Malc & Trish Morgan share the story of their amazing journey as followers of Christ. Although Malc & Trish had very different childhoods and upbringing, they both discovered their faith in Christ as young people. They met while at Uni and got married a few years later.
Having a life of adventure with Christ had been their desire right from the start of their journey as husband and wife. And they devoted themselves to serving God and serving the community every opportunity that they got. They were catalysts for change and pioneered several areas of ministry. The seeds that God planted through them in people’s lives bore fruits for many years to come and still does today.
“There is more. There's higher heights and deeper seas for us to have. Don't settle for too little. Don't settle for the status quo. Everybody tends to like the comfort zone. All I can say for me and for Malc is that God has been there for us. He has matched every step that we've taken and then taken us further and blessed us and looked after us and helped us”, says Trish.
ABOUT MALCOLM & TRISH
Malcolm & Trish Morgan have spent their lives working for the church and Christian organisations, which includes a full-time band. They have lived all over the world, including South Africa, Northern Ireland, Greece, and the UK.
Malcolm is now the senior pastor of St. Andrews in Bath. And Trish's recently written a book called “Higher Heights, Deeper Seas” recounting some of their incredible faith journeys. They have been married for 38 years and have two kids and four grandkids.
Welcome to, What's the story?
Matt Edmundson:My name is Matt Edmundson and this is a podcast full of stories about faith
Matt Edmundson:and courage from everyday people.
Matt Edmundson:And today I am chatting to, the beautiful, the talented, the all round amazing
Matt Edmundson:people, which are Malcolm, Trish, Morgan.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, we're gonna be talking about higher heights, deeper seas.
Matt Edmundson:Living in Northern Ireland, Greece, Liverpool, everywhere
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Matt Edmundson:Now, uh, Malcolm, Trish, uh, before I read your bio, one thing that I
Matt Edmundson:do want to do, cause it says here in my notes, let's give a shout out.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, and I said to you guys, uh, before we started recording, who
Matt Edmundson:do you want to give a shout out to?
Matt Edmundson:And you guys said, CDU and why are we giving those?
Matt Edmundson:Uh, well those Karam is a person.
Matt Edmundson:None of those, I'm thinking of Karam and Liz, who are a beautiful couple,
Matt Edmundson:why are we giving them a shout out?
Matt Edmundson:Karam
Malcolm Morgan:just got his citizenship to come to UK Citizen, who's a refugee
Malcolm Morgan:from Syria and arrived a few years ago in Britain, has now got his citizenship.
Trish Morgan:That's nine years Syria to now.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Congrats Karam.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Stoke for you, man.
Matt Edmundson:I remember being at their wedding, uh, a while ago.
Matt Edmundson:It was a while ago.
Matt Edmundson:Now, uh, they've got, uh, I mean, , it's great that they've got the
Matt Edmundson:citizenship and in fact, let's do this.
Matt Edmundson:The Steve Wright thing we talked about before.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Bigger.
Matt Edmundson:We're so pleased you Karam so, uh, us Awesome man.
Matt Edmundson:So guys, listen, welcome to the podcast.
Matt Edmundson:Let me read your bio, right, Sincere that.
Matt Edmundson:And TR Morgan are a couple who have spent their lives working for the church and
Matt Edmundson:Christian organizations, which includes.
Matt Edmundson:a fulltime band, uh, which we might want to get into that.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, you've lived all over the world, like I mentioned, including South Africa,
Matt Edmundson:Northern Ireland, Greece, and the uk.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, Malcolm is now the senior pastor of St.
Matt Edmundson:Andrews in Bath, Not Bath, Bath.
Matt Edmundson:We were debating that.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, and Trisha's recently written a book recounting some of her incredible,
Matt Edmundson:some of their incredible faith journals.
Matt Edmundson:This is the book.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, higher heights and deep Seas.
Matt Edmundson:We're gonna get into that.
Matt Edmundson:There's one particular thing which I've underlined definitely want to get into
Matt Edmundson:that, uh, you can get that on Amazon.
Matt Edmundson:You guys have been married, if the notes are correct for 38 years.
Matt Edmundson:Have two kids and four grandkids, so welcome to What's the Story.
Matt Edmundson:It's great to have you here guys.
Matt Edmundson:Really psyched.
Matt Edmundson:Great.
Matt Edmundson:Thanks Matt.
Matt Edmundson:Good to be with you.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, it's great.
Matt Edmundson:Have you, I was trying to think earlier on, like how long I've known
Matt Edmundson:you, and it must be when you guys moved to Liverpool that we met.
Malcolm Morgan:2013.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, 2013.
Matt Edmundson:Is that when you Oh, geez.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Nine years.
Malcolm Morgan:Nine years.
Matt Edmundson:It, goes by quick, doesn't it?
Matt Edmundson:It really does go by quick.
Matt Edmundson:So nine years.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, but you guys aren't in Liverpool anymore.
Matt Edmundson:You are in, like we said in the intro, you are in Bath now, right?
Matt Edmundson:Uh, uh, bickering, Pastoring a church in
Malcolm Morgan:Bath.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, I'm the senior associate minister of an Anglican church, uh, called St.
Malcolm Morgan:Andrews, um, on the edge of bath and a brilliant bunch of people
Malcolm Morgan:and enjoying every minute of it.
Malcolm Morgan:Now, did you mount grow up saying bath or is this something you're
Malcolm Morgan:doing to fit in with the locals?
Malcolm Morgan:No, down south we say bath.
Malcolm Morgan:I've been a welshman, You know, I'm down south its Bath,
Matt Edmundson:and Trisha, You, Bath, or both?
Matt Edmundson:Uh,
Trish Morgan:I'm not sure actually, but probably these days.
Trish Morgan:Bath more.
Trish Morgan:Grass.
Trish Morgan:Grass, grass, , you know, potato.
Trish Morgan:Potato.
Trish Morgan:All of that.
Trish Morgan:Potato.
Trish Morgan:Potato.
Matt Edmundson:For anybody outside of the UK listening into the podcast, why are
Matt Edmundson:we pronouncing words that are the same?
Matt Edmundson:Slightly differently?
Matt Edmundson:There is a split in the uk there's a north divide split on how you pronounce certain.
Matt Edmundson:Words, Bath being one of them, which is a beautiful town in the uk.
Matt Edmundson:And if you're from south, from you're from the south, or more
Matt Edmundson:southern you tend to say bath.
Matt Edmundson:Whereas if you are more northern, you tend to say bath or grass rather than grass.
Matt Edmundson:And so that's why we're just picking upon regional accents.
Matt Edmundson:But, uh, you're from Wales, right?
Matt Edmundson:You're not even, It is, You're not even north or south.
Matt Edmundson:You're Welsh.
Malcolm Morgan:I'm Welsh.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, Left Wales many, many years ago.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:brought up First 18 years in Wales.
Malcolm Morgan:Uh, yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Long time ago.
Malcolm Morgan:Left there.
Malcolm Morgan:Had, uh, never returned.
Matt Edmundson:Still got the accent though, right?
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Can't get rid of it.
Matt Edmundson:Tried my
Matt Edmundson:best.
Matt Edmundson:I like it.
Matt Edmundson:It's nice.
Matt Edmundson:Oh, it's, it's awesome.
Matt Edmundson:It is properly awesome.
Matt Edmundson:It's one of my favorite accents the Welsh accent, so don't ever lose it.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, it's uh, it is brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:So guys, great to have you here now.
Matt Edmundson:Um.
Matt Edmundson:One of the things I like to ask on what's the story is about your
Matt Edmundson:sort of faith journey in terms of how you came to faith, right?
Matt Edmundson:And I know you both have quite different stories cuz we did the
Matt Edmundson:pre-cal and we chatted through it.
Matt Edmundson:Um, but you, you both have quite different stories, right?
Matt Edmundson:So who wants to go first out, the two of you?
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, go.
Malcolm Morgan:I'll go first.
Malcolm Morgan:In Wales, I was brought up, um, being sent to church by my parents.
Malcolm Morgan:My parents were religious and it was the duty to, to be sent to church every Sunday
Malcolm Morgan:in a suit and tie the whole picture.
Malcolm Morgan:And I hated it.
Malcolm Morgan:From the age of five on was to 15.
Malcolm Morgan:We were sent every week to represent the family.
Malcolm Morgan:The church we went to in Wales was dead there, really about 12 people in it
Malcolm Morgan:scattered throughout a big building.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, it.
Malcolm Morgan:It didn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
Malcolm Morgan:Got so bad once actually, but that, um, I fainted in church one Sunday.
Malcolm Morgan:I literally fainted.
Malcolm Morgan:I could find out the primary head teacher driven home.
Malcolm Morgan:Best thing that happened to me, . In fact, it was so good.
Malcolm Morgan:I fainted the next three weeks running.
Matt Edmundson:You, you, you'd figured.
Matt Edmundson:So the first faint was genuine.
Matt Edmundson:The second three were fake,
Malcolm Morgan:were were fake.
Malcolm Morgan:He and my dad basically laid hands on me and I got healed immediately.
Malcolm Morgan:But it, I was 15.
