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And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

I'm good now that I'm here Rob. That was quite the drive to get here today. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm here. I did it.

Yeah.

So said crazy crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just tired. It's it's been a long week and it hasn't even been a long weekend. It's yeah, it's like one of those when I'm just like, holy shit, can this day? You know, we could get by any quicker and then it's supposed to rain this weekend. Yeah, like Saturday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, I think it said. So, yeah.

It's only Tuesday.

Yeah.

calls.

great, it ruins my plans for riding this weekend.

I guess Saturday's like well at least where I live 90 % chance. Yeah, well now Monday's now Monday's clean, so it's just supposed to be of course the weekend. You know the days were off. Good times. hey, I I sent you some some crazy topics as always and and and you pick this one which I think is actually. Pretty cool considering we're kind of in a.

Hails.

Yeah, great.

You

We

middle ground of like, you know, Gen Xers are this weird thing because like we got the internet first, but we really, you know, got it, but we're just a welling it and yeah, we a well and we had we chatted with people, but that was really about it, right? You know, we couldn't download anything because we didn't have speeds. So like pictures took one picture to fucking 40 minutes. So so we we really didn't have that part of it, but the the

They fine-tuned it.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

The title is the weirdest things in modern culture that we just accept now.

And the internet's definitely there.

Yeah, and I that's kind of part of most of these things we're going to go over. They all kind of connect to the Internet and or cell phones, because I just think that look, we evolved, right? We. We came from, you know, film cameras to digital and now a digital camera to your phone. Your phone does everything. Yeah, it's funny, I sent a picture of me.

from pagers to the phone.

from a wrestling show a bazillion years ago and there I actually have a pager in my pocket or on my. Yeah, my pocket. I was like whoa, because I was looking at like what's this blue thing and I was like my goodness. It's a pager. I was like wow and my friend was like that was before me. I was like yeah right like crazy.

On your bucket.

Yeah. My phone number is my old pager number. It transferred over. So I don't think I've ever had another, I know I haven't had another phone number for my cell phones or my pagers from back in the day.

wow.

Yeah, Pager, think I probably, don't remember that far back, but I do know that my cellular phone number is the only cell phone number I've ever had. So, and I think that was like 90, 94 maybe? 93, 94, 95, somewhere around there.

Yeah.

Seems about right.

Yeah, and it's funny because most of the people who had the same service it all starts with the same prefix So it's like we all got this batch of numbers that were available then pretty crazy here i'm gonna throw a couple of these out. I want to kind of see what you think the first one I I don't think we Do it as much but I do know people who do it says Talking to ai like it's a real person

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah, that's just crazy pants right there. I don't do that at all.

I know I know people who talk to it for advice and therapy legitimately. Yeah, legitimately. Yeah. Yeah, but I look, I think we all need friends, but I think this person in general. I think that there is something to it. To a degree. It will never replace people, but I think that.

Stop! You know people? my god, tell them they need to get a friend.

You know, on an algorithm standpoint, if you go, hey, I'm having problems with my girlfriend because of this, what do you think I should do? It's going to search the internet for a bazillion real topics on web pages and it's going to give you advice based on an algorithm. So yeah, don't talk to it like it's a real person, but definitely it's going to give you information that is on the web anyway. You know what I mean? But I do find it.

Yeah, I know what you mean and I'm not buying into that. You know, we're losing because we have all these things. We're losing connection. We're losing physical contact with people and that is going to make more mental illness and more problems than what everybody's got right now. I don't think that shit's good. Well, can it?

that what everyone already has now.

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse, let's drop AI into it.

No, know that. What a great way of putting it, though, because I think that that is kind of true, right? This the I don't even think it's a stigma anymore. Like young people, they say like a very high percentage of them have some kind of mental illness. And that could be ADHD. It could be, you know, it could be all these different things.

Well that's because everybody needs a title under their name.

Yeah, right. I agree. Part of that says something that's kind of interesting. It says, this connection or is it convenience? I think it's just convenience to myself. Talking to AI is just convenient. If you're using it for therapy, I think that there's probably a bigger problem. But like I use AI for the show now because I find it

For sure.

I know I don't like it just so you know.

Right, but I think it's a way of at least getting to a certain thing where... Yeah, so I think there's something to that. And then it says, does it replace human interaction or enhance it? I think it doesn't replace human interaction. Nothing will ever replace that. At least not during our...

It's getting ideas for sure.

Mm-mm.

Lifetime I think look robots are coming. They're already being manufactured in other countries like real robots that have an AI and they talk to you and That's a whole other issue. I think Once we get there, it doesn't matter mankind is doomed anyway Once we get to like people just having robots as a companion that we're doomed

Mm-hmm.

that the whole species is doomed and it won't matter because we won't last very long. You know, we'll stop having human interaction, which means we'll stop having babies. We'll stop having babies. Then there'll be no young people to pick food or make things and then we'll all die out. So, but I think that's a very long time away to where we'll have something true like that. Oh.

right?

