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In this episode of Don't Get This Twisted, Robb and Tina explore how music deeply connects us to emotions, memories, and past relationships. They share personal stories about songs that evoke powerful feelings and how music can serve as a bridge to our subconscious and shared human experiences.

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And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Yeah, we're recording on, well, the day before it's going to come out on Tuesday because I took the day off and I didn't call in sick or anything. I actually took the day off. So I'm not playing hooky. I just wanted an extra. I wanted a four day weekend, so I did it. And I kind of planned it good, right?

Nice, four day weekends are awesome. We're coming up on a three day.

I'm only gonna work Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and then get another three days off. Yes, I planned it. Yeah, I was doing my best to to make sure that I only had to work a couple of days and then I could go back and get more days off. It's always the way to do it.

That's the way to do it.

So we were talking about some things here and there before we got on here and you kind of said something about songs and how they can give you emotion and and what they you know how you can be driven to these thoughts right about lyrics and such and I am a sucker for that kind of shit like I

I'm a sucker for love songs. You know, I think we come from the coast 103. right? Like love songs on the coast.

Cheesy 80 love songs from Coast 103. Yeah. They still do that, by the way. I don't buy into it anymore, but buy into it. yeah, they still have, you listen to The Coast in the evening, they still do the love songs, and people still do dedications and whatnot.

Do they really?

You know, I mean, I'm assuming that I don't know if it's Coast where I'm at. I'd have. it is over here. OK. Interesting. I didn't know because I mean, I had known that. That it, you know, Coast has changed over the years for people who don't know it's 103.5 here in the Los Angeles area, but they have always been known for kind of. You know.

Cheesy 80s love songs.

Yeah, well, and like just their regular format was always kind of soft rock or, you know, pop songs. And then, and of course at like seven o'clock at night, it just become like love songs on the coast and they would play love songs until you fell asleep. Yeah. Yeah, me too. It was, you know, and, and, and I think that, you know, lyrics.

softer.

Yeah, I used to listen to them to go to sleep every night for probably about 15 years.

are an interesting thing because I think that a lot of people don't don't get the bigger picture. I think that, you know, the people who write these songs, some are well written for them, right? Like, and I hate the shit on pop stars, but a lot of pop stars, they don't even write their own shit. Like a lot of them don't.

A lot of country singers don't write their own stuff. Like I would say most of them don't. Rock bands, although I heard even that is changing in today's landscape, for the longest time wrote their own songs. So lyrically, it's amazing how...

You know, someone can write a song about their personal stuff and it resonates with everyone.

And I know that that probably has to do with us being human and we all have a conscience and, you know, we all have.

Well, everybody goes through certain things in their life. I mean, it's just a part of life. when they write about them, especially like love or breakups or losing someone or major loss, that sticks with pretty much everybody because we've all gone through it.

Correct. And it's something that resonates deep in us, right? Like I can hear a song that was dedicated to me in high school and it still resonates the same way with me today. So it's definitely a interesting

way of looking at things. You know, you... because these, there are these small bits of information that are still locked away in our subconscious.

well and and it's a very personal thing because normally like when songs will remind me of a person whether I was dating them or we were friends like I still hear a song that's rarely ever played and it's not even a it's not even a popular song it I guess it is for what it was but not really in my in my group of people but it reminds me of my friend in El Paso and every time I hear the song I

I want to send a text saying hey I was thinking about you I heard I heard a song that reminds me of you and Every time I've done that he wrote back is it this song or is it that song because there was two that like really? one was you know for him to like just keep going because he was just going through the worst time of his life and and the song just talked about you know, just hold on, know, just Give it another day, know sort of thing. So and then

Hahaha.