Malcolm Morgan:I was given the choice to leave if I wanted to, and I did.
Malcolm Morgan:And vowed never to enter a church door again.
Malcolm Morgan:Wow.
Malcolm Morgan:At the age of 15 it was dead.
Malcolm Morgan:There was no like, Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:So what happened?
Matt Edmundson:What happened then?
Matt Edmundson:Then?
Matt Edmundson:Because obviously, I mean, you are leading a church now, so something
Matt Edmundson:obviously happened in between.
Matt Edmundson:Right.
Malcolm Morgan:I went to university and got saved at university.
Malcolm Morgan:Met some friends when you first started university rounding groups.
Malcolm Morgan:And there was about 10 of us in a group and two of them were Christians.
Malcolm Morgan:Okay.
Malcolm Morgan:And ones, one mentioned that I started spouting off and making fun of them.
Malcolm Morgan:And basically they questioned me on that and got me talking about why and.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Over a period of number of weeks, they introduced me to Jesus.
Malcolm Morgan:I'd never heard the story of Jesus about salvation when I was
Malcolm Morgan:going to church all those years.
Malcolm Morgan:And, um, they introduced me to Jesus.
Malcolm Morgan:I discovered it for myself.
Malcolm Morgan:And that was, uh, the style of totally different lifestyle.
Matt Edmundson:Wow.
Matt Edmundson:Wow.
Matt Edmundson:That's crazy.
Matt Edmundson:You can go to church all those years and never actually hear the
Matt Edmundson:gospel or the story of Christ.
Matt Edmundson:You know, I
Malcolm Morgan:look back and the only preach I remember was, um, a
Malcolm Morgan:vicar coming and he spoke about Dr.
Malcolm Morgan:Christian Barnard's first heart operation and talking about whose heart was it?
Malcolm Morgan:That's the only preach I remember in all those years, crazy.
Matt Edmundson:Wow.
Matt Edmundson:Wow, wow, wow.
Matt Edmundson:So you go to uni, you meet up with some Christian friends and they basically
Matt Edmundson:suck you in over a period of time.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:They opened the Bible to me.
Malcolm Morgan:I'd never read the Bible, Bible written like that.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, and over a period of three months, got me talking about Jesus
Malcolm Morgan:and who he was and why he died.
Malcolm Morgan:And it was all new to me.
Malcolm Morgan:I had no idea
Matt Edmundson:so, um, so what was it that made you, um, I'm
Matt Edmundson:curious because you, you became a Christian sort of similar age that
Matt Edmundson:I did by the sounds of things.
Matt Edmundson:And so what was it then at that age that sort of drew you
Matt Edmundson:into going, Yes, this is real.
Matt Edmundson:Yes, this makes sense for me.
Matt Edmundson:, Um,
Malcolm Morgan:I guess it was my, again, you know, you're 19 years of age, you're
Malcolm Morgan:looking at life and what it's all about.
Malcolm Morgan:And the way the introducer was so good, it, it wasn't pushed to me, but we
Malcolm Morgan:talked about issues and talked about who Jesus was and, and why he came and died.
Malcolm Morgan:And it suddenly clicked, all made sense, and um, is only a short step then for me
Malcolm Morgan:to say, Right, I'm committing to this.
Malcolm Morgan:And it started my faith journey
Matt Edmundson:off.
Matt Edmundson:Wow.
Matt Edmundson:Fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:Fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:I think you're right.
Matt Edmundson:There is a point, isn't there, where you are faced with that truth, where you are
Matt Edmundson:and you kind of decide, well, if this is real, I need to do something about it.
Matt Edmundson:I can't just, I can't just say it's true and then not do anything about it.
Matt Edmundson:Right?
Matt Edmundson:You're kind of confronted with this a little bit.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, and so that's, and that was,
Malcolm Morgan:and you know, the old story of the, you know, what,
Malcolm Morgan:if you step out tonight in front of a bus, where would you go?
Malcolm Morgan:And I think that was one the questions I was asked.
Malcolm Morgan:And as I realized, That.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, I can't put off making decision.
Malcolm Morgan:It's.
Malcolm Morgan:, you either choose or not, so.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Morgan:. Matt Edmundson: yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:It's interesting how that question worked for you.
Malcolm Morgan:For me, it used to really wind me up.
Malcolm Morgan:. Well,
Malcolm Morgan:yeah,
Malcolm Morgan:it used to.
Malcolm Morgan:What happens tonight if you die?
Malcolm Morgan:I don't know.
Malcolm Morgan:Leave me alone.
Malcolm Morgan:Stop asking me crazy questions like that.
Malcolm Morgan:used to really wind me up.
Malcolm Morgan:It made me think.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:No, that's good.
Malcolm Morgan:So, Trish, what was your story then?
Malcolm Morgan:Growing up?
Trish Morgan:Um, a very different one to Malc.
Trish Morgan:Um, I was raised in their Christian family.
Trish Morgan:Um, my father was a minister of a church.
Trish Morgan:Um, and so therefore I was taken along to church.
Trish Morgan:Well, right from the very word go, but I was about seven and I
Trish Morgan:remember going to an evening service one week and they had a drama.
Trish Morgan:And the drama, um, was very effective.
Trish Morgan:In my opinion.
Trish Morgan:I was only seven, but I realized at the end of the drama that I wanted
Trish Morgan:to make a commitment to Jesus.
Trish Morgan:So I went forward with an elderly man.
Trish Morgan:He also went forward, um, and we sort of made a commitment
Trish Morgan:to, to become a Christian.
Trish Morgan:And I think at seven you are young and you just carry on living life, don't you?
Trish Morgan:And being raised in a Christian family.
Trish Morgan:And it really wasn't until I got into my teens that I started to.
Trish Morgan:Think one more time about why I believed, why I believed it.
Trish Morgan:Asked my parents some really difficult questions, um,
Trish Morgan:but came to that conclusion.
Trish Morgan:You know what?
Trish Morgan:There were certain things I couldn't get away from.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:, I believed in, um, the stories in the Bible.
Trish Morgan:I could believe the archeology proved some of the things that the Bible was talking.
Trish Morgan:And then it was just a decision as to either Jesus really was who he said
Trish Morgan:he was, or he was an absolute nutter and we've all been totally deluded
Trish Morgan:and, you know, that kind of thing.
Trish Morgan:So, um, I thought, you know, I, I'd see so much goodness in this person and,
Trish Morgan:and, and the things that he did and the things that he said and the way he
Trish Morgan:elevated women, particularly I was drawn to, and I thought, I can believe this.
Trish Morgan:And I did, uh, when I became a teenager, and to be honest, I've never looked back.
Matt Edmundson:That's interesting, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:I two very different sort of backgrounds, uh, in, in so that,
Matt Edmundson:How did you guys get together
Malcolm Morgan:at university?
Malcolm Morgan:Um, Trish's brother was at university with me, began.
Malcolm Morgan:Trish came on to visit him and Steve introduced us.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, so yeah, that's where we
Matt Edmundson:first met.
Matt Edmundson:Okay.
Matt Edmundson:So was Trisha's brother one of the mates that led you to Christ, or was
Matt Edmundson:he just somebody you got to know?
Malcolm Morgan:He was one of the mates
Malcolm Morgan:who, um, then discipled me for the next few years more.
Malcolm Morgan:He didn't lead me to the Lord at that time, but, um, we became good friends
Malcolm Morgan:and he was, he discipled me really well.
Malcolm Morgan:He, the next few years.
Matt Edmundson:So for the good folks listening that may not know, um, what
Matt Edmundson:you mean when you say he discipled me, just explain what that means.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Talk me through life following Jesus and what it
Malcolm Morgan:means and how you live your life.
Malcolm Morgan:Therefore, how you handle money, how you handle relationships, work the whole lot.
Malcolm Morgan:You, um, it's a teaching about how to follow Jesus.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Morgan:, Trish Morgan: that's my older brother.
Malcolm Morgan:I do also have to say was he might have discipled Malcolm for a while.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, that when Malcolm and I decided about a year, 18 months later to
Malcolm Morgan:date my brother, Rather concerned.
Malcolm Morgan:And he took me to one side and he started to tell me all the bad things that Malcolm
Malcolm Morgan:like, Great friend, great friend,
Trish Morgan:you wanna date him.
Trish Morgan:He's very unreliable.
Trish Morgan:And he started telling me story of the time that Malcolm had, you
Trish Morgan:know, stood a girl up at a cinema and not turned up and all that.
Trish Morgan:And there, and he had this private conversation with me
Trish Morgan:and that was in the other room.
Trish Morgan:And I left.
Trish Morgan:I said to my big brother, Thanks very much for that Steve.
Trish Morgan:I said, but I think I'm quite fancy him, so if it's all right with you,
Trish Morgan:I'd like to see where this goes.
Trish Morgan:And the walk back into the room, he's a bit nervous and
Trish Morgan:he's saying, What did he say?
Trish Morgan:What did he say?
Trish Morgan:And I said, Him, if you ever stand me up me by, if you ever me up at this cinema,
Malcolm Morgan:there was a good reason that
Trish Morgan:we haven't got time's.
