Shownotes
Imagine having a plan, a solid team, and the perfect tools to accomplish a goal. Part two of this interview takes you through that journey, exploring the intricacies of managing expectations between the client and the contractor.
We delve into the importance of equipping the next generation of technicians with good habits, a thirst for learning and a strong understanding of the importance of the blue-collar space. We emphasize the need for trade workers to strive for excellence, to become 'black belts' of their fields, and view their coworkers not as threats but as kindred spirits.
Highlights:
(2:57) - Why repetition at work helps you not only to create good habits but also helps you to become better at your craft.
(12:48) - Alex’s dream of buying land and creating a healing center.
(17:25) - Start with the end in mind.
Steve Doyle:
Brad Herda:
Alex Pauls:
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Transcripts
steve_doyle:
It is. So when we talk, you know, continuing down that road of setting expectations, right, all the, all those things that we've learned, what is the one thing or two things that you've learned throughout your time that you say these are the things I would really hope the next generation would learn.
alex_pauls:
Um... That's a good question. Like
steve_doyle:
That's
alex_pauls:
I said,
steve_doyle:
what we do.
alex_pauls:
passing on really good habits and killing off the old ways, just because they've been done for forever,
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
doesn't mean that they're the right way to do it, but
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
alex_pauls:
adapting and adapting good habits, adapting a real curiosity for learning. I think that's one of the big things is not just doing things for the sake of doing them, but adapting the curiosity, learning, and I think that that is actually a way bigger impact on technicians is not trying to learn so much all at once, but take those
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
Lego pieces and build them onto each other and and becoming a really well rounded technician and not. I'm a little bit guilty of this. I worked as a tech for about 11 years, 10 years, and I was so even when I was a like get out of the trades and get into the engineering.
steve_doyle:
and Yep
alex_pauls:
And don't I was gonna say don't
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
don't
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
be in such a rush because you you
steve_doyle:
you
alex_pauls:
are building such a foundation of knowledge that when you do move up
steve_doyle:
슈퍼스
alex_pauls:
into a supervisor role, you want to know you want to be a black belt as a technician, you don't want
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
alex_pauls:
to be some some guy that doesn't know anything and he became a supervisor because he was the the clown that would always get hurt or you know, You know what I mean? Like, you
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
alex_pauls:
don't want to be that guy that gets promoted for being so crappy at your job that they were sad. They, they're like, couldn't
steve_doyle:
Then
alex_pauls:
fire
steve_doyle:
they, like,
alex_pauls:
you.
brad_herda:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
steve_doyle:
yeah, they wouldn't fire you, so they just keep promoting
brad_herda:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
they're
steve_doyle:
you,
alex_pauls:
promoting
steve_doyle:
or they'd
alex_pauls:
you.
steve_doyle:
move
alex_pauls:
Yeah.
steve_doyle:
you into a safety role.
alex_pauls:
You don't want to be that guy. You don't want you don't want to be that guy.
brad_herda:
they
alex_pauls:
And
brad_herda:
become
alex_pauls:
everybody
steve_doyle:
Great.
brad_herda:
podcasting.
alex_pauls:
knows that guy, right?
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
alex_pauls:
So be curious, build on your foundation. You can
steve_doyle:
Thank
alex_pauls:
still
steve_doyle:
you.
alex_pauls:
level up your career. You have a long time. You don't want to prematurely jump out of it just cause an opportunity. It's usually
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
a red herring. Like for me, it was kind of a red herring when I left. I really wanted to get into the engineering
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
role, get into the office. And then I just found myself missing the challenges. I missed the guys that I worked with a lot. Like that was the hardest part for me was missing my brothers. Like there's a reason there's a brotherhood, right?
