Join me for the third episode in the Soul-Care Series where I discuss the negative and positive attributes of the air element with astrologer and polarity teacher Shelley Bredeson.

With more than four decades of study and experience in the healing arts Shelley references her wealth of knowledge in structural bodywork, energy medicine, and astrology as we discuss the air element with all its gifts and challenges. (Especially the challenges within the gifts)!

In this episode of the Soul-Care Series Shelley and I discuss:

• The negative pole qualities of the air element (heart chakra) including envy, anxiety, and overwhelm
• How Shelleys own air imbalance opened the doorway to her life's work and passion (because nothing else worked as well as energy healing and astrology!!!)
• Some super helpful tools to support anxiety, depression and overwhelm
• A poem from my book which you can learn more about or purchase on Amazon here:   The Soul-Care Workbook: A 33 Day Journey Through your Chakras and Elements  

Summary 

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About Shelley Bredeson

With more than 4 decades of study and experience in the healing arts, Shelley successfully blends her training and knowledge of structural bodywork, energy medicine, spirituality, creative arts, astrology and traditional medicine into her work and life. She is passionate about our connection with one another , the natural world, life energy and ways  we can create and co-create greater wellness for ourselves and all we are related to.  Her greatest joy is facilitating others in their own self-empowerment through cultivating their innate wellbeing-Body, Mind & Soul.

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Cuz whatever, whatever the challenge is, there's also the gift.

Exactly.

You know, so those things that we see as , , maybe like bad things or whatever,

there's good stuff in that stuff and you don't wanna get rid of that stuff.

You wanna make a different kind of relationship with it so that it becomes

your strength instead of something.

Your mind tells you it's going to kill you

Welcome to a Lone Traveler's Guide to the Divine, a podcast for

dreamers, seekers, healers, and anyone on their healing journey.

This is episode two in the Soul Care series where I'm moving through

each of the elements and there are positive and negative pole attributes

offering soul-centered support.

Soul Care is a multi-dimensional version of self-care that I wrote a book about.

Called the Sole Care Workbook, and today we're focusing on the air

element, which correlates to the , heart chakra, which rules over the mind.

Including our thoughts, words, and our ability to communicate and

on the continuum of the negative and positive poles of the air.

We have envy and desire on one end and compassion and

unconditional love on the other end.

So I'll be sharing the poem from the book that's associated with the

air in a moment, and an interview with my dear friend and fellow

polarity teacher, Shelly Bredeson.

Shelly has been a student of energy medicine in polarity therapy,

herbal medicine, and astrology for over four decades and has been

teaching for a very long time.

And I feature Shelly's astrology on my website, which is updated twice

monthly, every new and full moon.

So you should definitely check those out if you do not.

In this interview, Shelly shares how the air has been the source of both

her suffering and her power, how energy healing and astrology helped

her overcome debilitating anxiety and agoraphobia, and she offers some really

humble yet sage advice that I think you will find interesting and supportive

So As we transition into the interview with Shelly Bredeson,

which is very fun and airy.

I'll begin with a short poem that I wrote from the Soul Care workbook on

Air, Unstruck, how we swoon and flatter feathers flocking alone together.

Communal endeavors that heal and restore promises of forevermore.

Spring is breathing.

Hearts are beating like a drum.

Seeding our dreams of greener grasses.

I am.

We are Starlight, so bright, happily ever after.

Mind over matter, new, fresh, restored rebirthed from the heart of the.

To the Greatest Heights flights of Fancy Free You, me, whirling through eternity.

So I'm here with my dear friend, Shelly Bredeson, who is in New

Mexico currently where she resides.

She's brilliant.

She's a total genius.

She's an incredible astrologer she's a polarity teacher and she's been in this

work for so long that she doesn't even realize that she's doing it all the time.

she's so steeped in it.

She just, and breathes it.

I do realize that I'm doing it all the time on some

level, and I think that when I was introduced to Polarity, the reason I

fell in love with it was because it gave me, a language of what I was already

doing, but it, it helped me understand it, which the air element loves to.

