off the ship and we immediately got a golf cart and we just went the total opposite of all the touristy stuff.

And we showed the kids, like, what life is like on. On a different island in a different side of the world. And not different side of the world, this being dramatic.

But that was really cool because we took them to an isolated beach where, you know, tourists don't go. And per usual when Simon and I do this, we ran into a local. He was out spear fishing.

What?

Yeah. And so. And he was so nice. He just came over and talked to us and the kids and he was like, yeah, I'm spearfishing for my dinner. Like, this is how I.

How I catch, how I get my food. And then he was like, have you guys seen a conch before? And he dove down into like, the middle of this, like, canal that we were in channel.

And literally brought up an armful of these giant conchs. And he goes, these ones are alive. And you can see. And he was like. And there's so many different. Like, you could eat them right now.

And I was like, we're not going to eat that right now. We're not going to do that. Right?

Like raw.

Yeah, like live, like, just. I guess there's a way to like, crack it out while it's alive and eat it raw. And I was like, yeah, we're good. We'll pass on that.

But it was so cool that he, you know, brought it up. The kids could see that because on this beach, like, it's not. I don't. It's not written on anything that we saw material wise.

But like, that beach, like, conks conjugate.

I did conjugate.

Conjugate, conjugate.

Is that where they go and make their babies?

Sure.

Congregate.

Congregate. You know what I mean? So they're.

Their conjugal visits are planned for now. You see, it's for the.

It's. It's for the meme cops.

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

The ones that pinch you.

Yeah.

But there's like whole empty conch shells all over that beach and like whole shells all over that beach. And we weren't expecting that.

Like, I. Okay, I actually will tell you, I didn't even know that a conch was an actual creature. I literally just thought it was a kind of a shell.

That's how naive I was.

I want to say I at one point thought that, but when Simon and I went to Roatan, I saw a live one. We thought it was a shell, and we learned very quickly when we took it to the room that it was an animal.

Oh, no. So wait, are they like little crabs or whatever?

Yeah, they look like crabs.

Yeah.

And they live in these giant conch shells. The other thing that was so cool is when we started walking down the beach, I did not expect or know that we had the chance of seeing flamingos.

And so we're walking along the beach in this flock of flamingos land in the water, like several feet in front of us. Yes. And Emelia was just in awe. Do you have a picture?

Because my d. Our number one fan, loves flamingos.

I do.

And actually there's two photos of the flamingos that I got and they're out focus. But it just. It makes me want to paint.

Like, they just look so magical and so beautiful and it makes me just want to get a paintbrush and start, like, water painting.

Wow.

Yeah. I love it.

I want to see that painting.

I. No one wants to see the painting, but I will share the photo and you guys can see that.

And then we stopped at Dominican Republic where we got the kids to swim with dolphins.

That's amazing. Yeah, I've never done that either. I.

It was really cool. I know a lot of people wait, you know, a long, long time to get to see dolphins and swim dolphins.

I hadn't seen the 13 year old, like, smile that big. He was cheese.

It.

Loved it. He was hugging the dolphins and it was kissing him.

Oh, that's so sweet.

Yeah, he loved it. But yeah, so. And I also started a new study. I started studying rtt.

Ooh, I'm so excited. Which you guys on me.

We probably can't say that in the public.

Oh, I don't know. Aren't you have. Don't you have to get people to practice on?

I don't know. I'm not there yet.

Not friends. Okay. And you guys haven't got the ethical.

And you guys haven't heard of this episode yet of where this came from that I decided, like, oh, I'm gonna study this, and this is gonna be a career path that I think I'm gonna humor that also comes out in May. So.

That is amazing.

Yeah.

Exciting. I'm so proud of you.

Thank you.

Wow. So my life isn't as exciting in that way, but it's.

Oh, it's exciting.

It's had a lot of ups and upendedness. I guess you could say. Things in my life are changing right now. I would say I'm going through the process of a divorce.

I don't really have much to say about it for now, but we'll probably talk about it later. It's all pretty kind of. Kind of tender and fresh, but, you know, doesn't make you a failure at life. It doesn't sometimes try to tell myself that.

Better for your health. Insane. Just like we learned in an interview that we had, like, not too long ago where, I mean, the example was, like, staying together.

Just because you have kids doesn't mean it's, like, a healthy relationship. And, like, just staying because you feel like, oh, we're married. That's not healthy.

No, you're right. You're right. So, yeah, there's just been a lot of things going on. I did get my car totaled.

I think you probably heard about that because it did happen near the end of last season because. Oh, yeah. Oh. Actually, it kind of happened in the middle of recording for this season.

Yeah.

So if you missed the vital episode.

That is where that episode was amazing. And I'm so mad at myself because I wish I still can, I guess, go onto our Facebook page and be like, whoa.

If you guys didn't hear my one and only amazing co host interviewing Vital. Like, that was such a good episode.

She made it amazing.

Oh, you both did. It was awesome.

So, yeah.

But I think because of that, I. Of the car being totaled, I had to miss that episode. I was so upset. But it couldn't have been done better.

And you guys were safe and you have a new car. Yep.

Have a new car, have a new life.

Working on that, but I'm excited. I'm excited.

Well, thank you.

I think it's been a long time coming. I probably shouldn't say that, but it's.

It's been a long time Coming. I just didn't want to admit it.

Yeah.

So. Well, yeah.

I'm excited to see what comes for you next. And we're all here to support you.

I know. And that's where I have to admit, like, there's not a single part of me that feels. Hasn't felt love from sometimes just new people every day.

People that I know are in my life and I know love me, but people are just coming out of the woodworks. So I'm very grateful to everyone.

Good.

Yeah.

Did you guys notice the album change and our new logo?

It's so pretty.

I hope you guys love it and we really will post a post. Post a post. Okay. That was maybe okay.

She's like, maybe it wasn't as funny as I thought. No, it was great.

I didn't intentionally say that. It just came out and I was like, whoa, is that. That sounds stupid. But maybe I will make a. Our cover change.

But if you look at it, I wonder if you guys picked up on the hidden images in it. A lot of hidden meanings and with the meanings.

Correct.

And I'm wondering, we're wondering if you guys can kind of pinpoint all the hidden images and what they might mean.

Yeah.

Because there is a purpose.

Yeah. Actually. So I'm just gonna say Sam designed it and it is beautiful.

Oh, I love it.

I feel like it's perfect.

It took lots of anger and trial and error and frustration.

Well.