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
alex_pauls:
And that's another thing I would say to the next generation is those are your brothers and sisters, you know, there's a lot more female employees now too. These are your people, they're not your competitors. This is probably the best environment of work that you can have. These are people that have your back in an office environment. People are kind of, you know,
steve_doyle:
Just say it, say it.
alex_pauls:
They're zigzagging, they're trying to move ahead in their career. And as a technician, you know, yeah, maybe Jimmy got 10 more hours of overtime and that's probably your worst case scenario is some guy got some more overtime hours than you. But really,
steve_doyle:
Right.
alex_pauls:
you're all on the same team. You're, you are, what's
brad_herda:
Hey, you
alex_pauls:
that?
brad_herda:
know what though Alex? You know what Alex? If you actually did the fucking job in the time it was allotted,
alex_pauls:
probably.
brad_herda:
you wouldn't need the overtime. Says that, right? You wouldn't have four coffee breaks.
steve_doyle:
Hehehehe
brad_herda:
We would have got it done on time. We wouldn't need to worry about overtime.
alex_pauls:
We had a guy
brad_herda:
Just saying, I'm gonna be pretty obvious guys. You know, let's go. Let's go.
alex_pauls:
We had a guy that was so good at getting overtime. He actually, on a Friday afternoon, did a burnout in a gravel yard and buried his van so deep that he had to call in a tow truck, and he got three hours of overtime because his van had to
steve_doyle:
What?
alex_pauls:
get like pulled out. It was hilarious. He was the master of overtime. It was hilarious. So anyway, if you want some overtime, run your, oh, run your stereo all day with your key, not on just have the stereo going and then try and start your van at the end of the day. That'll get you a few hours over time when somebody has to come and give you a boost and get you out. So that's like a, that's a free, free tip.
steve_doyle:
Wow, free overtime tip.
alex_pauls:
Yeah.
steve_doyle:
Wow.
alex_pauls:
That's only if you have a government job
brad_herda:
Wow,
alex_pauls:
though, you
brad_herda:
there
alex_pauls:
know,
brad_herda:
we
alex_pauls:
private
brad_herda:
go.
alex_pauls:
private companies not going to appreciate that
steve_doyle:
No.
alex_pauls:
too much.
brad_herda:
No, not
alex_pauls:
Yeah,
brad_herda:
at all.
alex_pauls:
and you can only
brad_herda:
Not
alex_pauls:
do
brad_herda:
even
alex_pauls:
that
brad_herda:
close.
alex_pauls:
once because you don't want to be that guy that gets the rep for being the idiot with the radio on that needs to get boosted. Yeah.
steve_doyle:
Oh, there, and those guys do exist for
alex_pauls:
Yeah,
steve_doyle:
sure.
alex_pauls:
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope that helped.
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
alex_pauls:
I think that's some pretty good knowledge, right? Yeah.
brad_herda:
some knowledge drops, some Alex Ball's Canada knowledge
steve_doyle:
Mm.
alex_pauls:
It is
brad_herda:
drops.
alex_pauls:
amazing how much
brad_herda:
We can't ask
alex_pauls:
I
brad_herda:
for
alex_pauls:
missed
brad_herda:
much.
alex_pauls:
the people that I worked with and how I still actually communicate with them. And this is like, I probably haven't worked in the field for 10 years and I still communicate with a lot of those people. And...
brad_herda:
So let's ask the question, Alex. Here we go. We know that from episode one, you knew at some point in time, you wanted to be working with your bride and have a family business. So how do you get back into the trade space, field space, and give back all the things that you wanna see make an impact? How are you gonna do, what are you gonna do there to foster or to fuel that desire that still exists
alex_pauls:
So my
brad_herda:
inside
alex_pauls:
goal right
brad_herda:
of you?
alex_pauls:
now is with KP design, we have it built really good. The engine's running really well. The means to the end is we wanna buy a big piece of property and I wanna start getting back into construction and building multiple properties on that property to, we wanna build a healing retreat and this will help me bring in plumbers, framers, electricians, I can do the electrical myself too. myself.
brad_herda:
Maybe that's a code, maybe
alex_pauls:
It'll
brad_herda:
that's
alex_pauls:
be close.
brad_herda:
a code, but you could
steve_doyle:
It'll
brad_herda:
do
steve_doyle:
be
alex_pauls:
It'll
steve_doyle:
close.
brad_herda:
it.
alex_pauls:
be close. Yeah, it'll be like Waco, Texas kind of thing, you know, have our own compound. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
steve_doyle:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
brad_herda:
Thank you. Bye.
alex_pauls:
It's funny, that just showed up on Netflix. I'm like, man, I gotta watch that. I could be the next David Koresh. But,
steve_doyle:
HOO!
brad_herda:
Thanks.