Put those pieces together.

Yes.

yes.

Well, you're one of the airiest people I've ever known in the best possible way.

I just ha it popped into my head like, oh, for the air element, we definitely

need to have this conversation.

You need to be in on this.

Oh, well,

I am truly honored.

Really.

I mean, when you ask me about, so I'm like, oh my God, this is

like, I, I love the air element.

I also have some challenges with the air element because I have a lot of air.

And I do like to bounce because I, well, one of the things how I

relate to the air is it brings messages, , it moves things around.

It's not focused.

We need the fire to focus the air without the fire.

The air just goes whichever direction it goes in.

Yeah.

But it, it, it brings messages it's like, um, Oh, I can't remember where I read.

It might have been John Beaulieu.

Was saying it was like the air element is like circles of information within

circles of information, within circles of information and then you find the

connections in all of those things.

It's all in there.

I'm curious, how you would put it in your words, Shelly,

some of the , quote unquote negative pole qualities of imbalanced air?

Well air is, , it's associated , with the mind, our

mental processes and, you know, having these human experiences, everything

gets translated through the mind.

So anything that can be, , dysfunctional or uncomfortable around the mind.

So, , we could have anxiety overwhelm or scattered thinking or, , things

that, , are maybe not so fun because air also likes to have fun.

So out of balance, it's not fun.

Right,

right,

right.

Yes, yes.

, one of the things that we were having in conversation earlier

was, in polarity therapy, Dr.

Stone put the negative pole of the air element as desire or envy, , so

I, I would say in balance, in any kind of, , , mental process, which

there's plenty of that, , , that we all experience to varying degrees,

desire and envy.

I'm curious what you think, , how do you notice that as an imbalance?

Uh, desire is an imbalance.

, in my own personal experience, there's been things that I have, , desired

or longed for that were not mine to have, or not mine to experience.

, and they, did not feel good, or did not make me happy, That's kind of

like the desire of, , wanting something that, isn't aligned with my soul or

whatever was wanting to come in, that if it doesn't feel good, then that,

that is maybe the desire that Dr.

Stone was referring to.

I mean, any desire that is, like distorted, any desire that takes

you to the negative poll to get the resource that you need there.

Because I'm not opposed to negative poll, just so you know, right?

Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, I definitely wanna say that.

Of course.

the air.

Also, I just wanna say rules that communications,

Right?

Mm-hmm.

The ways that social media is in our

lives and transfers information is very

air, it's immediate, it's quick.

And that is huge.

There's a huge amount of , our time as a culture that we spend in the

air, reading and interacting with other people in this very heady way

that's not actually embodied right.

That's why it's so distorted,

right On our phones, on our computers, through the

news that we're listening to.

Absolutely.

I, I agree.

Yes.

Yeah.

For sure.

But also just in, in staying within the realm of the air being the heart chakra.

Mm-hmm.

Like finding your own frequency of truth that is not emitting judgment Yes.

Via envy or desire or discussed or repulsion.

Right.

That when we're, , coming from a place that's balanced in our own heart space,

we can take in information whether or not we agree with it and we don't have to

get thrown necessarily off our, our path.

Right?

Yeah.

It's love.

What is, yeah.

The, the higher expression, unconditional love.

Right.

I, I think another, , issue that is probably really relatable for

most people within the air is, well, two that I'm thinking of now.

One is overwhelm and the other one is anxiety.

And they're a little bit connected.

Sometimes overwhelmed can cause anxiety.

, especially in the modern world where there is so much information exchange

and it's around us all the time and we're being constantly bombarded by it.

And that issue we spoke to earlier of the envy and desire being sort of one

of the negative pole aspects of the air

there is so much information that we're bombarded with and that a lot of times

that can be really overwhelming and it.

Throw us off in the air element through that experience of

judgment or envy or desire.

And that's very intentional within marketing.