And I feel like it's still Lottie. Like it's still our girl. Right. And it's us. It's everything.

I feel like it makes her real.

Exactly.

Yeah. And just like the expression on her face, like you feel that expression.

Mischievous and curious, but also like loving life. Yes. Like non judgmental, just pure.

And it's so weird that you get that out of the image. I'm proud of it.

Yeah, I love it so much.

As you heard, we have already pre recorded pretty much all of this season. But it is time for you to listen to what we have for you today. And that is Terri Christine. She has many, many titles and many, many specialties.

One thing that we forgot to mention in this episode that you're about to hear is that she also has premiered on TV. She has been on love and marriage in D.C. where she was on several episodes. So some of you may already know who she is. Here's Terri.

Today. I'm really excited because we have with us Terri Christine.

She is an intuitive energy healer, also a motivational speaker, and has written a book called the Secret Power of you and so we're really excited and lucky to have you with us today.

Thank you, Honor.

So where are we? We are.

Oh, my God.

And we're in Washington, D.C. visiting with you.

So you're actually in Bethesda, Maryland, which is the outskirts of D.C. there's been.

One other trip that we've been on, and, yeah, so far. And I just want to say, like, you should feel special if you don't, because Sam saw something, and it was like, we have to meet her within.

Like, five minutes of our conversation, wasn't it? That I was like, I'm sorry. I'm trying to not be crazy, but, like, I think we need to come to you. And you're like, oh, no, that's normal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we're really.

We're really grateful for you to have us here.

Oh, well, thank you. I'm very honored that you said yes, number one, to put me on your podcast. And I'm very humbled to be a part of your success. So thank you.

Absolutely.

We have her book, the Secret Power of you. It's right here. And honestly, I think we're excited to read through this. What started or what stemmed this book?

So, you know, when I first started moving into intuitive healing, I actually was corporate, 100% corporate. And then I had a spiritual epiphany that we can talk about, but I do everything all in.

And so when I realized that a book is an extension of the calling card, that I knew I had to write my story. And also, there are tips and tricks that I provide to my clients.

So besides just doing a session, they're gonna walk away with tangible things that they can use in their life to help change the things that they're feeling, they're struggling with. And I put a lot of the tips and tricks in the book. Oh, wow. Because they're really simple, yet very profound. To help you, I.

I label these things tools for success. So that book is a tool for success. Wow.

So this is not a memoir. This is more of a tool.

That's right. So it'll start with my story and what catapulted me. And then also it'll talk about certain things, about, you know, are you watering dead flowers?

Meaning staying with relationships that no longer serve you or, you know, and. And how you can see it and how you can get out of it.

Now, I keep laughing because when I was just flipping through pages, and the first thing I open is chapter six, it says, fearlessness releases your forward desires. And then I had to chuckle because is that not what we just spent a lot of time talking about.

Yeah.

So I thought that was really funny.

Yeah.

So what did we just do for our listeners?

Yeah. So Terri offered to do a energy healing session.

Yes.

On me.

Yeah.

And so we started off with that. And I want to get into that.

But for those who haven't already gotten to know you, can you kind of introduce our listeners to, like, your whole story, starting from your accident and.

Okay. Yeah, if we can go, we can dive deep.

Let's do it.

Do it. It's on your website.

Yes, yes. We're starting. Yes, yes. So when I was eight years old, I was hit by a car. I had a lacerated liver.

Bruce Spleen, dislocated left arm, and I broke my jaw. But it was pretty serious. It was the condyles, the balls that actually open and close both of them. And so back then. I'm not a spring chicken.

I'd like to say I'm 39 again. But back then no one knew what they could do for me. So they wired my jaw shut, and then it was frozen shut. You've heard frozen shoulder.

Well, so was my jaw. And being able to eat with a spoon, the spoon, the curvature is not that much. I could not get it into my mouth.

So I lived like that between the age of 8 and 14. Wow. Yeah, just like that. So everything was through a straw. And that's how I ate. And so then there was this amazing couple. So I'm a master manifester.

I manifest ice out of the sky. And my brother ended up meeting this older couple, almost like grandparents. They were so kind and sweet and started taking my brother to church.

And then they found out he had sisters and started taking my brother, or my. Excuse me, my sisters, myself and my sister with him to church. And then over time, they started. Started learning about our hardships.

And, you know, we were. We had teenage parents and all the lack we had, it was. It was tough. It's a very tough life.

And so when they found out that I had this car accident and then I was struggling to eat, they could see I could hardly open my mouth. Then they revealed to my mom that their son was a dentist. Oh. And a special dentist in Florida.

And that there is a program in Florida for children that have severe problems that they would offer the surgery, the treatment for free. Oh, wow. So we end up moving to Florida.

Manifested that.

I know.

Did you manifest that at such a young age?

Yes, I. Girl, I manifested some of the moment I came into this body.

I manifested this gorgeous body too.

Yes, and so I ended up going to Florida and having the surgery which allowed me to start eating again. They actually drilled two plastic pieces into my jaw to lift the condyles so that I could actually open and close my mouth. And so.

And then to this day, I'm still going through major dental work because my jaw became unaligned. And. Yeah, so then there, you know, they took two years, two and a half years to realign it. Now I'm going through some other stuff right now.

It's taken about four years to get me. I'm. I'm very special. So from there, we ended up living in Florida for a while.

And, you know, lots of things that children shouldn't have to go through, I went through along with my sister and brother. And I ended up coming back to my dad in Maryland, in Baltimore, actually, because that's where I'm from. And then he ended up remarrying and then.

Then staying with them and, and graduating high school and then deciding that at 17, out of high school, that I was gonna live on my own. Oh, at 17, yes.

I. It's like emancipation, you know, it was.

More about that there were so many rules that I didn't want to have to abide by. Meaning, you know, you could only take a shower at night, you could only be on the phone for 15 minutes, you could only be. And you have to work too.

And I'm thinking, well, if I. Then I'd rather be living on my own and have my own set of roles. So I moved out when I was 17. And so my family.

And I was very close to my grandparents, which were on my dad's side, so my paternal grandparents, very close to them. But, you know, old school, that if you want to buy something, you have to have money in the bank, no credit cards, everything you want to buy.

And so I remember I bought a brand new car because everything we would buy used up until a certain point. But I was about 24 and I decided I didn't want to live like that anymore. So I bought a brand new car. It was BMW convertible.

So I went all out and I remember I parked it on the side of my grandparents. And I'm trying not to cry for this story because it's just gut wrenching when I remember it. But I parted from the side and I wanted to share.

