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Episode 9 • 18th June 2020 • Podcaster Stories • Danny Brown
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In episode nine of Podcaster Stories, I sit down with Pete Cann of the Laughter & Positivity with Pete podcast.

After building an agency for chefs for 11 years, the Covid-19 pandemic put Pete's business on hold, and he had to furlough his team. However, this allowed him to focus on a podcast idea he'd been thinking about for a while.

Taking his cue from a virtual event called the Laughter Phone, Pete expanded on how he used positivity and laughter in his business to start his Laughter & Positivity show, and bring the world of laughter yoga and laughter professionals to a wider audience.

Topics up for discussion this week include:

  • how he first got into being a laughter professional
  • his process for the show, as it switches between just featuring him and having guests as well
  • the episode that stuck with him the most
  • why his life could have been vastly different if he'd stuck on the path he was on as a younger man
  • why Covid-19 has been an opportunity
  • how you can use laughter yoga techniques in your everyday life

Settle back for a fun and interesting chat on why laughter truly is good for the soul.

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Hi, and welcome to Podcaster Stories each year we will

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have a conversation with Podcast. It was across all mediums

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and share their story. What motivates them, why they started

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her show as a group or a show and more,

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but also talk about their personal lives and some of

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the things that have happened that made them the person

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after a day. And now here's your host Danny Brown

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Hey guys. And welcome to another episode of Podcaster. Stories

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where we talked to the voices of the people behind

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a show is we will listen to it this week.

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I've got Pete Cann on the show. We are going

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to be talking about how he's Podcast came about through

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the, the COVID-19 pandemic and his hopes, a, you know,

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what is the podcast series and how that ties into,

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you know, his existing business, etc.

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So Pete, welcome to the show. And I appreciate you

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joining us today. How about you tell us a little

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bit about yourself and your role.

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Yeah, so like it's nice to meet you too remotely.

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That's that's all we can do at the moment. So

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that name's Pete Cann and not being a business owner

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for the last 11 years running our chef agency, however,

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sort of a part of my makeup is sort of

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helping people as well. And I'm, I've been doing the

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online stuff through sort of Facebook or like a group

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called you can wear sort of thought that I spoke

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to them that the theme of NFP can, you can

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sew sort of that positive mental attitude, all about gratitude,

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talking about daily habits, about visualization or all of the

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good stuff that's got me from a sort of wear.

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I was 11 years, well, further than 11 years ago

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to where I am today. And what I found, like

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you said that you used to run a chef agency

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so that we are not used to that wrong terminology.

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You don't use it that I still run as a

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chef agency, but obviously being Covid at the moment, our

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hospitality there's no need for chef. So what I've taken

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this opportunity is to actually sort of dive deep into

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my sort of Positivity side of things, but it also

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on a Laughter leader. So I, I learned how to

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run Laughter yoga sessions about three years ago. And it's

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just, again, a daily habit that I have.

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And what happened was it was world Laughter a day

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back in may at the end of May 22nd, a

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man, I think it was. And I ended up editing

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a video where we passed a it's called a giggle

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phone and it basically past this laugh around the world

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and ended up going to 72 countries and through 710

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people. And from that, I sort of looked at it

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and I thought, wait, now I've just met all these

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really, really amazing Laughter professionals. And then I looked at

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the podcasting and I thought, actually, I'd thought I'd do

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a little search and see who's doing laughter yoga and,

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you know, explaining all the benefits of the Laughter and

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that's nothing out there.

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And it was like, there's, there's, there's a gap here

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for me to sort of, and if you are these

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Laughter and get their stories in how Laughter has changed

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our lives, but also put my Positivity side of it

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as well. So, so I sort of bounce week-to-week on

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interviews between Laughter professionals and also positive mindset people. So

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whether they're business owners, whether they're business coaches, and then

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also drop in the session where she asked me to

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meet her, Microphone just explaining, you know, maybe what, what

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my daily habits are or what my position is at

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the moment. So yeah, that's where I came from.

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So. Cool. And, and you mentioned, obviously you've been doing

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this a long, so your business for at least the

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11 years plus. So do you work at prior to

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COVID obviously, but do you work it into your business

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and the people you work with? How does that tie

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in to your main business as well?