Makes you wonder though watch enough of those Terminator movies

Absolutely, that absolutely that is 100 % correct. And just think, I think I forgot what year Terminator was made, but it was like the 80s.

It was in the 80s and they talk about 2032 I think it is. I just saw it the other day but it's a date that's coming up.

They

That shit was way ahead of its time and truly got it that machines will take over. If we let them, obviously. I mean, I think at some point if it ever gets crazy enough, we'll pull the plug on AI. It'll just be, and it'll just turn off.

Mm hmm. On point.

Yeah.

I would hope so. I would hope that there's a plug to pull.

I mean, yes, I hope there is as well. totally hope there is. This is an actual fact and without a doubt, and we all do it. Filming everything.

I actually don't do that.

No, I'm society. I'm talking about society. Like, I think we do to a degree, everyone, but like society in general is just like...

yeah. yeah.

Even emotional stuff like these people, like it says here, it says crying on camera, breakup videos, a day in my life content. Like everyone's life is some kind of content and, and I see it. I've watched Tik Tok shit to where it just makes me want to Yeah. Like seriously, it's like these people that are like, it's a day in my life. And then like two videos later, they're like, I got fired for posting a day in my life video. It's like, yeah, you moron.

Hmm.

No. I see I don't watch that stuff. really in the beginning when when cell phones first took off in the internet and everything was part of it. I admit that I probably did a lot more texting than I needed to or looking on the internet. But over the years, I've just decided that that wasn't how I wanted to be. And that's not how I wanted to be around my friends and my family. So I don't like on Easter. I didn't pick up my phone all day. I

I it go. I used it in the morning because I needed a timer and then and then I didn't use it till after all the dishes were done and everybody went home. I didn't even pick it up. I forgot to take pictures. It didn't occur to me to do that. I don't care to post because I don't want anybody that's not with me knowing what I'm doing. It's none of their business. And you know, if you want if you want to know be there because I've always had an open door policy. So I don't know. I just don't care. And

Taking pictures of food drives me crazy. It's like I hate that anyway because you can't eat the food It's a picture. You can't even smell it. I mean, why don't they fix it so that we could do that? smell-o-vision But yeah, so I don't know to me the phones are just it's lost its its Luster when it comes to me

Right.

Smell-O-Vision.

Here's here's something part of that that I think is very true probably not as much in our generation But it says there's a line between authentic and performance and I think that that's a hundred percent true like there's Which one is it? I mean even if you're being authentic, I think that there's performance in that You know and be being a former pro wrestler where my whole thing was to be performative

Hmm.

Mm-hmm.

you know, when there was nothing authentic, with, I mean, a hairline of being authentic. But, you know, like, it's true. And then it says, are we experiencing life or are we just documenting it? We're documenting it. No one, I think a lot of people aren't experiencing life and that's sad.

Well, they're not in the moment for sure because if you're stopping to take pictures, so you have a moment You've missed the moment that was right in front of you. So I don't know to me it seems like if you if you could Go in and out of the world's like that where you're actually a part of it versus, know Documenting it or taking pictures or doing whatever you're doing to it and posting it I guess posting it's the worst because if you're supposed to be somewhere doing something with somebody

Wait till later to post. You know, but I don't know, wait till later to pick up the damn thing and enjoy your day.

Concerts I've been to many concerts People just sit there and film it the whole time I might I might film something and post it quick, but I still want to watch the band or You know, whatever you're going to see

I hate that.

Yeah, you know, I can't tell you how many concerts I've been to and nobody knows. Because I've, even over COVID, we were going to concerts. So we had to stay in our car and watch it from our car, but it didn't matter.

What do you think that here's the the thing with this one. It says, which I don't think is is right in the world. Oversharing is now normal.

Like.

Well, if you put your shit out there for everybody to see, then you're gonna have a bunch of people critiquing it. If that's how you want to live, feel free, but I'd rather them not know.

Yeah, and look, I mean, I would be I would be hard to say anything because we do this, but I still think it's within reason. Right. There's.

Yeah, but we don't post this to where we're pushing it on somebody where they, you know, they have to see it. They... Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

where they scroll past it. make a decision to listen to this. Right, I agree with that. But it's like people trauma dump online like all the time now.

I didn't even know that was a word, trauma dump, or a phrase, trauma.

She had trauma dumping is what it says. And TikTok, you know, look, and it could be just because I've watched a video and it took me into, you know, TikTok hell, but I mean, the stuff that I see, man, it's...

It's so anti-men and so anti-relationship, I need to reset my algorithm because it's driving me to a place where I'm just like, my goodness, it's crazy. And part of that is it's like relationship details for public consumption. You're right, it's a bit much if you're scrolling through.

a timeline and now it's like everybody's just giving, know, we've made everyone an influencer. Everyone thinks they're an influencer or they're a brand or something to that. It's like, it says privacy feels outdated and I think that that's a hundred percent true.