Another one was a song that every time we heard it we were like on the dance floor and going at it and you know just I don't know being being kids but not really kids being teenagers and just having that like best time party vibe but if I hear those two songs one I hear often because it's just on my reoccurring playlist because it makes me happy but the other one when I hear it it's almost like a you need to call him

Right.

you need to text him or you need to, you know, something and, and, and, and he knows without me saying what the song is, like it's, it's one of these. And I don't know. kind of liked that having that closeness or that bond. Cause we don't live in the same state. We don't, we don't talk every day. As a matter of fact, we could go years without talking, but, those songs are always each other's memory. And I dig that.

I think the cool thing about those things, mostly like songs that you resonate with over romance, obviously, I think that there's a lot that goes with that. Years later, I had, I'd got together with an old girlfriend and just happened to put on a playlist.

like of just 80s stuff, like not trying to, you know, make anything stand out at all. But all of sudden we both found ourselves like, I remember this and this was like, this was something that we, you know, remember and like those type of things. And it's interesting how quickly.

our brain goes to that time and place. And it's like a snap. And when you're with the person, it's even weirder. Because like we talked about like, I remember this. Or I remember like listening to this when we were together or or going to a concert because we had gone to a concert together. And it just happened to be that a

song from the sky came out. went to a country concert at the Greek actually and it all of sudden we were like yeah and we it was funny because there was a big country station here in Los Angeles that was pushing the concert at the time and we were looking at our tickets on the map and we were like pretty far up but like decent.

And we're like, we're to sit here. And this guy walks up to us and he goes, hey, you know, where are your tickets at? And we kind of showed him on the board and he goes, hey, do you want our tickets? And I was like, we're like, sure, whatever. And he goes, well, I'm Sean Parr. And he was the DJ of the radio station. He's like, he goes here, you can have our seats because, you know, obviously they had passes or whatever. And he goes, cool. And teen, these tickets were.

fucking amazing. They were so close. They were like probably 15 rows back. Like it was just really cool. And we even talked about that. And here's the funny part. Neither of us could remember his name. So, so we had to like start Googling like

country stations in the 90s and like to try to find out you know who he was and I was like now I can't forget it because I was like oh yeah Sean Parr he was a big-time guy here in LA so we we know we heard we went and saw Colin Reign we heard a song and and then that got us down another rabbit hole of other songs it I think emotion is so cool because it brought me back to like

You know, obviously the better times that you had is obviously this was an ex girlfriend. So like there were bad times. You know what I mean? Like, shit, they were like and there were some pretty filthy times that were not really good. But you forget about all that shit because these other things take you to the best parts. And, you know.

right?

The best part too is it's not just romance, at least for me. Like I can hear a song that takes me back to my best friend who lived right next door to us. And I remember laying on his brother's bed and he had a record player and hearing a song that...

Ended up becoming a huge hit way beforehand because it was on Guns N' Roses first record. So I can hear those songs and go, yeah, it reminds me of like hanging out with my friend growing up. And as we get older, it means more now.

Well the reason that we even brought this on was you know talking about emotions and things that they get away from you like I was on my trike and I was riding with a friend he has his own trike and he was ahead of me and He listens to his music now We used to ride together when he didn't have one so I would just put on music that he liked which was fine because it was almost like it became it became our playlist for writing and then

Sure.

So I'm on my bike and I'm following him and I have on goggles and then I have my head mask that goes over it to save my face. I don't know, I wonder, do I look like a guy on Because I'm not a small person, but I always think, do I look like a guy? I always tie my hair up, I always wear flannels and big sweatshirts and I don't know, that's just me.

Man, look, I'm sure you look all cool too.

I I already told you that that's there's no way Because because of your curvy like you Being a man I'll tell you right now I can tell I don't unless it's just a girl who's built like a board and And I'll tell you I've seen a lot of women on motorcycles mostly where I live. can tell there's no

I hope so.

Okay, well...

There's no doubt.

good because that's always a worry when I get dressed. always trying to wear like really girly colors or do something like put I even tied a ribbon in my hair and like had the ribbon go down a braid because my hair is really long right now. So I just I try to do things to not look like a dude, you know, so so anyway, I'm driving down this road in the middle of freaking nowhere. And when I'm on the bike, my brain wanders. It goes to places that like it doesn't

Right?