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So the Laughter or the Podcast In

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Well, I guess both. Yeah, because they both died and

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you know, it was a Laughter relating to the Podcast

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and then,

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And so, so I mean, The with regards to the

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Laughter side of the thing, I like it. So once

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I learnt how to lead Laughter, I bought it into

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my office. I've got a team of four in the

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office. So we started doing some regular Laughter exercises and

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it wasn't not for everyone, but I certainly, I suppose

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for me as a make-up it lifts my vibration, which

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then means I can manage the business to a higher

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level. That it's always, always better. If your hanging around

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with people that have got a good, a good positive

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vibration, for sure. And then, so what I also found

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with, especially with the podcast, I think I did a

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podcast previously, probably about four years ago.

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I started a podcast and it was geared to chefs.

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It was an app that I started called. It was

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called the chef trick with the app. But what, what

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happened was I did, I just did all of the

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mistakes, you know, I didn't, I didn't record loads of

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episodes didn't we didn't get like six episodes in the,

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in the bank. I didn't, I suppose we didn't have

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the passion, didn't have the foresight to see where it

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was going to go. So I recorded for three or

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four episodes. I think it was called the stockpot. So

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they thought it was quite a good play on the

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work and yeah, it, it just sort of fizzled out

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quite quickly really. However, what I've realized since starting this

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podcast is I have got at the moment, I've got

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a 13 I'm I'm on an episode, seven live out

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in the big wide world, but I've got another eight

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in the, in the background ready to sort of go

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out.

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And what I've been thinking about it already is when

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we go back into the real world and, you know,

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retail, we are not real without hospitality, it takes off

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again, I can utilize this podcasting skills and start going

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and interviewing some chefs, interviewing some business owners, interviewing, you

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know, some, some, hopefully celebrity chefs is just to say

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it again. It, it won't be Laughter in Positivity with

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P it would be somewhere to do with it, you

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know, chef, chef I'm. And then

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You mentioned like your work with Laughter professionals. So what

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would, what would a typical The Laughter professional look like?

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Is there a professional comedian or is it someone who

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is geared, as you mentioned to bring laughter to two

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people, but what would that look like?

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So Laughter professionals. I mean, there are the, I studied

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Laughter yoga. So I mean, the average Laughter professional is

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someone that can facilitate laughing. Exercise is, and breathing exercise

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is to get the audience to release anxiety, relinquish stress.

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They can just feel better connected with their colleagues or

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their family or whoever they're with. And the most Laughter

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professionals, you know, that they're not funny, but I would

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say they're not, it's not about comedy. It's not about

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making people laugh through jokes. It's making like a it's,

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it's guiding people to laugh, fire, breathing exercises, and different

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Laughter techniques.

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And 'em so most Laughter professionals that I've met or

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more sort of life coaches or a spirit, quite spiritual,

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quite a few of them. So although I was interviewing

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some of the other day, he was a mine has

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been in my mind is for 36 years as well.

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So, you know, that's a really interesting insight.

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How did you interview her? My MRI? I don't like

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to speak.

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And then luckily he was, which is we teach. I

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just realized that how that went out actually. So yeah,

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yeah, it was a bit one-sided

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They drive the direction as a conversation that way. So

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that's cool. Now that you mentioned, obviously that the podcast

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is in it's early stages, or at least publicly, you

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got seven episodes, so on, and I noticed that at

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your guests, they talk about it. Although it's like a,

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a, a single drive in topic, the actual, we talk

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about a wider variety. So obviously as you mentioned, or

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is there anything from laughter yoga to mental health issues?

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So is it a, a, a method that you, you

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fall off to choose who you want to have on?

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So, I mean, do you have set themes for an

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episode or a month, et cetera, or is it more

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organic? What is your sort of process there?

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So? So my process is a way that I basically,

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I want to do, and I'm doing one episode where,

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where it's me to eat. It's a solo episode. Then

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the Laughter episode to the Laughter episode is I will

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look at the people that have got following, which helps.

