The last time Kelly caught up with world championship podium-finisher Heather Jackson was in the hotel just past the finish line of Kona three years ago. What has she been up to since? Becoming a professional gravel racer and ultra-runner!

Today we catch up with the fan favorite, Heather Jackson, before she heads out on her big Tour Divide bike ride from Canada to Mexico. But first, Joanne and Kelly catch up on the news from the last two weeks: What's to be done about all these heat cancellations.

Then, Heather tells us:

• How she ended up with a second pro athlete career
• What her training looks like now with just biking and running
• The hardest parts of gravel racing and ultra-trail running
• Can she survive this mega-summer schedule?!

Follow along with Heather's Tour Divide FKT attempt.

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