Normally go to because there's so much distraction normally in my world that I don't have to think real hard, know, it's it's there's always something to focus on and There was a song that came out. It was a Billy Ray Cyrus in a Miley Cyrus

And my daughter brought it to me like way back in the day when she's 17 I would say when it came out and it was about her going away and him not wanting her to you know like going off to college and growing up or something that that sort of situation and I I kind of you know my daughter and I haven't had the best relationship since she's at 18 So I I put this on an old playlist and forgot about it Well, you know I have my own music on so I'm like, I'm gonna listen to this

Playlist and I just let it run and and The type of playlists I have I can't fast forward so this song came on and I've just I've been I've stayed away from it for 17 or 15 16 years and All of a sudden it comes on and I just start the waterworks start I just start crying like I couldn't keep The emotion down and here I am, you know, I'm I'm riding you need two hands when you're riding a bike of the thank God I have

control so I put it on cruise control I'm like trying to pull off the the goggles and everything to wipe off the tears because at this point there's so much water coming out of my face that I can't even see where I'm going and it was so weird how

how it took me back to like the first time I heard it and how it felt and what was going on in my world at that time and it, I just couldn't control the emotions. And it's funny because, know, I look at my life and stuff and I'm pretty stoic. I could hold my mud. You know, don't cry when people die. My cousin says I'm heartless. I had a friend for years and years that used to say

She goes, have no heart, you don't even cry at, you know, Hallmark commercials, you don't cry at movies, you don't, I just don't. It's not, it's just who I am, but this one song, like really, it cut me back, and I was like, fuck. So I get off.

That's not who you are.

We we pull over not too long ago, and I needed to and I wear a full face of makeup every day always always do and He looked at me and he goes he goes Fuck Dean what the hell's wrong with you? You look like you're sweating up a storm and my makeup was all over and I had to tell him and and he's not a He's not a warm fuzzy guy like he's just not you know so He goes he goes are you okay? And I always tell him do you need a hug?

Ha ha, aw.

I don't need a hug. That's always what we talk about like when he's having a hard day I just always try to tell him that because it pisses him off. It's not I'm not doing it to be nice, but I would I'd hug But it's more me just giving him a hard time when he

When he's frustrated, but he's all do you need a hug and I'm like yeah, I do like and so we had a whole conversation about this and and we ended up stopping and having a drink at like 10 o'clock in the morning because He's like let's just go talk you don't normally want to talk about things and I haven't heard this story. Let's go talk so We found this little this little rock building with these big stones making it making up

the building and and I had the best Bloody Mary of my life but the funny thing is it and we shouldn't have been drinking we sat in the bar for like two hours but

It was amazing how, you know, when you think that you don't have feelings towards something or not that you don't think you do, but it just, doesn't come to mind. And how, yeah, and how something could just trigger like this whole.

Yeah, they're dormant.

Set of emotions, you know like this the person that I ride with all the time. He doesn't know Tina as the mom He knows Tina as he and he'll tell me he goes you're a badass bitch Like you write a Harley you you command, know your space you hold your mud with with a bunch of men that are like, you know Hitting on you or doing whatever they're doing and he goes he goes and you walk in like you own the place He goes this crying thing. He goes. I don't know this

Right.

Part of you know and and I thought about that. I wonder how many people don't know that side of me, you know, cuz it's been 15 years out since my daughter's been gone and and I haven't been with my ex in six years, so it's almost like these you know and and because I lead such a Like come and go as I please sort of life, I think people see me as somebody that's never had

like real responsibility, you know, because yeah, yeah, so it was it was an interesting conversation. But it was amazing how I think I have a good, you know, a good handle on who I am and my emotions and whatnot. But I didn't that day.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Right. think that it's, a lot of that kind of stuff comes out of nowhere. You know, we were talking before, we talked about it before we got on here. Like what gets me is deaf people hearing for the first time, like videos like that, or military people coming home to their kids who haven't seen them. That is...

totally did.

horrible for me. I've been at work and there was one that came on my phone and I'm sitting there like trying to like not tear up at work and you know the phones are ringing and I'm like hold on I gotta try to answer the phone. So.