You know, almost all marketing starts with what are the pain points of your

targeted audience and how can you solve their problems by emphasizing the

fact that they have a problem so that they will need what you have to sell.

Absolutely.

And we're bombarded with that and it's very intelligent and it's very

psychologically damaging, in my opinion.

Oh, totally, totally.

Yes.

And it's so rampant and we're so used to it , we

know we're being bombarded with messages that we're not enough.

How do we weed through that?

We, we have to like have a level of awareness, when we look at everything.

So there's that aspect of the air that we live within.

That is, I think, a challenging thing to navigate

and that, one of the ways that that imbalance can show up is

in overwhelm and or in anxiety.

Just the amount of stress and pressure and expectations that people have on

themselves and the amount of stress it takes just to live and survive.

What comes to you when you think about that?

, Shelley Bredeson: in, in terms of

first identify where the imbalance is.

Are you dealing with a situation that is like that?

Is it excess air?

And is, is it because there's too much air or is it because there's

not enough of the other elements?

Right.

Because if there's not enough air, the imbalances look very similar.

Right.

Right.

You know, like, I mean, like people who str I mean, I have, I have had, I've

dealt with like debilitating anxiety.

I mean, to the point where I had a agoraphobia, I wouldn't leave my house

for a while, which is how I got into the healing arts in the first place.

Hmm.

A long time ago.

, cause regular medicine didn't work.

Because it's an energetic thing.

Right?

So, , the imbalance of air was like, for me All the right thinking in the

world was not gonna change that for me.

. It wasn't.

I had to get out of my mind . And into my body.

Like getting out in nature or getting body work, especially a polarity session,

hello, because they work deliberately with those elements is, , really beneficial.

You personally like you had too much air and it

was resulting in anxiety.

Yes.

And that resulted in a agoraphobia where you were not able to leave your home.

Correct.

And at that point you said conventional medicine just wasn't working for you.

You turned to energy medicine.

Was that when you first turned to energy medicine or was that down the road?

Had you already experimented or explored it?

I was very young, so, I mean, I wasn't even, , aware of,

, what was out there and I was introduced to, , , I don't know what came first.

There was either an astrology reading or there was, , , the energy worker,

this guy did this thing called Hands-on Healing, where he just worked with energy.

That's what he called it, hands-on healing.

It, it helped me relax back into my body.

I was like out of my body.

Mm-hmm.

And it, I could feel the energy and it helped me get feel . Safe in my

body because like, he didn't touch me.

I mean, when you're in a state of anxiety, it's like, , hyper,

anything with a hyper on it probably has a correlation to too much air.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So that was, that was something that was really cool.

When that was happening, I felt myself returned to my body.

I felt safe in my body.

I could breathe and I could reconnect with things.

And then I could start like gathering my thoughts and even

seeing what I was thinking.

Cuz when I was in the state of anxiety, the thoughts were

just like, I'm gonna die.

Something's taking over me.

I'm crazy.

There's no managing your thoughts when you're in that state, right?

With that kind of anxiety.

There's no Right.

Think.

Yeah, there isn't.

Like I did talk therapy, I did psychiatry, I tried medications, I did all that stuff.

None of that worked.

The talk therapy made it worse,

right?

Yeah.

Just too much air.

Yeah, too

much.

Yes, yes.

, so that was very useful.

And then the astrology thing was like, it was still words,

but it was coming at it from a.

Perspective where all these dots connected.

And then there was this understanding of, oh, it's a soul contract.

Cool.

So somehow that just made it okay.

Right.

And then I started dealing with it because then it was like, , oh cool, well

I understand this and this is just kind of like what I've a agreed to work with.

So I mean, there's gotta be some wisdom in this.

Right,

right.

I love that.

It is information.

It's meeting the air.

In the air, yes.

But it gives you connections and context for maybe why you're experiencing

what you're experiencing right now.

And maybe even could validate within that larger context how this is part of your

growth and what you came here to overcome

or work with.