That's okay, let it be outdated and I'm gonna keep mine.

Right. I like I said, I mean, I say a lot of things on here, but I'm still but I'm still guarded. Like there's things that I won't say or

We do.

very much so.

We don't use anyone's names.

Well, yeah, and I think that's just because for one it's smart, but it's also like, look, I don't just because I'm mentioning somebody, it's not fair to say what their name is. Even though we don't, even if I would say their first name, right?

smart.

Right.

and 99 % of the people wouldn't know. Someone might, and I don't want that getting back to somebody.

Well, what I mean is like we don't we don't share like when we're talking about our family, we don't talk. We don't say names. We don't we don't do any of that stuff to put anybody in any situation. But I've seen people totally throw out names and all kinds of crap on Tik Tok.

Yeah, and it's like crazy to me. I think there's something about, look, I have nicknames for people for a reason. And it's generally for the people that listen to the show so that they know who they are if I'm talking about them, purposely. And they know and it's all good.

Mm-hmm.

And 99 % of the people would never know who we're talking about, ever. And I don't say my son's name just because I think that there has to be some kind of closed door to the outside world. If I say something about myself, that's on me.

Mm-hmm.

but I don't want to, I don't want to disparage anybody, even though I might've had a bad experience with that person. Right. because you have an experience with somebody for your own reasons. You know what I mean? You you saw somebody for a long time during high school.

Mm-hmm.

that at certain points in your life you would still talk to, but it's not fair to be like, his name is Frank. It's like, no, that's like, that would be insane to even put that out there because someone might know. So, I would never do that to somebody. And it's funny because if I said someone's name, I've dated five people with the same name.

Yeah.

Hmm.

Like, so could you imagine me dropping that name and anybody who knows any of them would be like, you did this? It's like, no, no, that's the other one or the other one. Right. All right. I mean, even for myself, I make jokes. There's one that was in high school that I kind of throw out. And then there's like one, two, three, four, and five, you know, like, or two, three, four, five.

Wait, no, not that one either, the other one.

because of the order of how I met them or dated them. Because it's easier for me to remember like, you know, this person was then and this person was then. But I would never do such things. So for me, would never, I tried to not overly overshare. I just give my, we give our opinions. And I think that that's, that was the point of this show from the beginning, right? Because everyone has an opinion and I thought, what a great way to...

order.

give ours and give other people's their chance if they want everyone to come on, although no one really wants to come on and have fun with us. That's, know.

Hmm.

think there's a bit of being scared what they could say or if they could get in trouble. Not really. I could turn it way up. There's no tad much here. I'm doing really well.

We're a tad we are a tad much. Oh no, absolutely. For someone who's been around you during a not even the bad part, just. An overly fun party you can you can definitely hit the volume knob. You know what I mean? Like an I haven't.

Yeah, sometimes you gotta turn it up.

Right and I've never seen you bad like I would never say you know Tina did this this one time I don't have a story like that with you which is really awesome because with most people we all have a story of like this fucking asshole did this this one time I love him still but like my best friend I have a lot of stories about him I almost threw him down a staircase one time because he was saying something to someone else that he shouldn't have

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

Mm-hmm.

And I told him across the table that if he keyed it up, I was throwing him down the stairs and I wasn't joking and they were concrete stairs to our apartment. I was not joking with him and but I love him to death and I, we still talk to this day and I would, you know, I'd take a bullet for him, but sometimes they're assholes. no, that's all I'm saying. Right. You, I.

Damn.

You

Yeah, I didn't, I wasn't like that though. I was too busy having a good time.

I've never put you in that, I can see where people can be like that. So coming on here, we are a little much. I'm sure your ex-husband when we did that show was probably had his butthole puckered. Because he didn't know what was coming. We could have blindsided him.

Mm-hmm.

Well, and he could have did the same thing to me, so I bet, you know, I know he knows me and I know him in ways that nobody else knows each other. And I knew it was gonna be okay, but I did ask him, I'm like, why do you wanna be on the podcast? Like, what are you gonna throw out there? Because don't just, don't sideline me, like I don't do that. Just tell me what we're doing.

Right.

Right.

Right.

He was like, you really think that I would put you in this bottom? Like, no, but we're having a conversation, right? Like that's not happening, right? We did have that conversation. I was like, tell me now what the problem is.

Right, well, and here's the thing, here's the, and here's the reality of that where you might not mean to go down a certain road, but it happens. You know what I mean? Like he might not have meant to hurt you, but something could have came up and then he would have said it then it would have got real quiet.

Yeah.