My grandfather, I was so close to him. Just wanted to show you. I just want to. I want to surprise him that I really worked hard and got this car.

Be proud of me.

I. That's what I Wanted. And he was standing at the door, and he goes, where's your car? And I said, it's right. Right around the corner. Where? Where?

I said, come with me, Grandpa. So we're walking down the sidewalk and he goes, where's your car? I don't see it. And I said, it's parked under the tree. That's my BMW.

And he looked at me and he said, who do you think you are? It was gut wrenching to think the man that you want to be so proud of, you said that. It was like my soul shattered in that very moment.

In that very moment. And then instead of it dragging me down, it catapulted me. Yeah. I said, oh, no. So I bid him farewell. And I didn't talk to him much after that.

And I found myself always working two jobs. Because if you wanna buy something new, you have to have money in the bank. And do you see, I'm telling you these things for what was put upon me.

You know, the childhood stuff of you gotta work hard until you bleed, you know, who do you think you are by being able to get ahead, things like that. So here I am, still living all of those things that were put upon me, just like you are, just like all the listeners, living what was put upon me.

And my soul was saying, no, why does it have to be like this? Why can't it be different? And so when I moved into, you know, my 30s, I'm still working two jobs. 40s, I'm still working two Jobs.

And then I attracted the father of my children and things. We were together 14 years. But I am a complete giver. And I kept giving and giving and giving. And I always felt that if you give, you'll receive.

And I poured into him, poured into him, poured into him endlessly thinking if he would only see how I love him so much, he would only know that it's safe and, you know, and everything he ever wanted is all within me. And then when we had two children together and it didn't turn into that, it was doing the opposite effect. So the more I gave, the more he took.

And so then it became where he was controlling everything. And I couldn't figure out why it was happening to the point where right before I left, he was controlling what I wore, where we went.

It was pretty extreme.

Wow.

It was very extreme. And so over all those years of pouring in so much love, thinking, you know, what? Is this really what love is about? Because if it is, I'm out.

Yeah, I don't want to be here like Physically don't want to be here. And I figured, well, my kids are going to be okay. Their dad's here. I don't need to be here.

So that last year of that relationship, I cried every night, like gut wrenching crying to the point where my 12 year old Samantha, my, my oldest came to me and I was laying on my side and I was facing the, the closet and I was just, oh my God, it was just so gut wrenching. And she came over and she was rubbing my leg and she says, mommy, don't cry anymore. And I'm like, oh, there's another shatter, right?

Your soul just goes, what the hell?

Yeah, your baby.

It was my firstborn consoling me, trying to calm me down. And I'm like. And I was so confused. In this state of going, she shouldn't be seeing me like this.

She shouldn't be having to tell her, mommy, don't cry anymore. This is like the worst thing that could happen. In my mind I was saying, this is the worst thing.

And then a couple of weeks later I said, okay, I'm done now. I did not have the strength to unalive myself, but I felt like God, higher self, source, light, whatever you want to call it.

I felt like, you know, God could do this for me. I'm in so much agony emotionally, which was turning into physical agony. I was ready. So it was 3am I'll never forget.

I looked over at the clock, he was sound asleep. And just like always, I was tiptoeing out, didn't want to wake him.

And I went into the bathroom and I laid there and with every ounce of me, I said, God, take me. Just, I am so ready. Everybody is going to be okay. I'm ready. And within that space, my eyes were closed, but I was fully awake.

It was almost like a form of lucid dreaming. And as I was like wrenching like every ounce of my soul, I started feeling this sense of expansion like, like thin.

And I started feeling like I was floating again. I'm wide awake, eyes are closed. And I was floating and I'm like, I can breathe. I wasn't feeling any physical pain.

I wasn't feeling any emotional pain. I wasn't feeling anything. And then, you know, you can blink with your eyes closed. I was blinking, blinking.

And as I was blinking, all of a sudden, like stars formed around me. I was literally in the center of the universe. I could touch the stars, they were so close. I felt this dampness all around me.

I felt fully expanded and free. I felt I'm at bliss. I made it. I did it. I'm one. I'm like, oh, I have no more worries, no more doubt. This is it.

And I was always, like, just basking in it. You could say it was seconds. It felt like hours for me. I heard three simple words. Love will come. It was very masculine. It was just like that.

And it vibrated like I was in the center of a speaker. It was all around me. And as soon as I heard was like, this sudden, like. Like, shake, right?

And then I got this whoosh back into my body, and then I'm like, what? What? And I was, like, shaking, girl. I was ladies. I was 100% corporate. None of this was, like, in my wheel. My. What do they call?

Wheelhouse.

Wheelhouse.

Yeah.

With none of this. And so I was freaking out. Like, what?

Going crazy now.

I felt. Yeah. And I stood up and I was shaking. Like something happened, but I didn't know. And I knew. I heard it. I knew what happened. I saw it, I felt it.

And I crawled back in the bed. And when I woke up, I'm like. I felt as if God threw that rope into the hole I was in. And then I climbed out.

I had this sense of, like, I, as an energy healer, don't like to hear when my client uses the word hope, because hope, they sit back and say, all right, I hope that happens. But in the sense when you are at the lowest of low, there's nothing else but to leave a physical body that.

That sense of hope lifts you out of that dark despair feeling, right? And I said, oh, my gosh, I'm going to finally get what I've been asking for for 14 years and probably all my life.

At this point, when people sit back and say, I just hope that'll happen, they're sitting back expecting it to come to them, right? But the hope that was given to me lifted me from the lowest of low. And so being able to.

It's worth it.

Yes.

There's something worth it.

Yes. Yes. That I'm going to finally receive what I felt I never had. Love. So the very next day.

And I took care of the kids. I took care of everything on the inside of the house, and he did everything on the outside of the house.

So with that said, he was sitting There reading his newspaper, having his cocktail. Bring me this, take care of that. What's for dinner? As he's walking in from the gym. And I had to make sure the dinner was right on the table.

It was not what I ever thought I would be living. Yeah. And my soul was saying, I hate this. Yeah.

But my love for him was, if I just do it one more night, if I just do it one more day, he'll see and he'll turn into my prince Charming. Well, we know that it just didn't work out that way.

And so I realized that I needed the strength to either change within me, which then allowed me to get the strength to leave the relationship, because he wasn't going to change after 14 years. I allowed to what he created. I allowed it.

I mean, you did talk about your past, though. And I kind of feel like you're saying, yeah, I allowed it. And it's true. We have to take responsibility for the things that happen to us, I think.