Or work with.

Yeah.

Cuz whatever, whatever the challenge is, there's also the gift.

Exactly.

You know, so those things that we see as , , maybe like bad things or whatever,

there's good stuff in that stuff and you don't wanna get rid of that stuff.

You wanna make a different kind of relationship with it so that it becomes

your strength instead of something.

Your mind tells you it's going to kill you

Well, I just love too, that, like for you in your story, in

your healer's journey actually, you were dealing with this air imbalance

that led to extreme anxiety and that what worked for you was energy work

and hands-on healing and astrology.

And those are the two things that you've been doing.

Yes.

Like for over 40 years so what would you say those gifts were for you of

having that experience of the anxiety?

It brought me more to myself.

Yeah.

Yes.

In my expression.

, the gift of the anxiety was that , it was the doorway that opened up a

path that I didn't even know existed.

. , that I felt connected to.

That I will be continuing on in this lifetime.

And maybe it's from a past lifetime too, so maybe someday I will know everything

there is to know about astrology.

Not in this lifetime, but it's just something that has it, it feels aligned,

it feels connected, it feels meaningful.

It feels like there's purpose.

Not just for myself, but this is also how I connect with everything in life.

It's how I can be in service to others.

It's how I can be in service to life.

It's just, it's, it's in my resonance.

It's in my field.

And so if it wasn't for the anxiety, I wouldn't have found my own resonance.

I guess it would be how I would say that

That's really beautiful.

So just moving through your own imbalance with the air element and

the anxiety specifically, you were able to discover your own resonance

and some deeper way of being related to yourself, and that informed how

you relate with the rest of the world

and how I can serve.

Yes.

Right.

Well, specifically it sounds like the things that worked for you became

tools that you started utilizing for yourself and then sharing

with others and then teaching.

Yes.

And that's been your life path.

And that was all started with, I have an imbalance and the tools that work

for me now, that's what I'm here to do.

And without that imbalance, you wouldn't have been introduced

maybe to the profound healing capacity of energy work or astrology

or any of the natural healing, cuz they, you know.

Right.

You know this path.

One door opens up to another door and there's so much to explore.

Right?

Yes.

Yes.

And I know you are an explorer.

Yes.

And you've opened many, many doors.

. And I just love that perspective and just that how that has

been for you, if somebody else.

That's listening to this was experiencing acute anxiety or knew

somebody that was, and what would you say to them about that, that journey?

I could speak to my own personal experience and just say that,

you know, just because I was introduced to those things doesn't mean that

that journey was like, oh, I'm healed.

No, this is a lifelong journey.

Right, right.

It's, I mean, I can still get very anxious.

, I've definitely got a lot more tools, but it's still, part of my sole contract.

I'm still working with it.

It's the, the wound that becomes the gift.

So what I would say to somebody else, it's like, for me it was, it was just

like feeling completely out of control.

You can't control the way the wind blows, right?

Yeah.

You can't control, , anything outside of yourself really.

You can, control what your choice in the moment, and that's

all there is, is the moment.

Yeah.

When you're in that kinda state.

, But I would definitely also say that, the things that that help

me are getting out of my head or using my mind to make connections

with things that are not related to the thing that's throwing me off.

Because there's already too much energy on that thing.

Right,

right.

. I'm hearing that one way that you

you to balance the air for yourself.

Being a very airy person who has experienced extreme imbalances

in the air that have been part of your soul journey, , that coming to

the body is really a helpful way.

Being in nature is really a helpful way.

Yes.

If somebody is not sure what that means, like, what do you

mean by coming to the body?

How would you describe that?

it would be the earth element for those who speak that language.

You know, focusing on here and now and like noticing.

My fingers noticing, my hands touching the body.

There's actually a really good point to work is like on , the ball

of the foot there, it's a air zone , and you can . , touch deep

into the, that ball, underneath your toes on the bottom of your foot.

And that really can bring you home right now, right?

Yes.