So can I tell you that whole thing kind of hurt? Like it wasn't, that was not an easy thing for me to do. It all kind of hurt. And then I had to hear like what he was going through and that he was hurting and that, you know, I was always the one that would try to like get him out of that. And I couldn't. And we've had discussions about that a couple of times since then, you know, just, and I did tell him again, I said, you know,

I know there's no hard feelings and I know we both, neither of us were perfect, but I just have to tell you, I'm sorry again. Like I do that with him, not all the time, but if something comes up, like I want to make sure that I tell him, like I didn't mean for that to hurt, you know, and kind of own our shit. And who knew, who knew that you could do that on a podcast? Like, you know, talking about things that are, that have changed, that are life changing, you know.

That was a moment I think for both of us. You know, he still hasn't listened to it. But I've listened to it like four times. Yeah, he just doesn't want to or he doesn't need to or I don't know. He said something like, well, I was there, right? And I'm like, okay.

Really?

I mean...

Well yeah, but it's not the same.

It's not. No, and I realized that from listening to it myself.

Yeah, it's not and i'll tell you because I listen to the show many times And it's not the same You have to because they the spur of the moment things you don't realize until after you relisten to the show and you go You know and that's kind of like this like what we're talking about. That's not normal like that wouldn't have been normal for anyone 25 years ago where now I can go. yeah, we we get to

Mm-mm.

Yeah.

Mm-mm.

No, but he got divorced. People chose to be miserable and stay because they didn't think they'd be able to make it on their own. Like now people are getting divorced more than they're staying married. So different now.

Yeah, no, but I mean even even being able to listen to something that you've recorded, you know, we did we had that way back in the day, but now we do it purposely, which is even crazier. Internet fame. I think this is a says internet fame for literally anything. And that is a 100%. You can go viral for doing nothing or something stupid. There's too many stupid people who are Internet famous, which is sad. You know,

Mm-hmm.

Well, that started a lot of people's professional lives. Like, look at the Kardashians.

Yeah, oh absolutely absolutely yeah well yeah a video actually started Kim's but that's a whole other That's a that's whole other one But yeah, it's we that would have you you couldn't have got famous 25 years ago for

Yeah, but

You know, falling off a ladder and it going viral. Now you can. Now your fame might be very small. It's like everyone's getting that the Andy Warhol's 15 minutes of fame. You know, you can be viral for a couple weeks. Look at the Hawk 2 girl like that girl made a shit ton of money and now she's nowhere to be seen. Yeah, so you know, I think she doesn't only fans now, which is.

Yeah.

Or really?

A whole other monster of things. Everyone's a porn star now, which is really even crazier. And then it says like here, fame without skill or just entertainment value. And that's the truth. Look, I'll talk to you about YouTube. There's a lot of cool shit on YouTube. You can pretty much find out how to do almost anything.

Right? We, my son's car window took a shit on us. I went, I looked up a video of how to replace the motor in it and we ordered a motor and did ourselves. Yeah. And I mean, I think for 90 bucks, we fixed his car window, which I'm sure would have cost me 400 somewhere else.

Nice.

Yeah.

So that's the great part. Skillful people showing you skill for shit and you can do it. I went on there one time because I had a friend of mine looking to build a barbecue and I just went on there and I said, how to build a barbecue? There's web pages for miles and there are contractors. So they're showing you their trade online.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

for free, very bizarre. Now, is everyone gonna be able to do that? Absolutely not. Not everyone's a do it yourself person. But I definitely think it's different. But then there's just entertainment value, which is like people getting punched in the nuts. And we can watch that over and over and over again. you think, Tina, do you think that that comes from the...

America's Funniest Home Videos era? That's kind of what we are.

I don't know, I mean...

Do you remember seeing the movie, something Vegas, was with Cameron Diaz and...

She's the one that played in Three and a Half Men after Charlie Sheen.

What are their names Rob help me out here anyway in the movie the Cameron Diaz is fiance kind of did her dirty and so the friends of Cameron Diaz and the guy that I don't know why I am

It's okay, I'm looking it up right now, so keep talking.

I could see his face. I'm so sorry. But anyway, they go to the guy's house and they knock on the door and the guy opens the door and the friend hits him in the nuts. Like just get some it says, you know why and then they run away and

So that it's Ashton Kutcher and it was called What Happens in Vegas?

I think that, Aston Kutcher, thank you so much. What, see, I had part of it. my god, I'm getting old. But anyway, like, doing stuff like that, I think I'd watch this other stuff, like, that they're putting out. I'm not digging it. Well, there's a lot I'm not digging, by the way.

You did, you totally had it.

No, me too, but it's not for us. Like my son watches other people play video games and it drives me insanely bonkers. I'm like, what do you get out of this? you know, to each their own, you know, I would love to tell you that we don't do dumb shit, but I'm sure there's something that they look at Gen Xers and go, you guys are dumb. Like, I don't get it. So.

Mm-mm.