alex_pauls:
uh, that, you know what? I really see myself in the future building again. I really like building with my hands. I like, I love electrical still. I feel that need where, It's like, okay, maybe not after a couple of really hard days. It's like, oh God, all I want to do is sit in front of my computer and do some easy SEO, Google ads stuff. Like, ah, so nice just to rest my old battered body. But you know, the builder in me, the electrician in me wants an excuse to get back into that. And that's going to be my excuse. So that's kind of the next phase of our life. We'll be building this and then running that business and growing it. and I'm really excited about that and that'll get me a chance to hopefully connect with some of the guys that I used to work with. If I could like bring them in to work with me again, that would be a pretty neat gift I could give myself. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this. I'm gonna go ahead and get my hands on this.
brad_herda:
They're older now and they're more expensive.
alex_pauls:
That's true, but they're not as useless as they were when I first had them as my trainees, so.
steve_doyle:
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brad_herda:
So when you share
alex_pauls:
Right,
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
brad_herda:
this with them,
alex_pauls:
yeah,
brad_herda:
they can hear
alex_pauls:
no,
brad_herda:
that.
alex_pauls:
they know
brad_herda:
Perfect,
alex_pauls:
I love them.
brad_herda:
great. Great. Yeah, I really love you guys. Really trust me. I just said
alex_pauls:
Yeah.
brad_herda:
that for effect on the show.
alex_pauls:
Yeah,
brad_herda:
And it
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
brad_herda:
really, really,
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
alex_pauls:
we
brad_herda:
yeah.
alex_pauls:
all know how useless we are when we first start, right? We're just... We have
steve_doyle:
Okay.
alex_pauls:
to take it with a grain of salt.
brad_herda:
I'll listen to episode one of this show.
alex_pauls:
Well, there you
steve_doyle:
Right.
alex_pauls:
go. You get better and better
brad_herda:
Wait.
alex_pauls:
as you do things. It's all Lego. It's all Lego, Brad.
brad_herda:
Factors
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
brad_herda:
and ball bearings.
alex_pauls:
Yeah.
steve_doyle:
Absolutely.
brad_herda:
No big deal.
steve_doyle:
Absolutely.
alex_pauls:
You win.
brad_herda:
You got
steve_doyle:
I
brad_herda:
something
steve_doyle:
don't
brad_herda:
there Steve,
steve_doyle:
know if I
brad_herda:
I
steve_doyle:
do
brad_herda:
can see
steve_doyle:
or not.
brad_herda:
it.
steve_doyle:
My head's spinning right now.
brad_herda:
No, you do, because what we're gonna do is we're actually gonna splice this into two episodes because
steve_doyle:
Perfect.
brad_herda:
Carrie's gonna love this.
steve_doyle:
Perfect.
brad_herda:
Is what I'm thinking, because we're way over
alex_pauls:
Who's
brad_herda:
our
alex_pauls:
Carrie?
brad_herda:
time here, so.
steve_doyle:
She's our...
brad_herda:
Carrie Lubing,
alex_pauls:
Oh,
brad_herda:
who's
alex_pauls:
okay.
brad_herda:
our podcast producer.
alex_pauls:
Man, where are we gonna splice this thing?
brad_herda:
You know, Carrie.
steve_doyle:
Oh, you know, halfway back.
brad_herda:
That's not, you know what? Somewhere in the middle, somewhere. Take bits
alex_pauls:
You're
brad_herda:
and
alex_pauls:
gonna
brad_herda:
pieces,
alex_pauls:
cut
brad_herda:
do different
alex_pauls:
my
brad_herda:
things. And that's
alex_pauls:
mask
brad_herda:
it.
alex_pauls:
rant out, aren't ya?
brad_herda:
I'm not cutting anything out
steve_doyle:
Hehehehe
brad_herda:
because I'm no longer
alex_pauls:
Ha ha ha!
brad_herda:
doing any of the editing. I used
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
brad_herda:
to there was well the Cory show we cut Cory's out. I did that when we asked Cory some,
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
brad_herda:
some generational
alex_pauls:
nice
brad_herda:
things. He got a little off
alex_pauls:
Well,
brad_herda:
for
alex_pauls:
I'm
brad_herda:
us,
alex_pauls:
thinking
brad_herda:
but that's okay.