Matt Edmundson:That's just brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:Rather Well, Well here.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, that's brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:And I, That was actually true.
Matt Edmundson:She answered my question.
Matt Edmundson:Cause I'm think.
Matt Edmundson:. Okay.
Matt Edmundson:So I'm think, cuz I have a daughter, Zoe, and I was thinking, well if
Matt Edmundson:Josh, um, Was discipling somebody at uni or Zach, you know, someone who
Matt Edmundson:just become a Christian and they met Zoe and decided to start dating Zoe.
Matt Edmundson:I would expect my boys to take that guy aside and have a very
Matt Edmundson:strong conversation with them.
Matt Edmundson:And so I was curious to know if Steve did this, but it sounds like
Matt Edmundson:he didn't talk to you, Malcolm.
Matt Edmundson:He talked to Trish, tried to, Yeah, that's
Trish Morgan:right.
Trish Morgan:But you know, Did, Did okay.
Trish Morgan:All went full circle.
Trish Morgan:Steven turned up, he was the best man in our wedding.
Trish Morgan:So
Trish Morgan:. So
Matt Edmundson:the best man's speech must have been brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:Well,
Malcolm Morgan:yeah, thank you.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Tell that story.
Trish Morgan:If you could take that bit out,
Matt Edmundson:there's fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:That's fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:So,
Matt Edmundson:, Malcolm Morgan: we were
Matt Edmundson:He knew my weaknesses and all the rest.
Matt Edmundson:Oh no, it's great, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:And yeah, yeah, it's really coolness.
Matt Edmundson:And then I find, like at uni, I became lifelong friends at uni with a couple of.
Matt Edmundson:We're still friends.
Matt Edmundson:In fact, I'm gonna go see one of them tomorrow down in London.
Matt Edmundson:Um, a guy called Tony who's been on the podcast, uh, his wife's
Matt Edmundson:actually been on, what's the story talking about dealing with cancer.
Matt Edmundson:He's been on Crowd Church, but we met at uni and we're still mates now.
Matt Edmundson:And there's something about this time isn't there at uni when you are
Matt Edmundson:young in your faith where getting around other Christian people just
Matt Edmundson:seems like the really smart thing to do and it, it brings these sort
Matt Edmundson:of lifelong friendships, Doesn't.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, and I think the discipleship that happens there, you
Malcolm Morgan:at the same age as the last time where people are the same age together.
Malcolm Morgan:Once you leave university, you go to
Matt Edmundson:jobs.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:It's true last time that
Malcolm Morgan:age group is together and I think it's a brilliant time to
Malcolm Morgan:disciple and, and get Jesus known, you know, some of the university work
Malcolm Morgan:fusion do at universities Superb.
Matt Edmundson:Really good point.
Matt Edmundson:So you guys meet at uni, you start dating, When did you get married?
Trish Morgan:Oh wow.
Trish Morgan:Yeah, about three or four years later.
Trish Morgan:After, because I was working in London.
Trish Morgan:I was, I trained as nurse.
Trish Morgan:Okay, so I was a nurse.
Trish Morgan:He was training as a teacher.
Trish Morgan:Um, and so we sort of, and then I traveled a lot and then I joined the band.
Trish Morgan:So it wasn't very easy.
Trish Morgan:We weren't sort of, um, you know, um, in the same town around the corner from
Trish Morgan:one another dating, we, we, we took, yeah, took quite a lot of time apart
Trish Morgan:because traveling and, and things.
Trish Morgan:So yeah.
Trish Morgan:Good few years, probably about four from the first time that we met to
Trish Morgan:the time that we finally got married
Trish Morgan:okay.
Matt Edmundson:And tell me about the band then.
Trish Morgan:Mm, the band were full-time, Christian band at that time.
Trish Morgan:I mean, I loved music.
Trish Morgan:I, um, I was happy to play wherever, whenever, um, but I just got this
Trish Morgan:fantastic opportunity, um, to join a full-time, um, band and Christian band.
Trish Morgan:They're called Heartbeat, and I joined them in the early eighties
Trish Morgan:and I traveled all over the uk.
Trish Morgan:We played loads of different venues, um, you know, colleges, university
Trish Morgan:schools, prisons, you name it.
Trish Morgan:And churches, we did that too.
Trish Morgan:Um, we recorded, we wrote songs.
Trish Morgan:Um, and yeah, it was a fantastic training.
Trish Morgan:Good foundational thing for me as a songwriting musician to.
Trish Morgan:And at some point we got married and Mel joined a team as the first
Trish Morgan:time, First non-musical member?
Trish Morgan:Non musical member.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:. He became the youth worker.
Trish Morgan:So at an MC event.
Trish Morgan:So when we did events, Mel would be the mc, the youth worker.
Trish Morgan:Um, and we, so we traveled together then for about six years, Was it six years?
Trish Morgan:Wow.
Trish Morgan:Oh.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, there we go.
Matt Edmundson:Well, so you early married couple, traveling around for six years doing
Matt Edmundson:the Christian music, youth worker stuff.
Matt Edmundson:That must have been an absolute riot.
Matt Edmundson:Surely.
Matt Edmundson:It
Malcolm Morgan:was a great time.
Malcolm Morgan:Some amazing stories, um, some incredible things we saw.
Malcolm Morgan:We were based in Marnsbury in Wilshire.
Malcolm Morgan:The team were there.
Malcolm Morgan:We had our own homes.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, we, people came and, and stopped diverse.
Malcolm Morgan:There was shared homes, uh, but it was a brilliant time.
Trish Morgan:Very formative I think in terms of ministry for us even,
Trish Morgan:you know, like we were late twenties, um, and you know, we then all started
Trish Morgan:to have kids amongst us, so we.
Trish Morgan:We were quite like a community to be honest, within, um, we all went to
Trish Morgan:different churches if you wanted to, but we didn't get much time because
Trish Morgan:we were constantly on the road, constantly at churches leading their
Trish Morgan:worship, um, that kind of thing.
Trish Morgan:So we were quite forefront runners to the worship revolution that happened,
Trish Morgan:you know, and, um, So mixing the contemporary rock music kind of
Trish Morgan:thing to worship songs, which before there'd been a, a real, you know, a
Trish Morgan:division between nice hymn-y songs.
Trish Morgan:And so we were, um, experimenting, I guess with the songs that we were writing
Trish Morgan:and wanting it to be extremely modern and contemporary and writing songs
Trish Morgan:that, that people could sing as well.
Trish Morgan:A anthemic kind of stuff.
Trish Morgan:So yeah.
Trish Morgan:Um, fantastic experience.
Trish Morgan:We saw, like Matt says, incredible things and we still meet people
Trish Morgan:anywhere around the world and that's their lie, that walk up to us and
Trish Morgan:goes, Can I ask you a question?
Trish Morgan:Did you used to be in a band called Heartbeat?
Trish Morgan:And if you say Yes, then we hear this amazing story of what happened when
Trish Morgan:they went to one of our concerts, how they got saved, how they, God
Trish Morgan:did an amazing miracle in their lives, in their families, and.
Trish Morgan:It's really exciting and it carries on this day . It's fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:That's, that's an amazing legacy, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:That's, uh, in the church we like to use the analogy of seeds planted and Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:And you just never know when God's gonna bear fruit with those seeds, do you?
Matt Edmundson:And, and here you are.
Malcolm Morgan:It's very humbling as well to hear people's
Malcolm Morgan:lives, lives 20 years later.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:How influenced them at that time?
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, that is, Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Crazy.
Malcolm Morgan:Just.
Matt Edmundson:Well, that must thrill you when you actually, when
Matt Edmundson:they come up and say things like that, you're just the hallmark as
Trish Morgan:Absolutely.
Trish Morgan:I mean, to go full circle at present, we, uh, in the summer we, um, spent
Trish Morgan:an evening around a couple's house at the new church that Malc is now the
Trish Morgan:senior minister of, and the guy just offered the fact that, um, he became a
Trish Morgan:Christian, one of our concerts in, um, in Bradford and Avon, and I never knew.
Trish Morgan:And, and now he's married, he's had kids.
Trish Morgan:Um, you know, and I mean we're now fast forwarding about 30 odd years and you're
Trish Morgan:thinking, Well, who knew ? That's amazing.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Yeah, it is great.
Trish Morgan:Absolutely fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:It's privilege.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, it is.
Matt Edmundson:It's one of those things, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:And you listen stories like that, it thrills you and you're
Matt Edmundson:really excited because you just.
Matt Edmundson:When you do stuff, you don't always see God's hand at work
Matt Edmundson:at that point in time, do you?
Matt Edmundson:You, uh, whether it's doing a concert, whether it's writing a book, or doing a
Matt Edmundson:podcast or doing a sermon, you don't know.
Matt Edmundson:You can, you can see certain things, but what you see, I think is very
Matt Edmundson:limited compared to the eternal work that sometimes God's doing.
Matt Edmundson:And here you are 20 years later meeting these people and you're
Matt Edmundson:just like, Oh my goodness.
Matt Edmundson:I just
Trish Morgan:really, And I think that's the, that's the most exciting thing.