Well should we don't we can't figure out our computers that's that's enough You know where they got it like it's no big deal

Yeah, I mean, and our parents couldn't figure out a VCR.

my God, my dad still has a problem with texting. We've had these, these tutorials, I don't know how many times and still he's, mean, he's, he's got it, but he doesn't have it. Or I tell him to Google it up and he's like, I don't know how to do that. I'm like, my God, father. But that's, you know, but then there's a few levels up. I can't do, and I'm asking the kids, Hey, can you help me do this? Cause like,

Yeah.

That's funny.

Right, exactly.

I post, I don't do that shit. Like I'm normally handing somebody my phone and saying, hey, can you help me out with this or do it on mine too? You know? But...

Mm-hmm.

Right, right, exactly. I'm lucky that I have I have one down the hall. So if there's something I really don't know how to do, I go and ask him. And and thankfully, he doesn't treat me like I'm stupid. Thankfully, because he probably could.

Yeah.

Yeah. My niece just takes my phone and do do do, okay done. I'm like, you did it that fast? And she's like, yeah. I'm like, kid.

Yeah, that's kind of what he does, sort of. Like, I'll go, dude, show me what you do. Because I try to learn, right? I want to learn. But sometimes he just does it, and I'm like, OK. I just let it go. OK, cool, thanks. And he'll walk out. Yeah. So.

Yeah.

At least it's fixed.

This is kind of a weird thing and I think that this is probably true. says aesthetic lifestyles as an identity. So you're like that girl or the gym girl or the gym bro like you become.

You just become, yeah. Like if you go to the gym every day, now you're just like a gym bro and everyone sees you that way. Or you, you think you're that way, which I think is a very scary thing to be. It's like, and I'll tell you why. And at least from my point of view, and I'm going to go back to pro wrestling where since pro wrestlers are weirdos. I mean that with the utmost respect to weirdos.

personality.

A lot of wrestlers when I was in it in the 90s they I don't when I say this I don't think they believed their gimmick, but they They made it their whole personality where you know, like I played a crazy guy As soon as I went through the curtain, I was crazy as soon as I came back through it. I went home to my family

All right.

And I didn't hang out with a bunch of the guys. So maybe that's part of it. But I look at like things like that where people do do this. You become like this, you know, if you go to the gym, you're just the gym bro. And you're always talking about how healthy you should be and lifting weights and how much you bench. And it's like, I don't care. Go be like that, but be a fucking normal human being.

It's just weird. like, or, it says,

I don't see any of this. What am I missing this whole world of stuff?

Yeah, or it says turning your personality into a curated look, where like gym bros and gym chicks dress like they're at the gym all the time. You know what I mean?

girls who wear gym clothes, you know, 24 hours a day, or guys that wear tank tops and shorts and that's all they wear, you know, sweats and tank tops, because it becomes who they are instead of just being a gym person that goes to the gym and then you're a regular person the rest of the 22 hours. You know what I mean?

And I've seen it mostly gym people you go to the gym and you know the people who are the gym people They you can just see it. You're like, that's the person who their whole life is going to the gym like, okay Well, you that's fine and you can live like that but you have a very select group of people you can deal with because Most people outside of that don't give a fuck They're like good for you. I'm glad you're healthy. That's awesome. But like I don't want to hear

You know, every time I'm around you that you know, you should be eating more protein and chicken is better for you. And how many calories did do today? It's like, I don't know. I want to live. Awesome. Good for you. And I like, you know, I'm happy for you. But don't make that your whole identity, because I think wrestlers did and still may. It was like that was your whole identity. If you met somebody, say I'm pro wrestler. It's like, all right. Good for you. Awesome.

And here's one that's, and I think this is kind of across the board for any generation. Are we choosing who we are or are we copying trends? Yes, every single generation has copied a trend.

I think everybody's copying trends. Everybody.

I would say it probably really started in probably the thirties, right? With like zoot suitors and a certain way of dressing. And then the forties were kind of this weird part. And then the fifties came and sock hops and poodle skirts and leather jackets and a jelly roll for a hair. Like everyone did a trend and everyone wanted to do that trend, even though you couldn't. then in the eighties, we had like two or three different kinds of trends. It was like, you're either a new wave guy and you rolled

jeans up or you're a hessher and you had long hair and iron maiden shirt on or you know you know what i mean like or you were a jock those are things that all can you can but you you're you're making your personality and your trend together i think where a lot of people just take this and they make it their whole personality pretty crazy and which wasn't as much before um cancel culture

Mm-hmm.

Oh boy, we've done a show on this a long time ago and let me tell you, that shit would have never flown 25 years ago. Never.

Uhhh...

Yeah, it was, you know, it was a different world. We were really fortunate to grow up in the 80s because we didn't have a lot of the the crazy shit that's gone on since then. We actually got to live a pretty normal life where parents trusted us and we had some, we had nothing but people around us and we had a lot of trust. There was a lot of trust between the parents and each other and I don't know, I'm grateful we lived in that.