alex_pauls:
by now the old generation
brad_herda:
But
alex_pauls:
is kinda
brad_herda:
I can.
alex_pauls:
out of here already, right? Like it would be like me, like I would be the
brad_herda:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
old
brad_herda:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
technician. You don't think so? Oh
steve_doyle:
No,
alex_pauls:
my goodness.
brad_herda:
No,
alex_pauls:
There's
steve_doyle:
no,
alex_pauls:
some Joe
brad_herda:
no,
alex_pauls:
Biden's
brad_herda:
not even
alex_pauls:
out
brad_herda:
close.
alex_pauls:
there still hanging
steve_doyle:
yes,
alex_pauls:
on to the...
steve_doyle:
yes
alex_pauls:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
steve_doyle:
Yes!
brad_herda:
You just want to keep pushing that political button.
steve_doyle:
Yes!
brad_herda:
Don't watch all the different candidates
steve_doyle:
Oh!
brad_herda:
that's sitting up there all happy and just nothing.
alex_pauls:
It's like watching Weekend at Burnies every day in
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
alex_pauls:
America.
brad_herda:
And that's it. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side. I'm going to go back to the other side.
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Bye.
brad_herda:
The guy that wasn't sure if he could get across the border and back
alex_pauls:
Oh
brad_herda:
into
alex_pauls:
my goodness,
brad_herda:
his country
alex_pauls:
seriously,
brad_herda:
or not.
alex_pauls:
how are we picking these people? Like, I don't think people...
brad_herda:
Stop! Stop! Again!
steve_doyle:
You know,
alex_pauls:
Hey, we got
brad_herda:
Stop!
steve_doyle:
I
alex_pauls:
problems
steve_doyle:
think it's
alex_pauls:
here
steve_doyle:
a lottery.
alex_pauls:
in Canada too. We got big problems.
steve_doyle:
I think it's like the Wheel of Fortune. You
alex_pauls:
Thank
steve_doyle:
just
alex_pauls:
you.
steve_doyle:
spin something and that's how it's determined.
alex_pauls:
Well, I mean, it's like they take the trashiest of the trash bags and it's like, okay, you're gonna lead the country. It's like, wow, because no good people want to do it, right?
steve_doyle:
Great.
alex_pauls:
Damnit,
brad_herda:
Next topic,
alex_pauls:
Brad.
brad_herda:
let's move on. What's the next? I know.
steve_doyle:
Come on, Brad, this is fun.
brad_herda:
I know.
alex_pauls:
listening.
steve_doyle:
Tchau!
brad_herda:
No, no, no,
alex_pauls:
On the
brad_herda:
we're
alex_pauls:
next
brad_herda:
not a political
alex_pauls:
episode,
brad_herda:
show.
alex_pauls:
I'm coming back. We're going to talk Flat Earth the entire time, just so you know.
steve_doyle:
Yeah, flat earth. Yes.
alex_pauls:
And I'm not even kidding.
steve_doyle:
I want to
brad_herda:
Awesome.
steve_doyle:
talk flat earth and how dishwashers
brad_herda:
All right.
steve_doyle:
are just ruining the environment.
alex_pauls:
Oh, that's it. I never thought of that.
brad_herda:
Stop all right. All right, we're gonna
alex_pauls:
No,
brad_herda:
we're gonna
alex_pauls:
Brad,
brad_herda:
end
steve_doyle:
So
brad_herda:
this
alex_pauls:
it's okay,
brad_herda:
this chaos
alex_pauls:
I'll
steve_doyle:
I did
alex_pauls:
be
steve_doyle:
have
alex_pauls:
good.
steve_doyle:
a
brad_herda:
right
steve_doyle:
question.
brad_herda:
now,
steve_doyle:
I did have
brad_herda:
right?
steve_doyle:
a question.
brad_herda:
All
steve_doyle:
No.
alex_pauls:
Yeah, hit me with it.
steve_doyle:
No.
brad_herda:
right, then ask your question
steve_doyle:
So you had mentioned about bringing in plumbers and different trades to do like a retreat thing. So give us your idea like how would that look? If you were to do that tomorrow, what would it look like? And how would we encourage the trades to come to something like that? And so that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do that. We're gonna do that. We're gonna do that.