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And they've got an audience as well, but that those,

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all their audience that doesn't tend to be really know

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their story. And that sort of my, I suppose, the

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process of how I reach out to these people who

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say that, you know, that everyone knows you as they're

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like this Laughter yoga professional, but actually, do they know

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how Laughter came into your life?

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Did they know why you, why you have Laughter as

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a, as a means to release the mental health sort

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of issues that you've had in the past? And what

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I'm finding is where with those interviews, I don't, I

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don't know any of this really, before I start. And

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I find a few different things that they will say,

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something that similar to our interview. Now, you know what

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to say? So they'll say something, but I'm not actually,

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it was really interesting. We dive a bit deeper into

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that because actually my main mission with the podcast is

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a whole is actually to bring Laughter to the masses

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rather than actually it is, you know, it's quite, it's

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quite niche. Laughter yoga. People don't know about laughter yoga.

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They don't know that they can laugh. And the reason

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why we don't know, you know, how, how it, well,

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obviously we all know when we laugh, we feel good,

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but actually we don't know that we can do it

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for no reason. And so I suppose as part of

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the Podcast mission is to go, well, actually, can I

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take the Laughter and put it into more of the

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mainstream? And like I said, Podcast, and I think Podcast,

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and this is a good medium, because people would be

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listening, whether there are running, whether they're driving to work,

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whether they're just getting all of us in chores. And

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the way I do each Laughter episode is I always

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get the, the guy's to do their favorite to laughing

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exorcizes. So it brings laughter to the podcast, which is

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really, really interesting.

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And then, sorry, the other, so the other side is

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the Positivity side. So then again, where I've, I suppose,

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run a business for the last 11 years. I know

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lots of other business owners. I know Mo I know

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the ones that do have daily habits, daily rituals that

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I, and, and they're the ones that I thought of

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being attracted to initially, because actually, I know I've seen

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them grow over the last 11 years as well through

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practicing these different Positive daily routines.

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And because I had never heard of a one I

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was looking and a good background on the show, et

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cetera. I had never, as you mentioned, I never heard

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of, you know, yoga Laughter or Laughter yoga. Sorry. I,

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I noticed some people do in a goat yoga, which

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I've thought was pretty cool. There's like a meme in

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a video collection on our Facebook and YouTube all about

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that. But how, how do w what's the biggest, I

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guess, hurdle to overcome when you're trying to explain Laughter

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yoga to people that are, that might like myself having

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heard of it and, and feel that Laughter generally comes

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from watching funny programs or shows, et cetera.

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Yeah. Completely. Okay. So when you say that, the first

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thing for, for the hurdle, I would say Laughter, it

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was just a breath and we all know how to

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breathe. And so I would basically, I would say that

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the rough, so we'd take a deep breath in for

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our nose when we take a deep breath out and

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then on the next exhale, we just let our heart,

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so we take a deep breath in and then we

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go, ha ah, and then we do another deep breath

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and the next one would just do a haha. So

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we'd take a deep breath. We go, ah, ha ha

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ha.

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And Laughter is it's in us, it's within us. So

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yeah, it's like that, like I said, the bene the,

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of a massive, or, I mean just firm that, just

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doing that little lab there, I can feel that dope

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for me, spiking. I could feel more endorphins running around

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in my brain and it just, it just makes me

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feel good. It, and so I dunno, did that answer

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your question?

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Yeah, I know for sure. And how it will be

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definitely practice and some of that later, but it's interesting

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when you were there, like, you know, using it as

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an example, it went like the Phone or one went

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from the sort of evil emperor Laughter into like someone

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who is really having a great day. It was like,

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it was funny to, is not funny. It's interesting to

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watch for that sort of progression as that laugh came

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out. Was it pretty cool? Definitely be trying that later.

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So, so Danny let let's say evil emperor, then let

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me hear you the most evil laugh.

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So most of you all will laugh would probably be

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something like a Monte Barnes, like or something like that.

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And I'm not sure So then

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Extend up for a little bit longer.

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Or do you feel that I'm sad or feeling something

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that I didn't pick a big breakfast? I was cheering

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a little bit like that, I guess,

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But then there's a little bit little chocolate and your

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voice. I can add that.