You

there's certain ones that I just have to stay away from like now I know not to click on them because it's just it's not a good idea because like those are like such heroing things right it's like when you when you see someone who's never heard before and and the baby ones are great because like they don't know but the adult ones to me are like even better

Yeah.

Well.

Did you ever see the one there's one I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's the girl comes it's on a ring camera and she comes to her best friend's door and her best friend answers the door and she's like, Hey, what's going on? And the girl just hits the ground. She's like, it starts crying. She's like, you okay? She's like, I can hear you. And she's like, what? It's such a great moment because it's

I've never seen that one.

It's a great one because it's like the girl just starts losing her mind and her friends like, are you okay? Like what happened? Like trying to, trying to find out what's going on. And she's like, I can hear you. And she's like, you can what? It's such a great one. It's because you can tell that like both of them, one's thinking that her friend is in trouble.

And one is like, holy shit, I can hear my best friend for the first time ever. It's so good. Yeah. So, so those get me like right away songs. I'm a song guy anyway. So those are like really bad and

Have you ever like gone on like, let me see your phone and let me look at your playlist. I've done that with some of my best friends and I'm like, this is like the story of our lives together. Like it's like the playlist for our whole life together. And there's not, there's not very many songs that you could hear that wouldn't remind them of me.

Correct.

And when I bring that to their attention, they're like, my god, you're right. It's almost like every song. But when you're that close and you have that much time together, you do create this whole playlist. Like I have, again with my friends in Texas, there's a whole Texas playlist where every song that's on that list reminds me of one of the people that live there. Because I know several. And they were all like DJs and dancers.

And wanting to be party people that will not want you to they are to this day they are and now their kids and their grandkids are dancing along with them it's kind of a crazy thing but All those songs from that I that I know of Texas and those people there are on a playlist and the playlist will go probably about 12 13 hours It gets it's you know, it's that

Right, yeah.

But it also brings, whenever I hear them, I'm like, so and so, I miss you. you know, like, I gotta give them a call. Or, my god, this was the best party ever. Remember, so and so threw up on the side of the van on the way home with all the DJ equipment in it. it brings back the craziest of memories. But some of the best and worst times, like, worst times, yeah.

Right?

Right. And I think that those are those are the ones that, know, I like every time I hear in the living years by Mike and the mechanics, I was actually driving on the freeway to my uncle's funeral when I heard that. So every time I hear it now, I just think of that.

It's amazing like I I again like when you see your best friend Look at his look at his playlist and see how much of that is is memories with you You would be so surprised like I didn't realize that that it was like that But I know all of my friends will say that song reminds me of you remember we did this and half the time I don't remember what we were doing It didn't it didn't sit on my heart the way it did on theirs, you know

What?

Correct, yes. I think that's like what you just said is even more awesome because like it's something that means so much to them and you're just like, yeah, like I remember. Yeah, exactly. I was just doing a me thing. This is just what we do. Yeah, you know, I didn't even think about it that way, but yeah, like.

Yes. I was just being Tina. Yeah.

You know?

It's it's kind of a weird I'm I'm big on music and stuff and so many of my friends we talk about music and we talk about things that we did and songs will remind us of memory so we're always talking about something but um there's Rod Stewart is coming to the Hollywood Bowl and I got a couple of really cheap tickets because I don't want to see him he's not good-looking to me but I love I loved his music because it was my mother loved his music and I can remember

dancing in the kitchen with her, her throwing something at me and saying, hey, turn that song on again. I have really good memories of that. So I bought tickets to go see Rod Stewart. And I told my friend that I ride with, because he's going to go with me. I said, I may be having more moments where I'm crying, because these songs remind me of my

It's like, thank God you told me ahead of time because I was worried about you. This isn't like you to show a girl emotion while we're on the bike. So I'm excited to go and do that. It's in a couple of weeks. Maybe I can show them.