Trish Morgan:Having an adventure of faith in God is that you have no idea what God can plan
Trish Morgan:and prepare and purpose for, for you.
Trish Morgan:You just don't know.
Trish Morgan:You couldn't write it if you tried.
Trish Morgan:Um, but God does have that and he does have that in mind.
Trish Morgan:You know, that's what it says in the scripture.
Trish Morgan:You believe that from the Jeremiah, the plans and purposes, he has to prosperous
Trish Morgan:and give us a future and give us a hope, and that kind of thing is what God has.
Trish Morgan:Uh, and will do.
Trish Morgan:It's not still do listening back now, but just saying, Yeah,
Trish Morgan:they were the good old days.
Trish Morgan:Well, actually we believe that we got a new story to tell today.
Trish Morgan:We don't have to hark back to, oh, remember 40 years ago.
Trish Morgan:It's great when we get the moment, but we can tell you story after story
Trish Morgan:of stuff that's happened even now.
Trish Morgan:You know, on
Malcolm Morgan:Sunday, um, retired minister was speaking at
Malcolm Morgan:our church and he said how they opened a school up in Uganda.
Malcolm Morgan:And he was in the rural district and you know, they thought they were just
Malcolm Morgan:helping A few poor were children.
Malcolm Morgan:And he went back there recently and Scott speaking to an ex pupil who'd
Malcolm Morgan:started a movement in the country, um, rebuilding a lot of the schools
Malcolm Morgan:in the whole, in the whole country.
Malcolm Morgan:And he says, What you don't realize is you were changing a nation.
Malcolm Morgan:What you did change the nation.
Malcolm Morgan:We might never get to hear some of those, some of that fruit do hear, see that.
Malcolm Morgan:But God did work and you've gotta believe that.
Matt Edmundson:Ah, it's incredible, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:One of the things that's always, uh, inspired me about you two and I
Matt Edmundson:I do think you're a super inspiring couple, is this, , inability to
Matt Edmundson:rest on what happened yesterday.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, and the, the desire to go, God, what have you got for today?
Matt Edmundson:And where do I need to be planning to be tomorrow?
Matt Edmundson:Right.
Matt Edmundson:Subject to me still being here.
Matt Edmundson:And you're kind of like, yes.
Matt Edmundson:You've, you've, you've always had that kind of drive, that
Matt Edmundson:kind of desire to see that.
Matt Edmundson:Where did that come from?
Matt Edmundson:Was that something you've had since day one of marriage?
Matt Edmundson:Was it something that you've kind of had to fight for?
Malcolm Morgan:We've, we've always said, Let's make life an adventure with God
Malcolm Morgan:and wherever we've been, we say, Okay, Lord, what do you want us to do here?
Malcolm Morgan:And whatever it is we will say yes to.
Malcolm Morgan:And for me it's, I, I like to belong to a church that says, Yes, we can
Malcolm Morgan:help in, in the society doing this or helping the community doing
Malcolm Morgan:that, whatever it is, I want us always to say, Yes, we can do that.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm.
Malcolm Morgan:And I.
Malcolm Morgan:What we've
Trish Morgan:always tried to do.
Trish Morgan:I think over the years we've realized that part of, I think
Trish Morgan:it's evolved, to be honest.
Trish Morgan:You know, when we were young and married, we just got involved
Trish Morgan:in anything and everything, but slowly but surely, I think.
Trish Morgan:Um, what you can do well comes up to the top.
Trish Morgan:So I think we're good.
Trish Morgan:We're catalyst for change.
Trish Morgan:We come in and we ask questions, Why are we doing it like this?
Trish Morgan:How can we do it better than what's already done?
Trish Morgan:Um, or do we need to stop something and stop something brand new?
Trish Morgan:We like to pioneer, um, be innovative in, in some areas.
Trish Morgan:Um, and always try and make what we're trying to say, um,
Trish Morgan:as accessible as possible.
Trish Morgan:No, hold back all the real religiosity stuff away from it and, and stop over
Trish Morgan:complicating the good news of Jesus.
Trish Morgan:It doesn't have to be so high brown highfaluting.
Trish Morgan:It can be say, look, it is every.
Trish Morgan:Accessible, this good news of Jesus.
Trish Morgan:And so that's what we aim to do, isn't it?
Trish Morgan:We try
Malcolm Morgan:and put in first Roman, isn't it?
Malcolm Morgan:Take your everyday ordinary lives.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And commit them to God.
Trish Morgan:Romans 12 from the message Bible.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, I was gonna say, which translations that
Matt Edmundson:. Trish Morgan: That one's a brilliant
Matt Edmundson:version.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Edmundson:And I think it's, in fact, it's one of the, sort of the verses that Sharon and
Matt Edmundson:I have held on as a married couple be transformed by the ruining of your minds.
Matt Edmundson:Right?
Matt Edmundson:And that whole, um, Uh, don't let this stuff weigh you down.
Matt Edmundson:Just keep going, keep pressing.
Matt Edmundson:I, you know, Paul's, I press on towards the goal of the upward call.
Matt Edmundson:I forget, which is past, and I press on and you read language like that.
Matt Edmundson:And we don't talk like that so much these days, do we?
Matt Edmundson:Uh, but it's, it's inspiring, but I am aware right?
Matt Edmundson:Uh, that if I can draw some comparisons.
Matt Edmundson:You've got the Apostle Paul using language like that, uh, which is
Matt Edmundson:quite pioneering, uh, quite, Let's go take the hill kind of language.
Matt Edmundson:You are using language like we're good at being a catalyst for change.
Matt Edmundson:We're pioneering.
Matt Edmundson:How can I put this delicately?
Matt Edmundson:Not everybody appreciates that call on people.
Matt Edmundson:Right?
Matt Edmundson:It's that phrase, isn't it?
Matt Edmundson:the Apostle Paul is probably not gonna be welcoming most Western
Matt Edmundson:churches if he was around today.
Malcolm Morgan:That's right.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:So how have you, how have you dealt with that tension
Matt Edmundson:that, cuz there must have been a tension, that call and that wrestle
Matt Edmundson:on your lives and actually the reaction of people on occasion.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:I
Malcolm Morgan:think we just want to belong to a church that's relevant in the
Malcolm Morgan:community And I think a lot of churches have become irrelevant.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, you know,
Malcolm Morgan:they have no part almost to play in the community anymore.
Malcolm Morgan:And that angers us.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Morgan:. So yeah, we get misunderstood.
Malcolm Morgan:We get, um, some criticism, but for me, for the joy set before.
Malcolm Morgan:You can do it.
Malcolm Morgan:So
Trish Morgan:I, I called bus earlier on this morning and this
Trish Morgan:bus driver was in full flow.
Trish Morgan:He was waiting to be changed over and he was standing there at the platform
Trish Morgan:of the bus and he was just talking about his schedule for the day.
Trish Morgan:And so I was asking him questions and so I didn't realize that
Trish Morgan:you went on a different route.
Trish Morgan:Now I thought you stayed in the same No, no.
Trish Morgan:I've now got to get a different, Bus and you know, and later on he was going,
Trish Morgan:Guy said, I think you've got a few things you wanna get off your chest,
Trish Morgan:dude, cuz he was really going for it.
Trish Morgan:And he said, Well, to be honest, he said, it's the passengers.
Trish Morgan:And when they keep ringing that bell and then we were laughing and I said,
Trish Morgan:I said, Buses would be great to drive, wouldn't they if you didn't have
Trish Morgan:passengers and churches would be great to run if you didn't have people.
Trish Morgan:But the.
Trish Morgan:We are very human and it's full of people and yeah, it's not easy,
Trish Morgan:especially when they know somebody new's coming in and straight away people
Trish Morgan:thinking, Oh, don't we touch this?
Trish Morgan:This is what I do.
Trish Morgan:And it's, it's worked.
Trish Morgan:And quite honestly, it's worked well.
Trish Morgan:It, we keep it.
Trish Morgan:We don't go in and go, That's rubbish.
Trish Morgan:We're gonna scrap everything.
Trish Morgan:You know, like some politicians we could think of as late.
Trish Morgan:We, we come in, we, we wait to see what works.
Trish Morgan:We all know what works and the people working in it.
Trish Morgan:We don't change things for the sake of change, but then we think.
Trish Morgan:Actually having looked how that works, I think we can actually improve
Trish Morgan:on that and do this a bit better.
Trish Morgan:Mm.
Trish Morgan:Um, so I think it is managing people, managing the expectations,
Trish Morgan:um, trying to make people feel there is functional role for them, but in
Trish Morgan:places where they're gonna shine best.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:So, you know, there's, we all know that when you go into some places you
Trish Morgan:think, and you know what, you are a.
Trish Morgan:Pagan around hole there, that is not working for anybody
Trish Morgan:at all, you or the others.
Trish Morgan:So let's see if we can fit you somewhere else where it does work and where you
Trish Morgan:can shine and where things can be better.
Trish Morgan:So that's the difficulty, Matt.
Trish Morgan:I think sometimes, and it's how we've done that over the years.
Trish Morgan:Um, maybe we've made some mistakes Oh, yeah.