alex_pauls:
Well, as I was leaving my career, I was gearing up to be a project manager. So I feel like this task that I'm going to do will be kind of completing that fate is
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
alex_pauls:
me forcing myself to become that project manager because I know that I'm actually really good at that. I wouldn't necessarily want. I mean, part of me would want to do all of it, you know, get my hands in there and just say like, oh, it was me. I totally did it. But. the the wise man in me, the older guy in me knows that I can do 10 times more with some great people around and that
steve_doyle:
Mm-hmm.
alex_pauls:
that would be the wisdom that I would have to you know assemble the Wu Tang clan of trades and we would
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
We would assemble like Voltron Brad you remember Voltron
steve_doyle:
YEAH!
alex_pauls:
and and we could combine our our strengths and make make something incredible and I was talking about this today with actually beginning with the end in mind. So I would have to make sure that the entire plan is done and then as a good project manager do it in phases. And that's basically how I would get it done. That would be the smart guy in me. The
steve_doyle:
Right?
alex_pauls:
youngster in me would just like buy the land and then just start with one little thing with no plan at all, right? Just kind of just shoot from the hip. But the old man in me would be just make sure I have everything.
steve_doyle:
Well, you already have the end in mind. You already have it built.
alex_pauls:
It's up here. I just gotta find that property.
brad_herda:
you You just gotta get your wife to understand that she doesn't see the whole vision
alex_pauls:
This
steve_doyle:
Hmm.
alex_pauls:
is
brad_herda:
that
alex_pauls:
our
brad_herda:
you have
alex_pauls:
idea.
brad_herda:
in your head,
alex_pauls:
This is a
brad_herda:
right?
alex_pauls:
this is totally me and her. She really wants
brad_herda:
Yeah,
alex_pauls:
you to see
brad_herda:
I know. I know it's you and her, but if you're the GC, your vision and her vision may not
alex_pauls:
That's
brad_herda:
be identical.
alex_pauls:
true.
brad_herda:
And just a little tip, just a little tip. If you're the GC and she's the client, as an example, just be careful that you make sure you understand your relationship
alex_pauls:
Thank you. Thank you.
brad_herda:
is when you're the GC and when you're the husband,
steve_doyle:
Something
brad_herda:
because
steve_doyle:
wrong.
alex_pauls:
Well.
brad_herda:
you may want to go to the next place, right? You might, because sleeping with your clients
alex_pauls:
Oh, that's funny. Ha
brad_herda:
idea.
alex_pauls:
ha ha ha! Then I'm disappointing her on two levels.
steve_doyle:
That should be the name of the show, Sleeping with Clients.
alex_pauls:
Yes. I always joke that I'm only good with disappointing one woman. I can't disappoint more than one, so.
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Bye.
alex_pauls:
So, but if she becomes
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
alex_pauls:
the, no, she's not the client. I'm the rough, I'm the rough and she is the, she makes things beautiful. She, you know, like I can frame something
steve_doyle:
Mm.
alex_pauls:
and then she can make the inside incredible. And that's her gift. You know, I can work with her, plan it out, make these spaces and then she makes them beautiful. I know where my limitations end and her strengths begin and vice versa. So, yeah, no, but that's a good point, Brad.
brad_herda:
and you're still working at KP
alex_pauls:
Exactly.
brad_herda:
Design. That's impressive.
steve_doyle:
Yeah.
alex_pauls:
I haven't burned that bridge yet.
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Bye.
brad_herda:
Thank you. Bye. All right, so I know you shared this last time, but if there are some young electricians or some high voltage folks or even an aspiring high school student that wants to talk about high voltage or high energy type work or the things, how are they going to get a hold of you? Where do you hang out? What rooms you're in? Where do people find you so that those conversations can happen? Because I know you are going to be more than happy to give yourself with somebody that wants to get into a trade, into a opportunity. And sometimes a young person just needs that, not their parent, not their teacher, not their aunt, not
alex_pauls:
Yeah,
brad_herda:
their uncle.
