BB thought she was a Sagittarius. Paul pulls up the secondary progression chart and says not exactly — for 29 years you've been working on Capricorn energy. The devil card in tarot. Fighting the devil for 29 years. And on her birthday she's about to shift into Aquarius. The star card. The fight is over. Then the progressed moon — sitting in her second house of money value and self esteem for 26 months. Four months away from completing that cycle right around September 29th. Then the progressed moon sitting directly on top of her Chiron in December 2025. Something was healing during that time. The chart already knew. Know thyself and balance your energy.
Takeaways:
Secondary progressions show where your energy has been moving — you don't stay the same sign your whole life
Capricorn in tarot is the devil card — working on Capricorn energy for 29 years means wrestling with structure limitation and shadow
Shifting from Capricorn to Aquarius in the progression is moving from the devil card to the star — from fighting to shining
The progressed moon in the second house for 26 months activates deep work around money self worth and values
When the progressed moon sits on your natal Chiron healing happens whether you're ready for it or not
It rules Saturn rules Capricorn and it rules Aquarius, your 11th house of friends and your 12th house of ending, self undoing, unconscious, hidden things.
Speaker A:
That's hidden cancer connects to family.
Speaker A:
The fifth house is kids, hobbies, short love, relationships and creativity.
Speaker A:
Okay, so your Saturn is in detriment in Cancer when it, when it comes to the topics of friends and twelfth house endings, self undoing things, that's hidden.
Speaker A:
Right.
Speaker A:
So why did I ask you about:
Speaker A:
Well, it's two.
Speaker A:
Two things.
Speaker A:
Well, have you ever seen your sec.
Speaker A:
Have you ever heard of a secondary progress chart?
Speaker B:
No.
Speaker A:
Well, we progress.
Speaker A:
We don't.
Speaker A:
Just stay still.
Speaker A:
And so if I current.
Speaker A:
Well, I ain't gonna tell you where you're at currently.
Speaker A:
What if I say you're, you're not a Sagittarius, you've been working on Capricorn Energy, what would you say?
Speaker B:
I would say what?
Speaker A:
You know anything about Capricorns?
Speaker B:
You're gonna make me have a signed entity crisis.
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker B:
I love Capricorns.
Speaker B:
Capricorns get shit done.
Speaker B:
They are hard workers.
Speaker B:
They are focused.
Speaker B:
They are, they're, they're stable in their work.
Speaker B:
Work, work, work, work.
Speaker B:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Oh, does that sound like you?
Speaker B:
No, not at all.
Speaker A:
What if I ask some people who know you and they heard what you just not said?
Speaker B:
That's fun.
Speaker B:
I do work a lot.
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker B:
Yeah, probably.
Speaker A:
So your son has been progressing through Capricorn for a while.
Speaker A:
And you remember I pointed out this Saturn here in the house of lovers, Saturn likes to block.
Speaker A:
And your Saturn's at what, 18 degrees?
Speaker A:
You see that?
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker A:
, February, March of:
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You see this date over here?
Speaker B:
I do, I do.
Speaker A:
Your progressed son was at 18 degrees in a tug of war with Saturn in, in your house of lovers.
Speaker B:
Wow.
Speaker B:
You know what?
Speaker B:
My wife and I, I got married in April of that year, the very beginning of April.
Speaker B:
Like April 3rd and I had to go to California to get married, Paul, because we had, we didn't have marriage equality here in Mississippi.
Speaker B:
I had to go out to, to Palm Springs, California to get married.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
So the sun, the sun was right here in the opposition.
Speaker A:
Your progressed soon in Capricorn and the eleventh house of friends was in opposition to.
Speaker A:
Now, now watch this.
Speaker A:
Remember I said Saturn is in detriment in cancer, right?
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker A:
And 11th house is friends and groups we're connected to.
Speaker A:
So when you, at this time, when you said, hey, this is my lover, did you experience detrimental situations in the group you was already connected to?
Speaker A:
Yeah, as in, as in the groups you was connected to.
Speaker A:
The, the how you were talking about the.
Speaker A:
How the church and the people called around and, and yeah, yeah, that was all your connections and all of that.
Speaker B:
Stuff that happened in:
Speaker B:
But yeah, people that were close to me.