Trish Morgan:Over the years on, in, in attempting that.
Trish Morgan:But we do believe in transitioning and transformation and in doing
Trish Morgan:that, sometimes no pain, no gain.
Matt Edmundson:Mm.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Interesting.
Matt Edmundson:Oh, well done.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, so let's talk about then some of the challenges that you guys are, I mean,
Matt Edmundson:you've had to deal obviously with people.
Matt Edmundson:This often said that, you know, without people there wouldn't be problems.
Matt Edmundson:Um, like you said, the, the passengers on the bus.
Matt Edmundson:I love that analogy.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, so what are some of the big challenges that you have, you guys have faced as
Matt Edmundson:a couple in life and really curious how God brought you through those.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Well, recently, for instance, um, we were working out in Greece.
Malcolm Morgan:Spent seven years out there, um, building community, and then Brexit
Malcolm Morgan:happens and totally throws a spanner in our, in our future, all of a sudden.
Malcolm Morgan:When Brexit was signed, we could only spend three months at a time
Malcolm Morgan:out in Greece, then three months in the uk, three months back out in
Malcolm Morgan:Greece, and it totally messed up.
Malcolm Morgan:The whole purpose of what we were doing, doing there we did.
Malcolm Morgan:And also, what was I gonna do now?
Trish Morgan:Covid.
Trish Morgan:Covid was the worst.
Trish Morgan:I mean, Brexit was the beginning.
Trish Morgan:Beginning, but Covid completely stopped it because we found ourselves four months
Trish Morgan:locked in either in Greece or in England.
Trish Morgan:We took it in terms to be locked down in different nations.
Trish Morgan:Um, but two years of that.
Trish Morgan:Plus Brexit just really pulled apart what we were trying to do moving forward.
Trish Morgan:It took away the momentum to be
Malcolm Morgan:honest, and all of a sudden you're thinking, six months in
Malcolm Morgan:England, what do I do at that time?
Malcolm Morgan:I can't, You can't be part-time in Greece.
Malcolm Morgan:And that's it.
Malcolm Morgan:So, you know, it, it is, It meant change and we weren't sure what it meant.
Malcolm Morgan:And just over a year ago, we are back in the UK really praying about our future.
Malcolm Morgan:What, what does it mean?
Malcolm Morgan:Our time and greases come into an end?
Malcolm Morgan:How do we manage that?
Malcolm Morgan:And all of a sudden this job appears in, in Andrew's church,
Malcolm Morgan:they're looking for a new minister.
Malcolm Morgan:They'd advertised and hadn't appointed, and they were having to re advertise.
Malcolm Morgan:And then I got told about it and I just had a, a chat with the
Malcolm Morgan:vicar of the, of the main church.
Malcolm Morgan:And he said, Well, if you're the right person, we'll know
Malcolm Morgan:that and I, and go for the job.
Malcolm Morgan:And it opens up and think, okay.
Malcolm Morgan:I, it wasn't what I would choose in Anglican Church, but you've
Malcolm Morgan:opened up this door and I would say yes, and I'll go through it
Trish Morgan:and it provided us with a home cuz we don't own anything.
Trish Morgan:So we were renting in Greece and you know, um, you know,
Trish Morgan:praise God this job comes with.
Trish Morgan:House.
Trish Morgan:And so therefore we've been provided now the house with the job.
Trish Morgan:Um, and we can just see how in the natural, there were moments where
Trish Morgan:we sat then going, Okay, so this work is, we cannot justify staying
Trish Morgan:out in Greece and being supported and getting everybody around us.
Trish Morgan:And the, the refugee work was closing cuz the government had, um, made the
Trish Morgan:camps, quarantine, you know, areas.
Trish Morgan:It just was closing down we thought.
Trish Morgan:You know, we can see it's closing down.
Trish Morgan:What are we gonna do?
Trish Morgan:Where are we gonna go?
Trish Morgan:What's gonna happen?
Trish Morgan:And you know, maybe if you, in your thirties, you just
Trish Morgan:think, ah, something will.
Trish Morgan:Drop down.
Trish Morgan:But when you are, you know, early, late fifties early, early sixties.
Trish Morgan:Early sixties, that's a very different conversation to be having.
Trish Morgan:Um, and, you know, to keep living like the way we have always chosen to live since
Trish Morgan:we've married that we would trust God for our futures, for our finances, for,
Trish Morgan:for whatever, um, was a big step for us.
Trish Morgan:And, and yet it dropped so well.
Trish Morgan:Did the um, interview unanimously saying, Hey, you're the right person for this job.
Trish Morgan:Great for St.
Trish Morgan:Andrews, great for us.
Trish Morgan:And it's just been a real blessing, hasn't
Malcolm Morgan:it?
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And I think it's, It's like Paul, he wanted to go one area
Malcolm Morgan:and the Holy Spirit stopped him.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And then next day he got a call in into Greece and sometimes you, you could
Malcolm Morgan:say, Okay, this is what's opening.
Malcolm Morgan:I'll go through this door and see what's on the inside.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And it's, it makes lives and adventure and that's what we've always done, doesn't it?
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:It doesn't always go the way we want it to.
Trish Morgan:No.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah,
Trish Morgan:sometimes we've gone about it in a very convoluted way, but we get
Trish Morgan:there like, life isn't linear, is it?
Trish Morgan:It's not a straight, No, it's not.
Trish Morgan:Here we go.
Trish Morgan:It's a Ziggy zaggy and that's how life is for us as well.
Trish Morgan:We're not any different to anybody else.
Trish Morgan:We have our lows, we have our difficulties.
Trish Morgan:Um, but we pull God into all of that and say, Help us.
Trish Morgan:And if we need to get help ourselves beyond asking the
Trish Morgan:Lord, we'll ask for their help.
Trish Morgan:Uh, because life isn't easy.
Trish Morgan:Uh, it is challenging, but we just have to say, Okay, today's a new day.
Trish Morgan:Let's see what we can make and, um, you know, adventure together on it.
Malcolm Morgan:You know, we, we've got twins and one of the
Malcolm Morgan:biggest issues we had to make sure our twins were safe and happy.
Malcolm Morgan:When we moved, they moved with us and we had to make sure that they
Malcolm Morgan:were well looked after as well.
Malcolm Morgan:We didn't wanna lose our kids on our journey.
Malcolm Morgan:We wanted them come with us on that adventure.
Malcolm Morgan:And they did.
Malcolm Morgan:And they, they were brilliant over the years.
Malcolm Morgan:So
Trish Morgan:shout out to Aaron and Freya.
Trish Morgan:We love you, Yeah,
Trish Morgan:. Matt Edmundson: Cool.
Trish Morgan:So how did, um, that's a really interesting point, right?
Trish Morgan:So you guys, uh, have done the, you know, the moving around the church plants,
Trish Morgan:the, the, the missionary work in Greece, the stuff with the refugees in Greece.
Trish Morgan:We get time.
Trish Morgan:We'll touch on that cause that's incredible.
Trish Morgan:You do all this amazing stuff and yet in the middle of
Trish Morgan:this, you've also got family.
Trish Morgan:Right.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:You've got the kids, you've got the grandkids.
Trish Morgan:How did you, the, I guess, how did, what were some of the intentional things that
Trish Morgan:you did as parents to, to keep that family strong and, you know, how did you do that?
Malcolm Morgan:We were, yeah, we were in Lincoln.
Malcolm Morgan:We were.
Malcolm Morgan:Both working in the, you know, for the church.
Malcolm Morgan:We were, I was an elder.
Malcolm Morgan:I was looking obviously in the youth, the young adults, um, Trisha in the worship.
Malcolm Morgan:And one day our twins turned around to us and said, They're
Malcolm Morgan:about seven or eight years old.
Malcolm Morgan:You're not both going out again, are you Inly?
Malcolm Morgan:And that made us stop.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm.
Malcolm Morgan:We realized that.
Malcolm Morgan:They were beginning to suffer from the work we were doing.
Malcolm Morgan:So we reevaluated, we stopped, and we took
Trish Morgan:one weekend a month where we just spent time with them as, as a family.
Trish Morgan:I didn't take any booking to travel.
Trish Morgan:Uh, we didn't take any extra things ourselves.
Trish Morgan:Uh, we had either stayed, you know, at home in Lincoln and we did Saturday a day
Trish Morgan:out, or we'd do something on the Sunday.
Trish Morgan:So we were home or we went away for the weekend.
Trish Morgan:Um, we just wanted the kids to know that one weekend a month was family
Trish Morgan:weekend, so that they knew that we weren't forever spending every minute
Trish Morgan:of our day, um, with other people.
Trish Morgan:And for other things, I think they needed to know they were important to us and
Trish Morgan:they were, they were our first primary concern that through everything that we
Trish Morgan:did, um, our kids, we didn't put them off.
Trish Morgan:Following Jesus is that
Malcolm Morgan:story where if you're in an office and your kid walks into your
Malcolm Morgan:office, you turn away from your desk.
Malcolm Morgan:And you give them time first to show them than your work.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:So we tried to, we've tried to put that,
Trish Morgan:yeah, we found care for the family, very helpful.