I think concerts for me, speaking of, know, when I hear songs on the radio or, you know, on a playlist of bands that I've seen and people that I've gone with, those are...

Also unforgettable moments like those take you back to being like, yeah, like that's crazy. And a lot of them too, like for me are good because it's like my son that went with my son to a bunch of stuff. So, you know, there's there's so many emotions in art, you know, like even pictures and I mean like paintings or or

TV shows or movies to like movies where there's a plot of a movie that reminds you of. Someone or something or a time and a place. There's a guy that I work with. He's 10 years younger than me and he matter of fact, we were born on the same day. His birthday in mind of the same. We were talking and then there's another friend of mine who were I work with. We were talking about like, you know, cool movies and.

You don't realize that some people may not have seen them. This guy is 10 years younger and he's never seen the breakfast club.

And and you know me and my buddy are trying to like tell him like this is a great film and blah blah blah and then I started thinking Although he's 10 years younger and he would get it Young people will not get that movie because there's no phones in it. They have to go to detention like it's it's such a movie based on a time period

Absolutely. And we grew up in... We really did grow up in an amazing time. And I know most people say that about their upbringing because it is different than it is now. Or whenever they're talking about it, it's totally a different world. But those movies of that time was very...

Where?

childhood.

reminiscent of how life was with everybody across the board it's such a I don't know it just kind of stops you because it it was definitely relevant but we lived it and we we enjoyed it like I don't know we just enjoyed it we just had fun with it we just took it all in those movies are hilarious though

Correct. And I think...

And they do make you think back to when you were young.

I also think that when people talk about like we grew up in the best times. Yes, it's it's really easy to to be the guy who says that that we did right. Although the 80s and 90s. Arguably are probably are the best times only because life. Was fast.

But it was simple. had, you know, like I couldn't imagine growing up in today's world. Everyone has a camera. Everyone, you know, information is so easy to get. It's there's just, there was no being, secretive or being under, you know, not under lock and key.

Like we had a great man. We could go out and literally our parents didn't want us home until after the lights went on. They were wondering why if I came home, they were wondering why. Like why are home? It's like, like that's so odd. Where now like parents, they got you like.

You are strapped in. can't go.

They got Life 360. You're never getting past anything. You're never gonna have secrets of your own because they know exactly where they're. Here's the flip side. You know where your parents are. And people would check, why are you over there? What are you doing? I'm like, your kids are asking you that? We could give a shit when we were younger, first off. And second of all, like...

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

parents didn't want to want to tell us what they were doing I remember my my parents used to say they were going to kookamonga to go bug hunting where are you going kookamonga what are gonna do bug hunting like that we they never told us where they were going or what they were doing and now kids are like you're going where why are you over at so-and-so's house

Right.

That's true. It's funny too, cause like me and my son, we share our locations. My son has never asked me why I was someplace. No, he doesn't give two shits.

Kids call their parents in front of me and say, why are you at the hair salon? Or why are you at lunch? Bring me home something. Are you kidding? You don't need to know where I am. I'm not bringing you home shit. Go do what you do.

Nah.

Yeah. Now my, my son will ask like, Hey, if you're out, you know, are you, or he'll, he won't, he'll just go, Hey man, you going to pick up anything on the way home? More like just asking, but he doesn't say like, you're near here. He knows better though, because like, if you did that with me, I would just shut down. I'd be like, no, I'm coming home. So don't. Yeah. So.

You're gonna eat whatever's in the fridge.

