Edith and Teri discuss summer plans and share book recommendations, including Heather Walter’s Malice and Misrule, a duology retelling the Maleficent–Aurora story from Alice/Malice’s first-person perspective with romantic elements and multiple twists. They talk about how strong writing helps readers “become” a character regardless of narration style and how state of mind affects immersion. Edith describes teaching One Of Us Is Lying by Karen M. McManus, its shifting viewpoints, and creative student assignments such as a funeral letter from the deceased and a school newspaper article, plus flash fiction work in English as a foreign language. The conversation shifts to publishing advice: revising multiple times, letting manuscripts rest, using tools like Autocrit, and the value of editors. They also cover author visibility and marketing—podcasting, consistency, avoiding overwhelm, marketing the author brand rather than a single book, and starting platforms early in a saturated market.

00:00 Welcome and Summer Plans

00:47 Fantasy Duology Pick

03:49 Becoming the Character

04:51 First vs Third Person

08:52 Teaching a Mystery Novel

10:58 Creative Test Assignments

14:00 Flash Fiction in ESL

16:03 Learning Languages and Dreaming

21:27 Editing Before Publishing

26:29 Editors Make Books Better

31:48 Description vs Story Pace

41:26 Interview for Story Impact

43:32 Visibility Book Origins

44:44 Podcasting For Exposure

47:19 Avoid Marketing Overwhelm

51:25 Market Yourself Not Books

53:39 Start Early Stay Consistent

55:14 Branding With Thumbnails

01:00:23 Podcast Guest Confidence

01:06:21 Finding Readers In Saturation

01:12:45 Reading Like A Writer

01:18:38 Writing Reality And AI

01:21:15 Closing Thoughts Farewell

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