Just like start making, start making like the opposite of air, like deep,

slow connections into the foot, opening up that foot . Breathing.

Focusing on the breath, using your mind to focus on how the breath feels

coming into your body that's using the air to get in touch with your body.

So utilizing polarity reflexology, which

is a whole thing unto itself.

Mm-hmm.

You could go work the zone of the air element, which is just

under the toes in that ball of the foot going across , the foot.

Horizontally.

You could work that with deep penetrating pressure, which

would be more earthy touch.

Right.

So that's kind of taking on the opposite quality of the

air, which is quick and light.

Mm-hmm.

This would be deep and slow.

And so using deep, slow touch and then also you were saying, um, breath.

Really meeting the air in the air with breath.

And would you say breathing slower again, like slowing it down a

little bit would be helpful?

Yes.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

But again, you know, yeah.

I mean, sometimes you have to meet things where it is.

And if you're real jacked up that maybe you just pay attention to

and you start panting and then you, but you do it intentionally.

Yes.

Right.

Love that.

Absolutely.

I mean, and I love that you keep bringing this up about

meeting things where they are.

And that's another aspect of polarity in how we would treat anything is

first, before you take it somewhere new, you wanna meet it where it is.

Yes.

And so if the experience is like chest breathing and it's quick and it's

shallow, then you start by bringing some intentionality and maybe even accentuating

what already is happening so that you can.

Observe and become conscious of what you're doing, first off, right?

And then from there you can begin to offer it new direction,

yes.

Yes.

Love that.

Yeah, love that.

I mean, and there's a lot more, but I'm curious, like what,

what do you do for your anxiety

For me, definitely like going to the fire.

Yes, that makes sense.

So for me, I would say that it's movement, you know, just being in motion helps.

If I'm sitting still, I can get very mental and I can get spinning out,

and especially in the middle of the night, sometimes if I wake up,

can't go back to sleep, that's when I experience what I would call anxiety.

Some of that's hormonal and I've learned how to meet that with different

herbs and diet, different ways of, uh, allowing my energy to reorganize.

But when that does occur because of stress or, or just life or

whatever, um, definitely what has helped me is to just be really

engaged physically as much as I can.

So with yoga or with running, those are the two.

Sometimes running is better for me when I have anxiety because it, it is

that thing of meeting it where it is.

It's too hard to slow down and get to the mat.

Mm-hmm.

You know, it's too hard to sit and meditate.

I can't meditate when I'm in that state.

No way.

So it's, you know, meeting it where it is.

Dancing is huge for me.

I do a lot of dance and sometimes that's dancing in my room or

dancing in, you know, community.

Mm-hmm.

But that really helps to kind of exhaust that energy that's spinning out.

Right.

I love that.

I love that.

I love that too because the fire element for me is what I do

when my air is not moving at all.

Right?

Yeah.

So it's like, how our constitutions are different really depends on

how we would approach something,

right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So yeah, it can be helpful to go to the physical , when we don't have

enough air and we need to get it going.

And it's like you were saying, also helpful if we have too much

and we need to calm it down,

right.

For somebody, like, I don't have any fire.

Yes.

In my, in my constitution.

I mean, you know, we all have all those elements for sure.

But that's , the one that's in my natal constitution,

that's lacking., I got Earth.

So it's like I go to my other element that's strong, right?

To help me, like get , the thing that's outta balance, back into balance, right?

You could go to that thing that's strong for you, you're, you're a fire,

right?

Right.

Yes.

And that makes sense too.

Like that's really one way that information through astrology or polarity

can help you make those connections.

Like where are your strengths.

Mm-hmm.

And I would say for anybody listening, they're not, , Exploring those different

healing arts and they're just curious in the moment how to identify that.

Mm-hmm.

I'm curious how you would say, how would somebody identify, what are they, where

are their strengths, constitutionally speaking, that they could go to?

I should probably put something on my website

that people could do that with.

Yes.