But you know, I don't mind if he goes hey if you're on your way home, are you gonna pick anything up? Because he also knows that I don't I'm not a big fan of like picking stuff up and bringing it home I'll just go no, but I'll come pick you up. We can go get some food Because I Yeah, but I mean but he also knows that like because if he's being lazy and doesn't want to leave the house I don't care. I like because I prefer like really hot food. I like my food to be

Yeah, so he just knows how to work you a little bit.

You know, hot. So I'm. Yeah, I'm I'm not a fan, so. And he doesn't care, which is really odd to me, so I tell him I go no, but and then he'll go OK, I'll I'll get ready. So. But you know.

I don't want to bring it home and have cold french fries. That's just not the way I'm doing it.

The thing that's getting, I think, with me, the older that I get, and I know that my son is going to leave here one of these days, is I found I was going through a bunch of boxes trying to just clean up things, right? Because when you live in a place for five years, you gather, but you also forget

to get rid of things that, so I'm kind of trying to get back on the, if you haven't messed with it in five years, go through everything and get rid of shit. But now that I know that he might be leaving within the next year, I've started going through things and finding things in boxes and now I'm making him a box.

that he can take with him and I found a key chain that my ex wife got me. It's a picture of us. It's like, you know where they engrave it. But it but it still looks like a picture. And man, he couldn't have been. I don't know one one and a half, maybe two.

And I found that I threw that in there and I'm you trying to but it like that's where I I'm starting to get emotional about that. I'm like, yeah, like one of these days he's going to be gone. And which I'm I'm I would love to say that I it's bothering me, but I'm kind of like I'm excited for him like I want him to. To.

experience life on his own.

Yeah, start his own life and not being under the thumb of Dad. Although I don't think he is. But, you know, I think it would be, you know, it'll be fun to watch that part of it, but I'm sure I'll be a tad torn.

Oh, it's going to rip your heart out. it's supposed to, you know, as parent, when your kids do leave, it's a huge, it feels like a huge hole in your heart because they were.

Yeah.

so interactive the whole time you were together and take up a lot of time and a lot of, you know, you put a lot of heart into it when you're raising your kid. Even now, you and him are really close and you do things and just getting them to go and eat with you, it's a big deal because that's the quality time. You're not sitting there on your phones, you're not sitting there like being pissed off or aggravated that they didn't do something, you're having dinner with them. So it's...

It's gonna be really hard when you don't have that to deal with anymore.

Yeah, and then, like, similar to you, then when I hear things or see things or, you know, my emotions will probably run very high.

yeah, for a while. And then you get used to having your own life and doing your own things and then, you know, hopefully when he comes to visit you guys just pick up where you left off and have fun but now you're dealing with an adult that moved and is growing and thriving and doing what they're supposed to do on their own. I mean, it's a good, it's a good,

Right.

It's a good thing, but it's also, it's the end of an era.

Right, and I think that's, you know, for someone who, you know, I'll put in air quotes, I was a single dad, you know.

But I was a real single dad. Like I had my son all the time. I never not had him. So for me, I think that I kind of get that, you know, I'm sure when you're a couple and your and your child moves out of the house, it's got to be gut wrenching for both. Because like now you're both going through an emotional time, you know, and and trying to balance these things out.

But it's also a time where you get closer, you know, because there isn't anybody in the middle of the relationship. you do, you come closer together because now it's just the two of you. And that part's fun. Yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense for sure. Yeah, and probably for someone like me who's single at the moment, but I will probably end up just diving into, you know, my hobbies. You know what I mean? Just diving more into that, like.

You know, mostly now, because I was telling you off the air before I get, I'm starting to get back into my photography thing. you know, it'll be an interesting time, you know, with the way life is going for both of us. You know, for people who don't really hear a lot of our extracurricular outside things, because, you know, even though we do talk about stuff, it's not.

Not really, you super deep, but man, we, know, with so many things happening in the world and just life moving and losing friends and all these different things. I'm big on, you know, living for the moment now and you definitely have to, you know, do your thing and enjoy yourself.

yeah. And here's the thing with it. Like I always have crafts going or things like I'm a basket weaver. I weave some incredible baskets.

