In this podcast recorded before the UK government ditched the idea of developing its own NHSX track-and-trace app, three experts join Hodgeythehack to chat about how the state of play was a month ago – when the government was going full steam ahead with developing the technology.

Digital Bulletin CEO Romily Broad explains how it would've worked, whilst OpenUK CEO, Amanda Brock, and Jonathan Martin, partner director at cybersecurity firm Anomali, debate the positives and negatives, the potential benefits and the major concerns around the NHSX app. Part two, coming later this week, will feature reaction to the decision to stop development.