alex_pauls:
I think the easiest way it would be to like DM me on LinkedIn. I'm in there and you can always go to our website kpdesign.ca Even if you don't need a website and you just want to get in contact with us. That's that's a great way to find me kpdesign.ca And yeah, it's you know what I really recommend the trades to people it helped me It helped me a lot when I was young and I mean I got married this is embarrassing to say but when I got married and we moved into our apartment I didn't even know how breakers in a house worked. That's pretty sad to be a 20 year old guy that's married and like what do these things do like that's the bearer thing you
steve_doyle:
Dad,
alex_pauls:
know.
steve_doyle:
the power went out. What do I do?
brad_herda:
Well, at least you had breakers.
alex_pauls:
knobs.
brad_herda:
You didn't
alex_pauls:
Yeah.
steve_doyle:
but dials.
brad_herda:
have the screw
alex_pauls:
But
brad_herda:
in
alex_pauls:
but for the
brad_herda:
fuses.
alex_pauls:
company
brad_herda:
The six-in-one.
alex_pauls:
that hired me to see the stuff that I didn't even see in myself, like that diamond in the rough thing. I was always grateful for that. And that was probably the hardest thing in my heart when I did walk away was am I being grateful for, you know, am I am I being ungrateful for leaving when it was when it really was time to leave and go do my own thing? But because you you build up this brother you build up these relationships and it is a gift for your life to have this foundation of people that are with you and they're not backstabbing you. They are part of your team. You help protect them, they protect you, especially in dangerous situations like firefighters, police, electricians, what have you. It's an amazing thing to be part of something like that and I don't think that gets I think everybody just wants a paycheck. You know, me, when I went into engineering my first year, I didn't even know what I wanted. Like I was like, oh, I'll be an engineer. I just want to make money. And then when I realized, oh, I'm gonna have to sit at a desk all day. I don't think I want to do that. And then I went to college and got the trade. And I'm like, yes, this is great. For somebody like me, I get to, my real superpower is working with people, interacting with people. The job is kind of that secondary thing. I love the people more than the actual job. Like I can remember certain jobs because of the people that I worked with on those jobs, not that, you know, unless something blew up or was on fire, you know, it's, I think it's a huge gift in this day and age, especially after, you know, being in isolation for two years to become, you know, get out of high school and become part of a brotherhood really, you know Work with people and work together towards something Bigger than yourself that that's huge and the trades will do that. You know, like I said firefighters police. It's It's an amazing it's an amazing thing to be part of a team
brad_herda:
completely
steve_doyle:
Yes.
brad_herda:
agree. Mr.
steve_doyle:
No,
brad_herda:
Doyle,
steve_doyle:
that
brad_herda:
you
steve_doyle:
was
brad_herda:
got anything else to add?
steve_doyle:
excellent put. Excellently put.
brad_herda:
I think that is a good spot for us to drop off here because this could go on for two more hours otherwise
steve_doyle:
Thank you.
brad_herda:
because
steve_doyle:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
brad_herda:
Alex has that much more banter in him. So, Alex, I wanna thank you again for A, reaching out and saying, hey, I'd like to come back on the show. B, sharing some of your vision and passion and letting us see a little bit inside of where you want to go and what you wanna do instead of just talking shit the entire time. But thank you for sharing some of your true insights and opportunities. And as always, you are our number one,
steve_doyle:
Number
brad_herda:
Canadian
steve_doyle:
one, number
brad_herda:
guest.
steve_doyle:
one.
alex_pauls:
I can't wait to come back again. I had fun.
brad_herda:
You will own...
steve_doyle:
Oh, there's
brad_herda:
He's
steve_doyle:
gonna
brad_herda:
thinking
steve_doyle:
be
brad_herda:
there's
steve_doyle:
a third
brad_herda:
a third
steve_doyle:
time.
brad_herda:
time, holy
steve_doyle:
I got
alex_pauls:
trilogy
brad_herda:
shit.
steve_doyle:
something queued up for that.
alex_pauls:
the trilogy
steve_doyle:
I gotta queue it
brad_herda:
Oh
steve_doyle:
up.
brad_herda:
great, awesome. Perfect, that's spectacular. So again, thank you so much Alex for your time today and we look forward
alex_pauls:
Thanks
brad_herda:
to
alex_pauls:
guys.
brad_herda:
talking to you again soon. I'll see you next time.
steve_doyle:
All right, yeah, thanks Alex.