Cause I have this whole form made up, I'm going to put a little

video out there on how to determine your elemental constitution

based on your astrology chart.

Oh, love it.

Okay.

So if you wanna know more about your elemental constitution based

on your astrology chart, just go to Shelly's website and you can watch her

little video and she'll explain it.

Right.

But I won't be doing that until mid April cuz of my son is coming to visit me.

Yes.

Okay.

So look for that after mid-April

2023.

Yes.

And my last series of episodes are all about the elements and how you

can , recognize them in or out of balance.

And this series is going deeper with even more soul care

oriented ways to tend to those.

So I think this is perfect for the air because it's all about information, right?

The first thing to do is to find out that information.

Where am I strong or where am I imbalanced?

Where elementally do I tend to hang out comfortably, and

where am I getting stuck, right?

Mm-hmm.

I agree.

Good.

Yeah.

And knowing that, you know, sometimes that place that we get stuck, like you

were saying, Shelly is also our strength.

Right?

Our weakest place is also sometimes our strongest.

Yes, yes.

. There's gifts there.

I mean, always.

Yeah.

I think that's a piece that a lot of people can really

relate with, like resource around.

Cause we all go there sometimes, right?

Maybe not everyone.

I don't

know.

Or, I mean, well, the opposite.

The opposite pull of that is depression.

Yes.

Right.

And it's like that depression can also be related to an air imbalance, right?

We, we tend to think anxiety, but you can burn your air.

, you can have an air overload and burn it out and then there's nothing, you

know, then you go down to depression.

Cuz I've been there too from too much air, right?

So like a deep depression where you can't move because there's no movement.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

When the wind stops blowing and your, sailboat can't go anywhere.

Yeah.

The ship is sinking.

Yep.

Yep.

There's that.

And a lot of times the things that work for, it's not always the true,

but I mean, typically the anxiety and depression live on the same pole.

You know, they're opposite ends of the same pole.

So what works for one can work for the other.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Energetically speaking, right?

Yes,

It's gather the information, listen to the

messages, find your resource.

I would say that air is also like heart medicine.

It's the heart chakra.

And so one of the things that comes into mind as medicinal wherever we are

on that continuum, feeling anxious or feeling depressed, is compassion, I

think of the heart as being a really beautiful place to cultivate compassion.

And that especially directed inward towards ourself can

be its own kind of medicine.

Definitely.

. Yeah.

That's like that unconditional love thing, I definitely try

to live in that all the time.

Yeah.

But you know, there's times when you can't do it for the self, it's okay to start

doing it for the things outside of you.

Yes.

And then bring it back.

If you can do it from the self and then put it out, it's like, wow.

Right.

You know, it's like super, super potent and powerful, but sometimes it's okay

to start outside of the self as long as you're willing to bring that back in.

Right.

My daughter led a meditation

we were singing this beautiful song, they're a very air, heart-centered

person, and I actually interviewed them for my air episode in the last series.

Oh.

And, um, I heard that, yes.

Yeah.

They shared a song that was all just beautiful heart energy.

It was just our family sitting around Christmas day.

And they were sharing this song and then they led us just immediately

into this guided meditation that was so powerful, just impromptu, cuz we

were all in that beautiful place of singing together and harmonizing.

And then we kind of landed and then they started speaking about imagining that

you were holding yourself as an infant.

And just rocking your own infant body, right?

And holding it to your heart and just loving it and loving this infant self.

And maybe what does it need, you know, from you.

I love that you know, if you feel like you can't, give yourself

that right now in the moment as an adult with all your, whatever perceived flaws.

Like at one time you were a perfect infant.

You could love that too.

That is so beautiful.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

So beautiful.

I think we were all crying.

I

bet.

I so beautiful.

I've also heard it, you know, offered, , where you could imagine

a pet that you have loved, right?

And then kind of bringing that inward into your heart, that

love back at you, recognizing it's just a mirror for ourselves.

And if we can't even love ourselves a as an infant, sometimes

we can love a pet, you know?