Speaker B:
Yes, that did happen right around that time.
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Would you, would you like me to tell you when you stop, when you started working on Capricorn Energy?
Speaker B:
Sure, sure, sure.
Speaker A:
All right, I'll tell you.
Speaker A:
It's actually probably one of those dates of sent to you.
Speaker A:
It was around:
Speaker B:
Okay.
Speaker B:
Yeah, that's right about the time I got my divorce.
Speaker B:
I was, I hadn't, I got pregnant when I was 16 years old and my father made me marry the baby daddy and we stayed married.
Speaker B:
That's about the time.
Speaker B:
That's about the time I divorced and went into drugs again.
Speaker B:
Yeah.
Speaker B:
Got real heavy into drugs after that.
Speaker B:
Real heavy.
Speaker B:
That was when I really dove into that, that underworld that my personal underworld.
Speaker A:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:
to:
Speaker A:
That would have been your Saturn return.
Speaker A:
That's when, that's when this Saturn here was really active.
Speaker B:
Yep.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
Speaker A:
Would you like to know where you're currently at now?
Speaker B:
Absolutely, yes, because I want to.
Speaker B:
And I have a quit.
Speaker B:
I have a, I have a very specific question for you because I'm having this retreat, this Akasha Nadi healing retreat in September, September 23rd through the 28th, and we are having a full moon in aries that on September 26, which.
Speaker B:
September 26 is the day five, 23 years later from the time that that happened, that Saturn returned.
Speaker B:
The lady touched me on my third eye.
Speaker B:
It's.
Speaker B:
It's 23 years later to the day and it is a powerful Full moon in Aries.
Speaker B:
And I would love to know what that's about because it's very significant to me.
Speaker B:
And I didn't.
Speaker B:
Did not do it on purpose.
Speaker B:
It's just how it landed.
Speaker A:
All right, well, if I.
Speaker A:
Well, if I take this away right now.
Speaker A:
Okay, this is your chart and add the current transit.
Speaker B:
Oh, wow.
Speaker B:
Okay.
Speaker A:
All right.
Speaker A:
You just had some.
Speaker A:
Yeah.
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20 Degrees.
Speaker A:
Your air.
Speaker A:
Yo.
Speaker A:
Chiron is at 20 degrees.
Speaker A:
All right.
Speaker A:
Where are you currently at now?
Speaker A:
Well, you.
Speaker A:
For 29 years, you've been working on Capricorn Energy.
Speaker B:
Wow.
Speaker A:
And you're see, 29.
Speaker A:
So on your birthday, you're about to shift into Aquarius.
Speaker B:
Oh, wow.
Speaker B:
Okay.
Speaker A:
Right.
Speaker A:
And so you might.
Speaker A:
You.
Speaker A:
You might actually.
Speaker A:
You're in a shadow and you might be starting to feel it, right?
Speaker B:
Yes,.
Speaker A:
A shift.
Speaker A:
Because when.
Speaker A:
When I.
Speaker A:
When the sun shifts with, there's usually like.
Speaker A:
I. I told you I brought you back the first time.
Speaker A:
When the sun shift from Sagittarius Aquarius to.
Speaker A:
To Capricorn, he was like, that's kind of right.
Speaker A:
When I jumped into Now.
Speaker A:
Now you're about to shift from Capricorn to Aquarius.
Speaker A:
Capricorn is the.
Speaker A:
The Devil card in, right?
Speaker B:
It is, it is.
Speaker A:
And so let's just say for 29 years, you've been fighting the devil and now you're ready to move.
Speaker A:
Like, the fight is over in a way.
Speaker B:
Nice.
Speaker B:
Oh, right.
Speaker A:
Now you move.
Speaker A:
Aquarius Energy.
Speaker A:
Aquarius is in the tarot deck.
Speaker A:
I think it's the star.
Speaker B:
It is the star.
Speaker B:
Yes.
Speaker A:
Do you feel like you.
Speaker B:
That's.
Speaker B:
That, that's.
Speaker B:
That tracks.
Speaker B:
Yes, it does.
Speaker B:
Yeah, it does.
Speaker A:
Right, and so let's just say when it comes to tarot, for the last 10 years, you've been dealing with.