Hmm, and a basket case. Sorry, you set yourself up. I know that.

in basket case on some occasions, but and the one that everybody comes to, so that's even worse, like everybody comes to me for advice and and you know my one friend says, well teen you've lived it so why wouldn't we? And that makes sense, but I am kind of a basket case at times, like crying on the on the road on my Harley, that's one of them. But anyway

No, that's true.

Right.

I got asked to take professional pictures with a photographer because they want to put my picture of me doing my baskets in the Museum of Natural History along with a basket from a person that wove it from the same tribe as I'm in now from the 1800s. So it's like, don't, you know, I don't half ass do things like crazy stuff comes from me

being me and doing what I do and and you know it's as you as you get into your what you do and stuff you're gonna have things where you're like wow I can't believe I did that or I can't believe this happened from that and you know and that

that brings on its own. always say like, it just stay like it is right now and not go anywhere? Because I really like where it is. But you know, life doesn't work like that. You go into so many different realms and do so many things. I've done so many things since being divorced. I never thought I'd ever do or even thought of doing. And it's funny because, you know, I when I'm excited, when I'm excited about it, I will call

Right.

Right.

my ex and say listen to this or I'll text him and say hey check it out this happened or that happened and you know it's it's again like emotions will just run I'm just grateful I could call my ex and do that like we could talk about stuff we share things we

You and and I'm so grateful but the funny thing is the emotion tied to it is call him like you need to tell him this is pretty cool this is something we worked on when we were married or This is something we did that started it all so you get to tell the rest of the story and and all those cool things and But the emotions are there to like I gotta call him like This is this is who I want to talk to still It's kind of a cool thing

It's a great thing. I think for people who don't have that, they're missing out. Yeah.

They're totally missing out.

because it's almost like when you're in a relationship you have stories going on there's things in your life that are running along with your relationship that you're dealing with or you're going through and then when you when you divorce everything just gets severed and it stops you don't ever get to hear the whole story or you don't get to have the whole experience and I've been grateful very grateful that we've been able to manage that to where we can share the the rest of the story we

can get to the end and talk about things and see it in perspectives that we wouldn't have had we blown up our whole situation and treated each other like shit. And that makes me emotional that we could do that, that we have that. We have a really good...

I don't know, we've had a really good divorce experience. And it's true, he's been on here. So it's not like I'm making this up. I don't know what I'm talking about because he feels the same way.

Well, I think that, you know, because emotions run wild with all of us. That you have, it's great when you have somebody that you can let those out to, you know.

Well again, it's like you gotta you gotta keep hold of your emotions you think that Divorcing somebody and then trying to be friends with them was easy. I don't even know where I got that damn idea I thought you know like who in the hell would have thought that we could have Some sort of friendship. That's that's it's very real. It's it's

It's not, you know, there's lines that we don't cross, but it's still a very real experience with him and he's still one of my very good friends. I call him for advice. Who says that about their ex? Yeah.

Not many. I mean not many at all.

I mean, it.

But again, if you work on your emotions and your experiences and you don't let your negative bullshit get the best of you, anybody could do it. Anybody could.

Yeah, I agree. I think that it's, even though it's difficult with some people from the past, I think that if you're an adult enough, can, you can make anything work.

Well, it doesn't matter how long you spent with a person, whether you dated, whether you took care of, you, whatever you experienced. Our experience comes from spending time in an art class. And we still haven't been able to get away from it. You are still my friend from that point. You know, it's like...

Right, exactly.

you have to think like these people are a part of your story do you keep them or do throw them away? there are people I've had to throw away and I want them to stay away they didn't feed my soul the way that they should the way I would have liked them to but yeah but here's the deal yeah they totally did they totally did

Absolutely.

Right.

Well, because they hit a different emotion. You know what I mean? I know that's a shitty way of putting it, but it's totally true.