Mm-hmm.

Where you gone with this, I really like this too,

and I can definitely correlate this back to air because it's like, how

are you directing your thoughts?

How are you directing your mind?

What are you gonna do with your imagination?

.

Yes.

Right.

And it's the, it's the fire that breathes the life into the possibilities.

It's like the thing that heats those up and makes those into something.

That's what,

right.

Yes.

Brings it more into manifestation.

I love the idea that that one way to work with the air is through the imagination,

through words, through affirmation.

Right.

What you do with those words, what you do with that

imagination, what you do with the, the, we are like our, our minds.

If we could hear everything that's going on in our minds, we'd be insane.

But if you, stop a minute and tune in, and then which things are

you giving, which things are you giving your attention to, right?

With those thoughts that come in, what, what thoughts are

you giving your attention to?

Because you get to choose that,

right?

Unless you're not conscious of what you are paying attention to.

And then you don't have choice

a friend of mine said to me once that, we were doing some peer coaching, and

there was this recurring issue that I kept speaking to, that each time we would meet,

I'd be like, oh, this is still off for me.

You know, this recurring issue.

I can't even remember what the issue was anymore.

Right.

I might still be dealing with it.

I don't know, but I remember, doesn't sound like it.

It certainly doesn't have as much energy as it did at that point some years ago.

But what was really profound to me in the moment was she pointed out

to me, she's like, that's quite the mantra you've got going on,

that you're not enough in this way.

And do you really want to be affirming that?

Day in, day out, week in, week out, you've said this like a hundred times now.

Mm-hmm.

And I was like, whoa.

For some reason, just the way she posed that to me really helped me

to see that unconsciously I was reaffirming this issue by stating

it over and over again as my truth.

Mm-hmm.

And that I was limiting myself by the way that I was attached to this issue.

I was recreating the issue for myself and almost like affirming it, you

know, like, like you would speak in affirmation, like, I am worthy.

I was unconsciously using the power of my voice and my thoughts to feed this idea

that I did not want to participate in.

And I kept trying to approach it from different ways and give

myself different tools to meet it.

And it kept persisting.

And so I think what I decided to do at that point was get really conscious

of how I was speaking about it.

Mm-hmm.

And try to reframe it.

And then also I did some opposite affirmations right around the issue.

It's hilarious that I can't remember what the issue was, but,

well, you know, I mean, this, this brings

me to a whole nother tool.

That I believe is true, our words are spells.

Yes, totally.

They're really magic.

The words that we use create magic, magic, light, magic, whatever you wanna call it.

But there's like the e that ef f t, that tapping tool, they tap out

the negative things, and then they put in the positive things, right?

So you, tap on like energy points.

They have specific ones, but I think you could tap, I think you

could do that intuitively actually.

Right.

You know, where does it need to tap?

Yes.

Right.

Tap where, and tap, tap out that stuff with the intention of tapping

it out and then tapping it in.

I mean, like a lot of times I'll just tap on my thymus, right?

This is my go-to now when I start feeling anxious, , I'll just

like, Tap right here and breathe.

And it's like, okay, everything's good.

So

lightly tapping with your fingers on your chest, on your

thymus, over your heart chakra.

And I love that you brought up E F T in case anybody doesn't know what that is.

It's energy freedom technique.

And you can look that up, , but there's specific coordinates, certain

energy points that you would tap on saying these words in a certain order.

But you could do that intuitively.

And I love that.

I love the way you brought that in, , that for you, one way to meet your

anxiety when it does come up is to just tap lightly there on the thymus.

. You could say, first the limiting belief, the challenge and then

you could replace it, right?

With the one that feels, well, what's the truth you're choosing consciously

instead of the one that you're running unconsciously in reacting to.

Right.

So what is the truth that you choose for yourself now after

that last limiting belief?

Are you asking me directly?

Yes.

I can't remember the exact limiting belief right.

That I was dealing with at that time when she said it.