Yes.

But then at the same time, I. I'm wondering, like, how much can you say, oh, it's all my fault, but really there's also patterns that you were reliving over again.

Yes, but I didn't say it was all my fault.

Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. It's probably me projecting.

Or can you cook? Or can, you know, can we do other things?

But I was so enthralled by wanting love from him that I was doing whatever it took to please him so that he could love me. It doesn't work that way, my friends. You have to love yourself first. You have to. And within that you set boundaries. No, and O is a full sentence.

But I didn't want to say any of that for fear of losing something I wanted so badly, but I wasn't getting it. Do you see what I'm saying?

But I was convincing myself that if I just do it one more time, one more day, one more year, that he would see and love me. And it only got worse. So finally I got the strength after that spiritual epiphany because really crazy things were happening after that.

Like off the chart crazy things.

Like, I would go to a store and this was before I left him, but I'd go to a store and people would walk up to me and start telling me their gut wrenching stories. About abuse and neglect. And I was just standing in a store, someone would just walk up and start talking to me. Wow, like what?

And I knew after reflecting from that over all these years, realizing that God was showing me that everyone has stuff going on, you just don't know about it. And yours may not have been as bad as theirs, or what you're labeling may not be as bad as theirs.

Yes, mine was pretty bad to the point where I almost unlodged myself. But it showed me that there is a lot out there that people are experiencing, and I'm not alone. Yes.

And so once I, you know, those crazy things were happening, and then I had this woman start coming to me. I left corporate for a minute and became an esthetician. And this woman just appeared, and she wanted me to do her brows. And I'll never forget her.

She's so amazing. And at first, she was just coming for the appointment, and she was scheduling it once a month.

And by the third or fourth appointment, she says, you know, I have a message for you. Would you let them tell you? And I said, them? And I'm looking around the room, and I'm like, who's them? And I'm like, okay, whatever.

And she sat on the edge of the bed, and she closed her eyes, and she started telling me these stories that, oh, someone owes you money and they're going to pay up in the next 30 days. And when your childhood. I'll never forget that one, because that person did pay up 30 days. It was my dad, really. He owed me money and he paid out.

She didn't know. She didn't know me. Other than coming in. I was doing a browse, and we weren't really talking personal stuff. And when he. She told me that it was a way.

Because, remember, I said I was not. I was 100% corporate. I was not in the spiritual realm. God was giving these messages through her.

And we can label it God, but I'm going so people can understand.

But giving me messages so that I can let go of any feeling of not trusting what she was giving me, these messages of saying, something's gonna happen and it's gonna support you.

Oh, so, like, you couldn't even say, oh, maybe that was the universe and it wasn't. Maybe it was just a coincidence.

I don't believe in coincidence. Even back then, I didn't.

Oh, you didn't?

No, no.

I didn't believe in coincidence. And so when, you know, she gave me that message, and I said, okay, well, we'll see. Because I. I'm the type that would never say no.

I'd say, okay, okay, I received that. Let. Let's. Let me think about that. And I would put it, like, in my little basket to hold to. For it to present, right? Meaning let it show itself.

And then when my dad paid off and I could not wait for her to come back. Cause you remember she came back once a month. As soon as she walked in, I closed the door and I said, girl, thank you. Like what?

I never expected to see that money. Because it was significant, right? And because, you know your dad, you just don't expect to see it. And whammo, there it was.

And then she says, we have. We have more messages for you.

And so the more she started giving me messages about, you know, we see you doing certain things and, you know, and in this capacity. And remember, I was. I had left corporate, went to Esthetician, and I'm like, okay, okay. And I would just go, okay.

But then she was planting these little seeds, and then I just went, hmm. I remember she came after the spiritual epiphany. She came after when all these people were coming to me in these stores and telling me these stories.

So I was open to hear what was happening and what was going on. And then as they were showing itself, the end result was happening with what she was telling me. I couldn't deny that that was like.

In your face, right?

So what I realized is, like, you know what? This stuff is making sense to me. The books I was reading, Esther Hicks, Wayne Dyer, you know, I call them the masters of Psychic 101.

It helps you understand things different than what you are believing you're experiencing. It's about the creation inside your intuition, trusting things that you can manifest. Because I am a master manifester.

That started after the car accident that I had. And I didn't realize that I was a master manifester. But remember, we were, you know, children from children, and we had a lot of lack.

But I kept hearing the N O word, but in my head, I was repeating K, N O W. So I wasn't allowing myself as a child to be put off by that N O word. I was saying to myself, I can figure this out. I'm gonna get it.

And then I would just sit in my room and visualize that I could have a new pair of pants or a new dress, and a neighbor would give it to me. Yeah. Or the church family gave it to me. Or, you know, I got so many things that my mom started telling people, stop giving it to me.

So many people would have been gifted those things. And the thought I. I wanted a new dress or I wanted not hand me downs or whatnot, I don't know.

But I feel like you being grateful for what the universe was giving you and actually allowing yourself to see that it was a gift.

Yeah.

That probably made your manifestational powers grow stronger.

So because it's not a coincidence, I can give you a clear defined one. And I'll never forget. I remember it so clearly. It was my dad's dad, or, excuse me, my mom's dad, my. My maternal grandfather. I was his favorite.

He did whisper that to me when I was little. I know he did whisper that to me one day. And I'm like, oh, Grandpa called him Pop Pop. He used to take me to Lexington. Lexington Market in Baltimore.

There's an open market in this warehouse. And. And everybody would go, and you'd buy the fish. Like New York. Like Chelsea Market. The fish, the cheese.

And, you know, and he would take me, and then he would, like, you know, get your candy. Get what you want.

And I remember he would walk down the street holding my hand and telling me all these stories from his childhood, you know, because we were, like, buds. And we walked into Hex. All these stores are no longer existing, but. But walked into Hex, and at the time, those satin jackets were really popular.

They were like. All the kids were wearing it. Well, my parents didn't have the money to buy anything for us. I never told him that.

That's what I was dreaming of, that I want to have one of those.

And I remember walking through the store, and, you know, the poles, they'll have the square pole in the middle of the store in various parts to hold up the ceiling, right? Yeah. Well, in that store, they were hanging some of the clothes, the jackets, on one of those poles.

And we were walking by, and I looked up, and it was a pink satin jacket. And I'm like. And the angels were singing when I was looking at it. And he saw me looking at it, and he said, do you want that? And I said, yep.