Trish Morgan:Um, as we were, you know, bringing up our kids parenting, you know,
Trish Morgan:Rob Parsons had some fantastic, um, things to mention about the
Trish Morgan:60 minute father and all of that.
Trish Morgan:Being present.
Trish Morgan:And I think that's it, isn't it?
Trish Morgan:It is giving your kids that, that that focus and attention and I guess maybe
Trish Morgan:the lockdown made everybody reawaken one more time about family and Yeah.
Trish Morgan:And children.
Trish Morgan:And the time that you hadn't had that, you certainly had.
Trish Morgan:When lockdown occurred.
Trish Morgan:Um, and a lot of reevaluation went on there as well, didn't it?
Trish Morgan:But, so I don't know.
Trish Morgan:We didn't get every decision right.
Trish Morgan:But certainly on the big ones, I think we, we feel at peace with the
Trish Morgan:cause that we've made over the years.
Trish Morgan:And now our kids have grown up, they're married, got their own kids
Trish Morgan:themselves, Little ones Chinese both
Malcolm Morgan:serving in, in their
Trish Morgan:churches.
Trish Morgan:It is great.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, it's good.
Matt Edmundson:And do you, do you do?
Matt Edmundson:I've, I mean, I've, my kids are not at the same sort of age, you know, I've, uh, um,
Matt Edmundson:but I'm, I don't think I'm that far off.
Matt Edmundson:. And you, and you kind of, I'm curious to know, right?
Matt Edmundson:You go from this phase of being parents to being grandparents.
Matt Edmundson:Um, what's that like, if you can describe it?
Trish Morgan:What the gap between or the phase, Like cuz we had nearly nine years
Trish Morgan:when our kids had done uni, they win jobs.
Trish Morgan:They'd find their life partners.
Trish Morgan:That's why we looked at Greece because Greece for us was such a big ask.
Trish Morgan:It was like wild to go into a culture where we didn't speak the
Trish Morgan:language to begin with anyway.
Trish Morgan:Um, and do something very radical and see if.
Trish Morgan:Start a missional community out in Greece because there was so
Trish Morgan:little of that kind of thing.
Trish Morgan:Um, but we had this opportunity of 7, 8, 9 years where our little,
Trish Morgan:our kids didn't have little ones.
Trish Morgan:And so therefore, you know, our kids were just getting on with
Trish Morgan:life and growing up and, you know, they didn't need us around so much.
Trish Morgan:So we felt we had this winter of opportunity and I think a lot of
Trish Morgan:people in their fifties and sixties can have that moment if they want, but
Trish Morgan:they think, Hey, there's many more.
Trish Morgan:For us in energy and our, why don't we do something?
Trish Morgan:You know?
Trish Morgan:And I know that there are ministries and charities aching to have people
Trish Morgan:of maturity and wisdom go and say, We'll come and journey with you for
Trish Morgan:couple of years, even if you don't do seven like we did, you know?
Trish Morgan:Um, So we took that and then slowly but surely towards the end of this, the
Trish Morgan:first seven years we were there, our kids started to say, Hey, we're having a kid.
Trish Morgan:We're having a, a little one.
Trish Morgan:Um, that got hard because suddenly we wanted to be back in the uk.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:More available for them, more available to be supportive.
Trish Morgan:And at the same time, um, you know, particularly my mom, she
Trish Morgan:became, um, yeah, terminally ill.
Trish Morgan:So obviously that really started to pull me back to the UK quite a.
Trish Morgan:Um, so, you know, how do we manage it?
Trish Morgan:It's seasons,
Malcolm Morgan:isn't it?
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And you know, just love our grandchildren so much.
Malcolm Morgan:The best thing ever, cuz you.
Malcolm Morgan:Spend a day with them and you get lost in their world and the rest of the world.
Malcolm Morgan:All the issues, problems you forget about for the day.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:, and there's such, there's so is a privilege to spend time with yet
Trish Morgan:another generation coming through.
Trish Morgan:They're only tinies right now.
Trish Morgan:We've got four under four.
Trish Morgan:But when you do the bedtime stories, here we go again.
Trish Morgan:Let's get out the book.
Trish Morgan:Let's get out the story book about Jesus and their little minds and
Trish Morgan:hearts are just taking it all in.
Trish Morgan:Precious.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, I imagine it is.
Matt Edmundson:It must be quite fascinating watching your.
Matt Edmundson:Raise kids.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Being parents, boy
Malcolm Morgan:and, and biting your lip at times.
Malcolm Morgan:Thinking
Trish Morgan:Really?
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:You can't get them to sleep.
Trish Morgan:, Matt Edmundson: There's that
Trish Morgan:just for That's what that was.
Trish Morgan:I always found, uh, I don't.
Trish Morgan:Can't imagine your kids would be like this, but I, I always found that every
Trish Morgan:generation of parents, newborn parents that I've come across feels like they
Trish Morgan:know how to parent better than their parents and that their level of wisdom,
Trish Morgan:understanding is so much further advanced.
Trish Morgan:Right?
Trish Morgan:So when we had kids, um, you know, is very different obviously to when mum had me.
Trish Morgan:I mean, technology was different and all that sort of stuff, and.
Trish Morgan:I would, in my head, I'd be like, So therefore whatever advice gives
Trish Morgan:me is obviously not relevant.
Trish Morgan:25 years later.
Trish Morgan:I now sit back, uh, a few years after that and think what a plonker,
Malcolm Morgan:I think.
Malcolm Morgan:I think today there's all these.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, books available and advice.
Malcolm Morgan:Right.
Malcolm Morgan:It just
Trish Morgan:keeps changing all the time.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:Especially, you know, health visitors and that, and you think, well, you didn't do
Trish Morgan:so bad, you know, when we were meeting you and everything else and, and now look.
Trish Morgan:So yeah, it is different, but you know, it is learning to let
Trish Morgan:them raise their own children.
Trish Morgan:We don't live close to our kids either, which is a bit of a shame at
Trish Morgan:times, Especially during lockdown.
Trish Morgan:It was awful.
Trish Morgan:We were on our own in England.
Trish Morgan:Um, nowhere near our children, but you know, we do get to see them
Trish Morgan:far more than we would've done now.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Had this in Greece and that's a real blessing and that was something very
Trish Morgan:deliberately and intentional that we've, um, done and wanted to happen.
Trish Morgan:Um, cuz they're not tiny-s forever.
Matt Edmundson:Mm-hmm.
Matt Edmundson:. No, that's very true.
Matt Edmundson:Very true.
Matt Edmundson:So, , you've obviously faced some whole massive challenges, and yet here you are,
Matt Edmundson:you're still going, your kids are still friends with you, you know, and you are
Matt Edmundson:obviously in love with your grandkids.
Matt Edmundson:I mean, by all.
Matt Edmundson:By all my measuring standards that, that, that equals success.
Matt Edmundson:Right.
Matt Edmundson:And, and you, and you are, you've still got hearts for Christ, God's
Matt Edmundson:still doing great things through you.
Matt Edmundson:I, I everything just sort of checks and you look at that and
Matt Edmundson:go, That's, that's incredible.
Matt Edmundson:So if I could ask you to distill your, you know, I think every Christian
Matt Edmundson:has kind of one message, don't they?
Matt Edmundson:That they sort of come back to time and time again, something
Matt Edmundson:that's dear and important to them.
Matt Edmundson:What would yours be?
Matt Edmundson:Would it be the same, Would you have slightly different ones between the two?
Malcolm Morgan:probably slightly different For me, I, I want to
Malcolm Morgan:belong to a church that says yes to the opportunities in the community.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm.
Malcolm Morgan:And if an opportunity comes up to serve a community in whatever
Malcolm Morgan:capacity or a council, I want us to say, Yes, we can do that unless
Malcolm Morgan:there's a very good reason not to.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Morgan:Because I want us to be involved in, in the community, in, in the city we're in.
Malcolm Morgan:So for me, Just the church that likes
Trish Morgan:to say yes.
Trish Morgan:I think that reflects in one or two of the stories you've got in the book.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Especially the South Africa chapter, the 94.7 bike race where we said
Trish Morgan:yes on one thing and it was just like a gift that kept on giving.
Trish Morgan:It was incredible time of that.
Trish Morgan:So there's, there's moments like that isn't there.
Trish Morgan:I think for me it will be.
Trish Morgan:What the book is saying, that there is more, There's higher heights,
Trish Morgan:there's deep seas for us to have.
Trish Morgan:Don't settle for too little.
Trish Morgan:Don't settle for the status quo.
Trish Morgan:Everybody tends to like the comfort zone.
Trish Morgan:We all like the comfort zone, but you know, when you start to
Trish Morgan:step out of that comfort zone.
Trish Morgan:All I can say for me and for Malc is that God has been there for us.
Trish Morgan:He has, he has matched every step that we've taken and then taken
Trish Morgan:us further and blessed us and, and looked after us and helped us.
Trish Morgan:No end.
Trish Morgan:Um, and so therefore, I would say to people, you know, don't just sit, sit
Trish Morgan:back and settle for the sake of settling.
