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Work Life Balance Boundaries : From Burnout and Self-Sabotage To Building Meaningful Relationships with Eric Nehrlick
Episode 272 • 6th February 2024 • Living Fearless Today • Mike Forrester
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Burnout often starts with a man who never learned to say no because he's desperate to prove he belongs. My guest Eric Nehrlich finally landed a job at Google, one of the companies he'd dreamed about for years. He wanted to prove he deserved to be there, so he said yes to everything and tried to over deliver. Good work only brought more work. When he went up for promotion, his days ran from 8 AM to midnight. He hadn't seen anyone outside of work for most of a year. He told himself he just had to make it to Christmas. When Christmas came, his body shut down with a 103 degree fever and a week in bed. As he lay there, a new question showed up for the first time. Why is this promotion worth so much? In January he told his manager he was done working that way. He lost half his team, his performance rating, and the promotion. He expected to feel like a failure. Instead he felt free.

The breakthrough came from rewriting one rule in his head. Eric had lived by the rule that he must do everything his manager asked, and then some. He added a clause he'd been missing: unless I accept the consequences. That turned a must into a choice. Once he knew he could survive the fallout, he started trying things he'd avoided for fear of failing. He learned to snowboard, biked down the California coast for six days, and spent three weeks in India alone. With Mike Forrester, he breaks that down into steps any man can take. Try one small thing that feels a little uncomfortable, like speaking up in a meeting. Ask someone who does what you want to do for 20 minutes of their time. Eric calls it having one conversation. Mike shares his own years of four hour nights, driven by the same hunger for validation. Years later, a new baby, solo work, and COVID left Eric lonely.

The deepest moment came in Eric's first therapy session. He talked about his mom, and his therapist asked about his dad. Eric described a father who went to work, came home, and barely engaged. He was there, but he wasn't there. Then she asked what Eric did in his relationships. He saw it right away. He had learned to withdraw and go quiet rather than face hard conversations. He was also masking, becoming whoever he thought a woman wanted, until the mask slipped a few months in. Showing up as himself is what led him to his wife. On paper they have almost nothing in common. What they share is a commitment to talking things through. Mike teaches men to quit trying to fix themselves by themselves. Eric's turn came through a therapist and honest conversations. If you're a dad who says yes at work and goes quiet at home, Eric's story shows another way. Your kids get a father who's actually present.

What You'll Learn In This Episode:

  • Recognize the need to prove yourself that keeps you saying yes at work until your body forces a stop.
  • Use the "unless I accept the consequences" clause to turn a rule you've lived by into a choice.
  • Walk through small, slightly uncomfortable experiments that rebuild confidence after burnout.
  • Spot how a father who was there but not there can teach you to withdraw from hard conversations with your wife.
  • See how masking who you are early in a relationship sets it up to fall apart.
  • Learn practical ways a busy dad can carve out time for friendships and push back on loneliness.

The key moments in this episode are:

00:06:00 - what burnout does to your body when you ignore the warning signs

00:07:00 - why you can't say no at work when you're trying to prove you belong

00:09:00 - what happened when he told his boss he was done working 100 hour weeks

00:11:00 - how needing validation from others drives overwork

00:15:00 - how to rebuild confidence after burnout by trying new things

00:17:00 - small first steps to build courage when you feel stuck

00:19:00 - how one conversation with someone ahead of you opens a path forward

00:22:00 - how masking who you are sabotages dating and relationships

00:26:00 - how an emotionally absent father shapes the way you handle hard conversations

00:28:00 - how to choose a partner based on what you need instead of a checklist

00:32:00 - why men get lonely after working from home and starting a family

00:35:00 - how to rebuild friendships when work and kids take all your time

Connect with Eric Nehrlich

Website

https://www.toomanytrees.com/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nehrlich

Instagram

https://instagram.com/ericnehrlich

YouTube

https://youtube.com/@ericnehrlich5567

Connect with Mike Forrester

Podcast Website

https://LivingFearlessTodayPodcast.com

Coaching Website

https://www.hicoachmike.com/

LinkedIn

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hicoachmike/

Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/@hicoachmike

Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/hicoachmike

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/hicoachmike

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