But I've had many, Shelly, I'm a human being on my spiritual journey.

Yes.

And I've had many limiting beliefs, and I have done this with many of them.

I would say one of the most prevalent that, uh, I have dealt

with is just not enough time.

I don't have enough time, and I make myself so busy and I

have this mantra that I run.

I don't have enough time, or I'm too busy, I'm overwhelmed.

Yes, yes.

And that's a belief.

It's also a condition that I have then created mm-hmm.

In response to that belief.

And it's a feedback loop.

It's a cycle.

And, We do call.

Loops in polarity, that's in the second communications class.

We dissect those and how to break 'em.

Right, right, right.

Break free of our loops.

There are methods to that within polarity in the more advanced ways.

But, you know, I think this is an interesting conversation because Right.

Thinking or being conscious of how you're thinking and choosing, , healthful

thought patterns that can propel you in the direction you wanna go

is an aspect of polarity therapy.

That is a way that we, that we meet energy.

Because energy does come through thoughts and it comes through words.

Yes.

Thoughts.

And I love what you said about words are spells, which is true

because what do spells do is they create something out of nothing.

Right?

Yes.

And that's what words do too.

We speak something, we're giving energy to it.

Eventually, if there's enough energy there, it becomes form.

And the first step of that is to speak it.

So what are the spells that we have?

I think the

first step is to

think it.

Think it, speak it.

Yeah.

Yes.

Once you speak it, it's getting that much closer to form.

Oh, for sure.

Now in the material

world.

Yes.

It's now here with, with a vibration that is measurable, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

So how do we wanna use that power, ? The power of our words

and the power of our thoughts.

How do we wanna use those?

Right.

A good question.

I mean, , I utilize affirmations a ton.

I always.

Ever since I was little, I grew up with Louise Hay, like, you know, grow.

I grew up with the, the whole new age thing of, words were medicine.

Yes.

Specific ailments.

And they are medicine.

Yes.

I'm just saying like, as a child, I started to work with that as a

child and it was so powerful for me, you know, having that experience.

Yet I still didn't catch, you know, we're always a work in progress,

but I still didn't catch that time when my friend pointed it out to me.

Oh, that's an interesting mantra.

Yes, yes.

What kinda spell are you weaving there?

Well, if you didn't have a friend to talk to you

about that, how would've you even known that you were doing that?

Right?

Yes.

Yes.

Well, we are, we are reflections for each other and we do

need connections, you know?

That is very helpful.

Is there any kind of completing thoughts that you wanna share, Shelly?

Anything that would feel like it would wrap up this conversation?

No, I just want to thank you so much for, asking

me to do this with you and having a conversation with you.

I just, I love you, number one.

Aww.

But I, I love your podcast.

I listen all the time.

I actually, I love everything you do.

Aw.

You're just such a true, authentic, loving, caring, beautiful soul,

and I'm so grateful to be on the planet with you at this time because

I really believe that you are.

You are holding something for all of us, and you're sharing

something for all of us too.

So I'm just, I'm so grateful to be with you, so thank you so much.

Aw, Shelly, thank you so much that I really take that

into my heart and receive your words and I feel so, so honored.

So thank you for sharing that.

And I'm also really honored just to have you have you here and sharing your wisdom.

Thank you.

Yes, and I really look forward to co-teaching with you.

Shelly and I are gonna be teaching an energetic nutrition and cleanse class

at some point soon, or Yes, who knows at what point you're listening to this, but

you can check my website for that because once we have taught it live, there will

be an online course available around it.

So I'm excited to collaborate around that.

And Me too.

Yeah.

Thank you for sharing some of your story and your wisdom, it was a total pleasure.

So thank you.

Thank you

. Thank you, Shelly.

Thank you so much for listening to this episode of a Lone

Traveler's Guide to the Divine.

You can learn more about Shelly bredeson@astroenergetics.net.

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has many cool online courses and creative offerings in the works.

She is,

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