And he bought it for me. And my mom made him take it back. Oh, no. Mom made him take it back because he bought it from me. And my brother and sister didn't get anything.

And that was the thing, because I was manifesting all of these things I never told him I wanted. I just looked at it. But when I looked at it, he could see the love that was like. And he's like, you can have that. But it was a way. I mean, Come on.

My friends walking in that store, seeing that jacket right there, that's called manifesting. That is not called a coincidence. And I manifested that. But then it came down to my mom saying, no. And hearing that multiple times, I'm like, no.

This catapulted me to know. I'll figure it out. I'll get it myself. I'll do it. I will have everything I want and more. I do not care what anyone says.

And that's why I was able to get the car. And then hearing my grandfather telling me, who do you think you are? And I'm like, what?

And then I'm like, nope, that's another one I'm gonna jump over. That's another hurdle. And I kept jumping over hurdles and kept moving forward until, you know, I got to the spiritual epiphany.

But when I realized that after starting to read all those books, remember, I didn't have a lot of time. I was taking care of the kids, my job, him, everything.

And then going to the bookstore after the day after that spiritual epiphany and then pulling those authors, I said, you know, Esther Hicks, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle, and going, who are these people? And then I was looking at these books. No joke. I would open two at a time and go, that makes sense. That makes sense. Oh, my God.

It's almost like I became a speed reader. I don't even know. It's like something happened to me, and the more I read, the more it made sense. And my friends. The truth makes sense.

Yeah.

So when I was realizing this is really making sense to me, and then I was just owning the fact that, wow, you can think things and make it happen. I've been doing that for a long time. I didn't realize I was manifesting things. You can, you know, wish for things, but it's more than wishing.

It's the gratitude. I mean, this is a lifestyle. The gratitude, the trusting, the k n o w ing.

I was already setting myself up to be where I am with the decisions and the actions as a child and k n o w ing it. Right?

Yeah.

The truth is just trying to be happy with me, loving me. And so the more I started realizing, reading those books, I said, man, what's this Reiki? You know, what's this energy weight you do?

Reiki?

Yeah.

How do I not know that?

I don't think I knew that.

Well, I'm only level 2, but.

So Reiki. Well, any form of energy work, I call a lily pad. Anything you do, actually, you step into something It's a lily pad. What do frogs do?

They sit on the lily pad, basking in the sun, eating the little crickets and things that fly by. And when they're done, they jump to another lily pad right when they're done. It's the same thing with the things that we do.

So I started with Reiki because I'm like, I don't know this energy work, and, you know, let me do it on me. Then somebody did it on me, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, what was that all about?

And I remember at nih, which is not too far from here, it's very close, actually, they had a department.

They weren't telling the public, but they had a department about energy work, and they were allowing these providers to work on people and to see and investigate what this energy work, this Reiki, is about.

Are these scientists or is NIH a hospital?

National institute. Nih. National Institute of Health. Yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. Where they were studying. Studying research and all that. Well, they had a whole department.

And again, I didn't even know that. Most of the public didn't. I don't even think any of the public knew about this pocket. And this is a fact.

So if anybody wants to research it, this is a fact. Because I ended up. Don't ask me how I found the Reiki master. I don't even recall. I just manifested her.

She was the department head, so I know that this is a fact. When she came and told me about it, and I said, huh? What? I got an attunement for level one and two, and I. I decided not to go to three.

And so when I started as the esthetician, I had already had the attunement, so I started telling my clients, can I play quote unquote with you? Will you allow me? Yes, yes, yes. Whatever you want to do. I said, oh, I'm doing this kind of thing called Reiki. Oh, what's that?

I don't know, but I'm just going to play with you. Let me tell you ladies, when I would work with them, every single person, what are you doing? I can feel it. What's going on? I can feel it.

I said, okay, we're just doing magic, right? And so what I've realized over time is that the first question was, what are you doing? What's going on?

And I felt there was more to this whole thing, because the practice of Reiki is that you're just the conduit. The energy comes through you, goes to the client, wherever it's Going to heal you. Hug. And they go on their merry way. That's the protocol now.

Over all these years, they're really big at all. Changed it.

Stay away. It's just. You're just. It's just going through you.

That's right. But over time, people have changed it, you know, And I. I said, that's a protocol. That's what you've learned. Great.

But when I started realizing, I said, there's more to this. So I started breathing a certain way. As I've worked with you, I was breathing a certain way when I first started.

I'd say, if I breathe in, I can breathe the energy into me. If I breathe out, I can put it where I want it to go. So I started saying that to myself.

And so I started creating my own modality where I could actually maneuver the energy and place it where I want it to go. And then more people are like, I can really feel it. Where are you going? And I say, oh, I'm putting it right here or on your shoulder.

And oh, my God, I'm feeling heat. And people would tell me these things. And so over time, you know, I was practicing with them, but then I'm like, okay, I need to develop more.

I always believe that if you're in the space, because there'll be listeners that, oh, I do Reiki or I do energy work, but you have to have a baseline of what you're doing, or you'll be all over the place. So I took an intuitive development course that lasted a year, and we were meeting every week.

And so I was able to develop some of the things that I was figuring out on my own about this manipulation or maneuvering of energy where I can put it all for the best and highest good. All for the best and highest good. I had to repeat that because when.

When someone hears that word that I said, manipulation, immediately people think that's negative. So I'm like, no, I am maneuvering. I am placing it that energy where it's. I know it needs to be. And that K N O W.

Remember, I started training myself when I was little so that again, intuitively living and flipping how I saw it and already placing myself to be the master of maneuvering energy and not knowing it. Right? And so then I said, okay, let me maneuver it. Let me place it where I want to be.

And then what I was finding is that people would say, oh, my gosh, I had a pain in my shoulder. And how did you know I don't have it anymore? And I had back pain and look, I can get up and touch my toes.

And I started seeing that and they were experiencing that. And so over time, I started asking God, because, you know, that's my connection. We're like peanut butter and jelly.

That I said, I want to be more precise. Show me, give me ideas. Let me know when I'm on top of something, meaning a limiting belief or somebody is struggling, something.

Tell me and show me that I'm on top of it. Because that's. That's what was just at the beginning of my practice.

And then what I started seeing, a pattern is a feeling that I was just gifted the most wonderful birthday or Christmas present. Like, ah. And I think I said in your session, I'm on top of it, or I feel it, or I, you know, and I know I'm on. I'm like, I can feel it.