Trish Morgan:You know, um, some people just can live in the same house, do
Trish Morgan:the same job, live in the same.
Trish Morgan:For the rest of their lives.
Trish Morgan:Okay, great.
Trish Morgan:If that's what you really feel.
Trish Morgan:Meanwhile, you can affect your neighborhood and make
Trish Morgan:a difference, That's fine.
Trish Morgan:And not everybody can do what we've done.
Trish Morgan:But at the end of the day, I do think if you, if you know God and you wanna
Trish Morgan:follow him, you wanna be obedient.
Trish Morgan:I'm pretty sure God's saying there's an adventure for you to have.
Trish Morgan:You've just gotta, trust me, you gotta obey me and you gotta take
Trish Morgan:those risks and the ones of faith.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:And he wont let you down.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Love that.
Matt Edmundson:Cause they say often, don't they, that faith is spelled r i s k or is
Matt Edmundson:it Ram risk is spelled f i a t h.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:And so I think it's a, it's a brilliant, um, it's, it's a brilliant thing to say.
Matt Edmundson:I guess a question for you, Malcolm then, uh, you wanna be
Matt Edmundson:part of a church that says yes.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:I grew up in a generation that, um, I think saw opportunity and seized it.
Matt Edmundson:That was, that was sort of what happened.
Matt Edmundson:And this is, so when you say we see an opportunity, uh, we say yes, we see
Matt Edmundson:a eve, we say yes, we get involved.
Matt Edmundson:I, I remember hearing the story of the guy that started kids club, whose name
Matt Edmundson:escapes me now, the, the chap from New York, Bill somebody or other, wasn't it?
Matt Edmundson:Um, and he said that whole ministry started just because he saw a need.
Matt Edmundson:And he was like, Well, no.
Matt Edmundson:This, doing this, therefore I'll go and sort it out.
Matt Edmundson:And, um, he got involved in amazing things happened as a result.
Matt Edmundson:But there's a, there's a, I can hear a thousand people listening to the
Matt Edmundson:podcast going, Well, hang on a minute.
Matt Edmundson:Does that not lead to burnout?
Matt Edmundson:But we almost wanna put safeguards around that statement, which I think
Matt Edmundson:you must find deeply frustrating.
Malcolm Morgan:Yes, I think the church could do much more
Malcolm Morgan:than it's currently doing.
Malcolm Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Malcolm Morgan:, we've got the capacity to do more.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, and I think every church is struggling with volunteers to get on doing the church
Malcolm Morgan:work, the the kids work, the Christ work at at present, but there's a hurting
Malcolm Morgan:world outside and perhaps our focus needs to be more outward looking and.
Malcolm Morgan:for me.
Malcolm Morgan:You know, one of the guys in the church had, I want us to visit all the houses in
Malcolm Morgan:the estate so they know, need to make our, our name known that they know what St.
Malcolm Morgan:Andrews doing.
Malcolm Morgan:We said, Yeah, let's do it.
Malcolm Morgan:And to gathered a team together, 12 of them, and they go out knocking in
Malcolm Morgan:every door in the estate introducing themselves and what the church is
Malcolm Morgan:doing and how we can we help them.
Malcolm Morgan:And it's some brilliant conversations.
Malcolm Morgan:So I think it just needs a good team around you.
Malcolm Morgan:And yes, you, you need your rest, you need your recovery time.
Malcolm Morgan:It is tiring.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, but it's the, it's for what's ahead of you, you know, it's, um, I mean,
Trish Morgan:maybe people these days don't want the inconvenience and, you
Trish Morgan:know, um, people choose these days.
Trish Morgan:It is a choose, isn't it?
Trish Morgan:And then a choice.
Trish Morgan:And we're, we're, we're in a sort of a consumer culture.
Trish Morgan:Um, and there's other things that take people's attention away from, from
Trish Morgan:church and whereas maybe 20, 30 years.
Trish Morgan:You could have thought, oh, you'll burn yourself out cause
Trish Morgan:you're doing too much for church.
Trish Morgan:I don't know if that's the same anymore.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:, I think people might burn themselves out doing life because they're too
Trish Morgan:busy trying to spin too many plates.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:We do need to make a decision.
Trish Morgan:We made a decision, um, that there was some things that
Trish Morgan:we weren't gonna do anymore.
Trish Morgan:Um, so that we could, you know, easy, a little bit easier on
Trish Morgan:our kids and on our family.
Trish Morgan:But we didn't come so drastically down that we felt we weren't serving
Trish Morgan:the kingdom and we weren't following what God wanted in our lives.
Trish Morgan:And, um, for us it has been sacrifice.
Trish Morgan:Um, it has been inconvenient.
Trish Morgan:It hasn't always been easy.
Trish Morgan:Um, but I, I wouldn't trade it for the world because.
Trish Morgan:For what we have gained and what we see.
Trish Morgan:Um, I think everything has been worth it.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:I think that scripture, isn't it?
Malcolm Morgan:Store up yourselves.
Malcolm Morgan:Treasures in heaven.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And that's to do with what we do and how we serve the kingdom.
Trish Morgan:So yeah.
Trish Morgan:I hope that's a jacuzzi because like, I'm really hoping.
Trish Morgan:Gold and crusty
Matt Edmundson:jacuzzi.
Matt Edmundson:God, I just wanna slide down the streets in my socks.
Matt Edmundson:That's all I'm saying.
Matt Edmundson:I just wanna, I just wanna go and keep on going.
Matt Edmundson:Um, Bizarre . So.
Matt Edmundson:. I, I find for me, one of the constant challenges in life with what I do, cuz
Matt Edmundson:I, I run a church, but I run a business, you know, and I, I, I'm, I feel like
Matt Edmundson:I'm juggling 25,000 plates sometimes.
Matt Edmundson:And that's just the nature of God's call on my life.
Matt Edmundson:And, okay, I'm, I'm, it's, but I find sometimes I'm offer, I often pursue
Matt Edmundson:a lifestyle rather than pursuing God.
Matt Edmundson:Now what I mean by that is I spend a lot of my time, some would say quite
Matt Edmundson:rightly, focused on paying the mortgage.
Matt Edmundson:For a bigger, better house or a bigger, better car or all that sort of stuff, and
Matt Edmundson:you become so embroiled in that, that you.
Matt Edmundson:That you almost stop pursuing God and pursuing God becomes quite
Matt Edmundson:difficult to do and that, and then that leads to the statements of
Matt Edmundson:why I'm, I'm getting burnt out.
Matt Edmundson:I, I can't do home group tonight because, you know, life over here.
Matt Edmundson:This pursuit of, I'm doing me wrong.
Matt Edmundson:I appreciate that life is hectic and crazy and busyness.
Matt Edmundson:I'm not saying it's to condemn people.
Matt Edmundson:I'm saying it because it's a challenge to me often.
Matt Edmundson:What am I pursuing?
Matt Edmundson:Am I pursuing lifestyle?
Matt Edmundson:What am I pursuing, God?
Matt Edmundson:And those choices to deliberately downgrade my lifestyle, to create
Matt Edmundson:capacity and space to pursue God.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:And not easy decisions to make at the time, but they are life giving
Matt Edmundson:over a period of time, right?
Trish Morgan:Absolutely.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:I, And you know, we say this, you cannot outgive God in time, talent, or treasure.
Trish Morgan:You can.
Trish Morgan:Um, and we have known that throughout our lives.
Trish Morgan:And, um, you think, Oh, you know, can I afford the time?
Trish Morgan:Well, yeah, you can actually, if you pursue God, you pursue his kingdom, God
Trish Morgan:will give that time back to you and then you really enjoy the rest when it comes.
Trish Morgan:And rest is important.
Trish Morgan:We're not saying go full throttle a hundred percent seven days a week,
Trish Morgan:but not everybody needs their moment where they take a breath and they rest.
Trish Morgan:Um, and we've learned
Matt Edmundson:how do you guys do that?
Matt Edmundson:How do you guys do sabbath?
Matt Edmundson:, Trish Morgan: Uh, we, we tend
Matt Edmundson:we can get out from the city.
Matt Edmundson:Um, we try to be very good about our phones not answering them or
Matt Edmundson:leaving them and that kind of stuff, um, because that's not helpful.
Matt Edmundson:It's distracting at times.
Matt Edmundson:Um, so we tend to do that.
Matt Edmundson:Or if we, we stay here, we'll go for a walk, we do, you know, we try and
Matt Edmundson:do something which is delibertely.
Matt Edmundson:More restful than, you know, work.
Malcolm Morgan:We, we value the day off in the week that we get.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:And we treasure that and make sure we do rest.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:Can I ask you a question about your book?
Matt Edmundson:I'm aware of time, so I wanna get my question in.
Matt Edmundson:So I was reading through your book, which arrived the other day, so I have
Matt Edmundson:to be honest, I've not read the whole thing, but I'm, I'm sucked in Trish.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Next down you.
Matt Edmundson:Um, so, uh, and just to plug the book, Higher Highs, Deeper Sees My
Matt Edmundson:Faith Adventures by Trish Morgan.
Matt Edmundson:You can, I got this on Amazon.