And it doesn't make me want to go back to that, but they're still woven into my story.

Yeah.

They are the other side of that story. They're the precautionary tale

Yeah, they're the one I had to get over.

And we all have precautionary tales. Every single one of us has a precautionary tale. Because some... Yeah, well, trying to be nice. I think a lot of us have a shit ton of them. Look, there's a small group of people that belong in your life and there's a small group that belong out of your life. And then there's a bunch of them in between that are just woven into your story.

A? I've got a shit ton of them.

So, but I think it's, there's a lot more to what your emotional outbreak was. I think we all need those. More than we think. I think every bloom.

I think my ex was happy I had one.

Yeah, I mean look we we you have to sometimes listening to that song that you don't want to hear is the one that gets you pointed in a different direction and and or the the one that you know is reminding you of a dead friend and sometimes you have to hear that there's a song that I listen to that's

an old theme song of me and my old tag team partner and it's a gangster rap song because that's what we were the gimmick we were doing but every time I hear it it reminds me of the best of times with this cat and I listen to it just for I listen to it one time and then head off to the next direction but

Those are emotions and those are happy moments in a life that unfortunately was gone way too quickly. But it's also a big thing on my back to go, don't do the same thing.

My my exit passed away. went to his funeral But his sister was she said she saw something she sent me a

Mm-hmm, we did.

Tidbits on social media are real are real and it had songs on it from back when I was dating her brother and she said these are the songs that remind me of my my brother and Then I said, yeah, those are really good ones I remember we went here and we did this we went there and I had like the memories were there But then I go but this song reminds me even more of your brother and she's like, my god I'm sitting here crying. You're right

Sure, I mean, a real, okay, a real.

You're right, you love that song.

I gotta say I'm so grateful to still have her around to do that with because not a lot of people remember my boyfriend from when I was 16 17 18 years old like they don't remember him so I can I could tell the story to you and You see his face and you knew how we were so you get it, but how many people can I do that? There's not really that many You know again trying to tell the guy that I ride bikes with what what is

Exactly.

Yeah.

Correct, there's a very small amount.

happening he has no vision of what it is it's just Tina telling one of her stories and he says here we go a long-winded version of Tina's life you know and we we talk shit about that and but it's true like talking to her and having her

you know she's she's going through it so being there for her and and being there for me because he was a big part of my life it's kind of cool having her back you know it's like I got the little sis back you know this is great like it's over a really shitty situation that makes me so sad but here's the deal when I went to his funeral I couldn't cry I held everybody up and I was just like

I could hold my mud for the most part and that was a really hard day. And then we were celebrating his life in the same room that I got married in. It was an emotional day. I still didn't cry, but it was pretty emotional. I felt it.

quite humorous actually that she got married in a funeral in the same room.

I got married in the same room that my first real boyfriend had his celebration of life in. Like, who knew? Life is so crazy.

Yeah, it's, man, you can say that again. I think when you start looking at the reality of our lives and the things that come and go and then come back and then go and like all these different things that happen, it's amazing that we're not all blubbering idiots that, you know, talk to ourselves and, know.

It's a lot. But enjoy, enjoy your life. And and have emotions like these things are so important that there's a reason that our our subconscious and our and our memories and these things all come together with the simple thing of a simple song.

and it will trigger big memories.

Yeah, I love it. So, well What's the last word on this one there miss?

Wow, there's so many things. There's so many things. Live your life and hold on to whatever you can. Hold on to all the memories, because that's what makes you you.

Hmm.

Yeah, I totally agree and make sure that the memories you're making are are lasting. Whether it's a simple hello to somebody or you know, you don't know what a simple hello might do to someone's life.

It very, true. Hey, it's an opinion show, so don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. We are on Spotify and all those fun places you can listen to podcasts and I promise I'm going to try to do better with social media. I've been slacking. And. Come back every Wednesday. For Tina, I'm Rob and we will talk to you guys in a week. Bye.

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