And so once I realized that that was a pattern of feeling, I said, now I'm on top of exactly what's going on. And then through the intuitive development course, I was able to strengthen my clairaudience, my voyance, and my sentience.

Those are the three strongest ones that are really good when you're doing energy work because people want, first of all, they want to be able to see it. So when you're seeing something in your head, your mind's eye, right, the voyance that you're describing it, they're getting a picture as well.

When you're hearing conversations, that's a clear audience. Then you're giving them confirmation that, oh, I just heard and whatever it is I'm sharing. And they're like, oh, how'd you know?

I think you rolled your eyes a couple times when I was right on what rolling means. Ah, how'd she know that I shared? You said we just had a conversation about that because I was picking it up in your energy field.

So I heard it or I felt it, right. And that clairsentian is just K N o W. And I had already placed myself to supersize into that as a child.

So utilizing just the three clairs, or our six. But those three strongest ones are the masterpiece of being able to help people in a profound way.

I'm giving them a description, I'm telling them what I'm hearing. And that.

That knowing, no matter what you say, I know I'm on top of it, even if I have to explain it a different way of whatever it is I'm picking up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't know what to expect before we started doing the healing session. Now what is the difference of this between what you're doing and Reiki?

So I am more involved where, you know, with Reiki, as I stated protocol, you just stand there, quiet, hug goodbye.

Okay.

I manipulate or maneuver the energy where I want it to go.

And when you say that, are you saying, I'm feeling anger? Let me pull that out and then just flick it, like, into the universe.

There you go.

Or like.

Like I anger. And you went right to your heart. So anger can be in your heart or in your solar plexus, which is your stomach.

And people can hold anger in their heart when they've had parental challenges. And so, you know, I.

I automatically start with putting one hand on the heart and the other on the stomach so that I can find the connection to the fears and the love and what's going on. Right. That's the reason why I start when I'm physically with a client, I do remote work, and it's slightly different.

It's more talking, but as I close my eyes, like I did in the room, most of the time my eyes were closed, but I can pick things up remotely. But the face to face, I like to see people, especially when they're local.

And if they're not, I've had many, many people fly to see me, but then if they have physical stuff, then I can go right to shifting it out. So, like, I start with the, as I said, the stomach and the heart, and then source just guides me.

I'll see, you know, go to the shoulders or all here, go to the head, and I'll just go to wherever I'm guided to.

Okay. That was one of my questions. It's because, like, with Melissa, you went to different parts of the body and not with me.

And you did actually also start in a different position. So I wasn't sure, like, if that was like, oh, I'm called to start here. I'm called to go here. Or, like, what?

She did go to lots of parts on your body. She did your hip.

I remember the hip.

Stomach, your throat, your head.

Yes.

Occipital.

Yep.

She went to your feet, though.

She did go to my feet.

And so I was like, you were.

A little bit like, what about my feet? My feet are cute.

I mean, it was feeling, like, a pretty good massage on my neck. So, like, yeah, you could have, like, rubbed my feet just a little bit. But it was nice.

The feeder about, like, moving forward, and I felt you needed some grounding because the more we were talking about some things. Yeah.

Thank you.

Yeah. So I was guided to go to your feet. And you know, when we were filming, I'm like, oh, I'm out of the, out of the screen. But I needed to.

And remember, you lifted your feet for me and I said, no, no, you don't have to do that for me. You're such a giver, I can take care of it.

And what's so funny is that's the exact story for yourself that you were sharing. And so when as you were talking to us just now, it was making me think like, oh, this is like the exact challenge that you have had in your life.

So how do you know? How can you put your own feelings and your own experience aside?

I love that. That's amazing. I love. That's an excellent question. Because first off, I separate myself and become just the participant watching, right?

Even though my physical body with my hands are doing it. I don't own your stuff.

I was hoping that's the.

What you would say, I don't own any of it because if I did, it would take me down. You know, at the very beginning, I love this story.

At the very beginning, I was spending 20 hours on a psychic website for five years and raising two children on my own. A 40 hour job, plus another 20 hours a week to be on an advisor on a psychic website. But I was doing it. It was the playbox.

It was a sandbox to play in if I wanted to expand and grow and be able to play with people that I, I didn't know. Right. And so I remember this one woman came to me and she said, okay, I want you to heal me. My son, my daughter, my dog, my boyfriend, my husband.

That's what she said. My boyfriend and husband.

Oh no, I didn't even catch that.

I was just like, oh, yes, she told me that didn't. And I said, okay, so I'm all in. And I'm like, you know, it's all remote work. I'm closing my eyes and I'm visualizing.

And I'm like, okay, you're the husband. Now you're boyfriend. Now you're this, now you're that. And by the time I got to the dog, it was like an hour later. I was so sick to my stomach.

I was dizzy and sick to my stomach. And I said, okay, we're done now, gotta go. I went in the bathroom and I was hugging the toilet. And I said, I'm gonna throw up. I'm like, why?

What is going on? And I went back to my mentor and I said, what? I wanted her healing more than she did. I took it on. I took on wanting it more than she.

And so once, and thank goodness, that was at the very beginning of learning this work. And I said, I understand now. So now I don't go in insensitive and. Cause I am all in for you.

I want you to be empowered and to receive all the things your heart is singing to. Right. I want that for you, but I will never want it more than you. Yeah.

And so now when I go in, I'm hearing the stories, and sometimes I'll cry with you and, you know, I'll see an amazing breakthrough physical. And I'm crying with my clients too. Yes, yes, I'm all in. I feel it, but I also don't own it. And so now I don't get taken down. I don't get dizzy.

I don't. Now every once in a while, I call the work I do.

I take my baby toe and touch the pool of water, but I'm allowing my physical body to show me and tell me what's going on, just so I can understand quickly. I don't sit in it so that I can get nauseous and dizzy. So if I do get dizzy, it gets instantaneous and it stops and you are too much into your head.

I am like, dizzy. Oh, no way. And that's somebody who's constantly in their head. So my.

My body will help me understand with what I'm picking up, but it's just so slight and it's very quick, and it's interpretations besides what I'm seeing and hearing and knowing. So I take it one step further. So to answer your question, the difference between Reiki is that I felt it was too simple.

I actually do too.

Yes. Because people want more. They want to know, what are you seeing? Because I asked you, do you have any final questions?

People will want to know, what'd you see? What more do you have for me? What's my future? Because remember, I spent five years on the psychic website.

The strongest probability in your energy field. And so with them wanting more, Reiki wasn't giving up.

