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Episode 1421st March 2024 • Accounting Answers Podcast • Rob Brown
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Ep: 14 Top experts answer: "What, if anything, will significantly change accounting in the next few years?"

The Accounting Answers Podcast, hosted by Rob Brown, asks critical questions of the experts, leaders and influencers who shape the decision-making of accountants, CPAs and finance professionals. Today we ask:

What, if anything, will significantly change accounting in the next few years?

You'll hear insightful and passionate answers from these 5 experts and influencers:

Karen Chalmers | interVal's VP Marketing, helping firms grow revenue efficiently with AI

Kate Serpe | Former CAS leader and recovering accountant, current SIAP Partner Executive

Katie Thomas | Helping accountants stand out online and owner of Leaders Online

Ken Schmitt | Recruiter, Author, Podcast Host and Founder of TurningPoint Executive Search

Kevin Steel | Founder @ ClarendonFS: Fractional CFO & Strategy for B2B Service Companies

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Rob Brown:

Hi, I'm Rob brown and welcome you.

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Accounting finance professionals,

tech enthusiasts to the

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accounting answers podcast.

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We've embarked on a captivating

exploration of the future of accounting

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and its profound connection to the

ever-changing technology ecosystem.

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I think for a moment, how access to the

minds of a range of accounting experts,

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influencers, vendors, and leaders would

keep you super informed about what's

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going on in this wonderful profession.

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You'd stay relevant and future focused.

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You'd make better strategic

and career decisions.

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If you know what forces are in play

and what factors are driving change.

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To unravel the complexities

unenviable future of accounting.

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I've personally interviewed 111

leading accounting professionals, tech

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leaders, and industry influencers,

each bring in their unique.

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Expertise and insights to the

table and together we'll delve into

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the five critical questions that

will shape the accounting world.

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Through the eyes and minds of people

living their accounts in life.

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I'll talk into accountants every day.

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We'll talk about five critical topics

that ignite in passionate debates

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and stimulate minds across the globe.

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We're mapping the transformative

trajectory of the accounting profession

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and its symbiotic relationship

with the technological revolution.

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We'll be asking about the next

gen accountants, how far down

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the advisory line firms are.

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What's going to change

the accounting world.

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What their software vendors

and tech providers could do

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better to serve accountants.

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And what's coming up in the future.

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Let's get straight into the

answers for today's topic.

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Today, we're focusing on the evolving

accounting landscape and what's driving

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transformative changes in coming years.

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The rise of cloud-based accounting

software, the growing adoption

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of artificial intelligence or AI.

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The increased emphasis on data analytics.

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These are just some of the forces in play.

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There are plenty more so have

joined our experts and influencers.

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As we decipher the changes that lie

ahead and our counselors can best

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prepare to thrive in a fast moving world.

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Let's hear it from current Charmaz

intervals, VP of marketing, helping

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firms grow revenue efficiently with

AI, leveraging advanced analytics to

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drive strategic marketing decisions

and foster sustainable growth.

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Karen Chalmers: I think that there's

more than just, adopting a I there's

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probably a bit of a rebranding of a I

that's required as well, recognizing that

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it's had a bit of a difficult adoption,

throughout the industry, but I think that

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it's going to be the thing that saves it.

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So if we adopt a I tools, how do

we rebrand it within the industry

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and within firms as a whole to

Address maybe some reservations

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that clients have for us using A.

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I.

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And you can tell clients that you're using

tools that are better than everybody else.

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that's a one way that you can say,

Hey, I'm using it, but it's making

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me a better accountant because of it.

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and you can rebrand yourself

in your firm as a forward

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thinking future focused advanced.

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firm within the industry, so showcasing

impressive tech stacks and rethinking

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what AI integrations can do for

your firm and for your clients.

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I think it's going to be one way

that the adoption of AI can be

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Put a little bit more gently.

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Rob Brown: Up, next is Kate SERP CPA,

an expert in client advisory accounting

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solutions upon executive at Sage Intacct,

helping the count invent leverage.

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The technology to drive,

practice growth and innovation.

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Kate Serpe: I think there's a part of

me that feels like we've been hearing

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about how AI and machine learning will

change the accounting game, right?

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Literally, since I've been in the

profession, which is over 10 years

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now, while we have seen little things

here and there, whether it's improving,

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productivity with a good tech stack

or processes and procedures, I think

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what's particularly different about

right now in this moment and the

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next few years is that we're actually

going to continue to see a significant

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decline in interest in this profession.

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and I think more people are going to

keep seeking jobs in the tech space.

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And so I think that's going to be

really interesting to watch, to see

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how the tech space works to push more

into the accounting space, because the

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accounting space is going to need it.

