Ep: 14 Top experts answer: "What, if anything, will significantly change accounting in the next few years?"
The Accounting Answers Podcast, hosted by Rob Brown, asks critical questions of the experts, leaders and influencers who shape the decision-making of accountants, CPAs and finance professionals. Today we ask:
What, if anything, will significantly change accounting in the next few years?
You'll hear insightful and passionate answers from these 5 experts and influencers:
Karen Chalmers | interVal's VP Marketing, helping firms grow revenue efficiently with AI
Kate Serpe | Former CAS leader and recovering accountant, current SIAP Partner Executive
Katie Thomas | Helping accountants stand out online and owner of Leaders Online
Ken Schmitt | Recruiter, Author, Podcast Host and Founder of TurningPoint Executive Search
Kevin Steel | Founder @ ClarendonFS: Fractional CFO & Strategy for B2B Service Companies
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:What's going to change
the accounting world.
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answers for today's topic.
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:Today, we're focusing on the evolving
accounting landscape and what's driving
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:transformative changes in coming years.
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:The rise of cloud-based accounting
software, the growing adoption
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:of artificial intelligence or AI.
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:The increased emphasis on data analytics.
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:These are just some of the forces in play.
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joined our experts and influencers.
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:As we decipher the changes that lie
ahead and our counselors can best
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:prepare to thrive in a fast moving world.
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:Let's hear it from current Charmaz
intervals, VP of marketing, helping
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:firms grow revenue efficiently with
AI, leveraging advanced analytics to
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:drive strategic marketing decisions
and foster sustainable growth.
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:Karen Chalmers: I think that there's
more than just, adopting a I there's
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:probably a bit of a rebranding of a I
that's required as well, recognizing that
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:it's had a bit of a difficult adoption,
throughout the industry, but I think that
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:it's going to be the thing that saves it.
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:So if we adopt a I tools, how do
we rebrand it within the industry
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:and within firms as a whole to
Address maybe some reservations
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:that clients have for us using A.
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:I.
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:And you can tell clients that you're using
tools that are better than everybody else.
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:that's a one way that you can say,
Hey, I'm using it, but it's making
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:me a better accountant because of it.
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:and you can rebrand yourself
in your firm as a forward
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:thinking future focused advanced.
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:firm within the industry, so showcasing
impressive tech stacks and rethinking
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:what AI integrations can do for
your firm and for your clients.
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:I think it's going to be one way
that the adoption of AI can be
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:Put a little bit more gently.
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:Rob Brown: Up, next is Kate SERP CPA,
an expert in client advisory accounting
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:solutions upon executive at Sage Intacct,
helping the count invent leverage.
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:The technology to drive,
practice growth and innovation.
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:Kate Serpe: I think there's a part of
me that feels like we've been hearing
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:about how AI and machine learning will
change the accounting game, right?
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:Literally, since I've been in the
profession, which is over 10 years
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:now, while we have seen little things
here and there, whether it's improving,
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:productivity with a good tech stack
or processes and procedures, I think
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:what's particularly different about
right now in this moment and the
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:next few years is that we're actually
going to continue to see a significant
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:decline in interest in this profession.
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:and I think more people are going to
keep seeking jobs in the tech space.
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:And so I think that's going to be
really interesting to watch, to see
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:how the tech space works to push more
into the accounting space, because the
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:accounting space is going to need it.
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:I just don't think people are
going to be as interested in
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:becoming an accountant anymore.
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:The pay's not there.
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:So hours aren't very
pleasant for a lot of people.
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:So I think it's going to be that decline
in interest in the accounting profession
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:and seeing how technology is going
to creep into the accounting space.
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:Rob Brown: John and the conversation
is Katie Thomas, helping the accountant
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:stand out online and the odor of
leaders online, where she combines her
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:expertise in digital marketing with
a deep understanding of accounting
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:to elevate freedom's online presence.
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:Katie Thomas: I think the first
thing is who is doing the work
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:and where it's being done.
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:We likely all know that accountants
are leaving the industry, CPAs
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:and accountants are retiring.
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:There are less.
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:accountants coming into
college to become accountants.
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:So overall, there are less accountants
that are going to be available to
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:work, which means that we're going
to have to rely more on technology.
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:I think that we're going to see
an increase in offshore labor.
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:The big firms have been doing this
for a long time, and now we're
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:seeing small firms catching on.
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:We're also going to have to fix
things like The working environments
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:so that we can actually start to
bring more people into the industry
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:and give them what they want.
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:Technology, of course, is
going to be a big change.
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:continues to advance.
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:We have the increasing use
of AI and machine learning.
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:So that's really big.
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:And I think that all of these together,
it's just going to create a big change
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:in our industry on a whole, but I think
it's going to create a lot of important
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:changes that people have likely wanted
for years, but there just hasn't been
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:a big enough pain to actually solve
them, whereas now it's like, Hey,
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:we have to change things and how.
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:The work is getting done so that we
can continue to be a profession in
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:the future because small businesses
and big businesses, they need us.
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:And we can't just simply
continue to do what we're doing
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:now because it's not working.
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:Rob Brown: And now insights from Ken
Schmidt, recruiter, author podcast,
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:host, founder of turning point executive
search offering a wealth of knowledge and
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:expertise in career development and talent
acquisition within the accounting world.
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:Ken Schmitt: Yeah, everybody is
talking right now about AI, right?
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:The two most used letters in any alphabet
these days is AI, which is crazy.
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:But there's a lot to be said about
how that's going to have a ripple
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:effect, throughout an organization,
not just in the technicality of
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:punching something into chat GPT.
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:But understanding what
does that mean, right?
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:You're going to have to have a better
understanding of how you can edit and
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:understanding what the tone is of whatever
that response comes back as right.
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:And beyond that, I think also the
technicality of what you offer
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:is not going to be unimportant.
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:But it's going to be a little bit
less important than the advising that
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:you're doing on behalf of your clients.
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:And again, the
collaboration there as well.
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:I also think that, going forward,
middle management is going to have
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:a completely different role, right?
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:And middle managers may be a little
bit less prevalent if you will, because
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:they're going to be less focused around
the tactical day to day things that now
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:any kind of AI or automation can do.
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to be mentoring and developing
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:and reviewing and supporting.
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:Really, they are staff internally and
then also advising up, into the higher
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:levels of the organization advising
about what trends are out there.
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:So that strategic mindset is going
to be extremely important, much more
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:so than the tactical knowledge that
they might have going into the role.
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:Rob Brown: We now turn to Kevin steel,
Foundry, Clarendon, Fs, fractional, CFO,
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leadership and insights.
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growth and other challenges.
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:Kevin Steel: I believe the biggest change
to accounting in the next few years, no
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:surprise, will be, uh, AI and automation,
uh, which will definitely free up the
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:back end work, so accountants will
turn more into the reviewers of work,
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:as opposed to the primary processors
of work, and chat GPT, et cetera, will
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:definitely help with technical and tax
queries, allowing management to focus on
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:higher level work, and by management, the
senior management of the accounting firm.
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:although tech and AI, are experiencing
rapid improvements, I would say about
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:50 percent of accounting firms still
don't leverage AI and technology
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:as much as they possibly can.
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:I believe this will change in future
though, because the exponential increase
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:in AI technology is going to basically
take over society, in my opinion, and
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:I think the uptake for the accounting
firm, will be a lot higher in the next
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:couple of years, and I expect that to
spread into different sectors also.
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:Rob Brown: So they have five
great answers to the question.
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:What, if anything will significantly
change accounting in the next few
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