Wait, sorry, what does that mean? What is the strongest probability in your meaning, energy fields?

Psychic work is the strongest probability of what's in your energy field. Okay, so that's the future. Psychic work is future, current and future, but most of the time, future. Yes.

And so with Reiki, people want more than just hug, and they want to know what happened. So once I realized or what are you doing? What are you seeing? They want to take home something that says, I Didn't see that coming. I didn't know that.

I think you even said I didn't. Whatever you were saying, you didn't put it together or something.

Yes. Yes. I forgot.

Yeah. I forgot exactly how you said it. But I hear that all the time, that I didn't see that coming or I didn't know, or. Oh, now I know why. Right. Yeah.

I didn't think of that that way because I'm going right to the core of your subconscious. Subconscious. You don't remember. Yeah. Because we're living consciously here.

But I'm picking up the stories embedded from childhood that are keeping you from whatever it is that you feel like you're struggling with. So I'm the person who puts the pieces of your puzzle together and then can shift it so you'll feel more enlightened.

You'll feel that it's not bothering you anymore, you know, and that these coincidences are happening because they're not a coincidence.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah. You mentioned that when you were playing with clients that they would be like, oh, I can feel that.

I can feel that.

And I remember there were a few times, like, you might have been, like, holding my hand or something. And then, like, a few minutes later, I would feel, like, heat, like, behind my shoulder or something, and I'm like, oh, okay, that's weird.

Or maybe I. Yeah. And so there was, like, several of those.

Oh, you're sharing it now.

I'm sharing it.

You didn't share it on the table.

I mean, was it obvious which one of us is more?

No, no, it's all good. She's a processor. We know.

Right.

Thank you for sharing it now. So. Yeah. So what's happening is. Yes. Shoulders are.

I guess I didn't know that that was, like, something to feel until you were describing, like, oh, when I'm doing this, people were saying, I'm feeling this or feeling that. So I. I guess I just maybe thought, oh, she's pushing a pressure point.

And, you know, I thank you for stepping into something unknown to you. Right.

Yeah.

And I kept saying to you, you taught. You're responding with, like, someone who's never worked in energy work before.

And that's okay because you're a person who labels everything as a coincidence or, you know, I gotta think it out or process it out when you don't have to.

I have to find the truth. Like the fact. Like.

Yes, but I tell people that I am not the book of science. I'm not, but I am the end result of what you're Looking for.

So would you rather sit there and say, I need to know why that happened, or would you rather say, thank you, Terri? I'm grateful that it did happen as an adult.

We now have lived these experiences that we remember as a child, and now we have longevity of what responsibility is, what value is, the bills we have to pay, what we want to say, not to say. We don't want to hurt people's feelings. No, not as a child.

As I stated when you were laying on the bed, the child is seeing things for the first time. Then when you're hearing, we have to lie to dad. What? We have to lie to dad. Oh, man. Well, we got to lie to dad. How am I going to do that? Right.

Because. And that's the first time you heard it. You've heard it multiple times. But then you're like, whoa. A child has to now make a decision.

I don't really want to lie. I was told never to lie, but now my mom is telling me that's a lie. And lie to dad. All right. I'm a lie to dad because my.

My, you know, mom's protector. I'm a lie to dad. But then all these other things. Dad's this and Dad's that.

And so now you're getting this perception that dad is all these things, and then it's your whatever mom is saying, and then whatever however dad is acting that's like, oh, proof that what mom is saying is proof that what dad. Now I really have to lie. Now I really have to separate. Now I really have to he backs.

Up and validate everything that she was teaching.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah. So they're both a perception of burden. I was on the dad's shoulder when you got the feeling from the mom. It's perfect.

Okay, I'm feeling something again, but I just. I'm not clicking.

It's in your head. That's not clicking because your body is responding and saying. Yes, explain.

Maybe you're not. So when you're saying, because I'm not 100% sure I get it. And maybe this is where you're.

Okay, okay.

When you're saying that, when you. Wait, say that last line again. It was the perception of burden lifted from your. That's what shifted on the mom's side when.

What happened?

When I was working on the dad's shoulder. So on the right side is dad perception of burden.

So we were working on dad was.

Project it as a big burden. You have to lie. You have to. Whatever the listing that all the things your mother Told you to do because of dad. Because of dad is a burden.

Okay.

Okay. And I was working on your dad's side, but your mom created that perception of burden through what she was saying.

So as a child, you're going to get both of that feeling. Because mom, you're telling us to lie. Okay. And then over time, dad showing why your mom was saying you have to lie. Right.

But a block is created in the first incident, not. And sometimes multiple. But in your case, the first incident. So through mom's perception of burden, dad is also a burden.

So then now, because dad is proven that he's a burden, I was working through the dad's shoulder. Right. The right side. To allow you to release the mom burden. Okay.

Whether it was big or small was getting released.

Yes. And it's. Everything is.

Maybe it was easier to release the mom burden. Is that a possibility?

Why? Yeah, because you let go of that first. The ripe fruit is things that you're gonna feel really eas, because it's right on the surface.

Now, the other thing, one of the things that I want to work on, I. I do hear things and know things sometimes. And so, like, I need to fine tune it because I don't know what I'm doing.

Baseline, Baseline.

And one of the. So that happened during your guys session, there was like two times that I can think off right off the top of my bat.

One of them was, of course I heard you. Like, I want to be under the blanket. So just go in the blanket.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So let's call the listeners that. She basically just read my mind and realized that, no, you really want this.

And I was like, don't tell me what I want. But she was right.

Now, the second time that really stood out is she was. And I'm only talking about this because you have already revealed this in another episode.

So she was working on the uterus, and she was talking about, you're having a hard time with babies. And you were like, yes, I've had miscarriages. And what was interesting is that she was on the right side.

Okay.

So male side. And she said that that was your strong side, your dominant side.

What we've learned from another conversation with another psychic medium was that the twins were boys. And so it really, like, it sent these, like, chills up my, like, right arm. Because I was like, like, whoa, the right side's stronger.

And they were boys.

There was a boy, but.

Oh, I thought they were both boys.

That's okay. That's interesting.

Yeah.

I hadn't thought of that yet?

I don't know.

It just made me think of that because you guys were talking about the babies and then the male side being stronger. I was like, oh, they were. They were boys. But that's right.

You're right.

It was a boy and a girl.

But it meant. But.

But the fact that like, that she.

Did say the boy side was stronger, the boy soul was stronger.

She was getting a stronger him. You're correct.