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Yeah, no, definitely. No. And I like to say it,

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I'm definitely gonna try this. It sounds like a, a

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really fun one technique and I thought of a goal,

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so it'll be easier as well. We got for some

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of, you know, I know like your shirt, as we

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mentioned, it is it's in its early stages, but how

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has it been so far? How has it been like

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an episode that stuck with your resonated, the most out

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of the guests that you've had on

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Is that it's actually like if there was a Julie

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from America, she, yeah, it was just talking about how

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she discovered Laughter in her life and she's a grief,

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a grief counselor. And the story she was telling me

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was when she first met Matt, the discover at Laughter,

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she was doing a session where she had 16 people

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that were coming too hard that day, because there were

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gonna let go of some balloons with a tiger of

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the, the last ones. And so they, they literally were

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walking up this Hill with all of these tax and,

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you know, literally two, they could have a Laughter coming

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from the other side in July.

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He was just so out of Australia, mesmerized by the

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fact that it actually all of this laughing and these

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people were laughing for no reason. But then she looked

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at the chain of people that were, were grieving and

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actually they were all smiling and laughing. And the, the,

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the fact that The Laughter rubbed off. So, you know,

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so easily to, to, to anyone really by it. But

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if you surround yourselves with people laughing at it, it

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just naturally what makes you happy?

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No, and, and that's, that's an interesting approach. I, I

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know, I, I see a lot of people now that

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have started doing that. They're like planning to run for

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funerals and their own wakes, et cetera, because they want

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it to be a celebration as opposed to, you know,

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something that's depressed and, and sad and, and makes people

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upset. And that the people that have done that, and

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we'll have insured that the, the, the celebration of the

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life of your life as a happy affair, it's amazing

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to see the people that attended and, and their emotions

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and you know, how they remember happier times as opposed

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to the sadness of the past or in the past.

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Yeah. I mean, there's another story from another guy, Mike,

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who is the, the episode is not out yet, but

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he was saying it is sort of the most memorable

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Laughter session. And he ran was with 'em. It was

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a, a, a father of someone who reached out to

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him who basically had about two weeks to live through

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with cancer. And he was invited into their house with

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a, so it was his daughter, his wife, a husband.

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And I think that you said there was like six

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of them in, in the family room or family lounge.

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And, and she just want you to organize just sum

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Laughter and just releasing, you know, all of these sorts

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of emotions were obviously inside them.

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And yeah, he said it was like probably the most,

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well, it was the most memorable, the impactful thing that

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you never done to, to actually give them the, you

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know, that, that moment together where they didn't have a

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long left with, with their dad.

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No, I know that, like you had mentioned earlier that

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you're sure sort of, he goes between having a guest

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on, and then just yourself and, and your most recent,

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like, live episode in a way you talked about the

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five people whose had the most impact on your life.

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So looking at it, the, the, the, the, the impact

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of their hard and at the advice or whatever that

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he gave you, what do you thinks been the biggest

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difference in your life or what you think the biggest

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differences in your life would have been, had it not

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been for any of these five people?

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No, I think a, you know, basically it wasn't for

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my wife, Chloe meeting, how are, you know, I don't

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really want to put a year on it because it

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was, I can't remember. So I like it was 'em,

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but, you know, she, she has helped me through out

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lots of different things and, and, you know, she has

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to be in there to get me through certainly there's

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some of the darker times, so, but do I think

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it would be a podcasting now if I had met

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her? Nope. Do I know where it would be? You

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know, I don't really want to think about that because

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I think, yeah, I'd probably still be working in a

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restaurant somewhere.

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No, I wouldn't. Yeah. It wouldn't have any drive. I

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don't believe I wouldn't have any just self about the

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vacation. And I, and I'm not saying Chloe brings that

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like completely to me, but she certainly helped when it,

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when it came to sort of giving up the gambling

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and given up all of the substances, you know, she

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was there to support me through there. And I think

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then also just, just the books, the AUDIO that I've

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listened to, the videos that are seen, the conferences that

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I've been to has just created it, you know, turn

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me into the person that I am today. You ready?