Matt Edmundson:Arrive the next day.
Matt Edmundson:So I'm just gonna read a section here which says I believe in miracles.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, in, uh, in my mid eight, I won't get into what that is.
Matt Edmundson:I also recount stories like the times I met influential politicians for
Matt Edmundson:instant meeting Martin McGinnis just before in, uh, in capital letters.
Matt Edmundson:That handshake, uh, with her Majesty the Queen in 2011.
Matt Edmundson:This is the bit I wanna ask you about spending a day with David Beckham,
Matt Edmundson:filming with the BBC for a show called Live and Kicking, which featured my two
Matt Edmundson:kids is up there as an amazing story too.
Matt Edmundson:And then you go into a paragraph, uh, which doesn't explain
Matt Edmundson:the David Beckham thing.
Matt Edmundson:So I'm like, Hang on a minute, , It's probably about David Beckham.
Trish Morgan:That's the prelude you've just read.
Trish Morgan:Is it?
Trish Morgan:That's the prelude,
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Malcolm Morgan:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Not there's a chapter in the book.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:That's that's Does it come later?
Matt Edmundson:Tease?
Trish Morgan:Yeah, it comes later.
Trish Morgan:Oh yeah.
Trish Morgan:Is it?
Trish Morgan:It's in the chapter of Lincoln.
Trish Morgan:It's called Lincoln, David Beckham and the bbc, The book story, Remarkable
Trish Morgan:stories of how we've met, um, celebrities.
Trish Morgan:Oh yeah.
Trish Morgan:Page 33.
Trish Morgan:Okay.
Trish Morgan:and um, you know, I mean, yeah.
Trish Morgan:And um, you know, you said something at the very beginning
Trish Morgan:and you're absolutely right.
Trish Morgan:We are just everyday people.
Trish Morgan:There's nothing special about Malcolm Me at all.
Trish Morgan:And everyday people can have extraordinary moments.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:, it's as simple as that.
Trish Morgan:That's what High Heart Deeper Seas is all about.
Trish Morgan:Um, and you know, sometimes he.
Trish Morgan:Given us incredible opportunities to stand in front of very influential
Trish Morgan:people and just, you know, feel the prod, Go on, say it, you know.
Trish Morgan:Um, and other times, um, we sat with the most broken of people
Trish Morgan:who have absolutely nothing.
Trish Morgan:Um, in a, in a camp, in a tent, in, in Greece, and either wherever
Trish Morgan:that is, whatever we are doing, we have been very content.
Trish Morgan:To do what God has called us to do wherever that is.
Trish Morgan:Um, and so, yeah, so yeah, the book is quite a a Smorgs board of Stories
Trish Morgan:and Events, and at the very end there's a QR code, and if you scan
Trish Morgan:your camera over the QR code, it'll take you to a Dropbox of photos.
Trish Morgan:To just back up everything we have said, there's.
Trish Morgan:I've almost Oh, fantastic.
Trish Morgan:So there we go.
Trish Morgan:Yeah, I, In case you think in case of, I've been on a bit of a delusional trip,
Trish Morgan:, Malcolm Morgan: think it was Heidi
Trish Morgan:be Jesus to the next person you meet.
Trish Morgan:And we've tried to follow that.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:And um, you know, for in a restaurant and you know, the waitress serving us.
Trish Morgan:The names, we'll ask the names, get conversation and find out about
Trish Morgan:them and offer to pray for them.
Trish Morgan:That's, you know, easy to do.
Trish Morgan:That's appropriately, That's appropriate.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Oh, fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:Those opportunities.
Matt Edmundson:Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Edmundson:Well, let me say that you guys have been, uh, absolute legends and I'd love
Matt Edmundson:to get, I'd love getting to know you over the years and I've always been
Matt Edmundson:super, super inspired by you guys.
Matt Edmundson:So thank you for coming onto the podcast.
Matt Edmundson:If people wanna connect with you, if they wanna reach out, how, what's the
Matt Edmundson:best way to reach Trisha Mount Morgan?
Matt Edmundson:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Um, the best way probably is by email.
Trish Morgan:There's a great adventures in god gmail.com.
Trish Morgan:That's one way of getting hold of us.
Trish Morgan:And then really find me on Facebook.
Trish Morgan:It's Trish Morgan, singer songwriter and other titles . Um, yeah, find,
Trish Morgan:find this on Facebook that way.
Trish Morgan:Um, that's probably the best.
Trish Morgan:You will listen to any of my music, cuz you know, we've alluded to me
Trish Morgan:being in a band and songwriting.
Trish Morgan:You can get me on Spotify, you can find me on YouTube.
Trish Morgan:You know, all those places where I don't get paid very much, but yeah,
Trish Morgan:, Matt Edmundson: But go
Trish Morgan:be, be that person that gives me not point, not three
Trish Morgan:of a penny, but I'm not being
Matt Edmundson:Excellent.
Matt Edmundson:And of course it goes without saying.
Matt Edmundson:If you are in bath or Bath, go visit St.
Matt Edmundson:Andrews, please.
Matt Edmundson:Absolutely.
Matt Edmundson:You
Trish Morgan:have a welcome, welcome.
Trish Morgan:And yeah.
Trish Morgan:And um, we do Miss Frontline Church in Liverpool.
Trish Morgan:And, um, all the friends that we made, Period of time and, and you
Trish Morgan:met that pioneered the Crowd Church.
Trish Morgan:Um, we just love the DNA of those people.
Trish Morgan:Mm-hmm.
Trish Morgan:and when we were in Greece, we felt very well supported and cheered on by them.
Trish Morgan:Um, so yeah, we are now in a different season in a different city, but we still
Trish Morgan:feel a heart connection to you guys.
Matt Edmundson:Thank you.
Matt Edmundson:Oh, bless you.
Matt Edmundson:No, it's great.
Matt Edmundson:Let me ask you one final question, which I forgot to ask before I asked
Matt Edmundson:how people get in touch with you.
Matt Edmundson:Um, imagine for a minute, , right?
Matt Edmundson:You're at the Oscars, you get your big award, the crowds are cheering.
Matt Edmundson:Everyone's going, Malc, Yeah, yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Trish go, go, go, go, go.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, and you say you, you open a piece of paper and you would say, I would like
Matt Edmundson:to thank, I don't know, a family member, mentor, authors podcast, whatever it is.
Matt Edmundson:Who do you think and why?
Malcolm Morgan:Uh, what a question.
Malcolm Morgan:Over the years it's been various people who've spoken into our lives.
Malcolm Morgan:Um, we've been under some amazing pastors, John Harding at Frontline.
Malcolm Morgan:Church has one of them just been so supportive of us.
Malcolm Morgan:Um,
Trish Morgan:I did in the book, I have actually done a thank you list
Trish Morgan:because it is hard once you start saying thank you to one person, you think,
Trish Morgan:Oh, I didn't say thank you to them.
Trish Morgan:Yeah.
Trish Morgan:Um, there are plenty of people we could honestly stand and say
Trish Morgan:thank you, thank you, thank you.
Trish Morgan:Um, we've had an amazing Prayer support of people.
Trish Morgan:We had amazing, um, trustees of the charity that we ended.
Trish Morgan:Um, starting lp, The Hope UK was a charity, um, that supported us
Trish Morgan:all the way through our Greek time.
Trish Morgan:We had trustees for that.
Trish Morgan:They were incredible.
Trish Morgan:So, you know, we've got a big shout out to many people.
Trish Morgan:I would, I would love to, you know, I dedicated the book
Trish Morgan:to the memory of my parents.
Trish Morgan:Both of them are now in heaven, um, but also, you know, to our grandchildren.
Trish Morgan:But my kids were amazing in letting Malcolm and I go.
Trish Morgan:All these years and do the adventure that we've had.
Trish Morgan:We've obviously, as Matt said, they came with us for the first 18 years, but we
Trish Morgan:went on after that and, um, we're grateful for the fact that they, they just let
Trish Morgan:us, were so open handed and let us be the mum and dad that weren't necessarily
Trish Morgan:the people that lived around the corner.
Trish Morgan:So there's a lot of people to thank, isn't there, And, and we're just grateful
Trish Morgan:for all the different people at the.
Trish Morgan:Times of our lives walk a journey with us.
Trish Morgan:And some have walked a journey now with us for a very, very long time.
Trish Morgan:So I hopefully I've honored those people in the book and in every chapter when you
Trish Morgan:see, you think, Oh, you know, so yeah.
Matt Edmundson:Fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:Fantastic.
Matt Edmundson:Well, Malcolm, Trish, thank you so much for joining us here on
Matt Edmundson:Whats the story.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, that's great.
Matt Edmundson:You guys are absolute legends.
Matt Edmundson:Stay inspiring, stay legends.
Matt Edmundson:Uh, you've honestly, Brilliant.
Matt Edmundson:I've no doubt.
Matt Edmundson:I've no doubt.
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Matt Edmundson:That's it from me.
Matt Edmundson:That's it from Malcolm.
Matt Edmundson:Trish, thank you so much for joining us.
Matt Edmundson:It has been an absolute pleasure.
Matt Edmundson:I will see you next time.