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I just don't think people are

going to be as interested in

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becoming an accountant anymore.

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The pay's not there.

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So hours aren't very

pleasant for a lot of people.

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So I think it's going to be that decline

in interest in the accounting profession

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and seeing how technology is going

to creep into the accounting space.

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Rob Brown: John and the conversation

is Katie Thomas, helping the accountant

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stand out online and the odor of

leaders online, where she combines her

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expertise in digital marketing with

a deep understanding of accounting

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to elevate freedom's online presence.

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Katie Thomas: I think the first

thing is who is doing the work

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and where it's being done.

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We likely all know that accountants

are leaving the industry, CPAs

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and accountants are retiring.

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There are less.

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accountants coming into

college to become accountants.

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So overall, there are less accountants

that are going to be available to

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work, which means that we're going

to have to rely more on technology.

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I think that we're going to see

an increase in offshore labor.

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The big firms have been doing this

for a long time, and now we're

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seeing small firms catching on.

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We're also going to have to fix

things like The working environments

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so that we can actually start to

bring more people into the industry

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and give them what they want.

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Technology, of course, is

going to be a big change.

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continues to advance.

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We have the increasing use

of AI and machine learning.

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So that's really big.

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And I think that all of these together,

it's just going to create a big change

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in our industry on a whole, but I think

it's going to create a lot of important

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changes that people have likely wanted

for years, but there just hasn't been

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a big enough pain to actually solve

them, whereas now it's like, Hey,

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we have to change things and how.

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The work is getting done so that we

can continue to be a profession in

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the future because small businesses

and big businesses, they need us.

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And we can't just simply

continue to do what we're doing

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now because it's not working.

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Rob Brown: And now insights from Ken

Schmidt, recruiter, author podcast,

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host, founder of turning point executive

search offering a wealth of knowledge and

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expertise in career development and talent

acquisition within the accounting world.

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Ken Schmitt: Yeah, everybody is

talking right now about AI, right?

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The two most used letters in any alphabet

these days is AI, which is crazy.

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But there's a lot to be said about

how that's going to have a ripple

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effect, throughout an organization,

not just in the technicality of

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punching something into chat GPT.

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But understanding what

does that mean, right?

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You're going to have to have a better

understanding of how you can edit and

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understanding what the tone is of whatever

that response comes back as right.

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And beyond that, I think also the

technicality of what you offer

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is not going to be unimportant.

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But it's going to be a little bit

less important than the advising that

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you're doing on behalf of your clients.

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And again, the

collaboration there as well.

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I also think that, going forward,

middle management is going to have

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a completely different role, right?

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And middle managers may be a little

bit less prevalent if you will, because

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they're going to be less focused around

the tactical day to day things that now

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any kind of AI or automation can do.

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And instead their role is going

to be mentoring and developing

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and reviewing and supporting.

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Really, they are staff internally and

then also advising up, into the higher

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levels of the organization advising

about what trends are out there.

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So that strategic mindset is going

to be extremely important, much more

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so than the tactical knowledge that

they might have going into the role.

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Rob Brown: We now turn to Kevin steel,

Foundry, Clarendon, Fs, fractional, CFO,

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and strategy for B to B service companies.

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ProVantage strategic financial

leadership and insights.

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To help companies navigate

growth and other challenges.

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Kevin Steel: I believe the biggest change

to accounting in the next few years, no

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surprise, will be, uh, AI and automation,

uh, which will definitely free up the

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back end work, so accountants will

turn more into the reviewers of work,

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as opposed to the primary processors

of work, and chat GPT, et cetera, will

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definitely help with technical and tax

queries, allowing management to focus on

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higher level work, and by management, the

senior management of the accounting firm.

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although tech and AI, are experiencing

rapid improvements, I would say about

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50 percent of accounting firms still

don't leverage AI and technology

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as much as they possibly can.

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I believe this will change in future

though, because the exponential increase

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in AI technology is going to basically

take over society, in my opinion, and

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I think the uptake for the accounting

firm, will be a lot higher in the next

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couple of years, and I expect that to

spread into different sectors also.

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Rob Brown: So they have five

great answers to the question.

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What, if anything will significantly

change accounting in the next few

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years, every working day of the week,

Monday through Friday, we give you

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the insights of five top influencers

in the accounting world on this

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critical area of what is coming up.

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Change wise for accountants

that's 25 valuable perspectives.

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Viewpoints and best thinking every

week and with a fresh week comes the

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first question and more thoughts from

the best influencers and leaders we

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can find in the accounting world.

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Until next time, this is your host,

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