Yeah.

Well, and there had to be.

Yeah, and and even though we were all different like nobody was like you're wrong Or I can't be with you because you're this or that that's that's all crazy pants Yeah Like people don't talk to their own family because they don't get along politically. That's a tragedy

which is horrible now.

Yeah, because they voted for Orange Man.

I'm not even saying any of that. I'm just saying they don't get together because they have such different views. I thought we were supposed to have different views. I thought that's why we were Americans. you thought it was a think tank and people cared to hear what the other had to say and people didn't get so damn offended.

No, but I'm just saying that that's the reality. Yeah.

Isn't that what diversity is? I mean, that's kind of the, that's what the definition is.

That's I thought it was. I mean, but what does Google say it is now? Because maybe the dictionaries that we used were way different than they are now. Like we used paper. We had paper books. We didn't just Google what we needed. Like we could go on and on about that.

Thanks

Yeah, it's very true. That's cool. That's very true.

Here's something that I kind of agree, unfortunately, for the people of today. The internet is judge, jury, and executioner.

absolutely.

It's like, holy crap. Like it's it's bad. Like you can't say shit about anything without I've seen I've said things on Facebook years ago and someone was like, I can't talk to you. I was like, all right. Like because like, here's my thing. If if I called out every person that I didn't agree with, I wouldn't talk to anyone.

Anybody and if you're getting offended get an effing backbone, please Because I'm offended that you're offended. How's that like now? What are we gonna do that that drives me crazy like? We're allowed to have difference of opinions and we should be able to tolerate that if you're getting offended if it's Physically bothering you you got to go to counseling do something you got a problem. Yeah

And I wouldn't talk to my best friends. Yeah. yeah. Right. It's very true. Yeah.

We should.

Yeah, you have a much bigger problem. Yeah, you have a much bigger problem. If you wake up in the morning and you're like, fuck everybody who voted for this person. It's like that you're that's your life now. Like I have better things to do. I don't think we'll play with my dog than argue with somebody about politics. You know what I mean? It's like.

Seriously.

I blow people off with politics to the point where they said, you just really don't want to talk about this, you? And I said, no, I really don't.

And there, or here's the other thing. If you say you don't care, they even hate you more. Like they lose their fucking mind. What do you mean you don't care? You're the problem. It's like, no, I'm actually not. I just have better things. Yeah. I'd rather, I'd rather, you know, take my girl out to dinner and then argue with you about, you know,

yeah, yeah I got in trouble for that once.

Yeah, I gotta live my life and I don't have time to be that miserable today. Sorry.

That's right.

politics and like and you know me pretty well like I'm a super gun guy but I would rather do things than argue about guns with somebody this is not there's more to life like no one's gonna remember this era 10 years from now and I hate to say that but no one remembers the 80s you know you you know no but I mean you don't hear about like

Mm-hmm.

I do.

You know, do you remember when Reagan was president and he screwed up the world? It's like, it's, you do, but it's like very minimal. It's, you know what I mean? Like the, the every era kind of just disappears. It's, that's just the reality. Here's, I'll do this one as the last one. And we've done lots of, of shows or talked about this, but.

That's true.

dating apps and disposable relationships.

boy.

Yeah, you used to have to go somewhere to meet somebody. Now you don't even have to get out of bed or brush your teeth. Like, it's so different.

Mm hmm. Well, and that's what that's kind of what it says. It says swiping culture. And and that's unfortunately the truth, and I think that it's bled into our generation because. Everyone just goes this is the way we do it now. Right young people don't want to leave the house. My son could give two shits about ever leaving here. It's very wild.

Mmm.

Damn it, if I don't get out within a day, maybe two, I'm going stir crazy.

Yeah, even when I was hurt and my arm was strapped to me, I went to the park with my dog to get out of the house so I didn't go stir crazy. It's just we're built differently for sure. Endless options equal less commitment. And I think that is a hundred percent accurate thing in today's day and age.

Right? Yeah.

No one wants to put in work in a relationship because they can in their head they can go I'll just swipe somebody else tonight or I'll just it's okay they're replaceable and and look people are are replaceable I you can't argue that as being true but

Mmm.

The other part of that, my son the other day, were sitting down eating a very healthy Chipotle bowl. And we were talking about girlfriends. And my son goes, I don't want to learn people anymore. He goes, I don't give a shit what your favorite color is.

And and look, he he he dated the same girl for three years. So I understand where he's coming from. Right. After three years, you don't want to learn somebody. He knows her. He knows her. He knows all her idiosyncrasies. He knows all the shit that drives her crazy and all the stuff that drives him crazy about her. All these things he knows. So learning a new person is fucking rough. And once you get to know somebody, you're like, man, that's

Hmm.

I'd rather deal with the crazy and the girl who's too much than learn somebody new because they could be worse.