Yeah.

I was gonna say the fact that even thought that in there, it must kind of have meant something. So I'm just kind of thinking to ponder on that.

But I think it's also because like we talked about before we came out here to record is, hey, Melissa, you know, I'm not going to remember shit about what happened in my recording, but I know it happened in yours. And I'm sitting there like, I wish I had popcorn. Great. And Terri was so, like animated and like, just made it so funny.

And then there were many times where I was like, oh my God, I just wish I had popcorn. And then at the end I was like, wait, you can't. You gotta go back and you gotta explain that story that you said. Nevermind. Too. Which one it was.

We were wondering. There was a person that she was feeling energy from you off of. And she goes, well, I could tell you why.

Oh.

Or what's going on.

And then I was like. And then she left it. And I was like, I. I also.

Was thinking like three quarters of the way through the session when we weren't talking about that anymore, I was like, is she gonna tell me the thing that she felt? And then I forgot about it.

It.

And so I was.

Oh, I wasn't gonna forget.

Oh, yeah, you didn't. No, I was waiting. This whole thing, like, please tell me.

I need my. Like if I could have a secret power, I would want omniscience. Omniscience. Is that the word?

Omniscience? Do you say? I say. I don't say this, but do you.

I don't know.

Since omniscient.

Me, I want to be omniscient.

She wants to know all things.

I want to know the answer to all things.

Yeah.

All things possible.

Need the answer and the truth to all things. Things.

Yes. Somebody like me.

Can you recall what the grandest message was from each of us when you were doing our reading? Just to kind of close out? Because I know that, like I said, it's so hard for me to remember before I go back in. Yeah.

And keep in mind, I'm the Messenger. So I don't own a lot of stuff, but.

Okay, so it goes in and goes out.

Give me a second. Cause there was very profound for you. Melissa, Let me start. So yours was about life. And I was. I can see through the body. I can see organs.

And then I was attracted right. To your uterus. Okay. And that's when I was saying, okay, I can see something going on with your uterus. And then you shared your. Your history of child.

Childbearing. Right. And I'm sorry that you're going through that. Thank you. You're welcome. So.

So when I picked that up and I was saying that this side is weak and the other side. I'm just kind of paraphrasing. So. And I said, this is about your life where you did. Yes. And I was saying parts of your life.

Half of your life feel strong. The other part is very weak.

Right. How can I strengthen that other part?

I told you.

See, I gotta watch the video again.

She did tell you.

I did tell you. You. Yeah.

To follow my dirt. My feet.

There was that too. Silly feet in my silly hips.

You know what? Maybe you should go back and watch it.

I will be well.

But I did tell you.

Okay.

Thank you. That's okay.

Thank you.

And so for you, yours was about you're in your head and trusting, but trusting that it's more than just what you're seeing. Yours was so profound. And I said, you have to change how you are living life.

It's a lifestyle because you're living in the survival mode, not the thriving mode.

I feel like I'm surviving, like I'm getting out of survival mode. Like I actually feel like I'm still so much better.

I will say she has changed a lot over this past year.

It. It. Okay.

And so when I talk, she wants some validation.

When I say this, it's from the subconscious space.

Okay.

What you're saying is from the conscious space. Okay. When I'm talking, I'm talking about what's inside your blueprint of what's going to be triggered. And coming up. Okay.

The childhood stuff, things you're still holding onto. Right. I picked up a lot of stuff about your dad and your shoulder. And I said I had to. I feel like it was a big ball. Right.

And so for you, you are seeing right now how you've worked on yourself and how far you've come, but you still have much more to accomplish. So when I say that you had to change your lifestyle, it's about how you think. Stop over processing, get out of your head.

Trusting from the heart to the stomach versus trying to trust through processing in your head. That's not how we live.

The head is going to talk you way out of half the things that you need to trust in the heart and in the solar plexus, the stomach, the portal of emotions. That's where you have so far to go. No, it's not. And you even said at one point, I'm broke. And I said, no, you're not. No, you're not.

That made me so sad.

And I was so.

And I could feel the love from you immediately, by the way. I forgot about that until just now that you said that. No, I didn't see that at all. But she was just like, sweetie. And like.

Yeah, it made me want to cry.

Yeah. Because when I look at that as negative talk, self sabotage towards self.

Not the first time I've heard that.

Well, when you're saying I am, you're owning it. So now you're in there saying, I am broken. You're telling God I am broken. And God was going to say, well, let me show you what that looks like.

So you're going to break a toe, a foot, an arm. So we don't want that. Delete, delete, delete. We don't. And so that's why I shifted it. Oh, no, hold on, babes.

Because that's not who you are, that you are not. And I was making it very clear through a loving way and hearing everything you're saying, how you're breathing, how you're responding.

I do remember that your third eye.

Getting it to come alive.

It was so fun working with you. I really enjoyed it.

It was amazing.

And honestly, again, I have to rewatch the video, but I had so much more fun watching her work on you. Anything else you want to share with us before we close?

Oh, yeah.

What's the biggest thing you want our listeners to know?

You know, to be open, open to be receiving that things may sound a little bit different but can be very profound as well. As you ladies were able to experience that. Some of the things that. How would I know? I never met you before until we came together today.

Because I don't want to know anything about anyone when you come because I want to show how accurate and profound this work is. And if you're struggling, don't continue to struggle.

You know, if you're going through your traditional methods of a general practitioner or a homeopathic doctor or something like that sound, bowl, healing, breath, work, energy healing. There are, you know, we are all energy. So to try something that you haven't tried before may be the most profound result you get.

So opening up to trying something different to try to alleviate yourself out of your torment, your struggle, your pain, your resentment, and know that there are answers out here, but to be very open to receive them.

And I want to thank you again for sharing that very vulnerable and personal story with all of us. I think it really helps us understand how much adversity you really had to overcome to become who and what you are today.

Yeah. And everyone can. That's why I do love.

That's what I thought about when you were sharing it. I was like, I'm so glad she's sharing this because I feel like people need to know that they can too.

Yes, everyone can. Yeah. But I had to dive deep, forgive the man that I thought was the. The my God, you know, and my granddad was that person.

And to have those words spoken, that was soul shattering. Yeah.

And there are people out there, many, many, many that have had soul shattering experiences and are still living with the resentment, the pain, the hurt. And it doesn't have to be that way.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you. So nice to meet you and be in your space.

It's beautiful.

Beautiful.

Yes. I'm so glad you came. I love this. I love my little sanctuary.

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