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And, and then I was speaking of change. I mean,

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you have taken quite the career changed. You feel like

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now, what else are you still have your chefy? And

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you said that you mentioned, but since COVID-19 started and

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led you More to the, the Positivity and the Laughter

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site, and obviously the Podcast launch. So do you want

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to hear more about that in differences that made for

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you? Like a, is that something you want to continue?

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Once we get back to one of the form of

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normality, it looks like after COVID or are you still

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look in a split team?

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No, I think, I think what's going to happen is,

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and it's funny enough, I'm looking at my, my book,

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which has got all of the breakup of How. I

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see the future. So we get in to still have

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the sheriff agency. That's definitely gonna meet a lot after

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11 years. There was no way we were going to

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shut that if we've got a name and, you know,

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we've got, yeah, we built a lot of track record

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there. So, but what we've done is we we'd sort

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of re looked at it, how we're positioning are time

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within the business. That it's something that Covid has done

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because the, the team are offering it at the moment.

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So we were back to back to basics, basically like

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running, like what, like we were 11 years ago when

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we first started.

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However, what we've realized is that we both got our,

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the passions that we want to pursue. So we, we

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started looking at ways that we can manage the team

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when we go back in, which will then free up

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time. I would like to think, well, now I don't

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even like to think, I know I'm going to be

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spending at least 50% of my time doing the Positivity

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and Laughter side of things,

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You know, that you had mentioned, like, this is your

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second, Podcast the first one that you kind of gave

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up, like a lot of podcasts, as you know, I

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did early doors. It wasn't the juices weren't quite flowing.

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And now you've got this show, which as you mentioned,

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you were looking to, you know, spend a lot more

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time on it. So is it a single piece of

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advice or a, a solid piece of advice that you'd

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give to a new podcasters before the jump into the

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medium?

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I definitely do some reading and this is probably a

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few bits of advice, but the first thing I did

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was a do some research. There are plenty of YouTube

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videos out there that give you all the guidance that

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you need when it comes to podcasting. And, you know,

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they, they obviously do their top three tips in, you

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know, one of the, one of the big ones is

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the fact that being consistent and to be consistent, you

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need to, if you're, if you're doing so two episodes

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you need to have, so you have enough stuff to

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talk about, but if you're in, if you are in,

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you also need to have a good lineup of guests

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and they don't have to be, you know, these big

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players that can be anyone, you can interview your best

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mate for down the road. But as long as the,

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the content, the subject you're talking about and the, you

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know, the people want to listen to, and that your

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listeners is going to get something from it, then yeah,

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go for it.

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And that's probably about three bits of advice I gave

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that. It wasn't it.

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And that's all I know I had mentioned earlier when

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we were in the green room before the show, I

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will speak to the guys from their SquadCast add the

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other week there. And one of the things that Zach

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mentioned was we get so wrapped up into the technology

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side of it, and you know how I should have

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use this microphone and what post production should we use?

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What qualities should have been gone for, what attack should

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be used in a coordinated, et cetera. And it put

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so many people off because at the end of the

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day, you don't need to find the solution on top

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of a problem arises. So if you are just starting

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Podcast and I'm like, you mention, you know, to get

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your consistency and get your Topics land up, and then

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you can get started with like a basic, you know,

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a Apple pod. My air, I like the little microphone

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is that comes with a, with smartphones, with a headphone,

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make a combination, you know?

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So it was like, you see, I think you should

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just, you know, get started in the rest will fall

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out from there.

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Definitely. And the thing, you know, ultimately it, its due

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people to pick up, this is the right word. Do

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people want to listen to what you say? That that's

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not the, you know, you've got to be passionate about

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what you're doing. And I think that's the difference between

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the podcasts that I did before. And it was when

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I did that, there was another sort of a marketing

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arm. I had it in my head for the app

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that I was doing. Whereas this time around is like,

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actually the, you know, the drive is, I want more

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people to know about Laughter yoga that ultimately is it

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and how it's changed people's lives. And you know, and

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if that, if each day I can inspire one person

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to have a laugh a for no reason at all,

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then my job's done.

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And you know, obviously I'm not, I'm not getting caught

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up in like, Oh my goodness. So you need to

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get 10,000 followers and all that. That's not what it's

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about. Is it literally each day? If I can, if

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I can bring laughter into one person's life, then, then

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this is a good day.