That is absolutely true.

So, but the culture is horrible. These people will, they'll go on a date and you'll never hear from them again. Like ever. They don't even tell you they're not interested. They just.

Well, wouldn't that mean that they don't have any connection? Because there needs to be some sort of a connection.

No, I agree, but in the old days, someone would just be like, you know, it was very fun, but you're probably not for me. awesome. I would rather hear that than just never hearing from someone ever again. That is crazy shit to me. I don't know. And maybe it's just because we come from a generation of, you know, people, there was no ghosting.

Hmm.

Right?

Cause people knew where you lived or they knew your phone number and they'd ring it off the hook. Like it's just different. here's the last question that I'll ask for this show. And part of that same thing, are we more connected or more detached now? And we'll say dating and as human beings.

Mm-hmm.

I think we're more connected than ever, but we're more detached than ever.

well played and I 100 % agree with that. We have everything at our fingertips, everything.

Yeah, for sure.

Remember remember when you used to have to call somebody's house and their parents answered the phone and you had to get through the parent to talk to the friend and how uncomfortable and unnerving that was or God forbid they didn't answer the phone or if it stayed busy and you got a busy signal busy signal you weren't getting through to talk to people you were listening to the busy signal until whomever was talking was off the phone or They were gone and you try to call him. Hey, do you want to go to a concert tonight and you have to keep calling?

hoping that they're gonna come home, but if they don't come home, they're screwed. They ain't going. Yeah.

Right. They're shit out of luck. I just heard a comedian last night who talked about, because he was a 40 year old. So he's like, you know, a little post gen X. And he goes, you remember when he had to call your crush's house and had to get through the parent? And he goes, as a boy.

Mm-hmm.

calling and asking, he's like, know, hey, is Sharon there? the dad goes, who's this? And he goes, this is Bill. And he goes, well, hey, Bill, why exactly are you calling my daughter tonight? And he goes, it was like the worst 10 seconds ever because you were trying to come up with a good reason of why you wanted to talk to his daughter. But there is something about that. And I agree with you, we are...

Who's calling?

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

We have everything at our fingertips. Any kind of knowledge is at our fingertips now. But we are disconnected. We don't call and talk to people anymore. Right? Everything's a text message. Everything's a DM. Everything's, you know, sending a picture to each other just to communicate. Which I think is fun, but it can't be the only way. And I'll tell you that

Yes.

Within the last couple of years, the best times I've had is sitting connecting with a human being right in front of him. There's.

Yeah, for sure. It's told there's nothing that's going to beat that. There's nonverbal communication. There's there's a sense of energy that goes between the two people. There's there's a commonality there that you just don't get when you're on the computer. Like I I I feel like I have that with you, but I don't have that with you when we're on the computer. When we get together and we're talking shit, that's a good time. It's a it's a different feel.

It's a totally different. yeah. Of course it is and and and it well and mostly with us like and I'm excuse me when I say us I mean our generation me and you for sure. Cause when we get together we just talk mad shit and we just let it all kind of vomit out. And there's no filter. I think that that's what's great between you know me you.

Yeah, those are some wrecking ball situations.

couple of other very close friends, there's no filter.

I don't like filters when I'm talking to my friends. I want to hear everything and I want to see what they're up to and and and truthfully, you know, I got to the point with my friends. We don't even judge and it's not just me that doesn't is we are all not doing it. We may have our opinions on what the other one's doing, but we sit there and we listen and we were like, do you like we encourage that you know, it took long how that took so long for me to find people.

Yeah.

They were just okay doing that. And now that I have them, I'm like, I don't need, I don't need anything less than that. I don't want a person who's going to get jealous or possessive or have a problem because I knew somebody longer. Like I really found a good group of people and they're all interchangeable. You know, we could take any or all of them at the same time. And, and that's so much better than, than before. But I see these kids now, they don't even communicate with each other.

How are they gonna get that? How are they gonna find that commonality that you just can't replace it?

You can't and even with my son where you know where we used to live is like

away from where we're at now on a good day. Even he said he talks to his friends online all the time but when he goes there to visit he was like it's great it's like the old times like yeah and I go now you understand how we grew up that was every day like he didn't understand that like you know during the summertime I went to my best friend's house every single day it's like I mean

Mm-hmm.

yeah.

I, without like something crazy happening, like a vacation for one of us every day. And I knew when he woke up because we had a plan, like.

All right, dude, I'll be here by like 930 latest, you know, if we were going to sleep in maybe 10 and then we would get together and we'd hang out until whatever the curfew was at the age, right? It was, you know, was much less at one point, but way later older. And, you know, that was between 12 and 18. That's when he ended up leaving and moving away.

And then I got a car and I drove out to where he lived. like we kept it going. But those are the things that like are such a great part of what we did that they don't have now. And I think that that's the kind of the reverse of what we're talking about, right? Like we accept.