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No, exactly. Your impact one person as you see it,

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as better than, you know, trying to impact like those

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and fake followers

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Completely completely.

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Now one is just to switch things up a little

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bit. What is something that not a lot of people

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know about you, you know why they would have known

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you for a few years, but they don't know, you

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know, as long as your, okay, we are talking about

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all or whatever, but what does something that makes supplies

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to people about, you know,

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What did people not know about me? The thing is

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I was pretty, I am quite an open book when

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it comes to Facebook and live feeds and just being

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who I am. What is the one thing that someone

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might now know about it? I mean, I'm, I'm vegan.

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I don't drink. Mmm. That's why I say I don't

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drink I'm a 110 days without any alcohol. So congratulations.

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Yeah. No, not that I'm a reformed alcoholic or anything.

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Its just something that I've had decided to do. What

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do they, okay. Yeah. So, so, so here we go

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to somebody that people are, a lot of people wouldn't

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know about me is I did two seasons and I'll

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be fair and it was a DJ over and I

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would be first.

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So I'm up to like a thousand people in the

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crowd. So yeah, that again, how are you a few

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days? You know? So that's another part of my life,

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but that, yeah, that's something that a lot of people

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probably don't know about it. Yeah.

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At the party capital of Europe completely. I remember going

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there, there were a few times when we'd be back

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in there that day and like in the wrong side

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of 15. Oh. So that was a long time, but

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a happy memory. So some happy memories it's a memory

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is they don't have, but I'm happy that that's cool.

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And what was the, the music that you had? Was

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it like, was it trans or was it techno or

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what was the

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Question? Just slightly.

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Oh, sorry. So what was the music you played there

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was like TRITON or techno or what?

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Well, so yeah, so trans is my main, yeah, it

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was transferred, played a lot more sort of, I suppose

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how seaside type of stuff in Ibiza is obviously the

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lyric vibe, but I'm the trance hot house had to

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take down. That's that's what gets me going. If I,

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if I'm, I said I'm looking at me vinyl across

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the room from there and that's just something that I've

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done again in this lockdown. I didn't, I didn't have

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to be vinyl. A lot of my decks plugged in

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for such a long time and then locked down, came

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in and I started putting in a few live sets

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out there and, and again, one more to people were

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watching and there's the response was, I'd just been dancing

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around the living room for the last hour. Thanks. Pete

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it was just like cool. So by that

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Excellent. Combined it with a smile when you got the

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perfect combination.

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Completely, completely awesome.

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So Pete, I really appreciate your coming on the show

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today. I I'm really looking forward to trying out the

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The Laughter exercises later on. I'm going to get my

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kids are involved in that as well. They, they, they

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could, I definitely use a little bit with that and

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for people that want to find out more about yourself

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and Laughter yoga and you know, get possible, get in

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touch with Tara. Can I, you can have a one

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on ones, et cetera. Where's the best place that people

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can find you?

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Yeah, probably the best place. She was just head straight

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to my site, which is a pecan.com and its all

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on there. All my, all my social media handles and

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the podcast and everything is all hosted there. So yeah,

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Pete I can see a double N for november.com.

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Okay, awesome. And I'll make sure to drop the links

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to, to both the website and your show, et cetera,

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and near the show notes. So if people want me

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to check it out, their details will be in the

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show notes. Okay. So, so I can say, I really

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appreciate your coming on and I will certainly be trying

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the The Laughter yogurt out later and what some of

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the upcoming episodes that you've got coming up for the

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show.

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Okay. So I have got, I should, do you have

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caught me on to help him? You get it, there

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was a guy called Gasa bouts, a gallery forward, which

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is a really neat, he's just all about, about a

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positive affirmations and how we can overcome some S some

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loss in this life over the last few years is

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a really, really powerful, powerful episode. And I've got a,

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again, a guy called Mike Forrester from Canada, who, who

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is the Laughter Laughter leader, the Higgs, the guy who

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went into the family's houses as a, as their father

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who was passing. So it's yeah, again, that's some, there's

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some deep, deep stuff there, which is really, really good.

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Okay. I'll hold it for you to listen to that.

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