Right?

not being able to hang out with people as normal instead of what we had where hanging out with them every day was the most normal shit in the world.

my gosh, every time I hear that, I think of my brother and his best friend Eric. Every freaking morning they were up and one was at the other's house. It was just gonna be that way every single day, even school days. They'd pick up each other so that we'd all go to school together or whatever we were doing. But every day I saw that kid until...

Until he got married and then I didn't see him every day, but I still saw him often and then you know, he passed away right before he turned 50 and It's a you know, my brother he when he at the eulogy He was the first one to get up and my brother's not a talker and he said that he goes he was my soulmate and and That hit me so hard because they really were as soon as they met they were together every single day

Yeah.

And they learned how to do everything together and they went to prom together and they met their girlfriends and stuff, know, while they were together. It was such a cool thing to watch and it makes me sad that people aren't gonna get to know their other person like that.

Yeah, there is something to that. I've replaced that with my best friend. Me, him, and another friend of mine are part of a little text group. Because we're all over the place. One lives San Diego, one lives in the Valley where I live. So we do communicate still.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

But you can't beat the older days of like, like we used to play baseball until dark and then get on skateboards and yeah, and then get on skateboards and ride them so far away from where we live that we probably shouldn't have.

Or Whiffle Ball?

Right, just all kinds of like fun stuff that I think that the modern culture is missing out on. And they're looking at things that we just don't find normal as regular. And I kind of hope that at a certain age that they start what we did. It might be later in life, maybe like 23, 24, 25, unfortunately.

where they, know, because their youth is wasted on video games and talking online and texting instead of being around each other. And I think that that might be more of a California thing. think small town life or smaller town life is still like we had. People are still out riding bicycles and still, because a lot of those small towns don't have what LA has or...

so

Yeah.

you know, or New York or Florida or Texas or where or the big cities, Dallas, whatever. So I'm sure that they still exist, but just not within the same kind of thing we had. don't know. I think modern culture is unfortunately living with some very bizarre things. I don't see it changing. The Internet's never going to go away.

So it's just going to breed, unfortunately, probably even worse people. But hopefully we're.

No.

My hope is that this generation that is having kids, I hope they're really, you know, because they're uber sensitive to everything already. I hope that they're uber sensitive to the amount of time their kids are spending on the internet and really putting time into them being around other people.

Like I think about this all the time when my mom passed away. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I was old enough to know but you don't know until you go through that and if it wasn't for the connections that I had with her with her, you know people They they they were the ones that got me through it. I couldn't imagine not having them and now this generation's not getting close to People and they're not

What is their tribe going to look like when their parents aren't there? Or when something happens, like you need to be able to look to someone for guidance. And they're not creating the network to have that guidance.

Yeah, 100%. That is, yeah, sad actually. I hope you're right. I hope that the gen, what is it, gen, gen Z, I think is what my son is. Gen Z is what he is.

whatever it is now.

He's not a millennial, so he's Gen Z. The ones after him will be Gen Alpha. So his generation, they are different, I will tell you that. They're not millennials. They have a little more backbone. They're a little, a little, uh.

They're just a different breed. think they have the same sense of humor as Gen Xers. My son says some crazy shit online that is very much the same shit that we talked about way back in the 80s. So I hope that that sense of humor transforms into being around more people and just changing. That would be for the best, I think. Any last words for today before I turn this off and go edit it?

Mm-hmm.

I don't know, I just, I think that people need to go back to how things were before we were taken over by the computer and the internet and stuff. Just stick your toe in the water at least, like know what that feels like because this is so very different and it's, to me, even being single and stuff, it's so...

It's so easy to be lonely because we have all this stuff.

That's a hundred percent where I think we're lonelier now than we have been in forever and we have and We have no reason to be lonely because we have everything around us. It's very very bizarre I agree with you. I think you should everyone needs to touch grass more and and Do things with people like like I said, I've I've had some great experiences over the last, you know year that just

by far.

Right? Yeah.

Yes.

kind of made me think differently about a lot of things. You're like, yeah, like, this is better than, you know, just sitting around and it's better to talk with people and get to know what's going on in the real world, the different place. So.

Yes.

On that, I will say goodbye and say keep checking this out. had last month was a super good month for us. Wow. Yeah, we're just rolling. We're getting much better. We had our best month in a year. Matter of fact, we might have had our best month ever. I haven't really broke it down to that yet, but I'm

Nice.

Wow, that's cool.

It was we had a lot of downloads. We had like 700 and something for the month. It was just really good for us. Keep sharing. We appreciate it. We're on Apple. We're on Spotify. We're pretty much everywhere. I goofed off and hadn't really posted anything, but you're going to see some more. I've just been kind of in a head space, so we'll get that going again. And hey.

You know, it's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. That's my co-host, Tina. I'm Rob. We'll see you in a week. Bye.

See ya.